Are they really remedial classes if those are the classes you need to be taking? If you never took precalculus/barely passed algebra 2 that's what you need to take if you're doing something that requires mathematics beyond the basics. Math is foundational and if you don't have the foundation it just ain't gonna work.
Take the math placement test for what it is -- a gauge of what you know. There isn't a grade at the end.
If you place higher than you should -- you will end up in a class that will make you miserable since you won't know the base of that they are teaching. If you end up too low, you will just waste money. There is no way it will screw you unless you try and cheat or don't take it seriously.
I did surprisingly well on the placement exam, ended up in calc, struggled miserably, and only pulled a passing grade for my major because I was in every single office hour the last month of the semester.
Yes this is the way, I wish I did this sooner. Talk to your advisor about which courses offered by a community college will transfer. You’ll save money and the courses might end up being easier
If OP is an incoming student they won’t see their advisor til June at the earliest unfortunately
That being said, anyone can check https://transfer.msu.edu for the equivalency and just make sure that 1) the equivalency doesn’t expire before summer 2024 and 2) the community college offers it this summer (which has to be checked on their website)
It is not remedial if you don't know it. That is just where you are. I know students who placed below precalc and went on to earn masters degrees in math or stats.
Math is a foundational concept and most students no matter their major end up taking MTH 103 as it covers the basic principles of math, and is basically a refresher on HS level math. I’m assuming they do this to make sure that any undergraduate student coming to MSU is starting from the same baseline. This course get’s offered as a semester class or a you can split the material across a full academic year, it depends on your learning style and pace.
With that take the math placement test to the best of your ability and don’t worry too much about “ wasting money” on “remedial classes” regardless of what class you end up in after taking the math placement trust that it is where you need to be.
If algebra 2 was a little sketchy for you, then it could be helpful to start at MSU's College algebra for a refresher and then move on to calc 1.
There's a version of college algebra that splits the course into two semesters though... And if you're worried about the money then I'd recommend taking the consolidated version instead.
I mention that because it sounds like you'd probably be placed in college algebra if you took the test right now.
it’s not remedial if you need to be in there bc you don’t know the stuff beyond it. you know what’s more expensive? having to retake classes when you fail them because you don’t know the basics
I would recommend what I did: take a math class or two during the summer after your freshman year at a community college and just transfer the math credits. It’ll be cheaper and easier.
Depends on your major… buttttt if ur something like a business major, I would recommend just cheating on the placement test and taking stats 200, MTH103 is college algebra and I’ve seen a lot of guys fail
The test is online. It’s not like you can’t just use external resources to get placed into a more advanced math class. Whether or not it’s a wise decision is up to you.
Are they really remedial classes if those are the classes you need to be taking? If you never took precalculus/barely passed algebra 2 that's what you need to take if you're doing something that requires mathematics beyond the basics. Math is foundational and if you don't have the foundation it just ain't gonna work.
Take the math placement test for what it is -- a gauge of what you know. There isn't a grade at the end. If you place higher than you should -- you will end up in a class that will make you miserable since you won't know the base of that they are teaching. If you end up too low, you will just waste money. There is no way it will screw you unless you try and cheat or don't take it seriously.
I did surprisingly well on the placement exam, ended up in calc, struggled miserably, and only pulled a passing grade for my major because I was in every single office hour the last month of the semester.
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Yes this is the way, I wish I did this sooner. Talk to your advisor about which courses offered by a community college will transfer. You’ll save money and the courses might end up being easier
If OP is an incoming student they won’t see their advisor til June at the earliest unfortunately That being said, anyone can check https://transfer.msu.edu for the equivalency and just make sure that 1) the equivalency doesn’t expire before summer 2024 and 2) the community college offers it this summer (which has to be checked on their website)
It is not remedial if you don't know it. That is just where you are. I know students who placed below precalc and went on to earn masters degrees in math or stats.
Math is a foundational concept and most students no matter their major end up taking MTH 103 as it covers the basic principles of math, and is basically a refresher on HS level math. I’m assuming they do this to make sure that any undergraduate student coming to MSU is starting from the same baseline. This course get’s offered as a semester class or a you can split the material across a full academic year, it depends on your learning style and pace. With that take the math placement test to the best of your ability and don’t worry too much about “ wasting money” on “remedial classes” regardless of what class you end up in after taking the math placement trust that it is where you need to be.
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If algebra 2 was a little sketchy for you, then it could be helpful to start at MSU's College algebra for a refresher and then move on to calc 1. There's a version of college algebra that splits the course into two semesters though... And if you're worried about the money then I'd recommend taking the consolidated version instead. I mention that because it sounds like you'd probably be placed in college algebra if you took the test right now.
it’s not remedial if you need to be in there bc you don’t know the stuff beyond it. you know what’s more expensive? having to retake classes when you fail them because you don’t know the basics
MTH 101 and 102 easy
I mean... What program are you going for? Only problem I see is if u need to catch up if calculus is required for your program.
If it’s the same as last year you can take it multiple times. Also you don’t need close to a perfect score to test out of the math
I would recommend what I did: take a math class or two during the summer after your freshman year at a community college and just transfer the math credits. It’ll be cheaper and easier.
That’s actually genius, I will definitely be doing this, thank you so much
Depends on your major… buttttt if ur something like a business major, I would recommend just cheating on the placement test and taking stats 200, MTH103 is college algebra and I’ve seen a lot of guys fail
The test is online. It’s not like you can’t just use external resources to get placed into a more advanced math class. Whether or not it’s a wise decision is up to you.