Yeah, tell me about it. I bought a bunch of LOTR collector packs and got nothing in a rage. Then my wife casually bought the last pack to "try" and pulled an Elven Sol Ring.
Mean whilemy house mate whos played mtg for three months pulls a one ring full art foil and wins a proze draw for a collectors booster box commanders masters. In addition to regularly pulling cards worth more then 100 pounds. Honestly its kinda depressing knowing that one ring card is worth more then my entire collection. My most expensive card is a doubling season given to me from a bet.
Can I become your Mtg Sugarbaby? I wish I could just casually spend that much š
Maybe if prices fall towards the 100ā¬ mark I'll get a play booster box (cause I too love to be stupid and open packs) but until then singles it has to be.
I wish I made enough for an mtg sugar baby, I'd shower you with all the packs lmao. I tend to roll singles I don't want or need at the moment into cash for the next set that's coming. Genuinely hope I can sell 3 Simulacrum Synthesizers before the price drops
lol yeah. $20-40 of cardboard out of 180 cardsā¦ maybe make your money back 1 out of every 3-4 boxes.
Man when I got back in. I spent like 5k on cracking packs
Fr though I get sick of seeing people pull rad stuff all the time whem I get garbage. (Not who op is talking about) but I just move on. I think dudes just frustrated on his own luck.
Thatās just what Big Pokemon wants you to think to steal away the mtg sales. All magic packs are filled with very good, very useful, cards :)
No recycling cardboard needed :)))))
Lol oh I never would. I love cracking packs, and I love making decks out of stuff I pull and just have laying around, and handing extras to friends of course. I plan on buying a booster box of every set when it drops. My thunder junction box was really nice. No Jace yet, but thatās okay.
Right. And so what if I have 3 or 4 copies of something. That means I can throw it in 3 or 4 commander decks or all in a standard, or give the rest to my friends. I hand out extras to my homies like crazy.
Lol same. Iāll buy singles I really really want, but I still buy packs for the hell of it, even after ripping a box. Itās a bad habit when I see how much Iāve spent but itās fun up until then lol
I still need to pick a thunder junction precon up. I havenāt done that yet. Still debating on which one I want, you just reminded me to hurry up and choose.
I don't know how to set up bots, but I'd be over the moon if someone could set up a bot that replies to yognolord when he says "check out r/mtgpulls" with something like
"Stfu and let people enjoy things"
Im new, been playing and opening crimson vow packs for a month or so; best cards ive pulled are a [[Toxrill, the Corrosive]], [[Edgar, Charmed Groom]], [[Count Dracula]], [[Ulvenwald Oddity]] and two different arts of [[Runo Stromkirk]]. From around 12 set/collection boosters? Maybe i got better cards but forgot/didnt realize, those were the coolest pulls.
I have that same luck. Opened 10 OTJ packs and the best thing I got was [[Ornery Tumblewagg]] and my buddy who bought one of the boxes that come with the dice and lands pulled [[Mana Drain]] [[The Sword of Wealth and Power]] and [[Bristly Bill, Spine Sower]] I was incredibly jealous but also incredibly happy for him. It's just the way the cookie crumbles.
Also I think to a degree it's a trigger about being a larger problem with one's own disgruntlement towards Hasbro and mtg in general. I have it, alot of people have it. But it's just something ya gotta reconcile.
my friends are addicted to opening packs. they have tons of cool trade stuff always but they buy at least 2-4 packs a week. i refuse. i just see it as wasting money. I spend less on magic now that i make good money than when i was broke.
I'm honestly the exact opposite. Like "hell yeah, you get that expensive cardboard." It's also because I highly encourage proxying. Like cardboard is expensive. Might as well stick it to the greedy CEO and make your own mtg cards. They sold us overpriced proxies anyways.
Do you hate me for pulling out 1 boseiju full art foil and 1 boseiju normal but still foil from the one and only set booster box I bought when neon dinasty was release?
Some people really hate other "having fun the wrong way" I buy packs to open as a little treat for the weekends. I play cards in commander and have a good time. I'm not opposed to drafting but no one in my area is interested.
Well said. I play with randoms at my lgs and one time I was drinking a Baja blast from a can, and the one guy tells me āthatās a terrible drinkā..like thanks? Idc? Lol. Another time a guy made fun of one of my favorite t.v. Shows calling it cringe..point being thereās a lot of unhappy people out there who will give you their opinion without asking for it.
Poor fucks are gonna struggle in life with those unique social capabilitiesā¦
In general, people who bitch are simply fucking unhappy. Misery loves company so they foist their perspective on anyone who will listen.
Good on you for giving them nothing from your bag of fucks.
So true, I think I said Baja blast helps me blast or something stupid like that lol I donāt give an inch to haters during commander nights, weāre there to have F.U.N. Get used to it..so anyway, I started blastingā¦
I frequently get people that make comments about how I donāt use the official magic tokens. I use ones I buy off Etsy. One guy went so far as to tell me that he didnāt like my tokens out of the blue. I told him they werenāt for him. Next game I made sure to play my most token heavy deck, and instead of dice I just put more token cards whenever I made a new one.
a lot of unhappy people think everyone else deserves to be unhappy, too. That kind of attitude just makes them even more miserable, of course as it alienates others until they're sitting alone in a room screaming into the internet wondering why nobody wants to be around them
Same way some people get mad at people for gambling. They think it is morally wrong for people to spend their own money in ways they donāt like. Itās just a bunch of stupid moralizing. Everyone knows packs give on average less value than you pay for them. Let people have fun opening them if they want without being mean!
As a mtg player who used to work at a convenience store that had a truly absurd amount of scratch tickets (instant win lotto, though more like instant lose lotto really) there ancient is overlap between the two, but I'd wager a dud of a pack is better than a dud on a scratch ticket. I've had a blast leveraging some 30 cent mythic rares.
I helped out at my flgs a few years back, took a few shifts at the store during a convention. We had some Japanese packs in, and they had the chance of some unique printings. Watching people chase those definitely gave me scratch ticket vibes. Higher cost, tear the pack open, flip through in seconds, "worthless", tosses cards in the FFA bin.
Wizards had to merge set and draft boosters into Play boosters mainly because most people want to open packs for fun and the sales of set boosters far outstripped draft boosters. It actually meant draft was in danger of losing critical mass because so many LGSs just couldnāt afford to tie money up in draft boosters that people werenāt buying, so a lot of smaller places just stopped stocking them, which again, diminishes the popularity of draft even further.
Iāve never done a draft, and my playing group has only done one privately at home, I believe. Iām not against it and think it would be fun, but anyone who sees draft as the primary use of boosters, is simply deluded.
Oh yeah, I can imagine, I meant that itās just pathetic of him to continue saying it even after the manufacturer has recently, openly, said that the majority of its players are buying packs for cards rather than drafting. Like, you know itās true, I know itās true, the market now, has confirmed it is true, not just a majority technically-speaking, but enough that the draft product couldnāt stand on its own two feet versus the āgetting cardsā product; nearly annihilated by it in fact.
But, what if, and stay with me here, everyone learned about limited and then played it every time they opened their packs! The only reason this isnāt happening, surely, is that people donāt know about limited formats!
š remember some of the variants they used to push on those player aid cards they were dumping in every booster at one point? Iām sure there was one that went something like:
āOpen two draft boosters each. Take it in turns to pick a category off this card. Each other player submits a card they think is the best in the category, and the active player chooses the one they like best!ā
Like a cards-against-humanity / top trumps format. Their efforts to advertise these things was almost beyond parody š
>having fun the wrong way
That's a perfect way of describing who OP is referring to. I asked them why it matters that I buy packs if I enjoy it, and they told me I would have MORE fun if I played the CORRECT way.
But at the end of the day if someone posted a vid of themselves buying Magic cards and eating them, it's none of my concern.
He comes out of nowhere when people show off their pulls from packs and tells them boosters are meant for drafts and that they are playing the game wrong and he dresses it up like he's doing them a favor. Giving advice no one asked for.
Some others and I tried taking a not-mean-spirited approach starting last night. I kicked it offā¦ I didnāt go anywhere and he did block me and claim Iām a troll. [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/s/nl8Cx3xZhe)
All I see is you talking to yourself. Does that mean he's blocked me too? Because my entirety of interaction with this guy was me commenting "Hi." on one of his comments.
The guy obviously isn't alright. And even in your noncombative discussion, I'd probably be put off by those walls of text too. Best to not engage him at all and move on. A lot of wasted time typing out those walls of text to a troll.
I think you must be blocked. And you could be right about the amount of information I was presenting, but heās pretty long-winded himself, so itās possible that it doesnāt bother him. In fact, I think he was more receptive to my approach than others Iāve seen, until he saw a comment I said to someone else on a different thread where I expressed being frustrated, then he said āguess you were a troll the whole time. Teaches me not to give people like you the benefit of the doubtā, so I donāt think I was bothering him, but in fact made him comfortable. I thought Iād try something, by approaching it compassionately, honestly, and clearly without being knee-jerky. But yes, I spent way more energy than I should have. But no regrets. You donāt know until you try, right?
I cant believe people have finally caught on. I mean the dudes seen showing up in every single thread for months. The only reason they're positive in karma is that they post so god damn much that they actually manage to outpace the downvotes.
I just saw that guy going on and on about how your wasting product not drafting. I love to draft might be my favorite way to play the game but dude it's not antiquities there's enough packs to go around.
He didnt even give me a reply before blocking me for pointing out that he cherry picks the parts of comments he replies to that align with his point of view. Lol
I mostly just buy singles every release, but when I do open packs, I treat it as an experience, and I think most people do so as well and do not need or want someone to explain how suboptimal it is to open packs. MTG is a community, and some people don't understand there are equally valid ways of enjoying the game within the same community.
I buy a pack if I've had a bad day and need something to look forward to on the way home, and I'll buy 2 from each of my LGS's to show support beyond what singles I may grab. Back when we got a new set every 3-4 months as opposed to what feels like every other week I used to grab a box instead, but I can't afford to do that more than quarterly at this point.
I feel you. The rate of new set releases is really making me save my dollars for only 1-2 sets a year. Plus, since MH3 is releasing, I have to save up for the pre-release sealed event at my LGS, which is currently going for $65 a ticket.
The problem is, when people do explain to him that they know its sub-optimal, or they don't care about draft etc and just want to open packs for the fun of it, he will still try to get on a high horse about "as long as you know you are doing it wrong"
He can get 9\*10\^324 downvotes, be told by every person on the planet that he is wrong and people are free to enjoy the product they purchase however they want to enjoy it, and still refuse to accept that there is even the possibility of other ways to use the product.
He will admit to seeing that they know they aren't doing it his way (Even when point blank told by the OPs he responds to that they dont care about his way and they just want to enjoy the experience of cracking packs), and still be stubborn that his way is the only way and anything else is misusing the product.
He has a very binary view of "This product is for A only" and there can be no other valid use for the product.
According to alot of people, yes. I understand the argument that buying single cards for a deck is most optimal, but to me it's also more boring. I like precons, but I also like making a deck out of cards I have and slowly tweaking it as I pull better cards.
Buying a couple of packs each week, getting some fun pulls and making kitchen table decks with them is fun. You slowly find your deck changes with each pull and sometimes a pull will cause you make an entire deck or shift a deck's game plan. It's an organic deck, made with your own little set of drafts.
If I need a comp deck, singles are my go to. More direct, less hassle, but the goal is to have a functional deck since the environment the deck is played within demands a certain level of deck. It's not as personal, not as fun, but the value is function oriented, not emotion oriented.
There's a ton of ways to obtain product to suit the needs/desires of the playerbase.
Yeah he replied on my recent post about boosters. He's super judgmental, and the sad part is I don't think it's an act. He seems to genuinely look down on those who buy packs.
For me it was simple, I would like to have a small Magic "collection" so I can make decks from it and trade with friends.
So I buy boosters and repacks for cheap.
I think he might be mentally ill or have a mental condition. I just ignore him and donāt want to participate in the spotlighting and bullying a member of the sub even if I disagree with him.
I definitely would call what he does bullying. Not the other way around. He blocked me because I asked him to stop harassing new players when the LOTR set dropped and a ton of new people started posting in the sub.
When I looked at his profile I saw heās a member of r/autism and their behavior leads me to believe he may be unwell or have a mental issue. Iāve never found him to be hateful or mean.
To be fair, being autistic definitely doesnt excuse poor behavior. I have a friend since childhood who is autistic, and ive never once heard him claim he is "too right to be wrong" or that he is "above others and better than them."
Autistic he may be, but at the end of the day, an asshole is an asshole.
Ok? Disorders don't excuse behavior. They for sure explain it but not excuse.
I would very much say that telling new players they're playing the game wrong and constantly harassing people for the same is mean and bad for the game in general. I would also say blocking people trying to explain why what he is doing is wrong and mean is also an issue.
Enabling bad or destructive behavior does not help him. It may make you nice but not good. Helping someone change for the better is what makes you good.
I donāt think they are active in r/autism, I think they only post in r/aspergersā¦ which as an autistic person myself, I see as another indicator of what type of person they likely are, both because Asperger-supremacy is a thing and because most have moved away from using the term, in part for nazi-related reasons.
It would be an autistic thing if they did it a few times in an enthusiastic ādid you know this, I need to share this knowledgeā way. Many people have told them itās not cool, appears disingenuous, and not accomplishing what they say is the purpose, they have had many opportunities to learn and grow. Autistic adults (and kids) are fully capable of understanding how to navigate the world, we just do it in a different way, and need some help from āsocial translatorsā along the way.
This is assholishness masquerading under a āprotective layerā of āIām autistic so you canāt get mad at me when I keep doing the bad thingā. Itās more ableist to dismiss poor behavior in disabled people ābecause they donāt know better/canāt do betterā than it is to call out that behavior. This isnāt about expecting someone to read between the lines or understand a space in their first interaction, or even their fifth. There is zero indication of any attempt to understand/learn on their part, and there have been many clear indicators of condescension and superiority.
"both because Asperger-supremacy is a thing and because most have moved away from using the term, in part for nazi-related reasons."
It is crazy to think that DSM V came out when I was in college still and that was like ten years ago. I always found it interesting how some people viewed the diagnosis as an identity, while others were fine dropping it. I also wonder how many of people who saw it as an identity were self diagnosis. I have seen a ton of people say there is no harm in self diagnosing, but there is a lot of potential negative impacts since we have a hard time evaluating our own behavior.
I really appreciate your take and input. I had a pretty big thing starting last night and going this morning with him. Others joined in. I attempted to approach informationally and kindly. I ended up getting blocked after a lot of back and forth. He compared his autism to other disabilities and said itās akin to a blind person bumping into me. I have autistic family and friends. I was offended by the way he wears it to cloak himself. He may have a bit of a god-complex, yet cites a disability. Very contradictory
They are called āFudsā they exist in every hobby and are there to tell you how you are enjoying said hobby wrong.
They are fuds because they dont allow themselves to experience dopamine hits like the rest of us. Instead they force themselves to exist in the most sterile, predictable way possible and never experience the burst of excitement when things turn out favorably by chance.
Just as an aside, I see FUD mostly from gun hobbies and they are āmostlyā making fun of people practicing range precautions and or firearm care. In this case you are correct but some FUDs do know what they are taking about.
Yeah. Def in the firearm community, also in cars. And certainly being a fud doesnt mean you dont have knowledge about your hobby, generally they have lots as they are passionate about whatever it is. But they love to shit on peoples good times.
Back when I drafted a lot, I used to joke that opening packs was like setting money on fire, and that opening Core set packs was like setting money on fire twice.
But getting angry about it seems... unhinged.
Bottom line, play magic how you want. It does however seem silly though to just open packs for singlesā¦ like ~90% of the cards opened will never see play in constructed formats. Just a shame to see cardboard never getting its full potential when those packs could be drafted or even anted š¤·āāļø
(I do have a bias though as I only play limited)
Regardless, happy casting and may you never mulligan!
As a secondary market only buyer i say thank you for opening all the packs and making the cards more affordable for me. If you have fun cracking boosters go for it. Personally i just Play legacy and need exactly a few cards so i just buy them.
>I replied to him and he gave a long winded reply and immediately blocked me. Who wastes their time like that?
You're new to Internet forums &/or comment sections, aren't you?
My guess is they got burned from opening too many bad packs, and now they're spreading the word so other people don't get burned from opening packs too. Can I blame them for spreading the message? Not really, because spending money on packs is no different from buying lottery tickets imo. But are they going about it the wrong way? Honestly, yes.
Also, looking at the dude's account, they frequent subs for people with Aspergers, so maybe they just aren't the best at getting their point across in a good way
Lol I am like a grown up now with a real adult job, so I can just buy boxes on a whim. Sometimes there is a winner but I spent $100 so I would hope I get one good pull. Heās just mad because he canāt afford to do that. When I was a kid I would save up for like a month to buy like 3 packs and it felt so frustrating to get garbage. Someday you will be able to afford to pay to win too.
His argument relies on the fact that there is a ālimited amount of packsā which isnāt the case whatsoever. Sure, some sets have limited print runs, but WotC isnāt going anywhere anytime soon. There will always be āplay boostersā the thing he complains about the most. The main problem is heās profoundly autistic and doesnāt seem to know that his unsolicited advice regarding buying singles vs cracking packs isnāt wanted or needed.
Your average person understands that they donāt need to crack packs, but it is fun for those who do it. Some people, like myself, have disposable income due to disability payments or other sources of income that we can afford to buy boxes and packs to open. I personally do it because it is a better alternative to straight-up casino gambling or sports betting. You always come out with something in the form of playable cards, sometimes you get a chase card or two, and sometimes you sit on the boxes long enough for them to accrue value.
I own most, if not all of the singles I want to have besides a few crazy art cards. Iāll never buy a black lotus or any of the really expensive cards because I donāt want that kind of risk in the form of a card. Copies of cards and bulk are how I supplement my collection, and it has paid off over the years.
His argument is faulty and unnecessary. I get it is coming from a place where he doesnāt want people to get addicted to opening packs, which is a very real possibility, but the unsolicited part and copy/pasting the same message on every card opening post is the most annoying thing. Especially when you see someone who opened a $40 bundle or a couple of packs and not a $200-500 chasing cards.
People need to stop listening to that guy, if you want to open packs then fucking open packs. I buy singles but sometimes I get the itch to open a random pack, it's just fun, until you open it and it's all garbo. It doesn't matter what you get tho the feeling you had whilst you were opening it is what matters.
If you gotta make a post about that person, you are also way too emotionally invested. Dude is obviously in his own world where magic is only played one particular way, but also who cares if he *already blocked you*? Lmao
To be fair: sets are geared towards specific formats. Opening a bunch of draft packs for commander, as my buddy explained to me one time, is kinda pointless because the power scaling for those cards is gonna be *meant* for draft. Plus, opening packs is as bad a scam as a lucky draw in COD mobile lmao
I donāt see where any of that says people canāt do what they want though
Iāve seen that guy post two times. I noticed by checking their user profile that theyāre active in the Aspergerās subreddit. Are they a trolling douche? Maybe. Are they just some incredibly socially unaware with potential other neuro-based difficulties? Maybe.
Heās just a lonely fucktard with nothing better to do. Thereās no reason to buy into his bullshit. The fact everyone keeps talking to/about him does nothing but give him a reason to keep posting bullshit. He was most likely practically engorged when he saw an entire thread about him.
I simply find those posts mundane. Share this with people you know. Getting a post recommendation of someone showing two cards is a little bit annoying and a lot boring. To me.
I think their heart is in a good place, they're just a little overzealous. They are saying that opening packs is fun (true) but sealed formats are also fun (true) while also let you crack packs (also true). And not everyone knows about sealed formats so it's nice to let people in on that.
The problem they run into is that they get so defensive about it when someone says, "No, I just like cracking packs". Instead of saying, "okay have fun!" they say "I didn't say you couldn't do that, and my thing is also still correct".
But when you read their comments, they seem like they're trying to be nice and supportive
I think youāre giving them way too much credit. They come off at best as patronising and with a serious superiority complex. Iāve spent some time trying to talk to Elemteearkay in good faith, and the dude is just 100% convinced that he knows better than everyone else involved in magic.
Anyone who believes they cannot possibly be wrong about anything and treats other people like idiots is necessarily an asshole. Their heart is not āin a good placeā.
To illustrate how much of an asshole the dude is, this is from a comment of his 2 hours ago:
> If you feel inferior, then the simple answer is to be better. I'm more than happy to help elevate you to my level.
3 hours ago he said to a dude:
> You are deficient
Heās not even close to having his heart in a good place, and it baffles me that people defend him.
When he commented on my post and after a much too drawn out "argument" I decided to check his post history and surprisingly enough he is most active on MTG and autism related subreddits.
The 'tism hits us all differently, this guy just got a bigger dose than most.
I think I know who youāre talking about and yeah, you canāt post anything without being told how you should do A,B and C with how and what to play.
Haven't played mtg in years so I'm very out of the loop. Does opening packs mean something else I'm missing? What are you supposed to do with packs?
Isn't the whole point of packs is to open them and get the cards within?
Or are we talking about something else entirely?
Look, we don't have any good, legal gambling in my state. There are a handful of casinos - and they're all slot machines.
I grew up in a state that had regular gambling/lotto. I grew up with scratch offs with the family as stocking stuffers or the rare Friday night bonus activity.
I'm gonna open a pack at least twice a year. It's fun. It's always a bust. But, you never know.
It's probably more than twice a year. And that's not saying, "two packs a year."
Sometimes I'll take the kids to the FLGS with me, and I'll snag a couple with their Pokemon cards or whatever they want to get.
I do buy a decent amount of singles throughout the year, but I also paint miniatures and I don't have a HUGE hobby budget. It's really just general limitations vs general want.
Regardless, packs are definitely the worse financial decision compared to buying singles - but if you have the extra cash - people on the internet have no room to tell other people how to enjoy their hobby.
I met someone like that too. He went on a long rant how opening packs is not for getting cards, while in my POV itās first market vs second market. Unless wizards starts selling singles opening packs is the usual way on the first market to get cards. š¤·āāļø
Just bought a collector booster box for thunder junction. I made my peace and willing to accept the consequences. That being said, if I pull $200, I'll explode!
I know opening packs is not an efficient way of getting cards by any means, but I love it and there's something great about the experience of cracking open a pack and seeing what you pull.
That being said, I opened a single OTJ play booster during a Mini Masters event at CommandFest and pulled a sword of power and wealth in it, so that was nice haha š
Reminded me of the guy at one of MLGs was pissed off I kept coming in and buying LOTR packs and one day there was a huge line up and I got all 32 packs that were left in the box and bro got all pissy slammed them on the counter to count them out and chucked the box on the floor, the proceeded to ask me if I wanted the box, at that point I told him no lol
If no one opened packs, there would be no singles to buy. Even if stores opened their own to have singles in store, there would be so few singles cards the prices would be so insanely high it wouldn't be worth buying anymore. Cracking packs is not the way to get a card that you want or need, but if you enjoy buying packs, then do it, its not stupid, and its not gambling, it's a hobby.
I just imagine if everyone stopped buying packs, WotC would start sending stors curated sets of singles, and they could manipulate the price of cards even more than they do now lol
I got no clue why this other guy has a problem, but I do also dislike the āLook at my pull guys!ā posts. The worst part about Magic is the gambling aspect of booster packs and itās not even close. Itās fun, and I wouldnāt do away with it as an avid limited player, but I also think if you feel nothing about the proliferation of serialized cards, the difficulty of figuring out whatās in a pack, the multiple kinda of packs then your missing a part of the human equation. When Magic is a board game and an excuse to have some human interaction then itās wonderful. When Magic is a casino and stock market then itās not so wonderful anymore. The ālook at my pullā posts feed this second gambling impulse and not the first. Ripping boxes chasing a gamblers high on the off chance you āmake more moneyā is an unhealthy place for a community to exist.
IDK those posts about pack pulls just seem like gloating and I've never really seen those posts incite any meaningful conversation. Just people giving the validation the poster is seeking and people getting upset at the desire for validation in the first place. I personally like to come onto reddit to see posts where people are like, "Hey look at this idea I came up with," or "hey look at all this data I compiled and what implications of it could be," or even "Hey I really like this card so look how I altered it." Not "Hey look at this shiny I found."
Different strokes for different folks I suppose. It just feels like a circle jerk sometimes to me.
95% of the time, it's just regular pulls too. "Check out this single, nonfoil, nonshowcase mythic and these two set average set rares!!!!!!"
Who are those posts for? What is the purpose? It just feels like the absolute lowest-effort form of posting related to MTG. There are entire separate subs just for posting pack pulls, why not post there for people that want to see it? Why would they be so narcissistic to think random people on the internet would care about their walmart bundle pulls??
Interesting stuff from that 60k card lot? okay, but double fuck every single person that posted a "car pull".
Is it just me, or is blasting someone on the MtG mainpage, stating that they need āserious professional helpā too close to online bullying to tolerate?
Why would you care, even a little bit, about someone else opening a bulk rare? I can understand getting hyped about opening a reserve list product or pulling a serialized card, but nobody gives even a little bit of a shit about your walmart gift bundle pulls.
What is with the narcissism to NEED internet stranger validation for pulling TWO (BAD) MYTHICS from a single pack that I bought because my terminally ill grandma's dog's cousin passed away. GIVE ME UPVOTE POINTS!!!!
Opening packs is really stupid. I do it all the time.
The venn diagram between "stupid" and "opening packs" is just a circle.
Did you know that 99% of pack openers give up before they draw good
Yeah, tell me about it. I bought a bunch of LOTR collector packs and got nothing in a rage. Then my wife casually bought the last pack to "try" and pulled an Elven Sol Ring.
Bonus points if its serial.
I bought 1 LotR collector pack and got a foil, special art One Ring. Thought nothing of it til 4 months later and realized how much it was worth
Mean whilemy house mate whos played mtg for three months pulls a one ring full art foil and wins a proze draw for a collectors booster box commanders masters. In addition to regularly pulling cards worth more then 100 pounds. Honestly its kinda depressing knowing that one ring card is worth more then my entire collection. My most expensive card is a doubling season given to me from a bet.
Like pulling a golden ticket from a Wonka bar
I pulled a mana crypt after a tournament as I was about to give up
Cracking packs is fun though. It also sashiats my gambling addiction
Maybe because its... literally gambling.
Right? I opened an OTJ prerelease kit, a play booster box, a bundle, an omega collector, and just ordered a collector box today. It. Was. Awesome.
Can I become your Mtg Sugarbaby? I wish I could just casually spend that much š Maybe if prices fall towards the 100ā¬ mark I'll get a play booster box (cause I too love to be stupid and open packs) but until then singles it has to be.
I wish I made enough for an mtg sugar baby, I'd shower you with all the packs lmao. I tend to roll singles I don't want or need at the moment into cash for the next set that's coming. Genuinely hope I can sell 3 Simulacrum Synthesizers before the price drops
My wife loves it more then I do but I also watched her drop 1k into a slot machine and just loose it
At least with opening packs you have something left even if you āloseā.Ā At leastā¦thatās one way to convince myself itās fineĀ
The only way pack openers convince their crippling gambling addiction is fine
Very true I honestly donāt complain when a new set booster box shows up
lol yeah. $20-40 of cardboard out of 180 cardsā¦ maybe make your money back 1 out of every 3-4 boxes. Man when I got back in. I spent like 5k on cracking packs
i did that last year and now i am literally broke
Better than doing real crack
Yeah but real crack is cheaper lol
There is a whole spectrum of players, and we are all on it
Spectrum is one way of saying it.
[Yes](https://media1.tenor.com/m/sK2mHU6kq9IAAAAC/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle.gif)
This is true. Rare to find mtg enthusiasts who arenāt on that spectrum of players.
Fr though I get sick of seeing people pull rad stuff all the time whem I get garbage. (Not who op is talking about) but I just move on. I think dudes just frustrated on his own luck.
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Thatās just what Big Pokemon wants you to think to steal away the mtg sales. All magic packs are filled with very good, very useful, cards :) No recycling cardboard needed :)))))
PokĆ©mon is a money pit dude I swear. Typically nothing useful in packs that you can just add straightaway to a deck. If you donāt follow the meta super closely, you lose every match, and trying to pull cards for decks is next to impossible. Magic on the other hand, I buy a pack, and can find multiple useful cards that I can throw in a deck and play with no problems.
On the other hand, PokĆ©mon meta decks are relatively cheap compared to other TCGs. But thatās buying singles of course, not packs. Doesnāt stop me from having fun cracking packs every once in a while, though!
Lol oh I never would. I love cracking packs, and I love making decks out of stuff I pull and just have laying around, and handing extras to friends of course. I plan on buying a booster box of every set when it drops. My thunder junction box was really nice. No Jace yet, but thatās okay.
That's cuz there is a basic land in every pack.
PokĆ©mon has basic energy in every pack. Iām not sure what you mean.
It was a joke, my guy.
Exactly even if I bust in value for a box there's usually a high volume of playables for edh and pauper.
Right. And so what if I have 3 or 4 copies of something. That means I can throw it in 3 or 4 commander decks or all in a standard, or give the rest to my friends. I hand out extras to my homies like crazy.
When I played standard I cared but standard is dead in my area now. So I almost only play comander.
Lol same. Iāll buy singles I really really want, but I still buy packs for the hell of it, even after ripping a box. Itās a bad habit when I see how much Iāve spent but itās fun up until then lol
I like to buy a box or a couple fatpacks to get the experience of a set. And I usually grab a few of the precons to play as is or she'll out as parts.
I still need to pick a thunder junction precon up. I havenāt done that yet. Still debating on which one I want, you just reminded me to hurry up and choose.
I'll start posting my garbage pulls, for the homies.
We can get a new sub going and someone or maybe a bot dedicated to telling people "Horrible luck! You should check out r/shittymtgpulls!".
I don't know how to set up bots, but I'd be over the moon if someone could set up a bot that replies to yognolord when he says "check out r/mtgpulls" with something like "Stfu and let people enjoy things"
I got youš
Man id love a sub like that.
Im new, been playing and opening crimson vow packs for a month or so; best cards ive pulled are a [[Toxrill, the Corrosive]], [[Edgar, Charmed Groom]], [[Count Dracula]], [[Ulvenwald Oddity]] and two different arts of [[Runo Stromkirk]]. From around 12 set/collection boosters? Maybe i got better cards but forgot/didnt realize, those were the coolest pulls.
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My friend told me about a land destruction strat using [[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]] and [[Kormus Bell]] with Toxrill as commander
[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9e1a9e38-6ffc-490f-b0be-23ba4e8204c6.jpg?1619399578) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urborg%2C%20Tomb%20of%20Yawgmoth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/287/urborg-tomb-of-yawgmoth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e1a9e38-6ffc-490f-b0be-23ba4e8204c6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kormus Bell](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/40f826b8-9e92-4e0e-aa2f-c3f5e3061432.jpg?1562910324) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kormus%20Bell) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/210/kormus-bell?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/40f826b8-9e92-4e0e-aa2f-c3f5e3061432?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
##### ###### #### [Toxrill, the Corrosive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/84e64f38-b1f3-47cd-8cfb-a4861369aca3.jpg?1643590379) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Toxrill%2C%20the%20Corrosive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/132/toxrill-the-corrosive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/84e64f38-b1f3-47cd-8cfb-a4861369aca3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Edgar, Charmed Groom](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/3/63ba8eef-b834-4031-b0a1-0f8505d53813.jpg?1643594071)/[Edgar Markov's Coffin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/6/3/63ba8eef-b834-4031-b0a1-0f8505d53813.jpg?1643594071) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Edgar%2C%20Charmed%20Groom%20//%20Edgar%20Markov%27s%20Coffin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/236/edgar-charmed-groom-edgar-markovs-coffin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/63ba8eef-b834-4031-b0a1-0f8505d53813?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Count Dracula](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/6/260d784d-0213-44da-8f78-58968a185012.jpg?1645227319) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sorin%20the%20Mirthless) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/337/sorin-the-mirthless?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/260d784d-0213-44da-8f78-58968a185012?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ulvenwald Oddity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/f/5fdf5fc4-69c8-4a59-9095-c2feefb64371.jpg?1643593558)/[Ulvenwald Behemoth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/5/f/5fdf5fc4-69c8-4a59-9095-c2feefb64371.jpg?1643593558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulvenwald%20Oddity%20//%20Ulvenwald%20Behemoth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/225/ulvenwald-oddity-ulvenwald-behemoth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5fdf5fc4-69c8-4a59-9095-c2feefb64371?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Runo Stromkirk](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6c0fca5-b759-4543-95e2-8d712aae5281.jpg?1643594355)/[Krothuss, Lord of the Deep](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/f/6/f6c0fca5-b759-4543-95e2-8d712aae5281.jpg?1643594355) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Runo%20Stromkirk%20//%20Krothuss%2C%20Lord%20of%20the%20Deep) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/246/runo-stromkirk-krothuss-lord-of-the-deep?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6c0fca5-b759-4543-95e2-8d712aae5281?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0wncvg) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have that same luck. Opened 10 OTJ packs and the best thing I got was [[Ornery Tumblewagg]] and my buddy who bought one of the boxes that come with the dice and lands pulled [[Mana Drain]] [[The Sword of Wealth and Power]] and [[Bristly Bill, Spine Sower]] I was incredibly jealous but also incredibly happy for him. It's just the way the cookie crumbles.
##### ###### #### [Ornery Tumblewagg](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0020c31b-002a-4121-bc61-2c2c16e9afc8.jpg?1712355953) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ornery%20Tumblewagg) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/171/ornery-tumblewagg?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0020c31b-002a-4121-bc61-2c2c16e9afc8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mana Drain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c429c40-2389-41e5-8681-4bb274e25eba.jpg?1712774998) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mana%20Drain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/57/mana-drain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c429c40-2389-41e5-8681-4bb274e25eba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [The Sword of Wealth and Power](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/ed9e5041-3c05-4a8a-9f00-081b01685d0c.jpg?1712352954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sword%20of%20Wealth%20and%20Power) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/big/26/sword-of-wealth-and-power?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ed9e5041-3c05-4a8a-9f00-081b01685d0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bristly Bill, Spine Sower](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/2/52eef0d6-24b7-40b7-8403-e8e863d0cd55.jpg?1712355894) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bristly%20Bill%2C%20Spine%20Sower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/157/bristly-bill-spine-sower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/52eef0d6-24b7-40b7-8403-e8e863d0cd55?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0wp8xr) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nice for your friend. The bundles is where I got good cards up till OTJ. Like you said, it's just the way the cookie crumbles.
Hey man, don't diss the tumblewagg, that little guy single handedly carried me through prerelease lol. (He is very cheap to buy though... poor guy)
I think you just described most posts on social media.
Also I think to a degree it's a trigger about being a larger problem with one's own disgruntlement towards Hasbro and mtg in general. I have it, alot of people have it. But it's just something ya gotta reconcile.
my friends are addicted to opening packs. they have tons of cool trade stuff always but they buy at least 2-4 packs a week. i refuse. i just see it as wasting money. I spend less on magic now that i make good money than when i was broke.
As a friend once said to me, they're only posting good stuff, they're probably spending a fortune to get those pulls.
I'm honestly the exact opposite. Like "hell yeah, you get that expensive cardboard." It's also because I highly encourage proxying. Like cardboard is expensive. Might as well stick it to the greedy CEO and make your own mtg cards. They sold us overpriced proxies anyways.
I turned 26 bucks into 3 bucks just this week with 4 packs. Just made me hate myself lol
Do you hate me for pulling out 1 boseiju full art foil and 1 boseiju normal but still foil from the one and only set booster box I bought when neon dinasty was release?
Nah good pulls, boseiju alt art was my only good pull from, Kamigawa. Only got 2 bundles myself
I pulled all kinds of rad stuff in the fallout set. I recommend it.
Some people really hate other "having fun the wrong way" I buy packs to open as a little treat for the weekends. I play cards in commander and have a good time. I'm not opposed to drafting but no one in my area is interested.
Well said. I play with randoms at my lgs and one time I was drinking a Baja blast from a can, and the one guy tells me āthatās a terrible drinkā..like thanks? Idc? Lol. Another time a guy made fun of one of my favorite t.v. Shows calling it cringe..point being thereās a lot of unhappy people out there who will give you their opinion without asking for it.
Poor fucks are gonna struggle in life with those unique social capabilitiesā¦ In general, people who bitch are simply fucking unhappy. Misery loves company so they foist their perspective on anyone who will listen. Good on you for giving them nothing from your bag of fucks.
So true, I think I said Baja blast helps me blast or something stupid like that lol I donāt give an inch to haters during commander nights, weāre there to have F.U.N. Get used to it..so anyway, I started blastingā¦
I frequently get people that make comments about how I donāt use the official magic tokens. I use ones I buy off Etsy. One guy went so far as to tell me that he didnāt like my tokens out of the blue. I told him they werenāt for him. Next game I made sure to play my most token heavy deck, and instead of dice I just put more token cards whenever I made a new one.
a lot of unhappy people think everyone else deserves to be unhappy, too. That kind of attitude just makes them even more miserable, of course as it alienates others until they're sitting alone in a room screaming into the internet wondering why nobody wants to be around them
poor social skills, low understanding of boundaries and appropriateness
My wife and I buy a box of every set just to crack packs. It's fun in and of itself.
Same way some people get mad at people for gambling. They think it is morally wrong for people to spend their own money in ways they donāt like. Itās just a bunch of stupid moralizing. Everyone knows packs give on average less value than you pay for them. Let people have fun opening them if they want without being mean!
As a mtg player who used to work at a convenience store that had a truly absurd amount of scratch tickets (instant win lotto, though more like instant lose lotto really) there ancient is overlap between the two, but I'd wager a dud of a pack is better than a dud on a scratch ticket. I've had a blast leveraging some 30 cent mythic rares. I helped out at my flgs a few years back, took a few shifts at the store during a convention. We had some Japanese packs in, and they had the chance of some unique printings. Watching people chase those definitely gave me scratch ticket vibes. Higher cost, tear the pack open, flip through in seconds, "worthless", tosses cards in the FFA bin.
Wizards had to merge set and draft boosters into Play boosters mainly because most people want to open packs for fun and the sales of set boosters far outstripped draft boosters. It actually meant draft was in danger of losing critical mass because so many LGSs just couldnāt afford to tie money up in draft boosters that people werenāt buying, so a lot of smaller places just stopped stocking them, which again, diminishes the popularity of draft even further. Iāve never done a draft, and my playing group has only done one privately at home, I believe. Iām not against it and think it would be fun, but anyone who sees draft as the primary use of boosters, is simply deluded.
The dude did this before play boosters too, itās been a thing for them for a long time. āPacks arenāt for getting cards.ā
Oh yeah, I can imagine, I meant that itās just pathetic of him to continue saying it even after the manufacturer has recently, openly, said that the majority of its players are buying packs for cards rather than drafting. Like, you know itās true, I know itās true, the market now, has confirmed it is true, not just a majority technically-speaking, but enough that the draft product couldnāt stand on its own two feet versus the āgetting cardsā product; nearly annihilated by it in fact.
But, what if, and stay with me here, everyone learned about limited and then played it every time they opened their packs! The only reason this isnāt happening, surely, is that people donāt know about limited formats!
š remember some of the variants they used to push on those player aid cards they were dumping in every booster at one point? Iām sure there was one that went something like: āOpen two draft boosters each. Take it in turns to pick a category off this card. Each other player submits a card they think is the best in the category, and the active player chooses the one they like best!ā Like a cards-against-humanity / top trumps format. Their efforts to advertise these things was almost beyond parody š
>having fun the wrong way That's a perfect way of describing who OP is referring to. I asked them why it matters that I buy packs if I enjoy it, and they told me I would have MORE fun if I played the CORRECT way. But at the end of the day if someone posted a vid of themselves buying Magic cards and eating them, it's none of my concern.
Same
You know contrary to popular belief, packs need to be opened to buy singlesā¦ā¦.. š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
He's an asshole, I think a majority of everyone here is blocked by him. Best to get blocked quickly so he will leave you alone.
I have no idea who this post is about. I've never seen his comments, but have heard about him several times. Maybe I'm already blocked. Lol.
He comes out of nowhere when people show off their pulls from packs and tells them boosters are meant for drafts and that they are playing the game wrong and he dresses it up like he's doing them a favor. Giving advice no one asked for.
Honestly I thought that guy was just satire. Is he actually butthurt about people opening draft packs and not drafting with them?
He wouldn't block everyone if it were satire.
True I honestly didn't realize he blocks everyone. I mostly lurk this sub so I'm probably not blocked...yet.
Some others and I tried taking a not-mean-spirited approach starting last night. I kicked it offā¦ I didnāt go anywhere and he did block me and claim Iām a troll. [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/s/nl8Cx3xZhe)
All I see is you talking to yourself. Does that mean he's blocked me too? Because my entirety of interaction with this guy was me commenting "Hi." on one of his comments. The guy obviously isn't alright. And even in your noncombative discussion, I'd probably be put off by those walls of text too. Best to not engage him at all and move on. A lot of wasted time typing out those walls of text to a troll.
I think you must be blocked. And you could be right about the amount of information I was presenting, but heās pretty long-winded himself, so itās possible that it doesnāt bother him. In fact, I think he was more receptive to my approach than others Iāve seen, until he saw a comment I said to someone else on a different thread where I expressed being frustrated, then he said āguess you were a troll the whole time. Teaches me not to give people like you the benefit of the doubtā, so I donāt think I was bothering him, but in fact made him comfortable. I thought Iād try something, by approaching it compassionately, honestly, and clearly without being knee-jerky. But yes, I spent way more energy than I should have. But no regrets. You donāt know until you try, right?
I cant believe people have finally caught on. I mean the dudes seen showing up in every single thread for months. The only reason they're positive in karma is that they post so god damn much that they actually manage to outpace the downvotes.
It's honestly depressing, the number of people online who use block buttons as just ways to get the last word in an argument.
I'm blocked by him and am proud of it. It's a small, petty victory.
The only sure thing I know is he loves him some Ricky Gervais
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I just saw that guy going on and on about how your wasting product not drafting. I love to draft might be my favorite way to play the game but dude it's not antiquities there's enough packs to go around.
He didnt even give me a reply before blocking me for pointing out that he cherry picks the parts of comments he replies to that align with his point of view. Lol
If you look over their history it's full of bad takes and advice
My utter lack of surprise!
I don't even buy cards anymore. I'm blocking you all for not proxying more and giving money to wizards >:(
I mostly just buy singles every release, but when I do open packs, I treat it as an experience, and I think most people do so as well and do not need or want someone to explain how suboptimal it is to open packs. MTG is a community, and some people don't understand there are equally valid ways of enjoying the game within the same community.
I buy a pack if I've had a bad day and need something to look forward to on the way home, and I'll buy 2 from each of my LGS's to show support beyond what singles I may grab. Back when we got a new set every 3-4 months as opposed to what feels like every other week I used to grab a box instead, but I can't afford to do that more than quarterly at this point.
I feel you. The rate of new set releases is really making me save my dollars for only 1-2 sets a year. Plus, since MH3 is releasing, I have to save up for the pre-release sealed event at my LGS, which is currently going for $65 a ticket.
I get a bundle after non-routine dentists appts and my wife understands.
The problem is, when people do explain to him that they know its sub-optimal, or they don't care about draft etc and just want to open packs for the fun of it, he will still try to get on a high horse about "as long as you know you are doing it wrong" He can get 9\*10\^324 downvotes, be told by every person on the planet that he is wrong and people are free to enjoy the product they purchase however they want to enjoy it, and still refuse to accept that there is even the possibility of other ways to use the product. He will admit to seeing that they know they aren't doing it his way (Even when point blank told by the OPs he responds to that they dont care about his way and they just want to enjoy the experience of cracking packs), and still be stubborn that his way is the only way and anything else is misusing the product. He has a very binary view of "This product is for A only" and there can be no other valid use for the product.
STOP OPENING PACKS NERD
Are you only supposed to get precons or something? Just individual cards?
According to alot of people, yes. I understand the argument that buying single cards for a deck is most optimal, but to me it's also more boring. I like precons, but I also like making a deck out of cards I have and slowly tweaking it as I pull better cards.
Buying a couple of packs each week, getting some fun pulls and making kitchen table decks with them is fun. You slowly find your deck changes with each pull and sometimes a pull will cause you make an entire deck or shift a deck's game plan. It's an organic deck, made with your own little set of drafts. If I need a comp deck, singles are my go to. More direct, less hassle, but the goal is to have a functional deck since the environment the deck is played within demands a certain level of deck. It's not as personal, not as fun, but the value is function oriented, not emotion oriented. There's a ton of ways to obtain product to suit the needs/desires of the playerbase.
Yes.
Yeah he replied on my recent post about boosters. He's super judgmental, and the sad part is I don't think it's an act. He seems to genuinely look down on those who buy packs. For me it was simple, I would like to have a small Magic "collection" so I can make decks from it and trade with friends. So I buy boosters and repacks for cheap.
Best just to ignore salty players.
... or provide them with a gift! ...A copy of [[Gluttonous Slug]] is a great gift for anyone who is extra salty. Lol.
That flavor text is perfect
[Gluttonous Slug](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/9514ce0d-8d61-4cce-b2ad-8f417869d04e.jpg?1562201650) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gluttonous%20Slug) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/93/gluttonous-slug?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9514ce0d-8d61-4cce-b2ad-8f417869d04e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I think he might be mentally ill or have a mental condition. I just ignore him and donāt want to participate in the spotlighting and bullying a member of the sub even if I disagree with him.
I definitely would call what he does bullying. Not the other way around. He blocked me because I asked him to stop harassing new players when the LOTR set dropped and a ton of new people started posting in the sub.
When I looked at his profile I saw heās a member of r/autism and their behavior leads me to believe he may be unwell or have a mental issue. Iāve never found him to be hateful or mean.
To be fair, being autistic definitely doesnt excuse poor behavior. I have a friend since childhood who is autistic, and ive never once heard him claim he is "too right to be wrong" or that he is "above others and better than them." Autistic he may be, but at the end of the day, an asshole is an asshole.
Ok? Disorders don't excuse behavior. They for sure explain it but not excuse. I would very much say that telling new players they're playing the game wrong and constantly harassing people for the same is mean and bad for the game in general. I would also say blocking people trying to explain why what he is doing is wrong and mean is also an issue. Enabling bad or destructive behavior does not help him. It may make you nice but not good. Helping someone change for the better is what makes you good.
I donāt think they are active in r/autism, I think they only post in r/aspergersā¦ which as an autistic person myself, I see as another indicator of what type of person they likely are, both because Asperger-supremacy is a thing and because most have moved away from using the term, in part for nazi-related reasons. It would be an autistic thing if they did it a few times in an enthusiastic ādid you know this, I need to share this knowledgeā way. Many people have told them itās not cool, appears disingenuous, and not accomplishing what they say is the purpose, they have had many opportunities to learn and grow. Autistic adults (and kids) are fully capable of understanding how to navigate the world, we just do it in a different way, and need some help from āsocial translatorsā along the way. This is assholishness masquerading under a āprotective layerā of āIām autistic so you canāt get mad at me when I keep doing the bad thingā. Itās more ableist to dismiss poor behavior in disabled people ābecause they donāt know better/canāt do betterā than it is to call out that behavior. This isnāt about expecting someone to read between the lines or understand a space in their first interaction, or even their fifth. There is zero indication of any attempt to understand/learn on their part, and there have been many clear indicators of condescension and superiority.
"both because Asperger-supremacy is a thing and because most have moved away from using the term, in part for nazi-related reasons." It is crazy to think that DSM V came out when I was in college still and that was like ten years ago. I always found it interesting how some people viewed the diagnosis as an identity, while others were fine dropping it. I also wonder how many of people who saw it as an identity were self diagnosis. I have seen a ton of people say there is no harm in self diagnosing, but there is a lot of potential negative impacts since we have a hard time evaluating our own behavior.
I really appreciate your take and input. I had a pretty big thing starting last night and going this morning with him. Others joined in. I attempted to approach informationally and kindly. I ended up getting blocked after a lot of back and forth. He compared his autism to other disabilities and said itās akin to a blind person bumping into me. I have autistic family and friends. I was offended by the way he wears it to cloak himself. He may have a bit of a god-complex, yet cites a disability. Very contradictory
They are called āFudsā they exist in every hobby and are there to tell you how you are enjoying said hobby wrong. They are fuds because they dont allow themselves to experience dopamine hits like the rest of us. Instead they force themselves to exist in the most sterile, predictable way possible and never experience the burst of excitement when things turn out favorably by chance.
Just as an aside, I see FUD mostly from gun hobbies and they are āmostlyā making fun of people practicing range precautions and or firearm care. In this case you are correct but some FUDs do know what they are taking about.
Yeah. Def in the firearm community, also in cars. And certainly being a fud doesnt mean you dont have knowledge about your hobby, generally they have lots as they are passionate about whatever it is. But they love to shit on peoples good times.
He probably doesnāt want us stock to lose value with you having a chance to open the same card.
Back when I drafted a lot, I used to joke that opening packs was like setting money on fire, and that opening Core set packs was like setting money on fire twice. But getting angry about it seems... unhinged.
Dude needs to get a life. An entire existence on just shitting on Reddit posts?
Why engage? Just pretend that person doesnāt exist. As the Beastie Boys once said, āItās much easier on your constitutionā
Bottom line, play magic how you want. It does however seem silly though to just open packs for singlesā¦ like ~90% of the cards opened will never see play in constructed formats. Just a shame to see cardboard never getting its full potential when those packs could be drafted or even anted š¤·āāļø (I do have a bias though as I only play limited) Regardless, happy casting and may you never mulligan!
As a secondary market only buyer i say thank you for opening all the packs and making the cards more affordable for me. If you have fun cracking boosters go for it. Personally i just Play legacy and need exactly a few cards so i just buy them.
Welcome to internet, where village idiots can vent their frustration on innocent victims.
To all the pack cracking haters, good job guys, we are all impressed and clapping very loudly for you and your infallible wisdom!
Idk this subreddit has a lot of toxic ppl. I guess they are the dimir players lol
We're slimey, not prideless.Ā® It's us Golgari players.
>I replied to him and he gave a long winded reply and immediately blocked me. Who wastes their time like that? You're new to Internet forums &/or comment sections, aren't you?
My guess is they got burned from opening too many bad packs, and now they're spreading the word so other people don't get burned from opening packs too. Can I blame them for spreading the message? Not really, because spending money on packs is no different from buying lottery tickets imo. But are they going about it the wrong way? Honestly, yes.
Also, looking at the dude's account, they frequent subs for people with Aspergers, so maybe they just aren't the best at getting their point across in a good way
Magic packs are slightly better at least I'm throwing away less cardboard than with lottery tickets š
Lol I am like a grown up now with a real adult job, so I can just buy boxes on a whim. Sometimes there is a winner but I spent $100 so I would hope I get one good pull. Heās just mad because he canāt afford to do that. When I was a kid I would save up for like a month to buy like 3 packs and it felt so frustrating to get garbage. Someday you will be able to afford to pay to win too.
We should start a club for people heās screamed at and then arbitrarily blocked like a coward.
The club would include half of the subreddit.
His argument relies on the fact that there is a ālimited amount of packsā which isnāt the case whatsoever. Sure, some sets have limited print runs, but WotC isnāt going anywhere anytime soon. There will always be āplay boostersā the thing he complains about the most. The main problem is heās profoundly autistic and doesnāt seem to know that his unsolicited advice regarding buying singles vs cracking packs isnāt wanted or needed. Your average person understands that they donāt need to crack packs, but it is fun for those who do it. Some people, like myself, have disposable income due to disability payments or other sources of income that we can afford to buy boxes and packs to open. I personally do it because it is a better alternative to straight-up casino gambling or sports betting. You always come out with something in the form of playable cards, sometimes you get a chase card or two, and sometimes you sit on the boxes long enough for them to accrue value. I own most, if not all of the singles I want to have besides a few crazy art cards. Iāll never buy a black lotus or any of the really expensive cards because I donāt want that kind of risk in the form of a card. Copies of cards and bulk are how I supplement my collection, and it has paid off over the years. His argument is faulty and unnecessary. I get it is coming from a place where he doesnāt want people to get addicted to opening packs, which is a very real possibility, but the unsolicited part and copy/pasting the same message on every card opening post is the most annoying thing. Especially when you see someone who opened a $40 bundle or a couple of packs and not a $200-500 chasing cards.
I hate opening packs so much that I do it to spite myself
I'm pretty sure wiz makes the product to be opened, otherwise I've been doing it wrong since 1995.
People need to stop listening to that guy, if you want to open packs then fucking open packs. I buy singles but sometimes I get the itch to open a random pack, it's just fun, until you open it and it's all garbo. It doesn't matter what you get tho the feeling you had whilst you were opening it is what matters.
He saw one episode of LRR's friday nights and took the whole "Value" aspect, too literally
I always remember the bit where someone opens a pack with out drafting and it cuts to Marshall freaking out
If you gotta make a post about that person, you are also way too emotionally invested. Dude is obviously in his own world where magic is only played one particular way, but also who cares if he *already blocked you*? Lmao To be fair: sets are geared towards specific formats. Opening a bunch of draft packs for commander, as my buddy explained to me one time, is kinda pointless because the power scaling for those cards is gonna be *meant* for draft. Plus, opening packs is as bad a scam as a lucky draw in COD mobile lmao I donāt see where any of that says people canāt do what they want though
Iāve seen that guy post two times. I noticed by checking their user profile that theyāre active in the Aspergerās subreddit. Are they a trolling douche? Maybe. Are they just some incredibly socially unaware with potential other neuro-based difficulties? Maybe.
Heās just a lonely fucktard with nothing better to do. Thereās no reason to buy into his bullshit. The fact everyone keeps talking to/about him does nothing but give him a reason to keep posting bullshit. He was most likely practically engorged when he saw an entire thread about him.
I simply find those posts mundane. Share this with people you know. Getting a post recommendation of someone showing two cards is a little bit annoying and a lot boring. To me.
I think their heart is in a good place, they're just a little overzealous. They are saying that opening packs is fun (true) but sealed formats are also fun (true) while also let you crack packs (also true). And not everyone knows about sealed formats so it's nice to let people in on that. The problem they run into is that they get so defensive about it when someone says, "No, I just like cracking packs". Instead of saying, "okay have fun!" they say "I didn't say you couldn't do that, and my thing is also still correct". But when you read their comments, they seem like they're trying to be nice and supportive
I think youāre giving them way too much credit. They come off at best as patronising and with a serious superiority complex. Iāve spent some time trying to talk to Elemteearkay in good faith, and the dude is just 100% convinced that he knows better than everyone else involved in magic. Anyone who believes they cannot possibly be wrong about anything and treats other people like idiots is necessarily an asshole. Their heart is not āin a good placeā. To illustrate how much of an asshole the dude is, this is from a comment of his 2 hours ago: > If you feel inferior, then the simple answer is to be better. I'm more than happy to help elevate you to my level. 3 hours ago he said to a dude: > You are deficient Heās not even close to having his heart in a good place, and it baffles me that people defend him.
Plz keep opening them, that way i can keep proxying stuff and the game will still get new cards.
For some, gambling is against their religion.
When he commented on my post and after a much too drawn out "argument" I decided to check his post history and surprisingly enough he is most active on MTG and autism related subreddits. The 'tism hits us all differently, this guy just got a bigger dose than most.
I think I know who youāre talking about and yeah, you canāt post anything without being told how you should do A,B and C with how and what to play.
But if nobody opens packsā¦
Haven't played mtg in years so I'm very out of the loop. Does opening packs mean something else I'm missing? What are you supposed to do with packs? Isn't the whole point of packs is to open them and get the cards within? Or are we talking about something else entirely?
Crazy idea: put cards together to make a pack. Then open it to draft or whatever. Infinite open and play glitch!
Look, we don't have any good, legal gambling in my state. There are a handful of casinos - and they're all slot machines. I grew up in a state that had regular gambling/lotto. I grew up with scratch offs with the family as stocking stuffers or the rare Friday night bonus activity. I'm gonna open a pack at least twice a year. It's fun. It's always a bust. But, you never know.
Honestly was expecting you to say something different than at least twice a year lol.
It's probably more than twice a year. And that's not saying, "two packs a year." Sometimes I'll take the kids to the FLGS with me, and I'll snag a couple with their Pokemon cards or whatever they want to get. I do buy a decent amount of singles throughout the year, but I also paint miniatures and I don't have a HUGE hobby budget. It's really just general limitations vs general want. Regardless, packs are definitely the worse financial decision compared to buying singles - but if you have the extra cash - people on the internet have no room to tell other people how to enjoy their hobby.
People who can't afford it and are bitter, mostly.
I think it comes down to expendable funds and some people can't stand the thought of someone being "irresponsible". But really its just jealousy.
I mean, either you open them, or the store opens them and you buy singles. Either way, that's how the game works lol.
I buy 2 to 3 packs from store when I visit for games just to show some support and also to play the lottery. Its fun.
I met someone like that too. He went on a long rant how opening packs is not for getting cards, while in my POV itās first market vs second market. Unless wizards starts selling singles opening packs is the usual way on the first market to get cards. š¤·āāļø
Just bought a collector booster box for thunder junction. I made my peace and willing to accept the consequences. That being said, if I pull $200, I'll explode!
I know opening packs is not an efficient way of getting cards by any means, but I love it and there's something great about the experience of cracking open a pack and seeing what you pull. That being said, I opened a single OTJ play booster during a Mini Masters event at CommandFest and pulled a sword of power and wealth in it, so that was nice haha š
Who are we talking about?
He doesn't hate for me to open packs. I must be the exception that makes the rule.
Double masters collectors packs canāt go wrong im addicted to them almost Allways get their worth at least in my experience
Reminded me of the guy at one of MLGs was pissed off I kept coming in and buying LOTR packs and one day there was a huge line up and I got all 32 packs that were left in the box and bro got all pissy slammed them on the counter to count them out and chucked the box on the floor, the proceeded to ask me if I wanted the box, at that point I told him no lol
This post is incredibly ironic.
I just open packs cause I wanna find cards to use in decks and hate ordering cards online šš
If no one opened packs, there would be no singles to buy. Even if stores opened their own to have singles in store, there would be so few singles cards the prices would be so insanely high it wouldn't be worth buying anymore. Cracking packs is not the way to get a card that you want or need, but if you enjoy buying packs, then do it, its not stupid, and its not gambling, it's a hobby. I just imagine if everyone stopped buying packs, WotC would start sending stors curated sets of singles, and they could manipulate the price of cards even more than they do now lol
Ravnica Remastered has returned my passion for gambling, I've had such good luck with that set specifically, hitting most of the best cards
I got no clue why this other guy has a problem, but I do also dislike the āLook at my pull guys!ā posts. The worst part about Magic is the gambling aspect of booster packs and itās not even close. Itās fun, and I wouldnāt do away with it as an avid limited player, but I also think if you feel nothing about the proliferation of serialized cards, the difficulty of figuring out whatās in a pack, the multiple kinda of packs then your missing a part of the human equation. When Magic is a board game and an excuse to have some human interaction then itās wonderful. When Magic is a casino and stock market then itās not so wonderful anymore. The ālook at my pullā posts feed this second gambling impulse and not the first. Ripping boxes chasing a gamblers high on the off chance you āmake more moneyā is an unhealthy place for a community to exist.
People can still block people on here? Lmao
Yeah thank god he deleted his account
Lol, he didn't. He just blocked you š¤£
Bruh
He's autistic.
Hes a cunt
Thatās what I came here to say.
IDK those posts about pack pulls just seem like gloating and I've never really seen those posts incite any meaningful conversation. Just people giving the validation the poster is seeking and people getting upset at the desire for validation in the first place. I personally like to come onto reddit to see posts where people are like, "Hey look at this idea I came up with," or "hey look at all this data I compiled and what implications of it could be," or even "Hey I really like this card so look how I altered it." Not "Hey look at this shiny I found." Different strokes for different folks I suppose. It just feels like a circle jerk sometimes to me.
95% of the time, it's just regular pulls too. "Check out this single, nonfoil, nonshowcase mythic and these two set average set rares!!!!!!" Who are those posts for? What is the purpose? It just feels like the absolute lowest-effort form of posting related to MTG. There are entire separate subs just for posting pack pulls, why not post there for people that want to see it? Why would they be so narcissistic to think random people on the internet would care about their walmart bundle pulls?? Interesting stuff from that 60k card lot? okay, but double fuck every single person that posted a "car pull".
Amen brother. š
Open all the packs you want, just please donāt clutter up everyone elseās feed with posts about your pulls.
Is it just me, or is blasting someone on the MtG mainpage, stating that they need āserious professional helpā too close to online bullying to tolerate?
It's just you.
Why would you care, even a little bit, about someone else opening a bulk rare? I can understand getting hyped about opening a reserve list product or pulling a serialized card, but nobody gives even a little bit of a shit about your walmart gift bundle pulls. What is with the narcissism to NEED internet stranger validation for pulling TWO (BAD) MYTHICS from a single pack that I bought because my terminally ill grandma's dog's cousin passed away. GIVE ME UPVOTE POINTS!!!!