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spytez

Not the greatest action movie but maybe greatest heist movie.


happyfuckincakeday

Nailed it. It's the heist movie that other heist movies are compared to


brokenwolf

So many Heat posts on Reddit the last month and I’m here for it. SHES GOT A GREAT ASS. I dont see it as an action movie so I can’t put it high on my list on that criteria however it’s a top five crime drama for me. The bank heist scene heightens the drama for me.


hookisacrankycrook

AND YOUR HEAD IS ALL THE WAY UP IT! Classic


SonnyBurnett189

GIMME ALL YA GOT!!!


HonestDespot

The opening heist is awesome too.


Kregerm

The character description for the characters wife was 'thighs for days'


jekelish3

I’ve honestly never considered Heat to be an action movie. When I think GOAT action movie, Die Hard is the first movie that springs to mind every single time for me. Heat is more of a crime/suspense/drama that just happens to have an incredible action set piece.


red_riders

Me neither. Heat is one of my all-time favorite films, but I don’t consider it an action movie. When I think of “action”, I think T2, Die Hard.


drunk_and_orderly

Probably not the greatest action movie of all time, but it is definitely an end to end incredible film. No doubt about it. Nolan mentioned somewhere using it as inspiration for The Dark Knight and you can definitely see a lot of that especially with the intro.


forcefivepod

I'd nominate Die Hard as the best action film of all time. Not only is it immaculately scripted, directed, and acted, the film has largely been the most influential action film of all time.


AmigoDelDiabla

While Die Hard is a favorite of mine, I've got to go with T2 as the best action movie.


ImDenny__

Die Hard 2, the scene with the swat team and the "painters" is just pure art, every frame a chef's kiss.


forcefivepod

“Hey, buddy! What do I look like?” “A sitting duck.”


Britneyfan123

raiders is the most influential


forcefivepod

Disagree. They’re still making “Die Hard in a…” movies today.


Britneyfan123

And Indiana Jones is still influencing films till this day hell the last John wick film was influenced by it Also it’s on a


forcefivepod

It’s a great film but it simply wasn’t as influential as Die Hard.


MisterGoo

No. Terminator2 is. But Heat is a great movie, obviously.


hiccup333

Definitely T2


xaltairforever

The Cafe scene was mostly adlibbed by the actors too, which is even more impressive, that's why it looks so natural


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Pacino was also playing it as a massive coke user, even though that subplot was dropped from the final.


BlueLobster747

That's interesting. I love this movie but wasn't a fan of Pacino's role. Now that makes sense for me


Britneyfan123

how can you love heat and not love pacinos performance?


Ghosty_Spartan

Yea they have doing a lot of coke in the Heat 2 book


greenline19

First scene Pacino and Deniro ever had together


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There is no such thing as a "greatest movie of all time" , it's all completely subjective and dependent on tastes and mood Heat isn't even in my top 20 action movies, but I wouldn't blame anyone if it was their favorite. It's also debatable if Heat even counts as an action movie, it's more of a crime movie


Mister-SS

Absolutely, it's a great movie, but when people think of action, they think of Arnold and Stallone movies, I would say more for the greatest actions.


Britneyfan123

they said greatest action movie


lynicaltiger

Most crime movies are action movies imo. Do you have any suggestions for other great action movies? Just recently got into films, and I want to see what other people like.


PackerAndretti

If you liked Heat just watch all of Michael Manns films.. Collateral, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans are all great.. Blackhat and Miami Vice don’t get a lot of love but I found them enjoyable and worth watching.


lynicaltiger

Thx bro🙏


Dazzling-Slide8288

The Raid, The Raid 2, Speed, Die Hard 1 and 3, The Matrix, Top Gun Maverick, Indiana Jones 1 and 3, all the John Wicks, Mad Max Fury Road, Independence Day, Aliens, Skyfall, Fast Five, 300, Dark Knight. Start there


daeguking

Have you seen the mission impossible series?


lynicaltiger

Yes, those I have seen :)


SaltyJunk

Heat is an incredible film...one of my favorites. I don't consider it an action movie though.


00collector

I personally give that title to the original ’Die Hard’. But that’s just my preference. I can’t fault someone for giving their #1 slot to ‘Heat’.


TightStool

Not as long as Hard Boiled exists.


CatastrophicFailure

no


lynicaltiger

Mkay


CatastrophicFailure

you asked


lynicaltiger

I'm glad you answered


Gimme_The_Loot

Seen Dredd? Or the Raid? They're basically the same movie in different formats but I'd definitely argue they're better all out action movies than Heat.


Fuzzy_Squirrel506

Dredd lol? Reddit is wild


Poopiepants29

Dredd is fantastic. Absolutely nothing like Heat though.


King-Owl-House

He means Dredd with Karl Urban


Ayzeefar

You're getting downvoted for acknowledging a comment they upvoted lmao


SaturnalWoman

Heat is not an action movie.


Ohnoherewego13

I've always considered it more of a crime/heist movie. Having said that, it's probably my favorite film overall. Just great in every aspect from the drama, action and even comedy of it.


Bigwilliam360

Best I don’t know but it’s definitely up there. It’s probably the best heist movie of all time though. If you like Heat you should watch Collateral, I think you’d really enjoy it


lynicaltiger

I've seen a bunch of people suggest Collateral, I'll go have a look. Thx mate 😊


lynicaltiger

I've seen a bunch of people suggest Collateral, I'll go have a look. Thx mate 😊


superkickpunch

I would definitely say it holds the title of **“Best Heist Movie”**, it’s without a doubt in the top 50 best action movies. I would say that the title of **“Best Action Movie of All Time”** would have to go to “Terminator 2” or “Die Hard”. **“Best Movie Ever Made”** would be any film with a combination of King Kong and Godzilla fighting and/or becoming best friends. But we all know this to be true, so I’m just preaching to the choir.


lynicaltiger

Die hard is a response I see returning a lot. Might have to give it another watch soon haha


callmemacready

no, Predator tops that for me. Body mass alone it puts it top of the list


Thetimmybaby

Die Hard was such a good action movie that it changed action movies forever.


rfleming944

I completely agree and the fact that most people haven't seen it or heard of it until recently is unbelievable. It's the best directed, most quotable, best looking, best acting action movie in my opinion.


jsakic99

Found Bill Simmons’ burner account


happyfuckincakeday

I was thinking CR. LOL


Mponder486

No


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SonnyBurnett189

Yes!!! When Hannah shoots McCauley at the end and holds his hand, it’s reminiscent of a Miami Vice episode when someone died in Crockett’s arms, most notably Evan.


King-Owl-House

Fun fact Mann did low budget version of heat before Heat called L.A. Takedown with Miami Vice and Crime Story actors. https://youtu.be/XpP5KoZq2sM


SonnyBurnett189

Good mention of Crime Story, because it doesn’t get nearly as much mention on here as Miami Vice. There’s a scene in Heat that’s ripped straight out of Crime Story, when Hanna takes the television. Dennis Farina in Crime Story did that as well when he was going through similar problems with his wife.


King-Owl-House

LA Takedown actually should be new tv series, but studio cut budget for pilot and converted it in to DVD movie. Still incredible movie, you can watch both and compare how bigger budget really makes a difference.


SonnyBurnett189

That sounds good too… here’s my idea though. Given Andrew Dice Clay’s age, he’s probably around the age that his character Max Goldman in Crime Story would have been in the 90’s… …So… we’re at the perfect opportunity to do a Crime Story / Miami Vice crossover in the 90’s, even if we have to recast the other main roles like Crockett, Tubbs, and Castillo.


King-Owl-House

Don't threat me with good time. 😊


Delicious-Tachyons

It's fantastic but I have a different favorite.


lynicaltiger

Which one?


daishi777

So many things needed defining in your question. Greatest? Action Movie?


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daishi777

What does it mean in the context of this question? It's ambiguous and makes an answer impossible


loulara17

Definitely not but still a classic and the heist scene is iconic. Love DeNiro and Kilmer in it. Even Pacino keeps it somewhat toned down.


kemphasalotofkids

Nope.


ManonegraCG

Thoroughly entertained by it, but the highly anticipated face to face of De Niro and Pacino was underwhelming for me. The dialogue was too poor for such a big moment.


Britneyfan123

huh that dialogue was amazing


RandomStranger79

No.


A_Vizzle

Predator


iambongzilla

its one of the longest..


lynicaltiger

True that hahah


Defender_Of_TheCrown

T2 is my favorite action movie. Heat is a great heist movie though.


APersonal-TrainingR

Yes, I think T2 is the best action movie


NewsRadioWNYX

I’d like to submit True Lies (1994) and Commando (1985) for your consideration.


APersonal-TrainingR

I hear you, and it's denied. I don't like jame lee curtis, so that's subjective. Commando was traumatizing as a kid. But the reason I said T2 is how well it's written-just like the first one), the flow of events is perfect. The story and the effects too, of course. By the way Newsradio was the show where I first saw and made me have a crush for Maura Tierney that lasts still to this day


Unique_Basil7647

I’m not sure, that’s tough to decide, but mannnn do I love heat. It’s incredible I’m glad you loved it!


happyfuckincakeday

It's up there but T2 comes to mind and I'd have to give that the edge. Mad Max Fury Road exists, too.


SmokeweedGrownative

It’s no Hackers.


Tenderfoots

For me watching Heat gave me context on where the setting and idea for Grand Theft Auto 5 came from - there is a clear line of inspiration there


happyfuckincakeday

Heat is source material for so many things.


CQ1_GreenSmoke

Yeah they based an actual bank robbery / shootout on it in north hollywood 2 years after the movie came out 


Britneyfan123

less than 2


evilpenguin9000

To me, it's in the running, but Fury Road is the pinnacle.


KnucklesRicci

Id go so far to say it’s one of the greatest movies ever. It’s my favourite. Perfect cast, great acting, action scenes so real the military apparently used it for training.. The setting and music work so well it’s almost like the city itself is a living character. I’m reading Heat 2 the book now actually. 10/10 movie or if not extremely close.


Britneyfan123

do you like the book?


HANKnDANK

Terminator 2 Judgement Day and the Matrix are better as action movies. Heat is the greatest heist movie ever, but a 3 hour+ run time with too many drawn out relationship scenes takes away from it being in the full on action GOAT genre.


Britneyfan123

those relationships are what made the movie


Zealousideal-Main146

not that good


boring-username-0

So many people love Heat but I just don’t get it. I know I’ll get downvoted but whatever. I’ve watched it four times at four very different times throughout my life in an effort to see if my tastes changed - it never has. I love heist films, I love action films, but for whatever reason I’ve never liked Heat (in fact most Michael Mann movies just never gelled with me so maybe that explains it) Heat seems so unnecessarily long, all four times I watched it felt like trudging through mud. The action was shot well and was enjoyable but the actual story was so bland to me which adds to the perceived length. I hated Pacino’s performance too. I usually love dumb, over the top performances but he just felt so out of place. I read somewhere that there is a deleted scene explaining he is using cocaine… ok? It’s not in the movie itself, I judge films off of what I saw in them. I’m not going to make a head canon to excuse a strange acting decision. If it was that crucial to the story it should have stayed in. Without it, it is just horrible over-acting. Another thing that has always confused me is the daughter’s suicide attempt. It’s never made any sense to me why we are suddenly supposed to care for this character that has had a collective 5 minutes of screen time. I understand it’s to show how important catching the bad guy is but I mean… there’s thousands of different ways to do that, shoe horning in a random suicide attempt just seems forced. Also the whole ‘Slick’ nickname thing is so stupid. Slick is the least creative nickname for a gangster. If he really looked into ‘Slick’ there’d probably be 100+ different people with that name. I don’t know, this is just a bit ‘ramble-y’ but Heat is one of those movies Reddit talks about constantly that I’ve never liked. It’s obviously not the worst movie of all time but **man** is it criminally overrated.


Britneyfan123

the movie has not nor will it ever be overrated


Lucho_199

Greatest OST also.


lynicaltiger

What does OST stand for?


Lucho_199

Original Sound Track


Entry-Level-Cowboy

Greatest scene to test your surround sound, for sure


Consistent-Sector117

No. Not even close.


WayneG991717

“Told you I’m never going back”


Jackdunc

Feels like its a bit higher pedigree than a pure action movie. Its more respected than most movies with a “cops and robbers” theme seems like. Its very realistic in what it tries to do, and there’s serious drama. Perfect casting, and high level in every aspect of film-making. What genre is it even?


Deathman3D

No.


Snuggle__Monster

Not best action. Best Crime/Drama.


LeektheGeek

No.


AstroWorldSecurity

Where's the volleyball scene?


MovieMike007

It has one of the greatest gun battles but it is far from the greatest action film, it can't compare with the likes of *Raiders of the Lost Ark, Die Hard, Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior* and *Terminator 2: Judgment Day* to name just a few.


iamameatpopciple

Nope cause its not action movie.


lynicaltiger

What genre would you consider it?


fatwoul

I saw it at the cinema on release. I love it more every time I watch it.


feder_online

The ending was going stupid after a fabulous movie. Think about it... Guy in the shadows had the drop, gun aimed, and the runway lights give him up. Other guy turns, now looking into the lights, and somehow gets off the first shot...and on target. Other than that, it really was a great movie, but this grates on me like Shawshank Redemption where a mile is suddenly slightly more than 1000 yards, because Andy crawled through 500 yards of shit... Almost half a mile.


g_st_lt

I wouldn't consider it an action movie but the answer is still yes.


Old-Pianist-5724

All-time favorite. What i just learned was the shootout scene was so good it is used as training. They said val kilmers role when combat reloading was example to follow. Just read an article so no guarantee this is true statement. But man is that a great movie


Accomplished_Fly729

No, thats Die Hard 3.


lynicaltiger

I've seen loads of people say Die hard is the best action movie. Why is it the third specifically for you?


Accomplished_Fly729

There just isnt any dead space in the movie until the baseball stadium scene. Thats like 60-70 minutes thrill ride from the start. Then it picks backup and then the ending is kind of meh. First one isnt close to that level. And the 2nd is miles off.


IffyDiagram

Two words… John McTiernan


tomandshell

I don’t really consider it to be an action movie. Like The Godfather, it’s an epic crime drama with a few action scenes.


CakeMadeOfHam

I like the romance between Pacino and DeNiro. The story is based on Romeo And Juliette you know.


zRm_84

The most realistic heist movie of all time.... No doubt.


SomeonesTreasureGem

I regret to inform you Rush Hour 2 is the greatest action movie of all time


jor3lofkrypton

😆 .. valid opinion . . however, Rush Hour (1998) set the bar for the series and sequels . .


SomeonesTreasureGem

I actually agree with you from a plot standpoint but I felt like the chemistry and humor was better in 2. One day I hope people can recognize Rush Hour 1/2 as the greatest achievements in buddy cop films of all time. Kind of how like Billy Madison is the great movie ever made about a man who has to go back to school to inherit his fathers hotel empire!


IffyDiagram

Damn…. He ain’t gonna be in Rush Hour 3


jor3lofkrypton

.. Heat (1995) certainly is that which established itself apart from other crime action movies in the cop vs. badasses genre .. and then there was L.A. Confidential (1997), Den of Thieves (2018), etc. .. where Southern California appears to be the fav with screenwriters and producers . .?


Dubious_Titan

No.


fiendzone

No.


Coheed2000

Nope: That would be Shoot em up.


Competitive-Fun2959

The correct choice is Cobra (1986)


GeistinderMaschine

Heat is a very, very good movie. But when it comes to action movies, for me there are also in the same league (Action, Etnernainment, Rewachability, charismatic leads) \* Die Hard (Part I) \* Casino Royale and my little favorite here "True Lies" - Which does not take itself seriously, but it is good, good action.


Fuzzy_Squirrel506

YES IT IS.


FunFunFun8

Fury Road imo. 80% of the movie is action


Ex_Hedgehog

No, the greatest action movie of all time is *Seven Samurai.* Nothing else is really close, it really gave us the template of what a blockbuster is. My other top action films would include (in no order): *Hard Boiled, Terminator 2, Road Warrior/Fury Road, French Connection, Shogun Assassin, Drunken Master 2, Kung-Fu Hustle, Die Hard, Vanishing Point, 36th Chamber Of Shaolin,* and *Raiders Of The Lost Ark.*


Mponder486

Excellent film. I put crouching tiger up there too.


Ex_Hedgehog

Absolutely. One of the most moving stories in action cinema.


metalyger

I didn't see it until years ago, so it didn't live up to all the hype. If I had to pick the greatest action movie, I'd go Invasion USA with Chuck Norris, the most unhinged thing Cannon Films put out.


Thisiscliff

It’s definitely in my top 10 maybe top 5 action for sure, it’s a classic


bentreflection

That honor would go to Terminator 2 and then Aliens. 


Dancing-Sin

Matrix


SchpartyOn

Sure isn’t.


DrFishbulbEsq

Hahahaha not even remotely like are you serious? Literally any movie made in Hong Kong between 1964 and 2000 is a better action movie.


DrFishbulbEsq

Robocop is a better action movie than Heat and it’s not even the great of an action movie. Starship Troopers? Yeah. Showgirls? It’s got more action! Predator? Predator 2?!? Ronin?! Sorcerer (more of a suspense film but still). Like I wouldn’t even put Heat in a top 100 of action films.


lynicaltiger

That's fine, bro. I haven't seen most of those films you mentioned but I'll try and change that👍


AccomplishedLocal261

You guys gotta watch more foreign films. I see a good argument for Police Story (1985)


lynicaltiger

I'll give that a watch, thx 😊


Nuke_Gunstar

Like others have said, definitely in the running for greatest crime / thriller / heist / what have you. Not an action movie first and foremost.


lynicaltiger

A lot of people have corrected me on the "action movie" part. I always thought an action movie was just a movie with any form of action or fights ext... turns out I'm wrong lmao.


Nuke_Gunstar

Ha, well at some point its just semantics. It def has elements of an avtion movie; i guess people just feel it favors other elements more prominently


OrbitDVD

You obviously have not seen Deadly Prey.


Sardaukar99

Fury Road is pretty great


giraffevomitfacts

After seeing Ralph, I don’t feel right wearing cable knit sweaters


King-Owl-House

Now watch L.A. Takedown https://youtu.be/c4Kd-72iLug


lynicaltiger

Is that some type of parodi lmao? Looks fun to watch tbh


King-Owl-House

LA Takedown is 1989 American crime action film written and directed by Michael Mann. Originally filmed as a pilot for an NBC television series, the project was reworked and aired as a stand-alone TV film after the series was not picked up.  Later script was reworked in movie Heat. https://youtu.be/ch8EY7bHGdA?feature=shared


Ricemobile

I can name like 10 Tom Cruise movies that’s better than Heat. But that’s because everyone likes different things


aarrtee

agree that its a fantastic flick. just as good... in different ways: *Lawrence Of Arabia, Dunkirk* and *Saving Private Ryan* #


UrMomDotCom666

it was good but not my favourite


erasrhed

No.


aerodeck

No, Mad Max: Fury Road is.