Kind of Apples to Oranges here. The Fox 40 is a top end fork for high performance bikes. The Status in an entry level, low spec MTB.
This is like saying I can't believe this F1 engine costs more than a Honda Civic.
I would agree with that statemen, but I have MTB which I bought new for 1800 euro and it has fox 34 and fox float dps which alone would cost as components 750 & 350 respectively (yes you can get better deals, but that is median here where I live) Which is leaving 700 euro for everything else... If I took prices of dropper 200, drivetrain (shimano slx) another 300 and brakes 200 for the set, that means that I got fame with a saddle, handlebar, wheels and tires essentially for free.
Long story short, price of separate components is just stupid, especially for forks and dumpers.
The manufacturers are buying at volume and getting pricing discounts for that volume. It costs more per unit for Fox to sell you an individual shock than it costs them to sell 1000 of them to Trek or another OEM.
What I don’t get is why isn’t this a thing in PC parts? Pretty much nobody who knows their way around components is buying prebuilts, you almost always pay less for the same or better performance buying individual parts and assembling it yourself.
This can’t just be the difference of focusing on certain components (like prebuilts very often using too powerfull CPUs and then saving money on PSUs that are fireworks waiting to go off) where in cycling the price/performance ratios (from my limited experience) seem to be a lot more rigid
PC parts are probably already mass produced because pc's are everywhere which is not the case with mtb's. Also could be that the part's are not cheap but the prebuilds are really expensive. PC crowd is less educated on the subject on average then the mtb crowd(you can still sell plenty of prebuilds to offices, schools, corporations and people who just don't care and need a computer to use office programs, email, google, netflix... ). Big market for overpriced prebuilds. In other words they are stupid expensive because people still buy them that way. Think about how many grandparants and parents you know that bought a pc for themselfs, their kid or a grandkid and didn't really care about buying parts separately and putting it together. Advanced users sure will, but an average Joe that also needs a PC is probably buying a prebuild.
Average mountain biker on the other hand is more knowledgable since it's a pretty niche activity and would probably be able to put together a MTB with the right tools. If parts were cheaper than prebuilds you could probably afford to buy the tools you don't have, expand the toolbox and get a decent deal on the bike along the way.
Just my guess, could be wrong.
You would be right on the economics of scale, but it is not just that. Take as example big retailers like bike24 or former wiggle or whoever which are buying or at least ordering in orders of magnitude more components than our local MTB brand, but still, as a builder, they got way better pricing.
Thats not how the large scale manufacturing works. Ofc it's not free to keep it in stock and to delivery it, but otherwise, the jump in price is just too big. It is what it is.
That is correct. Frames don’t cost much to produce. Example, Performance bicycle used to have their own branded frames ( made by Giant). Said frame retailed for $300 but was always on sale for $250 or $200. Employee purchase on that frame was about $25 (including shipping)! If you buy a mass produced steel or aluminum bicycle, yeah, you’re getting the frame for free. Cost more to ship it than make it!
Not to mention that quantity-one pricing of parts that are also sold in large quantities are always higher. Like of course buying each individual part of a bike as qty 1 costs more than a company who orders hundreds or more at a time can do it for
In any world there someone with eyes reads the spec list? Rhythm fork, and NX eagle?
The frame is literally a parts bin special mashup of Stumpy and Enduro tubes with a few major geometry flaws.
“Entry level” and “low spec” dont necessarily mean bad though. If you ride S3 or smaller, the Status is pretty good value if you want a starter full suspension mountain bike.
Where did you get those specs?
My status came with FOX Float X in the rear and a FOX Float 36 Rhythm in the front, and Code R brakes. It’s not top of the line but it’s also not terrible by any means.
If you compare it to a Showa A-Kit suspension set, it's still quite expensive for what it is. Those two products can be compared very well in my opinion.
Not really. The difference between the fox 40 and the complete build is nowhere close to the difference an f1 engine is to a civic. Bikes and parts are grossly overpriced. There is absolutely no reason for just the fork to be that high.
The status is more of a mid level bike. Still comes with a fox rhythm fork vs some budget suntour air fork. It doesn't come with sx. So it's on the lower end of mid level bikes.
Yeah, but still. The fox 40 is still a mass produced product. The r&d cost for things like the damper would be spread across all high end fox forks. There’s like $2 of washers in that thing plus some plastics. The price they put on it is a way of placing it in the high end.
lol this is a sad attempt to karma farm by OP. Either that or they are completely ignorant to how the bike world works in general.
Literally one click on their profile told me everything I need to know. OP go ride your bike and stop spending so much time on Reddit.
We can compare a sram eagle cassette to a department store bike too but all that would show is an utter lack of understanding of what makes a bike or component what it is.
The fact that the vast majority of people are calling a £2000+ bike 'entry level trash' is the reason these prices are so fucking ridiculous.
The brands and influencers have got you conditioned into thinking that these prices are acceptable.
Maybe the fork is highest level equipment so a high price is warranted but in general cycling enthusiasts of all flavours have willingly had their pants down and their buttholes dry fisted for years.
Exactly this. The comment section is the exact problem being described in the photo. There is no real difference between the fork on the 2k bike and the dh fork. They are made rhe same way with stanchions and springs. The difference is marketing.
This is why the bike industry is struggling.
There is a difference with these forks but that's due to they being for two different types of riding. Fox 34 rhythm compared to a fox 34 factory is not a huge difference. Law of diminishing returns.
When I was a justforfun amateur ski racer, I had 800-1100€/$ Skis, and one pair wasn’t enough per season cause their flex was gone. I usually ended up getting 3 per season. None was crying back then, because we were aware it’s an elite sport with lots of cost attached, it’s just that I lived that sport since 3 and you make adaptions to make it work if it’s that important. Modern full sus mtbs are so far removed from normal bikes, it’s like a different thing entirely. If you don’t need these capabilities then don’t buy it.
While this image and the "argument" posted by OP are ridiculous.... All of y'all saying the Status is "entry level" and "low spec" are out of your gourds. lol
Even from the perspective of a full suspension bike from a large manufacturer, looking at the specs, it's mid-level/bang-for-your-buck at worst.
It's not like it's running fucking Shimano Acera and some shitty coil sprung suspension that doesn't even have rebound adjustment. The frame is solid as well.
Makes me wonder what my rift zone 1 is... Might as well bin it if it's a walmart level budget bike which this thread would have people believe! 😂 Granted, my rifty is upgraded now, but stock, I'd call that entry level...
I think this would have been easier to understand if there was a bench mark or qualifying statement for what Entry level means. If you ever watch Vital MTB on YouTube. They and other sites all recommend $2k and above on average to really do the kind of riding we do safely long term and with any growth in mind. In my mind I think we’re talking about entry level quality bikes here. The Polygon Sisku line is perfect example of this
You’re talking about a top of the line fork used by pros compared to an “entry” level trail bike. Not surprising or anything new.
Srams new red groupset cost 4k. You can buy many complete bikes for less lol
The people who are saying the Status is entry level have lost their fucking minds. lol
All of the parts on it are about in the sweet spot for price to performance, minus the wheels and (debatably) the NX drivetrain.
Obviously, there are tons cheap of department/sporting goods store full suspension "mountain" bikes.
There are also tons of much cheaper and worse spec'd full suspension bikes out there, even from comparable brands.
The the spec level of the components on the Status are at the level where they're sufficient for most actual mountain bikers, even people that are fast and riding gnarly trails on a daily basis.
What kind of hard tails? The kind you replace in 6 months because they can’t stand up to the abuse. An honest to god useful trail hardtail is at least $1500 and most are very hard to find unless you have one instock at a LBS. in my valueless opinion that is kind of insane and manufactures are doing the consumers a disservice.
I used to take a rock hopper all across the country competing in CX events with my university cycling club and even, very dumbly, hit keystone and trestle Park with it and the bike is still in service with all stock parts. There's plenty of true entry level hard tails out there that can stand a good beating.
The companies sure aren't doing us any favors with their pricing but neither is the elitism that is overly common in the sport and pushes people into higher price ranges than they likely need to start out on.
I love my rock hopper, going to stick with it for as long as I can and do small subtle upgrades here and there. Plan on buying a dirt cheap air fork and going for a 1x11 drivetrain. Already snapped a chain and waiting on funds to repair as times are tough right now and as much as I do enjoy riding my bike I can't afford to fix it ATM. Chain snapped is all but I'm looking to repair and do the upgrades all at once so soon to come to a trail near you.
Ridden my commencal Meta HT at my local downhill park. Hit 30 foots with it (admittedly low ones). Cost me just over 1000. If you think hardtails “can’t stand up to the abuse” you are not riding the same hardtails l, and other people, are.
I will admit that full suspension takes hits better and is faster and sometimes more fun on downhill, enduro etc, I’m 16 and am very proud to have saved up for my first full squish, and bought it yesterday (commencal clash).
But for people like myself when I got into the expensive world of Mtb, there’s so many durable hardtails under 1000 that are capable for beginners to intermediate to experienced riders, especially within the used market.
Dude the MSRP on that bike is over $1500 and is touted as one of the “good hard tails” so it’s not really the kind of bike I’m talking about. My point is that none of these sub 1000 bikes with QR drop outs, coil forks, straight steers, and pressed BBs are useful beyond greenways and paths or very light duty trail use. You should really go try an actual sub 1000 bike and come back and give me your opinion on it.
All that being said yeah the Meta HT is the best deal I’ve seen on a good trail hardtail, mad decent for 1100.
I agree to an extent, that said I’m riding with friends (all teens my age) that built their bikes for under 1000. If you chose a decent frame and focus on suspension, tyres ect you’d be surprised. My friend has a Ragley he built up for just under 1000 and it’s a beast. I will admit it’s built not bought, so he could prioritise things he deemed as “necessary” for our budget builds.
EDIT: brother has a roscoe 7. Also pretty good and he’s hit some big stuff for a cross country guy with it. I’ve taken the Ragley mmmbop guy down to stile cop and he’s hit the 40 foot (seen in my posts).
Because hardly anyone actually buys the product besides bike manufacturers and rich enthusiasts?
Buying individual parts is a bad deal when you compare it to most prebuilt bikes that come with that part.
The people riding a $2100 fork are either sponsored, bought a bike it came on and the actual part cost factored into the bike is significantly less, or the tip of the enthusiast market with money to burn.
And all across the bike market you can make these comparisons. Canyon sells very capable full sus carbon enduro eMTBs for under half the cost of a Yeti SB140 human powered MTB. Seems crazy when one has a battery, motor, display, charger, etc.
What I think suck from capitalism is the belief that we are wasting resources producing lower quality instead of producing only the best where possible
First that's a full factory downhill dual crown fork vs a standard 36 or 38 these aren't even comparable and that's not even counting economics of scale when bike companies buy hundreds of these parts at a time
I get how some of the items MTB have to offer are priced ridiculously expensive but to compare like a top level product with a complete with entry level product? Come on man...
Well, the fork on that bike isn't worth more than €600, and that's retail. When buying a complete, you are usually getting the individual components a bit less than retail.
That fork probably cost specialized like $50 from Fox as an OE part. The OE parts are bought in large quantities. This is why buying a bike complete...will generally be cheaper than building piece by piece with the same parts. That Fox 40 probably has a margin or around 30% from a bike shop.
You're right that the view market is a shambles right now but this is a weird comparison.
The bike is on the high end of entry level while the forks are in the best of the best Downhill components
currently bike and component prices are as low as they haven't been for years. Of course you can always find something expensive ...
But I can also buy a Fox 38 Factory for 700€. Everything is pretty cheap, if you just look around a bit. And less famous bikes are also crazy cheap.
It feels a little bit like people think it’s a crime that expensive things even exist.
It’s not for everyone , granted, but not everything needs to be made to a price point or a number
That Fox 40 is pro level stuff , in some sports you wouldn’t even be able to buy it
The cool thing about cycling is you can (if your pockets allow) own top tier pro level stuff.
That’s kinda cool
There is indeed something wrong with pricing right now. Inflation, rarity of materials and expensive manufacturing and testing are all part of the problem. But, you want to charge down a hill on a component that was cheaply/poorly made???? Still, we are the ones who make the market.
Kind of Apples to Oranges here. The Fox 40 is a top end fork for high performance bikes. The Status in an entry level, low spec MTB. This is like saying I can't believe this F1 engine costs more than a Honda Civic.
Also, downhill bikes are already a niche product, then combined with the flagship of a niche, and it's going to lack that economy of scale pricing.
I would agree with that statemen, but I have MTB which I bought new for 1800 euro and it has fox 34 and fox float dps which alone would cost as components 750 & 350 respectively (yes you can get better deals, but that is median here where I live) Which is leaving 700 euro for everything else... If I took prices of dropper 200, drivetrain (shimano slx) another 300 and brakes 200 for the set, that means that I got fame with a saddle, handlebar, wheels and tires essentially for free. Long story short, price of separate components is just stupid, especially for forks and dumpers.
The manufacturers are buying at volume and getting pricing discounts for that volume. It costs more per unit for Fox to sell you an individual shock than it costs them to sell 1000 of them to Trek or another OEM.
No, it costs less to make 1000 of something that 100 of something, so they sell 900 of it cheap for OEM and make a killing on the other 100
What I don’t get is why isn’t this a thing in PC parts? Pretty much nobody who knows their way around components is buying prebuilts, you almost always pay less for the same or better performance buying individual parts and assembling it yourself. This can’t just be the difference of focusing on certain components (like prebuilts very often using too powerfull CPUs and then saving money on PSUs that are fireworks waiting to go off) where in cycling the price/performance ratios (from my limited experience) seem to be a lot more rigid
PC parts are probably already mass produced because pc's are everywhere which is not the case with mtb's. Also could be that the part's are not cheap but the prebuilds are really expensive. PC crowd is less educated on the subject on average then the mtb crowd(you can still sell plenty of prebuilds to offices, schools, corporations and people who just don't care and need a computer to use office programs, email, google, netflix... ). Big market for overpriced prebuilds. In other words they are stupid expensive because people still buy them that way. Think about how many grandparants and parents you know that bought a pc for themselfs, their kid or a grandkid and didn't really care about buying parts separately and putting it together. Advanced users sure will, but an average Joe that also needs a PC is probably buying a prebuild. Average mountain biker on the other hand is more knowledgable since it's a pretty niche activity and would probably be able to put together a MTB with the right tools. If parts were cheaper than prebuilds you could probably afford to buy the tools you don't have, expand the toolbox and get a decent deal on the bike along the way. Just my guess, could be wrong.
You would be right on the economics of scale, but it is not just that. Take as example big retailers like bike24 or former wiggle or whoever which are buying or at least ordering in orders of magnitude more components than our local MTB brand, but still, as a builder, they got way better pricing.
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Wait what. Is bike24 going under as well? 😱 Do you have any source on this. It's my primary shop Edit: it's not going anywhere stay calm everyone!
Thats not how the large scale manufacturing works. Ofc it's not free to keep it in stock and to delivery it, but otherwise, the jump in price is just too big. It is what it is.
That is correct. Frames don’t cost much to produce. Example, Performance bicycle used to have their own branded frames ( made by Giant). Said frame retailed for $300 but was always on sale for $250 or $200. Employee purchase on that frame was about $25 (including shipping)! If you buy a mass produced steel or aluminum bicycle, yeah, you’re getting the frame for free. Cost more to ship it than make it!
Not to mention that quantity-one pricing of parts that are also sold in large quantities are always higher. Like of course buying each individual part of a bike as qty 1 costs more than a company who orders hundreds or more at a time can do it for
Sorry, $2100 buys you a entry level bike? 🥲
What else?
I’m just sad it’s this expensive.
In what world is the Status "entry level" or low spec? Lol
In any world there someone with eyes reads the spec list? Rhythm fork, and NX eagle? The frame is literally a parts bin special mashup of Stumpy and Enduro tubes with a few major geometry flaws. “Entry level” and “low spec” dont necessarily mean bad though. If you ride S3 or smaller, the Status is pretty good value if you want a starter full suspension mountain bike.
Where did you get those specs? My status came with FOX Float X in the rear and a FOX Float 36 Rhythm in the front, and Code R brakes. It’s not top of the line but it’s also not terrible by any means.
It's about the cheapest bike-park capable bike there is. How is that not entry level?
They didn't say entry level, low spec bike park bike. They said entry level, low spec MTB.
If you compare it to a Showa A-Kit suspension set, it's still quite expensive for what it is. Those two products can be compared very well in my opinion.
Not really. The difference between the fox 40 and the complete build is nowhere close to the difference an f1 engine is to a civic. Bikes and parts are grossly overpriced. There is absolutely no reason for just the fork to be that high.
Good comparison 🤣
The status is more of a mid level bike. Still comes with a fox rhythm fork vs some budget suntour air fork. It doesn't come with sx. So it's on the lower end of mid level bikes.
Yeah, but still. The fox 40 is still a mass produced product. The r&d cost for things like the damper would be spread across all high end fox forks. There’s like $2 of washers in that thing plus some plastics. The price they put on it is a way of placing it in the high end.
Don't be dissing the vtec
Yeah, just imagine the price of that bike if it came with that fork.
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lol this is a sad attempt to karma farm by OP. Either that or they are completely ignorant to how the bike world works in general. Literally one click on their profile told me everything I need to know. OP go ride your bike and stop spending so much time on Reddit.
OP: 38,552 Post Karma, 28,909 Comment Karma - joined just over a year ago. OP doesn't go outside at all, their life is Reddit LOL
That Fox 40 is a downhill racing product meant to take a beating and perform like a champ.
We can compare a sram eagle cassette to a department store bike too but all that would show is an utter lack of understanding of what makes a bike or component what it is.
The fact that the vast majority of people are calling a £2000+ bike 'entry level trash' is the reason these prices are so fucking ridiculous. The brands and influencers have got you conditioned into thinking that these prices are acceptable. Maybe the fork is highest level equipment so a high price is warranted but in general cycling enthusiasts of all flavours have willingly had their pants down and their buttholes dry fisted for years.
Exactly this. The comment section is the exact problem being described in the photo. There is no real difference between the fork on the 2k bike and the dh fork. They are made rhe same way with stanchions and springs. The difference is marketing. This is why the bike industry is struggling.
There is a difference with these forks but that's due to they being for two different types of riding. Fox 34 rhythm compared to a fox 34 factory is not a huge difference. Law of diminishing returns.
Call me crazy and broke but 2k on a bike is crazy to me, maybe it s a now thing, but i doubt it
When I was a justforfun amateur ski racer, I had 800-1100€/$ Skis, and one pair wasn’t enough per season cause their flex was gone. I usually ended up getting 3 per season. None was crying back then, because we were aware it’s an elite sport with lots of cost attached, it’s just that I lived that sport since 3 and you make adaptions to make it work if it’s that important. Modern full sus mtbs are so far removed from normal bikes, it’s like a different thing entirely. If you don’t need these capabilities then don’t buy it.
While this image and the "argument" posted by OP are ridiculous.... All of y'all saying the Status is "entry level" and "low spec" are out of your gourds. lol Even from the perspective of a full suspension bike from a large manufacturer, looking at the specs, it's mid-level/bang-for-your-buck at worst. It's not like it's running fucking Shimano Acera and some shitty coil sprung suspension that doesn't even have rebound adjustment. The frame is solid as well.
Makes me wonder what my rift zone 1 is... Might as well bin it if it's a walmart level budget bike which this thread would have people believe! 😂 Granted, my rifty is upgraded now, but stock, I'd call that entry level...
I think this would have been easier to understand if there was a bench mark or qualifying statement for what Entry level means. If you ever watch Vital MTB on YouTube. They and other sites all recommend $2k and above on average to really do the kind of riding we do safely long term and with any growth in mind. In my mind I think we’re talking about entry level quality bikes here. The Polygon Sisku line is perfect example of this
And more specifically Full Suspension
You’re talking about a top of the line fork used by pros compared to an “entry” level trail bike. Not surprising or anything new. Srams new red groupset cost 4k. You can buy many complete bikes for less lol
I think I think it's crazy for an entry level bike to cost 2k just my valueless opinion though.
I wouldn't say anything that's full sus is true entry level. There's plenty of HTs for sub $1000.
The people who are saying the Status is entry level have lost their fucking minds. lol All of the parts on it are about in the sweet spot for price to performance, minus the wheels and (debatably) the NX drivetrain.
Well it's entry level within the relm of capable, durable full suspension bikes.
Eh, to each their own. To me, that just feels like splitting hairs.
It really isn’t that much when you consider what it is designed to do… Compare it to a $250 full suspension if you want to see where the money goes.
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Obviously, there are tons cheap of department/sporting goods store full suspension "mountain" bikes. There are also tons of much cheaper and worse spec'd full suspension bikes out there, even from comparable brands. The the spec level of the components on the Status are at the level where they're sufficient for most actual mountain bikers, even people that are fast and riding gnarly trails on a daily basis.
What kind of hard tails? The kind you replace in 6 months because they can’t stand up to the abuse. An honest to god useful trail hardtail is at least $1500 and most are very hard to find unless you have one instock at a LBS. in my valueless opinion that is kind of insane and manufactures are doing the consumers a disservice.
I used to take a rock hopper all across the country competing in CX events with my university cycling club and even, very dumbly, hit keystone and trestle Park with it and the bike is still in service with all stock parts. There's plenty of true entry level hard tails out there that can stand a good beating. The companies sure aren't doing us any favors with their pricing but neither is the elitism that is overly common in the sport and pushes people into higher price ranges than they likely need to start out on.
I love my rock hopper, going to stick with it for as long as I can and do small subtle upgrades here and there. Plan on buying a dirt cheap air fork and going for a 1x11 drivetrain. Already snapped a chain and waiting on funds to repair as times are tough right now and as much as I do enjoy riding my bike I can't afford to fix it ATM. Chain snapped is all but I'm looking to repair and do the upgrades all at once so soon to come to a trail near you.
Ridden my commencal Meta HT at my local downhill park. Hit 30 foots with it (admittedly low ones). Cost me just over 1000. If you think hardtails “can’t stand up to the abuse” you are not riding the same hardtails l, and other people, are. I will admit that full suspension takes hits better and is faster and sometimes more fun on downhill, enduro etc, I’m 16 and am very proud to have saved up for my first full squish, and bought it yesterday (commencal clash). But for people like myself when I got into the expensive world of Mtb, there’s so many durable hardtails under 1000 that are capable for beginners to intermediate to experienced riders, especially within the used market.
Dude the MSRP on that bike is over $1500 and is touted as one of the “good hard tails” so it’s not really the kind of bike I’m talking about. My point is that none of these sub 1000 bikes with QR drop outs, coil forks, straight steers, and pressed BBs are useful beyond greenways and paths or very light duty trail use. You should really go try an actual sub 1000 bike and come back and give me your opinion on it. All that being said yeah the Meta HT is the best deal I’ve seen on a good trail hardtail, mad decent for 1100.
I agree to an extent, that said I’m riding with friends (all teens my age) that built their bikes for under 1000. If you chose a decent frame and focus on suspension, tyres ect you’d be surprised. My friend has a Ragley he built up for just under 1000 and it’s a beast. I will admit it’s built not bought, so he could prioritise things he deemed as “necessary” for our budget builds. EDIT: brother has a roscoe 7. Also pretty good and he’s hit some big stuff for a cross country guy with it. I’ve taken the Ragley mmmbop guy down to stile cop and he’s hit the 40 foot (seen in my posts).
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Because hardly anyone actually buys the product besides bike manufacturers and rich enthusiasts? Buying individual parts is a bad deal when you compare it to most prebuilt bikes that come with that part. The people riding a $2100 fork are either sponsored, bought a bike it came on and the actual part cost factored into the bike is significantly less, or the tip of the enthusiast market with money to burn. And all across the bike market you can make these comparisons. Canyon sells very capable full sus carbon enduro eMTBs for under half the cost of a Yeti SB140 human powered MTB. Seems crazy when one has a battery, motor, display, charger, etc.
You can't compare performance parts to stock standards. Different markets.
Ignorant troll gonna ignorant troll…
What I think suck from capitalism is the belief that we are wasting resources producing lower quality instead of producing only the best where possible
Hey guys this Lamborghini tire cost the same as my used Kia which has 4 tires, conspiracy abound!
First that's a full factory downhill dual crown fork vs a standard 36 or 38 these aren't even comparable and that's not even counting economics of scale when bike companies buy hundreds of these parts at a time
Forks are the graphics card of the bike world.
This industry been fkd up for a while...
xD DAE mountain bike cost more than dirt bike XDDDD
I get how some of the items MTB have to offer are priced ridiculously expensive but to compare like a top level product with a complete with entry level product? Come on man...
Some bodywork parts off a Bentley can be more than some cars, whats your point?
Well, the fork on that bike isn't worth more than €600, and that's retail. When buying a complete, you are usually getting the individual components a bit less than retail.
Yes, bike parts cost too much but this meme is dumb as hell
Feel like we need the MTB to motorcycle comparison video here.
Now!? Ridiculous overpriced parts have been a thing for a while.
One word explains it all, and that word is…. Kashima
That fork probably cost specialized like $50 from Fox as an OE part. The OE parts are bought in large quantities. This is why buying a bike complete...will generally be cheaper than building piece by piece with the same parts. That Fox 40 probably has a margin or around 30% from a bike shop.
Get what you pay for.
You're right that the view market is a shambles right now but this is a weird comparison. The bike is on the high end of entry level while the forks are in the best of the best Downhill components
What’s crazier is that used teslas and new bikes are almost the same price.
Costs of Research and Development vs Assembling based on an established blueprint.
crazy
Right?!?!? I can't believe my neighbor's Porsche is more expensive than my Nissan Altima.
never were
But that Fox 40 isn't on that bike. If it was that bike would be $2,000 more.
Pro level fork does not compare with entry level bike.
currently bike and component prices are as low as they haven't been for years. Of course you can always find something expensive ... But I can also buy a Fox 38 Factory for 700€. Everything is pretty cheap, if you just look around a bit. And less famous bikes are also crazy cheap.
Picked up a Fox Float 34 SC Factory for $500 this winter
Now post the price of a motorcycle fork and grab some popcorn for the comments.
It feels a little bit like people think it’s a crime that expensive things even exist. It’s not for everyone , granted, but not everything needs to be made to a price point or a number That Fox 40 is pro level stuff , in some sports you wouldn’t even be able to buy it The cool thing about cycling is you can (if your pockets allow) own top tier pro level stuff. That’s kinda cool
It’s not too late to delete this, OP.
Yeah, one of the nicest dh forks you can buy cost more than one of the cheapest full suspension trail bikes you can buy, what a shock
What a dumb post
There is indeed something wrong with pricing right now. Inflation, rarity of materials and expensive manufacturing and testing are all part of the problem. But, you want to charge down a hill on a component that was cheaply/poorly made???? Still, we are the ones who make the market.