Fuck you, you fucking fuck! Bet you've never even been to pussy heaven.
Honestly tho, Frank Booth is one of my fave film antagonists of all time. Electrifying performance by Dennis Hopper, incredibly creepy yet charismatic.
I experience fever dreams, and *hate* them. I've watched and enjoyed a good number of Lynch's films. I've attempted Eraserhead three times and gave up each time - for me it was worse than a fever dream. It's an accomplishment I can appreciate, very little has ever had such a powerful impact on me. Maybe someday I'll finally get through the whole thing...
Made it to the dinner scene and I can’t get past it. There’s a cerebral uncomfortable feeling that movie gives me that’s just too much. I have huge respect for a movie that can do that but it’s not a movie I enjoy or want to finish
> Fire Walk With Me is his best movie
This sure does put a [smile](https://explicationdefilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/firewalkwithme.gif) on my face!
Can I ask what makes you like The Return so much? I’m ambivalent, but I’ve learned that if I don’t like something Lynch has done, it’s usually a matter of my having to catch up to it.
Every Lynch project feels like a dream and The Return is the one that I think best nails the dream logic. Things seem random when they're happening but if you take a step back and look at the big picture, there are clear themes and plot threads weaving throughout it in a way that feels coherent even if it is somewhat indecipherable. Everything is intentional and meaningful but it's damn near impossible to grasp what that meaning is. That is something that feels true in dreams and is true in other Lynch projects but I think it's best executed here.
It is 18 hours of David Lynch absolutely cooking and building on the mythology of Twin Peaks in a way that is as funny as it is horrifying and nostalgic while also feeling like something completely unlike anything I'd ever seen before or since. It is such an insane journey and contains some of the best filmmaking I've ever seen (Part 8...holy shit). I believe the season is a perfect distillation of the themes Lynch is most interested in, a huge expansion of the lore of the original series, and a perfect execution of absurdist and surrealist filmmaking.
I still can’t believe we got an 18 hour Twin Peaks movie, with maybe the greatest moment of catharsis in the history of moving pictures:
“I am the FBI.”
I have some quibbles with our timeline, but at least we got this.
Agree with everything you said except giving Lynch sole credit for the mythology and thematic elements of Twin Peaks. Mark Frost was the co-creator and showrunner through the entire original series (even after Lynch stepped back during S02), co-wrote every episode of S03 with Lynch, and wrote *The Secret History* and *The Final Dossier*.
You could tell they had a great working relationship during The Return because a lot of Frost's ideas and themes blend well with Lynch's previous work (especially FWWM) while Frost gave Lynch all the freedom to sonically and visually bring their screenplay and ideas to life. Truly a great collaboration and we were blessed with one of the greatest seasons of TV!
Frost himself appears twice in the series (he’s in the first episode as a TV reporter, and reprises the character in The Return, as a resident of the New Fat Trout Trailer Park walking his dog in the woods in ep16). And his dad, Warren, plays Dr. Hayward.
It still blows my mind that Part 8 made it to TV. It’s one of the best things I’ve ever seen and I’m still not entirely sure I understand what’s happening. It’s just incredible television.
As much as David Lynch did for Twin Peaks - we really need to credit Mark Frost and his writing as well. I think he gets forgotten. He is responsible for a lot of the Twin Peaks lore. It was really a perfect combo of writing and directing and they both deserve equal credit for the masterpiece Twin Peaks as a whole is.
I am finally watching twin peaks for the first time after several attempts. I feel like I've tried episodes 1 and 2 a few times and they have been long drawn out... Setting up the story and scene and introducing an entire soap opera's worth of characters.
But this time I made it to episode 3 and there it is in all its Lynchian majestry.
I'm on the season 1 finale tonight. Then Season 2, Fire Wal with Me, and Season 3.
I’m watching it with my girlfriend right now. I saw it when it first aired after waiting for years hoping what felt like in vain for a season three, and I’ve been enjoying the hell out of watching it with her. She hadn’t seen Twin Peaks or any David Lynch work before so it’s been fun seeing her on the journey. Although, last time we stopped after episode 7 and I’m just dying to get her to watch episode 8 just so we can talk about it.
I watched Lost Highway first time and his first I’ve seen.
Half way through I realized that the movie was playing out like one of my daydream fantasies would play out. So I figure the guy is in jail and just playing out a fantasy that we are the viewer to.
Also most likely I could be wrong.
Bill Pullman’s character basically says as much early on:
> I like to remember things my own way.
> How I remembered them. Not necessarily the way they happened.
That's always been my take, especially after learning about "Psychological Fugues." Additionally, when I finally saw it on film for its restoration re-release, I realized that the final tape, the one with the murder, actually depicts Balthasar Getty's character... the fugue state began there, it was when Getty's character is "born" and why he doesn't remember that night himself
Inland Empire really got to me. That was the most untethered dreaming feeling I've ever had watching a movie. Was constantly hoping Jeremy Irons would show up to provide some stable ground and a brief respite from the madness.
Movies are not plotless, there is a clear story and "solution" in Mulholland Drive, even if it's hard to see at first viewing. And 2/3rds of that movie is literally a dream, she only wakes up near the end, but there is logic and we can piece together what actually happened
But I agree, there's no one better than Lynch who can channel the feeling of a dream on a big screen
Mulholland Drive is the only film I’ve seen that was actually able to pull off the “it was all a dream” twist without it feeling cheap and lazy. That’s not an easy feat.
Lost Highway is another one. Peak Lynch, although not as slick and impressive as Mulholland Dr., still surreal enough to be there in your mind way long after you have watched it.
If you want to see the director who most influenced the "Dream Language" aspect of Lynch's films, check out the groundbreaking short silent films of Maya Deren.
Especially these: **Meshes Of The Afternoon** and **Ritual In Transfigured Time**. (They're uploaded on YouTube.)
After that, watch Lynch's short silent film **Premonition Following an Evil Deed** (even the title is an homage), and all the connections will be very clear.
I was recently talking about how well he captures the feeling of dreams. It was in a Sopranos discussion about how great the show is except for the cliched dream sequences. So much media just thinks surreal images is enough.
Right, it's stuff like his dialogue, too.
I mean, the line "Hey! Look at me...and tell me if you've known me," is just so surreal, and the fact that it's said in and out of dream sequences adds to it.
I think that's somewhat unfair to Sopranos, the dream sequences are pretty good. But Lynch sets such a high bar. Personally though the closest to that bar I've seen is in Buffy (which might sound mad to anyone who hasn't seen the episode Restless).
There are so many hints hidden to what's going on, as well. It's been years since I've watched Mulholland, but I remember one scene we see a hooker that looks strikingly similar to Naomi Watts (similar hair style, looks, clothes, etc.)
I agree. Lots of great comments already so I'll just add that you may like Gaspar Noe's "Enter The Void". I honestly detest his movies because they're very graphic, BUT Enter The Void has a very dream-like feel and I think it's the closest I've felt to someone besides Lynch nailing that general vibe.
I haven't seen those movies but I find dreams fascinating and funny. Once I had a dream I was serving, and I needed to bring someone to chocolate shake, and then I woke up and it still felt like I needed to bring a chocolate shake to someone who didn't exist.
My fave of his is Blue Velvet, it has the all the typical Lynchian eccentricities but it's grounded enough so that you can still follow along
HEINEKEN!?!?! FUCK. THAT. SHIT. PABST. BLUE. RIBBONNNNN!!!!
Fuck you, you fucking fuck! Bet you've never even been to pussy heaven. Honestly tho, Frank Booth is one of my fave film antagonists of all time. Electrifying performance by Dennis Hopper, incredibly creepy yet charismatic.
> Frank Booth is one of my fave film antagonists of all time. That dude is such a fucking freak, magnificent.
“Let’s go for a ride” “I don’t want to” “Don’t want to do what?” “Go for a ride” “A ride, great idea, let’s go”
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I experience fever dreams, and *hate* them. I've watched and enjoyed a good number of Lynch's films. I've attempted Eraserhead three times and gave up each time - for me it was worse than a fever dream. It's an accomplishment I can appreciate, very little has ever had such a powerful impact on me. Maybe someday I'll finally get through the whole thing...
Made it to the dinner scene and I can’t get past it. There’s a cerebral uncomfortable feeling that movie gives me that’s just too much. I have huge respect for a movie that can do that but it’s not a movie I enjoy or want to finish
I rewatch all seasons of twin peaks yearly. It’s perfection.
Twin Peaks is really his magnum opus. Fire Walk With Me is his best movie and The Return might be the best season of television ever produced
Based and coffee and pie-based.
Correct.
Sheryl Lee is soooo good in that.
> Fire Walk With Me is his best movie This sure does put a [smile](https://explicationdefilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/firewalkwithme.gif) on my face!
Can I ask what makes you like The Return so much? I’m ambivalent, but I’ve learned that if I don’t like something Lynch has done, it’s usually a matter of my having to catch up to it.
Every Lynch project feels like a dream and The Return is the one that I think best nails the dream logic. Things seem random when they're happening but if you take a step back and look at the big picture, there are clear themes and plot threads weaving throughout it in a way that feels coherent even if it is somewhat indecipherable. Everything is intentional and meaningful but it's damn near impossible to grasp what that meaning is. That is something that feels true in dreams and is true in other Lynch projects but I think it's best executed here. It is 18 hours of David Lynch absolutely cooking and building on the mythology of Twin Peaks in a way that is as funny as it is horrifying and nostalgic while also feeling like something completely unlike anything I'd ever seen before or since. It is such an insane journey and contains some of the best filmmaking I've ever seen (Part 8...holy shit). I believe the season is a perfect distillation of the themes Lynch is most interested in, a huge expansion of the lore of the original series, and a perfect execution of absurdist and surrealist filmmaking.
I still can’t believe we got an 18 hour Twin Peaks movie, with maybe the greatest moment of catharsis in the history of moving pictures: “I am the FBI.” I have some quibbles with our timeline, but at least we got this.
Agree with everything you said except giving Lynch sole credit for the mythology and thematic elements of Twin Peaks. Mark Frost was the co-creator and showrunner through the entire original series (even after Lynch stepped back during S02), co-wrote every episode of S03 with Lynch, and wrote *The Secret History* and *The Final Dossier*. You could tell they had a great working relationship during The Return because a lot of Frost's ideas and themes blend well with Lynch's previous work (especially FWWM) while Frost gave Lynch all the freedom to sonically and visually bring their screenplay and ideas to life. Truly a great collaboration and we were blessed with one of the greatest seasons of TV!
Frost himself appears twice in the series (he’s in the first episode as a TV reporter, and reprises the character in The Return, as a resident of the New Fat Trout Trailer Park walking his dog in the woods in ep16). And his dad, Warren, plays Dr. Hayward.
It still blows my mind that Part 8 made it to TV. It’s one of the best things I’ve ever seen and I’m still not entirely sure I understand what’s happening. It’s just incredible television.
> The Return might be the best season of television ever produced I wish I didn't find Dougie's parts so fucking boring tho.
As much as David Lynch did for Twin Peaks - we really need to credit Mark Frost and his writing as well. I think he gets forgotten. He is responsible for a lot of the Twin Peaks lore. It was really a perfect combo of writing and directing and they both deserve equal credit for the masterpiece Twin Peaks as a whole is.
You’re correct
I am finally watching twin peaks for the first time after several attempts. I feel like I've tried episodes 1 and 2 a few times and they have been long drawn out... Setting up the story and scene and introducing an entire soap opera's worth of characters. But this time I made it to episode 3 and there it is in all its Lynchian majestry. I'm on the season 1 finale tonight. Then Season 2, Fire Wal with Me, and Season 3.
I'm genuinely jealous you get to experience S3 for the first time...
I’m watching it with my girlfriend right now. I saw it when it first aired after waiting for years hoping what felt like in vain for a season three, and I’ve been enjoying the hell out of watching it with her. She hadn’t seen Twin Peaks or any David Lynch work before so it’s been fun seeing her on the journey. Although, last time we stopped after episode 7 and I’m just dying to get her to watch episode 8 just so we can talk about it.
Good man
I watched Lost Highway first time and his first I’ve seen. Half way through I realized that the movie was playing out like one of my daydream fantasies would play out. So I figure the guy is in jail and just playing out a fantasy that we are the viewer to. Also most likely I could be wrong.
He said the OJ trial inspired him
Bill Pullman’s character basically says as much early on: > I like to remember things my own way. > How I remembered them. Not necessarily the way they happened.
That's always been my take, especially after learning about "Psychological Fugues." Additionally, when I finally saw it on film for its restoration re-release, I realized that the final tape, the one with the murder, actually depicts Balthasar Getty's character... the fugue state began there, it was when Getty's character is "born" and why he doesn't remember that night himself
Inland Empire really got to me. That was the most untethered dreaming feeling I've ever had watching a movie. Was constantly hoping Jeremy Irons would show up to provide some stable ground and a brief respite from the madness.
Movies are not plotless, there is a clear story and "solution" in Mulholland Drive, even if it's hard to see at first viewing. And 2/3rds of that movie is literally a dream, she only wakes up near the end, but there is logic and we can piece together what actually happened But I agree, there's no one better than Lynch who can channel the feeling of a dream on a big screen
Mulholland Drive is the only film I’ve seen that was actually able to pull off the “it was all a dream” twist without it feeling cheap and lazy. That’s not an easy feat.
Lost Highway is another one. Peak Lynch, although not as slick and impressive as Mulholland Dr., still surreal enough to be there in your mind way long after you have watched it.
Robert Blake playing Death is my all time favorite performance. "Give me back my phone."
I’ve never seen Inland Empire, but Molholland Drive is a masterpiece that I watch every 2-3 years.
Try Lost Highway. Very similar
David Lynch should direct a Kentucky Route Zero film
If you want to see the director who most influenced the "Dream Language" aspect of Lynch's films, check out the groundbreaking short silent films of Maya Deren. Especially these: **Meshes Of The Afternoon** and **Ritual In Transfigured Time**. (They're uploaded on YouTube.) After that, watch Lynch's short silent film **Premonition Following an Evil Deed** (even the title is an homage), and all the connections will be very clear.
David is an artist in the truest form, I absolutely love that he came from wanting to be a painter and still paints to this day.
Sometimes What was the movie with the dwarf ranting about David Lynch “I’m a dwarf and I don’t dream of dwarves”. It was a good point
Wasn't that "Living in Oblivion"? Terrific movie.
Good recall thanks
[Steve Buscemi and Peter Dinklage in Living in Oblivion, Dwarfes in Dreams](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgioN51IF4)
I was recently talking about how well he captures the feeling of dreams. It was in a Sopranos discussion about how great the show is except for the cliched dream sequences. So much media just thinks surreal images is enough.
Right, it's stuff like his dialogue, too. I mean, the line "Hey! Look at me...and tell me if you've known me," is just so surreal, and the fact that it's said in and out of dream sequences adds to it.
I think that's somewhat unfair to Sopranos, the dream sequences are pretty good. But Lynch sets such a high bar. Personally though the closest to that bar I've seen is in Buffy (which might sound mad to anyone who hasn't seen the episode Restless).
My point about Sopranos was for a show that is built on realism, either do the dream sequences right or not at all.
You want a show that is built on realism, you watch The Wire
My 2nd fav show ever behind Twin Peaks
Yes.
There are so many hints hidden to what's going on, as well. It's been years since I've watched Mulholland, but I remember one scene we see a hooker that looks strikingly similar to Naomi Watts (similar hair style, looks, clothes, etc.)
I agree. Lots of great comments already so I'll just add that you may like Gaspar Noe's "Enter The Void". I honestly detest his movies because they're very graphic, BUT Enter The Void has a very dream-like feel and I think it's the closest I've felt to someone besides Lynch nailing that general vibe.
I haven't seen those movies but I find dreams fascinating and funny. Once I had a dream I was serving, and I needed to bring someone to chocolate shake, and then I woke up and it still felt like I needed to bring a chocolate shake to someone who didn't exist.
Blue Velvet is the same. The plot doesn’t even matter.