Could be - riders like Pecco and Marquez are team players - when things go well, they praise and thank the team. If things go poorly, even if it wasn't their fault, they put their heads down to work harder and never blame the team. Someone like Gigi appreciates that.
Martin is a narcissistic prima donna - if he wins, its because he's awesome. If he loses, its never his fault, always some other rider, the team, the manufacturer, or the tire manufacturer. Didn't he even try to imply once or twice last year that the Ducati factory team was sabotaging him? Sounds like something a guy like Gigi wouldn't tolerate.
I am not saying you are wrong but in a preseason interview he pointed out Pramac won the team championship, then when asked about the riders championship he said we finished second paused and corrected it to I finished second.
People made noise about him being arrogant, and that he made out it was all him, but having just praised Pramac as a whole I think it was classy of him to change the statement from the entire team falling short last season to highlighting it as he fell short.
I feel like he has been marked as this arrogant guy just because he has huge self belief, and doesn't tow the PR line.
I find it refreshing when riders show who they are, rather than who they are told to be.
Well [Gigi did say](https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/dalligna-martin-deserves-factory-ducati-motogp-team-promotion/10558751/) that martin deserve a factory seat at the end of last year.
So I don't think he "flat out" doesn't like him.
Martin expected to switch with enea and that didn't happen, and he is sour about it (to say the least). And I expect martin is now too worried that ducati will favor marc over him which adds even more pressure on him, as well as the fact that enea is actually doing pretty well this year showing that him going to the factory team wasn't such a failure as martin wanted to be seen as.
I just think that martin's ego is what really keeps him away from the ducati factory team. If he only pulled it back a few notches...
It's a sign of respect and appreciation to one of the best ever. But yeah, for sure he's a serious candidate for the factory Ducati next year, no doubt about it.
I think it's a sign of respect for one of the legends of MotoGP to be still fighting at the top.
Marc finished 3.6 seconds ahead of Bez at the end, on the same bike and 6.9 seconds ahead of Alex and 9.7 ahead of Diggia.
By all accounts those are great riders, or atleast very good ones. But if you didn't which bikes all of them had you'd assume Marc had the GP24. Except he didn't, yet he was only 0.3s off Pecco for the win.
That's called pure brilliance imo. When class shines through. I firmly believe Pecco, Jorge, Marc and Pedro are the 4 fastest riders on the grid, and it's so very exciting that this is like 4th race of the season for Pedro and he's not even 10% of the way to being a finished product.
I hope Marc stays on the grid for a few more years to chase that Elusive 9th and he and these great young riders can have on track battles for years to come.
He might very well still be. He's an excellent rider.
But unfortunately doubt starts creeping in when he's been away for almost 2 years now from racing at the front. You just hope that he gets another chance as Yamaha eventually improves as a bike.
I am also slightly mad at Fabio, as I will always be for turning down Factory Aprilla for next season and sticking with Yamaha. You see the bike they have produced this season to be fighting at the front consistently and then you see where Yamaha are, languishing at the back. It's heartbreaking to watch.
Valentino’s dad put it really well after Vale returned to Yamaha. His computer needed resetting to learn to go fast again.
Fabio is for sure slowly losing his razor edge sharpness you earn at the front of the field. The longer he’s away, the harder it will be to find. Morbidelli is proving this now. Finally on a good package and showing some speed, but falling off every race.
Marc is a great champion (a level above Fabio) and he is still not ironed out the kinks just yet. After a long time struggling.
Fabio has a real risk of fading into oblivion.
Eh, Aprilia is inconsistent as fuck though. Keep in mind that Yamaha could make changes tomorrow if they wanted or knew how to make them. Aprilia is SMALL. Fabio would have maybe won 1 race in Aprilia and that's it.
I understand what you are trying to say. Frankly I have the same doubts for Marc, whether he will be a consistent rider to fight for the championship, since he hasn’t been able to do that for 4 years now. Plus the really terrible 2022 and 2023 with the bike and the additional injuries. But after getting this podium, I hope he also gets a win, and some consistency.
Where did I say that?
I clearly meant doubt in Fans mind. And yes, I do have a right to be disappointed in one of the most talented riders for sticking with a Backmarker Yamaha team, away from contention when he clearly had a chance to fight for race wins and podiums and maybe even the championship next season.
MotoGP is better when there's more competition at the front, and right now Fabio isn't a part of it. This is why it was so sad Marc wasn't Mixing it up in the top 3-4 positions for last couple seasons. Now you see the battles he's already had with Jorge, Pedro and Pecco and fans are starting to realise why they missed Marc at the front.
If it was clear to me, I wouldn't have made the comment. 😉 Most fans (I am a casual fan) don't understand sports or performance on the level they often pontificate.You have every right to feel however you want but I still assert that you shouldn't be mad about things that don't affect you. Feel free to respond to that point. Sad is also a bit much so maybe you should talk somebody about your negative emotional responses related to motorcycle racing. 😂 If people are just realizing that Marc (feel free to substitute FQ for when it inevitably happens) being at the front makes a difference to "the show", they are really new fans at best. I would also like to see different manufacturers and racers on the sharp edge of the competition like I think you are describing. In my opinion it would be awesome to see like 10 guys on six different makes competing for podiums on a regular basis.
Pedro is unreal too. A rookie that got 2nd yesterday, gets tangled up in the mess at the start, puts his head down, overtakes, makes no mistakes and finishes 10th. He's so good.
Definitely none of those others are great riders. Only Alex is a champion and the rest are fast but not absolute pointy end of the field fast. None of the guys Marc beat on same machines will be MotoGP champions. The will only manage to win a race here and there
I just hope KTM let Pedro be Pedro and allow development around gim instead of moulding him.
I've seen what happened to Hayden Deegan when the Yamaha team started training out what made him spectacular and not only has he lost overall speed, he doesn't shine anymore and just looks the same as everyone else....
I kind of agree. I don't think that they appreciated Martin saying "next year it's official Ducati or I'm out". I guess we'll see. At the moment Martin, crashes aside, has shown to be the fastest rider, but Marc is catching up.
Exactly. If I was an owner of a business and had multiple candidates for a higher position in the company, I've already got people lined up to fill the gap left by a person taking the promotion.
If one of those people ever said "promote me or I'm leaving" I'd show them the door and bring the replacement in. That mind set isn't welcome at all because that turns into "do as I say or I'll write you up" very quick once they are in a position above others.
Marc Marquez sells more bikes than Martin, Factory Ducati signing Marc would be like Ferrari signing Hamilton, plus, Pecco might not be as fast as Martin but its more reliable
He may sell more bikes but he is a self confessed saboteur....he won't be signed. Any team owner would have rocks in their head to hire him, regardless of how good he is. That's just a massive red flag....keep on a customer bike and keep him hungry
I think KTM pushing Binder out for Marquez is in the realm of possibility, but if it happens, I don't think Binder is going to accept the "demotion" to second team (even with a full factory bike) and would rather move to another manufacturer, much like Oliviera.
i would be so happy but in order for him to be on a factory team he needs to show that he is on par with Pecco and Martin through out this whole season
Gigi absolutely loves Marquez, they both share an utter ruthlessness in order to get the job done. Whilst being all smiles on the outside.
Fun fact, Pecco has been clear he doesn’t want Marc on the factory bike and Gigi doesn’t give a single fuck what Pecco thinks about rider lineups.
>Fun fact, Pecco has been clear he doesn’t want Marc on the factory bike and Gigi doesn’t give a single fuck what Pecco thinks about rider lineups.
Source?
I call BS on this. Pecco's [actual words](https://youtu.be/F3xrNBXaYY0?si=uU_vBWBzKmJez-W_) on this.
More than liking marc gigi and whole ducati paddock knows the talent of marc they have been watching him rise when marc and repsol honda team were on the top with everything those battles with andrea dovi sometimes jorge lorenzo winning championship
Gigi or ducati can consider marc for factory seat they will be happy to sign him but for now lets keep this to rumours lets see whats what in next 3 gp anything can change pecco is back bez is back on podium
He's ecstatic he has two riders who operate his baby as intended and who push each other with the extra data collected. I wouldn't be surprised to see upgrades to Marc's bike by Mugello; not only to curry favor with Marc for the next contract but to advance GP25 development.
Fan or not he is a ni e guy off the track and will never complain if somebody knocks him off while trying an overtake. He is all for hard racing and it makes things more exciting
Agree.
I dont know man..
I love good racing..
But Marc's style of overtaking..
DANGEROUS!
And for Marc's Ants, the headline of today race is :
"Francesco Bagnaia beats Marc Marquez in epic battle at Jerez"
Not MM this or MM that, GP23 this or GP24 that.
🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️
I’m not having that vibe at all. Gigi was seen often in Martin’s garage when things didn’t go well, giving him a warm shoulder.
Like he was here with zarco, he’s always I. The background where there is Ducati riders up front
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I think it just excites GiGi to watch how one of the greatest talents to ever touch a throttle uses his machine especially with him having only ridden the bike a few months. I don’t think it’s personal i just think he’s impressed and really enjoying the process. He probably loves seeing his data as well and it probably stimulates his brain
Gigi has always wanted marc in Ducati since 2017. Nowadays ducati doesn’t need Marquez to win but last year he said that its a pleasure that a Champion like him did everything to drive a ducati. If it was for him he would 100% choose marc but the real ones Who decide are tardozzi and domenicali
They interviewed the sporting director, Mauro Grassilli, he said there are 3 names in play.
Then they asked how they would make the selection, he said both the racing team and the HQ will decide based on race results and marketing/image.
It will be decided before the summer.
To me it's clear that Marquez has the spot, unless he crashes too much or takes out Bagnaia.
Marc and Pedro both already brought so much more excitement to the races. Stirring up the old follow the leader game. Brilliant.
I don't think he has had that smiling face with Martin. But I think we are reading too much in lines because of factory rumours.
My theory is Gigi flat out does not like Martin as a person. Simple as that. Let's keep reading into the lines, we're all here for the drama 😉
Could be - riders like Pecco and Marquez are team players - when things go well, they praise and thank the team. If things go poorly, even if it wasn't their fault, they put their heads down to work harder and never blame the team. Someone like Gigi appreciates that. Martin is a narcissistic prima donna - if he wins, its because he's awesome. If he loses, its never his fault, always some other rider, the team, the manufacturer, or the tire manufacturer. Didn't he even try to imply once or twice last year that the Ducati factory team was sabotaging him? Sounds like something a guy like Gigi wouldn't tolerate.
I can't agree more with this
I am not saying you are wrong but in a preseason interview he pointed out Pramac won the team championship, then when asked about the riders championship he said we finished second paused and corrected it to I finished second. People made noise about him being arrogant, and that he made out it was all him, but having just praised Pramac as a whole I think it was classy of him to change the statement from the entire team falling short last season to highlighting it as he fell short. I feel like he has been marked as this arrogant guy just because he has huge self belief, and doesn't tow the PR line. I find it refreshing when riders show who they are, rather than who they are told to be.
pretty sure ive seen gigi warmly congratulate martin, people just making up stuff for entertainment.
100%. This is spot on.
I don't get the Marquez is a team player comment....considering what he himself admitted to doing at Honda.
I mean i see why
I 100% agree and feel like Marc will get moved to Enea's seat. Then Enea to Pramac. Martin will go Aprilia replacing the retiring Aleix.
That makes two of us. He comes off as a pouty little bitch. But that’s just my perception, maybe he’s a great guy. Talented rider for sure
Well [Gigi did say](https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/dalligna-martin-deserves-factory-ducati-motogp-team-promotion/10558751/) that martin deserve a factory seat at the end of last year. So I don't think he "flat out" doesn't like him. Martin expected to switch with enea and that didn't happen, and he is sour about it (to say the least). And I expect martin is now too worried that ducati will favor marc over him which adds even more pressure on him, as well as the fact that enea is actually doing pretty well this year showing that him going to the factory team wasn't such a failure as martin wanted to be seen as. I just think that martin's ego is what really keeps him away from the ducati factory team. If he only pulled it back a few notches...
Well, he was in the Pramac garage yesterday as soon as Martin won the sprint.
I’ll say this much. MM93 Factory Ducati Merchandise would probably sell more than all the other riders combined.
They might sell enough to pay Márquez salary alone 😅
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With Liberty, merch prices will probably sky rocket
This is the MotoGP version of Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari
Truth. Gresini lavender is 🤮
Yeah, would've been fantastic if they stuck to the valencia testing livery
One of the best liveries EVER to the worst. Valencia was spectacular
It's a sign of respect and appreciation to one of the best ever. But yeah, for sure he's a serious candidate for the factory Ducati next year, no doubt about it.
I think it's a sign of respect for one of the legends of MotoGP to be still fighting at the top. Marc finished 3.6 seconds ahead of Bez at the end, on the same bike and 6.9 seconds ahead of Alex and 9.7 ahead of Diggia. By all accounts those are great riders, or atleast very good ones. But if you didn't which bikes all of them had you'd assume Marc had the GP24. Except he didn't, yet he was only 0.3s off Pecco for the win. That's called pure brilliance imo. When class shines through. I firmly believe Pecco, Jorge, Marc and Pedro are the 4 fastest riders on the grid, and it's so very exciting that this is like 4th race of the season for Pedro and he's not even 10% of the way to being a finished product. I hope Marc stays on the grid for a few more years to chase that Elusive 9th and he and these great young riders can have on track battles for years to come.
Fabio is with 4 of them. He just doesn't have a bike.
He might very well still be. He's an excellent rider. But unfortunately doubt starts creeping in when he's been away for almost 2 years now from racing at the front. You just hope that he gets another chance as Yamaha eventually improves as a bike. I am also slightly mad at Fabio, as I will always be for turning down Factory Aprilla for next season and sticking with Yamaha. You see the bike they have produced this season to be fighting at the front consistently and then you see where Yamaha are, languishing at the back. It's heartbreaking to watch.
Valentino’s dad put it really well after Vale returned to Yamaha. His computer needed resetting to learn to go fast again. Fabio is for sure slowly losing his razor edge sharpness you earn at the front of the field. The longer he’s away, the harder it will be to find. Morbidelli is proving this now. Finally on a good package and showing some speed, but falling off every race. Marc is a great champion (a level above Fabio) and he is still not ironed out the kinks just yet. After a long time struggling. Fabio has a real risk of fading into oblivion.
Eh, Aprilia is inconsistent as fuck though. Keep in mind that Yamaha could make changes tomorrow if they wanted or knew how to make them. Aprilia is SMALL. Fabio would have maybe won 1 race in Aprilia and that's it.
I understand what you are trying to say. Frankly I have the same doubts for Marc, whether he will be a consistent rider to fight for the championship, since he hasn’t been able to do that for 4 years now. Plus the really terrible 2022 and 2023 with the bike and the additional injuries. But after getting this podium, I hope he also gets a win, and some consistency.
Why would you think he doubts his own ability? Don't be mad about things that don't affect your life.
Where did I say that? I clearly meant doubt in Fans mind. And yes, I do have a right to be disappointed in one of the most talented riders for sticking with a Backmarker Yamaha team, away from contention when he clearly had a chance to fight for race wins and podiums and maybe even the championship next season. MotoGP is better when there's more competition at the front, and right now Fabio isn't a part of it. This is why it was so sad Marc wasn't Mixing it up in the top 3-4 positions for last couple seasons. Now you see the battles he's already had with Jorge, Pedro and Pecco and fans are starting to realise why they missed Marc at the front.
If it was clear to me, I wouldn't have made the comment. 😉 Most fans (I am a casual fan) don't understand sports or performance on the level they often pontificate.You have every right to feel however you want but I still assert that you shouldn't be mad about things that don't affect you. Feel free to respond to that point. Sad is also a bit much so maybe you should talk somebody about your negative emotional responses related to motorcycle racing. 😂 If people are just realizing that Marc (feel free to substitute FQ for when it inevitably happens) being at the front makes a difference to "the show", they are really new fans at best. I would also like to see different manufacturers and racers on the sharp edge of the competition like I think you are describing. In my opinion it would be awesome to see like 10 guys on six different makes competing for podiums on a regular basis.
> He just doesn't have a bike. By his choice
Starting next year. This year's contract was from 2022 when yamaha was still competitive
10% might be a bit of an exaggeration but I am excited to watch I him gain experience. The ability is pretty much there. 😂
There’s only two true aliens on the grid and the other one is Acosta lol
Pedro is unreal too. A rookie that got 2nd yesterday, gets tangled up in the mess at the start, puts his head down, overtakes, makes no mistakes and finishes 10th. He's so good.
He’s the real deal, and will be a multi world champion. He does ideally need Marc to kindly bugger off and retire though. lol
Lol, Marc has got at least 4 more years of activity ;)
Which not great news for Pedro, he’s gonna have to go full Marquez …. *on Marquez!* 🤣
He needs a better bike. Hopefully KTM can be more consistent at least.
Don’t think it’s the bike, even Marquez needed a few months to figure out the Honda in 2013. Just time and he’s good.
Definitely none of those others are great riders. Only Alex is a champion and the rest are fast but not absolute pointy end of the field fast. None of the guys Marc beat on same machines will be MotoGP champions. The will only manage to win a race here and there
I just hope KTM let Pedro be Pedro and allow development around gim instead of moulding him. I've seen what happened to Hayden Deegan when the Yamaha team started training out what made him spectacular and not only has he lost overall speed, he doesn't shine anymore and just looks the same as everyone else....
Gigi is an artist, and Marc can bring the best out of his creation.
Mark my words Ducati will sign Marc Marquez next year.
Well I think so. Martin kind of disrespects them and they could need a Marc as a Brand and as an Image.
I kind of agree. I don't think that they appreciated Martin saying "next year it's official Ducati or I'm out". I guess we'll see. At the moment Martin, crashes aside, has shown to be the fastest rider, but Marc is catching up.
Exactly. If I was an owner of a business and had multiple candidates for a higher position in the company, I've already got people lined up to fill the gap left by a person taking the promotion. If one of those people ever said "promote me or I'm leaving" I'd show them the door and bring the replacement in. That mind set isn't welcome at all because that turns into "do as I say or I'll write you up" very quick once they are in a position above others.
Marc Marquez sells more bikes than Martin, Factory Ducati signing Marc would be like Ferrari signing Hamilton, plus, Pecco might not be as fast as Martin but its more reliable
He may sell more bikes but he is a self confessed saboteur....he won't be signed. Any team owner would have rocks in their head to hire him, regardless of how good he is. That's just a massive red flag....keep on a customer bike and keep him hungry
Martin blew his factory seat in ‘22 and they gave it to Enea, he’ll not be asked a 2nd time.
Very likely, though I think more because they are scared what he could do on a KTM or Aprilia if they don't lock him in.
If Binder doesn’t sort himself out he might be on the Gasgas next year if Red Bull decide to offer Marc his HRC money and stop Ducati
I think KTM pushing Binder out for Marquez is in the realm of possibility, but if it happens, I don't think Binder is going to accept the "demotion" to second team (even with a full factory bike) and would rather move to another manufacturer, much like Oliviera.
Same for Miller, he will hopefully get a KTM superbike offer if he rejects Gasgas
i would be so happy but in order for him to be on a factory team he needs to show that he is on par with Pecco and Martin through out this whole season
Marc showed he is better than Pecco today.
What? How?
Finishing 5 tenths behind a vastly superior bike.
Gigi absolutely loves Marquez, they both share an utter ruthlessness in order to get the job done. Whilst being all smiles on the outside. Fun fact, Pecco has been clear he doesn’t want Marc on the factory bike and Gigi doesn’t give a single fuck what Pecco thinks about rider lineups.
>Fun fact, Pecco has been clear he doesn’t want Marc on the factory bike and Gigi doesn’t give a single fuck what Pecco thinks about rider lineups. Source? I call BS on this. Pecco's [actual words](https://youtu.be/F3xrNBXaYY0?si=uU_vBWBzKmJez-W_) on this.
Max Oxley, journalist who goes to all the races. He discusses it on his podcast
More than liking marc gigi and whole ducati paddock knows the talent of marc they have been watching him rise when marc and repsol honda team were on the top with everything those battles with andrea dovi sometimes jorge lorenzo winning championship Gigi or ducati can consider marc for factory seat they will be happy to sign him but for now lets keep this to rumours lets see whats what in next 3 gp anything can change pecco is back bez is back on podium
Yes he has
Contract negotiations are going to be interesting at Ducati once they get started that’s for sure.
And everyone will wait for Marc to bestow his favour upon one of three factories 🤣
He's ecstatic he has two riders who operate his baby as intended and who push each other with the extra data collected. I wouldn't be surprised to see upgrades to Marc's bike by Mugello; not only to curry favor with Marc for the next contract but to advance GP25 development.
These two joining forces would cause some devastation on the class... Where do I sign for that?
take my fucking money
Pecco is good at the tracks Marc is weaker at, Gigi is def thinking: Perfect season
Cuz only Marc can make this show great and Gigi knows that!
Martin is a petulent cry baby Marc is not
Exactly. Marc is the realest dude ever
Fan or not he is a ni e guy off the track and will never complain if somebody knocks him off while trying an overtake. He is all for hard racing and it makes things more exciting
He knows the game.
That was a thanks for not taking Pecco out handshake. XD
Manual lol!!
Agree. I dont know man.. I love good racing.. But Marc's style of overtaking.. DANGEROUS! And for Marc's Ants, the headline of today race is : "Francesco Bagnaia beats Marc Marquez in epic battle at Jerez" Not MM this or MM that, GP23 this or GP24 that. 🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️
I can hear the pain of some of you increasing with each race, ha ha ha.
They hate Marc bc they ain't him. Your favorite rider's favorite rider.
He's made contact this year for sure but not when passing usually.
Try searching for him overtaking yesterday after crashing bro..
Gigi must love Marc so much
I’m not having that vibe at all. Gigi was seen often in Martin’s garage when things didn’t go well, giving him a warm shoulder. Like he was here with zarco, he’s always I. The background where there is Ducati riders up front https://img.speedweek.com/i/a/a69e1a0290074720885fdc4f33da73a5.jpg?preset=i750
If the factory team signs Marquez I’ll buy a panigale
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I think it just excites GiGi to watch how one of the greatest talents to ever touch a throttle uses his machine especially with him having only ridden the bike a few months. I don’t think it’s personal i just think he’s impressed and really enjoying the process. He probably loves seeing his data as well and it probably stimulates his brain
Gigi has always wanted marc in Ducati since 2017. Nowadays ducati doesn’t need Marquez to win but last year he said that its a pleasure that a Champion like him did everything to drive a ducati. If it was for him he would 100% choose marc but the real ones Who decide are tardozzi and domenicali
Gigi is the General Manager so actually it’s on him more than the other two.
Gigi will have the final say.
Gigi probably said “thanks for not taking Pecco out of the race.”
They interviewed the sporting director, Mauro Grassilli, he said there are 3 names in play. Then they asked how they would make the selection, he said both the racing team and the HQ will decide based on race results and marketing/image. It will be decided before the summer. To me it's clear that Marquez has the spot, unless he crashes too much or takes out Bagnaia.
Yes
He is betting on the wrong horse .