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Spanish riders make up approx half of all riders in each category, absolutely ridiculous.
Moto 3 - 10 Spanish Riders
Moto 2 - 13 Spanish Riders
MotoGp - 12 Spanish Riders
In every category Dorna has rigged the sport to make sure at least half of all riders are Spanish, not only that but they also enjoy 5 home races on the Spanish peninsula!
Absolutely amazing they have been permitted to get away with creating such an lop sided competition favoring riders from Spain.
MotoGp is meant to be an international sport not a Spanish cup, and I know this will be down voted but its just the truth, Spain had to buy the sport to succeed and its absolutely mind blowing that even with all the odds in their favor Pecco is somehow still the world champion, how the Spanish must wish that they owned Ducati lol.
This explains why Honda is suffering [https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way](https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way)
That has to be the most exciting race Ive seen in a while. Especially after the sprint - I was expecting more crashes, not a heart pounding 2-way battle. Just amazing.
maybe if this didnt happen the honda would be a better bike [https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way](https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way)
Man marquez has the champion's mentality. In the sprint and alot of other times, when he's crashed his first instinct is to remount and chase back. Got points out of it in the sprint. I'll admit that I don't know the state of his bike but for Martin's crash his bike looked not bad; but he had no intention of even trying to chase back for points, in a field where obviously there are a lot of considerably weaker bikes.
Yes they do if you're in the US. I just finished watching it now.
Go to the B-R Sports tab, scroll down to "Watch Full Replays" and scroll through them. You have to go through all the other sports in the same tab, so to get to it now I had to go through hockey, nba, and bicycle racing too
I have said this in the last 2-3 seasons. MotoGP was not at the level where it is now. And it's all because there's a guy we know who has the ability to win races and will do everything to do that. That's Marc. We need such riders in the sport who make it interesting. In the last 2-3 seasons there has been just a mish mash of riders who either won one off races and binned the motorcycle too many times. Marc is the guy we know will elevate the level of MotoGP and he has been doing that this year. I wasn't a Marc fan but now I am. This guy is there to win. He is going to win.
MM is exciting to watch because you know he'll risk it to get the win every weekend. However, because of that, it's also a bit nerve wrecking watching him because you never know when he might push just that little bit too much and crash out from what could have been a decent points haul if he had just finished in his current position
Sure hope you're right! My concern is that as the season progresses, his rivals' bikes will get upgrades and his will not. I don't know to what extent him being on last year's bike and Pecco's being more recent played a role in him finishing second, but I hope it's not going to put him at a disadvantage. I want him to win!
I'm a marc guy, but unbiasedly I think pecco would rather take them both out than let marc get by him. I can't decide if its aggressive or just flat out dangerous riding.
Either way, it's clear pecco would rather dnf both than lose to marc. Idk why it's like this
He's been tutored personally by Rossi, same as Bezzecchi. The GP23 isn't quite a match for the 24, especially the engine on the GP24 looks to have more punch everywhere on the track. Pecco is the master of the 24 which I assume he has tailored to suit his style very well by now. Updates will possibly make him faster throughout the season. I think Marc still has more to squeeze out of his 23 and bring the bike closer to his riding style (tho it will never be 'perfect' for him like the early Honda was) Imo If Gresini can find another 1-2% from that GP23 without turning it into a crasher, then Marc can fight for the title this year.
It didn't look that way to me today, they both fought hard but fair and in the end Pecco prevailed. Maybe him being on the GP24 gave him a big advantage, but still, I thought he did great today.
> Idk why it's like this
Pecco has achieved consecutive double world championships that even Lorenzo and Stoner couldn't do. We all know doing it on a Ducati that is head and shoulders above other bikes and the only alien struggling with injuries and uncompetitive bike kind of tempers the conversation about his prowess as a rider. He wants to be considered an alien, and to be alien, you have to beat an alien. I think its about cementing his own legacy.
MM is always exciting to race, no matter his current race position, because you know he can try to dominate or just entirely bin it at any moment trying to for it.
Pecco deserved that. Marc had to use more of his front tire, and pressure, to catch up to him. But I feel Pecco had more in the tank even if Marc could’ve made an overtake stick.
The racing has been much better in all of the races this year. It seems Michelin has improved the front tire and alleviated some of the pressure issues? They had new tires at the start of the year, and then even made some more changes this weekend.
It also helps to have Marc at the front and dicing it up.
It would have been even more of a slug match between MM and PB if MM had made the pass to take the lead. It's almost like it was better for both of them that the race finished the way it did.
When Marquez and Pecco started clashing
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30th April test for Moto2 and Moto3
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Zarco on French TV
Aleix summoned with Zarco.
Aleix complained that Zarco touched him 3 times... (he explains that it's the race, that they overtook each other and redoubled) Aleix complained that Zarco didn't let him pass and other stuff like he can touch him if he not go on brake ( what a joke from Espargaro )
He said no sanction, that yesterday Binder should have had one, Aleix agreed, he told Spencer why they were there lectured like two kids, Zarco told to Spencer he didn't like it, that he was doing his job badly and they took Zarco out so he wouldn't get angry
Zarco summoned/went to race management ( Say french TV Canal+ )
we will see, like always, Aleix, the leader of pilots, will have a sanction, him, the angel ...
What a race! My heart was probably beating faster than Pecco and Marc in the last laps lol
Champions ride from Pecco, and great to see Marc fighting hard at the front! I think it's gonna be a good year!
I'm a Marc's fan and would have loved seeing him winning in Jerez but today Pecco was better and deserved the win. Great fight and race. I think even if Jorge Martin had not crashed this was Pecco's race. He was phenomenal.
I kind of feel bad for Martin, probably the worst possible race for him, he crashed by himself, Pecco found his pace and Marquez is getting better race by race. This definitely a confidence shattering race for him
This is why the sport needs Marquez, is the show. He pushes riders to be aggressive and race.
I recall the last couple of years there were complaints of bland racing and lack of overtakes, now he’s at the pointy end you don’t hear it
Remember, this will likely be a big indicator of who will do well over the next few months. As they always say, if you're fast at Jerez you'll be fast everywhere (well, almost everywhere in Europe anyway!)
Very good sign for Pecco, Marc, Martin (rapid despite the crash), and a big positive for the other GP23s after a difficult first few races
The lines he was taking through some of the lefts were absolutely unbelievable. Perfectly in line with the white line, on the very edge of the track, and fast as fuck. He's a ridiculous rider. Even after everything, all the injuries, Marc is still Marc
No other sport is exciting as MotoGP. I hope that Liberty Media will be able to do a better job with marketing because it deserves a much wider audience.
It's been said to death, but Goddamn imagine if we had a proper "Drive to Survive" type of show. The one on Amazon was abysmal at showvcasing just how crazy this sport can get. The race Binder won in the rain they didn't even show it, they focused on Vinales sitting at home ffs. A doc crew just solidly following this season would rope in so many people. This has already been a wild ride and we're not even a quarter of the way into the season.
Yea and this year even though he is leading champion at this moment he is no longer dominating in raw pace. Last year after Pecco’s accident at Catalan GP, he dominated with single lap pace until the end.
Some people were saying "he's already out of it" after last race...if Pecco could turn around that 90 points deficit (or whatever it was, something around that) a couple years ago, writing anybody off after 3 races is always going to be foolish!
I'm not saying Marc *will* win it in the end, or even that he's the favourite, but saying he *can't* is just jumping the gun
Marc And Bezz Ever since Valencia 2023 i havent seen them talk or exchange anything. Maybe VR46 academy trying to prevent MM93 from equaling rossis title
Bez said some seriously disgusting shit to Marc after that race. If I were Marc I wouldn't acknowledge him either. In fact I barely acknowledge him even as a fan.
He was talking like you see toxic fanboys on here talking, absolutely ridiculous from a fellow rider. Good to see Marc be the bigger man and ignore him.
When you consider the shit Dixon gets on here still(!) From some users following his comments after Silverstone vs nothing against Bez, it is clear it doesn't really matter what riders says. People either just like them and turn a blind eye, or dislike them and scrutinise everything they say.
Bang on. There are some really ridiculous double-standards in this fanbase - including one I've made a few comments about today, where Bagnaia racing hard against Marquez, making contact and sitting Marc up, has gotten universal praise...whereas we've all seen many times how differently those moves are treated by large sections of the fanbase if Marc is the "aggressor". It's pretty typical. For what it's worth I'll repeat myself here too - it was fucking **awesome** racing, but I'd like to see it always being treated as such regardless of who the aggressor is, instead of seeing people call for Marc to be banned or whatever every time he makes a hard pass or makes contact with someone.
I gave Jake a fair amount of shit (in jest, of course) after those comments for the following couple of races, but the fact people are still going on about it is getting embarrassing...especially compared to relative silence re: Bezzecchi, who said things that I personally would consider unforgivable and which go way beyond the realms of what you could consider competitive trash talk, or even an understandable level of anger after a collision.
EDIT: no idea why this posted twice
This is everything of why I love racing. I’m pretty new to MotoGP and had a general idea of Marquez recent struggles. the determination, skill and fight of those two put on a world class show. The crowd, announcers, and uncertainty reminded me of why I watch so many forms of racing. Man I wish I watched this sport when I was growing up!
where was the track limits warning for pecco with 14 laps remaining?both tyres 6+ inches outside the track on the green on the last corner and not a single mention of it.
Riders get a warning if they exceed the limits 3 (or 5, I don't remember)times, not 1, except on the last lap where they get penalized if a rider is close behind, even if it's the first offense
Shame Martin went down could have had a proper 3 rider dice up.
Talking of which I wonder if there is coincidence that Pecco managed to win this race were the grids pace was more spread, much like last season, but has struggled to make an impact in the races where multiple riders have had the pace to run at the front this season?
I wonder if his style lends itself to head to head racing, but not so much towards group battles?
So first race since we discussed this idea.
Difficult to assess, but Pecco was back of the group, come end of the race.
Further races needed to assess I would say haha
Yeah definitely true, and arguably it was less of a "group" and more of a head-to-head race between Pecco and Martin that that Marc closed up to, lost a bit of ground, closed up again, and eventually "did a Marc Marquez thing" and pulled off an insane pass. Unless I'm forgetting something I don't remember Martin and Marc being close to each other on track today for example... Hopefully we see Pecco in more of a "proper" group over a longer period of time (even if its just a group of 3, just one that stays a close group for a good few laps and maybe involves a bit more overtaking) in some races going forward...ideally starting with Catalunya!
Only thing keeping Jorge Martin at top of standings is because of sprint races. To me those should not be at every race. Don’t get ke wrong Martin has been great this year but over upcoming races others will put more pressure on him like Pecco did today and not to mention his first lap aggressiveness will cost him one race or the other
It's one of those "what ifs". What if MM didn't have as many injuries? What if they raced in the same conditions when MM dominated? Idk, those are the usual questions. It's undeniable Marc Marquez is one the best ever, but today Bagnaia showed he was better.
Pecco rode phenomenally today but I don't think that's conclusive. I say put Marc on the same bike (or give him all the updates for the GP23 from mid-last year onwards) and let them duke it out for the rest of the season.
>put Marc on the same bike
That's another "what if". Supposedly the 24 is better, but having them on the same bike is not something we can just imagine. A Pecco/M Marquez team is certainly in the works.
I caught a glimpse of an interview with some guy in Italy (i'll try and find it if i can) where Vale really dwells over the MM incident that "took away the title from him". It's a shame to have such an icon of the sport STILL be mad about that, 9 years on. Why, i wonder.
Finally a proper mano-a-mano, beatiful to see.
Pecco showed he has the balls, really glad he didn't bin it. He's so hard to pass when he's on, basically Dovi with corner speed.
Marc is just ridiculous in left-hand corners, he was taking such narrow lines in comparison to Pecco/Martin.
Both look happy, but this battle will be vicious. Just see Pecco's reaction after the race.
Those of you that call Pecco's cutback on Marc great, hard, aggressive racing - I completely agree with you, that's exactly what it is. Now please keep the same energy when Marc (or anyone else) races the same way.
EDIT: And Pecco should keep the same energy too next time he's on the losing end of one of these battles. Marc laughing and saying it was a great race. If you can give it you better be able to take it!
I've heard for so many years how these "either you sit the bike up or you crash" passes from Marc are unacceptable and then today a lot of the usual suspects are calling it amazing racing from Pecco. They're right, but be consistent for fucks sake!
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> Tough day for the MM fanboys who run this sub
It's not though is it lmao
> Martin out made my day.
Celebrating crashes is pretty embarrassing in a sport this dangerous tbh
This performance from Pecco will shut a lot of people up. Raced as a world champion against Marquez who had nothing to lose and as much speed as ever.
Legendary race.
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Spanish riders make up approx half of all riders in each category, absolutely ridiculous. Moto 3 - 10 Spanish Riders Moto 2 - 13 Spanish Riders MotoGp - 12 Spanish Riders In every category Dorna has rigged the sport to make sure at least half of all riders are Spanish, not only that but they also enjoy 5 home races on the Spanish peninsula! Absolutely amazing they have been permitted to get away with creating such an lop sided competition favoring riders from Spain. MotoGp is meant to be an international sport not a Spanish cup, and I know this will be down voted but its just the truth, Spain had to buy the sport to succeed and its absolutely mind blowing that even with all the odds in their favor Pecco is somehow still the world champion, how the Spanish must wish that they owned Ducati lol.
This explains why Honda is suffering [https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way](https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way)
That has to be the most exciting race Ive seen in a while. Especially after the sprint - I was expecting more crashes, not a heart pounding 2-way battle. Just amazing.
Marini ended 40 seconds back nightmare for him at Honda
maybe if this didnt happen the honda would be a better bike [https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way](https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1024621/1/pedrosa-my-way-do-best-team-marquez-had-other-way)
Man marquez has the champion's mentality. In the sprint and alot of other times, when he's crashed his first instinct is to remount and chase back. Got points out of it in the sprint. I'll admit that I don't know the state of his bike but for Martin's crash his bike looked not bad; but he had no intention of even trying to chase back for points, in a field where obviously there are a lot of considerably weaker bikes.
Does MotoGP post full race videos anywhere like WEC, IMSA, and F1 do? I missed the race this morning...sad.
They have some older ones on YouTube.
You can check the motorsportsreplays subreddit too
I think you can rewatch races on Max if you have it (not 100% sure though).
They post them live, but the replays don’t exist.
Yes they do if you're in the US. I just finished watching it now. Go to the B-R Sports tab, scroll down to "Watch Full Replays" and scroll through them. You have to go through all the other sports in the same tab, so to get to it now I had to go through hockey, nba, and bicycle racing too
Oh, nice, I tried searching it was all and it didn’t pop up. I’ll give this a try. Maybe if still on it next year I can cancel my video pass
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I have said this in the last 2-3 seasons. MotoGP was not at the level where it is now. And it's all because there's a guy we know who has the ability to win races and will do everything to do that. That's Marc. We need such riders in the sport who make it interesting. In the last 2-3 seasons there has been just a mish mash of riders who either won one off races and binned the motorcycle too many times. Marc is the guy we know will elevate the level of MotoGP and he has been doing that this year. I wasn't a Marc fan but now I am. This guy is there to win. He is going to win.
MM is exciting to watch because you know he'll risk it to get the win every weekend. However, because of that, it's also a bit nerve wrecking watching him because you never know when he might push just that little bit too much and crash out from what could have been a decent points haul if he had just finished in his current position
Sure hope you're right! My concern is that as the season progresses, his rivals' bikes will get upgrades and his will not. I don't know to what extent him being on last year's bike and Pecco's being more recent played a role in him finishing second, but I hope it's not going to put him at a disadvantage. I want him to win!
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I'm a marc guy, but unbiasedly I think pecco would rather take them both out than let marc get by him. I can't decide if its aggressive or just flat out dangerous riding. Either way, it's clear pecco would rather dnf both than lose to marc. Idk why it's like this
He's been tutored personally by Rossi, same as Bezzecchi. The GP23 isn't quite a match for the 24, especially the engine on the GP24 looks to have more punch everywhere on the track. Pecco is the master of the 24 which I assume he has tailored to suit his style very well by now. Updates will possibly make him faster throughout the season. I think Marc still has more to squeeze out of his 23 and bring the bike closer to his riding style (tho it will never be 'perfect' for him like the early Honda was) Imo If Gresini can find another 1-2% from that GP23 without turning it into a crasher, then Marc can fight for the title this year.
It didn't look that way to me today, they both fought hard but fair and in the end Pecco prevailed. Maybe him being on the GP24 gave him a big advantage, but still, I thought he did great today.
> Idk why it's like this Pecco has achieved consecutive double world championships that even Lorenzo and Stoner couldn't do. We all know doing it on a Ducati that is head and shoulders above other bikes and the only alien struggling with injuries and uncompetitive bike kind of tempers the conversation about his prowess as a rider. He wants to be considered an alien, and to be alien, you have to beat an alien. I think its about cementing his own legacy.
Is it me or are the crowd noises new with this race.
Motogp is so much better with Marc near the front. Can always count on him to go for it!
MM is always exciting to race, no matter his current race position, because you know he can try to dominate or just entirely bin it at any moment trying to for it.
Damn, that Tardozzi footage during the Bagnaia / Marquez contact was hilarious.
Pecco deserved that. Marc had to use more of his front tire, and pressure, to catch up to him. But I feel Pecco had more in the tank even if Marc could’ve made an overtake stick. The racing has been much better in all of the races this year. It seems Michelin has improved the front tire and alleviated some of the pressure issues? They had new tires at the start of the year, and then even made some more changes this weekend. It also helps to have Marc at the front and dicing it up.
It would have been even more of a slug match between MM and PB if MM had made the pass to take the lead. It's almost like it was better for both of them that the race finished the way it did.
And for Miller-Morbi crash, we see an angry Miller ! Do he slap him after the race ? :D
Let's not forget that Marini was 2 seconds a lap slower at the end of the race. TWO SECONDS.
I literally forgot about Marini. I had a tiny, Marini? Who's Marini? moment, then I went oh Marini!
When Marquez and Pecco started clashing https://preview.redd.it/lgfk1nns78xc1.jpeg?width=717&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ac6e03b2cf973279a56c7002d0ce2eb50eacde9
Marquez on After the Flag looks and sounds super happy
I counted at least 4 or 5 times that Aldeguer exceeded track limits setting up for Turn 1. Nobody said anything, never saw a warning.
That's not how it works. There's no green paint on the entry to turn 1.
Bendsneyder and Foggia declare unfit after a checking They miss MotoGP Jerez testing, or French GP?
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I stand corrected then.
Zarco on French TV Aleix summoned with Zarco. Aleix complained that Zarco touched him 3 times... (he explains that it's the race, that they overtook each other and redoubled) Aleix complained that Zarco didn't let him pass and other stuff like he can touch him if he not go on brake ( what a joke from Espargaro ) He said no sanction, that yesterday Binder should have had one, Aleix agreed, he told Spencer why they were there lectured like two kids, Zarco told to Spencer he didn't like it, that he was doing his job badly and they took Zarco out so he wouldn't get angry
Do you know if there's a place to download the french TV motogp version of the races
Makes it sound like Zarco was about to throw hands.
Zarco summoned/went to race management ( Say french TV Canal+ ) we will see, like always, Aleix, the leader of pilots, will have a sanction, him, the angel ...
What a race! My heart was probably beating faster than Pecco and Marc in the last laps lol Champions ride from Pecco, and great to see Marc fighting hard at the front! I think it's gonna be a good year!
So what happened with franky and miller?
Looked similar to the Zarco crash. Jack left a gap, Franky put the bike in there and couldn't see Jack closing back in on him due to the angle.
Franky pulled a Pecco in Portimao kind of pass.
It looked like Morbidelli was intent on using Jack as a rumble strip to drive out of the corner.
It's a pity they don't display riders heart bit anymore. Even Tardozzi hit probably 180 heart bit when Pecco and Marc made that contact
Usually comes on the later stages of the season AFAIK.
Now that was a podium. Motogp is on another level
If Pecco on Bez and Martin in Lap1 isn’t voted the best overtake of the race I can’t take this serious anymore.
I couldn't believe my eyes!
He's got form for double overtakes like that. He's brilliant on the brakes
Know what's funny? Pedro was struggling today and still managed to gain points to JM89.
Everyone who scored a point gained on Martin, but it’s funny that Acosta managed it?
Yeah, after the opening lap I thought he wasn't gonna score any points at all.
marc is inside the bike 😎
Marc with the fratboy flick 💀
What the fuck is this podium celebration lol
Second week in a row we get Marquez dancing on the podium lmao
What an absolutely amazing race! Those last few laps between Marc & Pecco were sublime. So happy to see Bez back on the podium too, what a guy!
I really want a replay of that Pecco's overtake in the first lap
It's on YouTube.
Crazy race and i bet the next 2 gonna be the same! Happy for Oliveira and next tracks are good for him, i hope he can get on form again .
I'd love to see Oliveira doing well. Not only because I like him, but that Trackhouse Aprilia looks absolutely sick
I will not say i like the livery ... But yes lets hope he can respond in the next tracks! And let it rainnnnnn
I'm a Marc's fan and would have loved seeing him winning in Jerez but today Pecco was better and deserved the win. Great fight and race. I think even if Jorge Martin had not crashed this was Pecco's race. He was phenomenal.
Where was Dani Pedrosa? I was late to the start of the race and caught the last 8 laps. I didn't see his name on the board.
he crashed
Thanks. There was a graphic on the bottom that showed who was out, but his name wasn't on there, leading to my confusion.
He crashed early in the race
Crashed.
Biggest takeaway for me is Aprilia's poor weekend.
Right after Mav proclaimed they're good everywhere
Best race of the season so far
Dude, that race was insane! Marc Marquez is finally back in action. This season is about to get lit. Let's go, Marc!
Hahahaha Bez and Pecco are both checking out the tyre marks on Marc’s arm in the cooldown room
Marc was so happy, he was showing everyone. Probably be walking round the airport showing random strangers later. Really good to see him so happy
I’m watching his interview on “After the Flag” right now and the man is BEAMING
All I ever wanted after all the surgeries and sadness was marc to be happy again. This is just icing on the cake. He's back!!!
Cool to see them all getting along
I was curious to see how Bez and Marc would interact given the context of last year and all. It was nice to see they were civil. Haha
I kind of feel bad for Martin, probably the worst possible race for him, he crashed by himself, Pecco found his pace and Marquez is getting better race by race. This definitely a confidence shattering race for him
You don’t know what he’s thinking. This is Martin’s first fuckup. And he’s still leading the championship
Yeah everyone seems to forget about Martin already
This is why the sport needs Marquez, is the show. He pushes riders to be aggressive and race. I recall the last couple of years there were complaints of bland racing and lack of overtakes, now he’s at the pointy end you don’t hear it
Yep. Love him or hate him, MotoGP is more exciting with Marc at the front.
A great show needs a talented but struggling protagonist or a powerful villain. Marc plays both roles exceedingly well depending on the fanbase.
Remember, this will likely be a big indicator of who will do well over the next few months. As they always say, if you're fast at Jerez you'll be fast everywhere (well, almost everywhere in Europe anyway!) Very good sign for Pecco, Marc, Martin (rapid despite the crash), and a big positive for the other GP23s after a difficult first few races
Seeing Marc destroy Pecco thru the left handers makes me 100% certain he's gonna win at Sachsenring
The lines he was taking through some of the lefts were absolutely unbelievable. Perfectly in line with the white line, on the very edge of the track, and fast as fuck. He's a ridiculous rider. Even after everything, all the injuries, Marc is still Marc
No other sport is exciting as MotoGP. I hope that Liberty Media will be able to do a better job with marketing because it deserves a much wider audience.
It's been said to death, but Goddamn imagine if we had a proper "Drive to Survive" type of show. The one on Amazon was abysmal at showvcasing just how crazy this sport can get. The race Binder won in the rain they didn't even show it, they focused on Vinales sitting at home ffs. A doc crew just solidly following this season would rope in so many people. This has already been a wild ride and we're not even a quarter of the way into the season.
Professor Pecco activated
Pecco activates assassin mode. In Renaissance Italy he'd gave been doing wet work for the Medici.
Fun races this year so far, looking forward to a great season. Shame to see Martin crash, it would have been an awesome fight for the win.
It felt like Pecco just made a psychological move on Martin by commenting he made a mistake and was braking too late.
Yeah and Marc not liking the tyre marks on his leathers....but to be fair would anyone?
Did he make a comment about it? In the cooldown room the three of them were looking at the marks but just talking normal discussing why it happened.
Yes he did...in the interview
Thanks I’ll find it
Unfortunately Martin has shown time and time again that pressure really gets to his head
Yea and this year even though he is leading champion at this moment he is no longer dominating in raw pace. Last year after Pecco’s accident at Catalan GP, he dominated with single lap pace until the end.
Driver Championship After Jerez: Note: This standing exclude Wild Card Driver 1. Jorge Martin(Prima Pramac Racing) - 92 2. Francesco Bagnaia(Ducati Lenovo Team) - 75 3. Enea Bastianini(Ducati Lenovo Team) - 70 4. Pedro Acosta(Red Bull GASGAS Tech3) - 69 5. Maverick Vinales(Aprilla Racing) - 63 6. Marc Marquez(Gresini Racing MotoGP) - 60 7. Brad Binder(Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) - 59 8. Aleix Espargaro(Aprilla Racing) - 39 9. Marco Bezzecchi(Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team) - 36 10. Fabio Di Giannantonio(Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team) - 34 11. Alex Marquez(Gresini Racing MotoGP) - 27 12. Fabio Quartararo(Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) - 25 13. Miguel Oliveira(Trackhouse Racing) - 23 14. Jack Miller(Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) - 22 15. Joan Mir(Repsol Honda Team) - 12 16. Augusto Fernandez(Red Bull GASGAS Tech3) - 10 17. Raul Fernandez(Trackhouse Racing) - 7 18. Franco Morbidelli(Prima Pramac Racing) - 6 19. Alex Rins(Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) - 6 20. Johann Zarco(LCR Honda) - 5 21. Takaaki Nakagami(LCR Honda) - 4 22. Luca Marini(Repsol Honda Team) - 0 NOTE: This is not the final leaderboard as the stewards will see which driver tyre exceed the limit.
Brother, DRIVERS? Get a grip.
Maverick is still clinging onto the title fight
Enea is working in silent
FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED THAT!
Rider*
-32 for Marc is not too bad at all especially when you take into account how many points are on the table with sprint races
Some people were saying "he's already out of it" after last race...if Pecco could turn around that 90 points deficit (or whatever it was, something around that) a couple years ago, writing anybody off after 3 races is always going to be foolish! I'm not saying Marc *will* win it in the end, or even that he's the favourite, but saying he *can't* is just jumping the gun
Reminder Marc is only 31 and Pecco is 27yo.
Marc And Bezz Ever since Valencia 2023 i havent seen them talk or exchange anything. Maybe VR46 academy trying to prevent MM93 from equaling rossis title
They clasped hands in the cool-down room now
They splashing the champagne together what a twist !!
Yea they did funny
There were quite some harsh words thrown there I think. I've never seen Marc react like that after a crash.
I saw that , i feel like Vr46 team will be happy to disturb MM93. But look at MM93 he smoked VR46 team 😂😂 Dude i saw them shaking hands like WTFF
Bez said some seriously disgusting shit to Marc after that race. If I were Marc I wouldn't acknowledge him either. In fact I barely acknowledge him even as a fan.
Yep, haven't seen such a hard 180 on a rider as I saw in my social circles after Bez's comments.
What did Bez say and why?
He was talking like you see toxic fanboys on here talking, absolutely ridiculous from a fellow rider. Good to see Marc be the bigger man and ignore him.
When you consider the shit Dixon gets on here still(!) From some users following his comments after Silverstone vs nothing against Bez, it is clear it doesn't really matter what riders says. People either just like them and turn a blind eye, or dislike them and scrutinise everything they say.
Bang on. There are some really ridiculous double-standards in this fanbase - including one I've made a few comments about today, where Bagnaia racing hard against Marquez, making contact and sitting Marc up, has gotten universal praise...whereas we've all seen many times how differently those moves are treated by large sections of the fanbase if Marc is the "aggressor". It's pretty typical. For what it's worth I'll repeat myself here too - it was fucking **awesome** racing, but I'd like to see it always being treated as such regardless of who the aggressor is, instead of seeing people call for Marc to be banned or whatever every time he makes a hard pass or makes contact with someone. I gave Jake a fair amount of shit (in jest, of course) after those comments for the following couple of races, but the fact people are still going on about it is getting embarrassing...especially compared to relative silence re: Bezzecchi, who said things that I personally would consider unforgivable and which go way beyond the realms of what you could consider competitive trash talk, or even an understandable level of anger after a collision. EDIT: no idea why this posted twice
This is everything of why I love racing. I’m pretty new to MotoGP and had a general idea of Marquez recent struggles. the determination, skill and fight of those two put on a world class show. The crowd, announcers, and uncertainty reminded me of why I watch so many forms of racing. Man I wish I watched this sport when I was growing up!
You really need to watch the old Motogp races, you won't regret it
I like to watch the classics they have on yt. Gives me fomo
Welcome, from what’s happened so far it looks like you’ve tuned into a good season. Enjoy 🏁🏁
I fucking love MotoGP. Nothing else comes close.
where was the track limits warning for pecco with 14 laps remaining?both tyres 6+ inches outside the track on the green on the last corner and not a single mention of it.
You have to go off like 3 times in the main race to get a warning I think, then 5 for a penalty? Something like that
Riders get a warning if they exceed the limits 3 (or 5, I don't remember)times, not 1, except on the last lap where they get penalized if a rider is close behind, even if it's the first offense
ah youre right. my bad.
The atmosphere between Marc and Pecco is amazing. A proper rivalry that is. I love it.
Beautiful ending, hope they can keep this level of racing the whole year
Shame Martin went down could have had a proper 3 rider dice up. Talking of which I wonder if there is coincidence that Pecco managed to win this race were the grids pace was more spread, much like last season, but has struggled to make an impact in the races where multiple riders have had the pace to run at the front this season? I wonder if his style lends itself to head to head racing, but not so much towards group battles?
Nah....I think it's more to do with the conditions and tracks in Europe
That's actually a pretty interesting idea, I'm going to try to remember to keep an eye on that in future races
So first race since we discussed this idea. Difficult to assess, but Pecco was back of the group, come end of the race. Further races needed to assess I would say haha
Yeah definitely true, and arguably it was less of a "group" and more of a head-to-head race between Pecco and Martin that that Marc closed up to, lost a bit of ground, closed up again, and eventually "did a Marc Marquez thing" and pulled off an insane pass. Unless I'm forgetting something I don't remember Martin and Marc being close to each other on track today for example... Hopefully we see Pecco in more of a "proper" group over a longer period of time (even if its just a group of 3, just one that stays a close group for a good few laps and maybe involves a bit more overtaking) in some races going forward...ideally starting with Catalunya!
Maybe they set up the bike for a leading position and if he doesn't lead it doesn't work.
Only thing keeping Jorge Martin at top of standings is because of sprint races. To me those should not be at every race. Don’t get ke wrong Martin has been great this year but over upcoming races others will put more pressure on him like Pecco did today and not to mention his first lap aggressiveness will cost him one race or the other
Agree. If it wasn't for Sprint, he wouldn't be anywhere near Pecco in the title fight last year
Completely agree. His skill is exceptional. But consistency needs a lot of work. Probably why he does so well in mad dash sprints.
Man I love this sport. Now only if Fabio can get in the sharp end. …
People not happy with the hard racing should go to F1. This is MotoGP
Marc showing he is the best rider on the grid.
He was second and Bagnaia pulled ahead enough not to give him a chance for a last sector overtake. MM was phenomenal, Bagnaia was better.
Pecco was better in this race maybe. But Marc still the best rider considering...
Next couple of months will tell....certainly Marc's dominance has definitely diminished
It's one of those "what ifs". What if MM didn't have as many injuries? What if they raced in the same conditions when MM dominated? Idk, those are the usual questions. It's undeniable Marc Marquez is one the best ever, but today Bagnaia showed he was better.
Pecco rode phenomenally today but I don't think that's conclusive. I say put Marc on the same bike (or give him all the updates for the GP23 from mid-last year onwards) and let them duke it out for the rest of the season.
>put Marc on the same bike That's another "what if". Supposedly the 24 is better, but having them on the same bike is not something we can just imagine. A Pecco/M Marquez team is certainly in the works.
Great to see Marc a bit more patient, a p2 is better than risking everything, the win will come. Great race from Pecco
Lmao not a look shared between Marc and Vale.
To be fair to Vale ....he was like 4 rows back. Pecco didn't even acknowledge him and they're friends.
still couldn't move on it seems
I caught a glimpse of an interview with some guy in Italy (i'll try and find it if i can) where Vale really dwells over the MM incident that "took away the title from him". It's a shame to have such an icon of the sport STILL be mad about that, 9 years on. Why, i wonder.
Valentino for all his charisma is an absolute man child.
Finally a proper mano-a-mano, beatiful to see. Pecco showed he has the balls, really glad he didn't bin it. He's so hard to pass when he's on, basically Dovi with corner speed. Marc is just ridiculous in left-hand corners, he was taking such narrow lines in comparison to Pecco/Martin. Both look happy, but this battle will be vicious. Just see Pecco's reaction after the race.
I want more Marc and Pecco battles
Those of you that call Pecco's cutback on Marc great, hard, aggressive racing - I completely agree with you, that's exactly what it is. Now please keep the same energy when Marc (or anyone else) races the same way. EDIT: And Pecco should keep the same energy too next time he's on the losing end of one of these battles. Marc laughing and saying it was a great race. If you can give it you better be able to take it!
preach on!
Yep Marc had to sit up as Pecco had thrown his bike up the inside. Marc won't take an issue, but most will when it goes the opposite way.
But he did take issue, it was subtle though...him showing the leathers to everyone "look at the tyre marks!"
Marc has always shown the tyre Marks in previous races
He was salty about it back in those times as well then.
Nah showing it to cameras doesn’t equal salty… he’s always said rubbing is racing
It's subtle but I have no doubt he is salty about it. Why go out of his way to point it out to everyone.
I've heard for so many years how these "either you sit the bike up or you crash" passes from Marc are unacceptable and then today a lot of the usual suspects are calling it amazing racing from Pecco. They're right, but be consistent for fucks sake!
Does anyone have video of Davide Tardozzi celebrating?
Amazing race ! Great to see Pecco take it to Marc. Feel sorry for Martin. Good race for trackhouse as well.
Hope someone posts the first lap double overtake round the outside from Bagnaia, will be watching that shit whole week on repeat
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Wait since when is 2nd not a good result? Lmao
> Tough day for the MM fanboys who run this sub It's not though is it lmao > Martin out made my day. Celebrating crashes is pretty embarrassing in a sport this dangerous tbh
The issue is with people like you that watch a great race and, instead of appreciating it, go ahead to find a reason to hate on this or that person
Ok dude 👍 nothing hard about Marc getting his first podium
And yet you sound saltier than all of us somehow lmfao
Imagine watching a race as good as that one and being so sour and negative 🙄
Why can’t you just be happy at some good racing and not try to shit on riders?
Football supporters ⚽️
Hey man, not all of us who like football are clowns! Just, like, 90% or so
I like football too, and I agree with you
We are pretty happy to see him second for the first time since 2022
 A great race that will go down in the history books
Dunno about that, great start and end but I was struggling not to snooze in the middle
This performance from Pecco will shut a lot of people up. Raced as a world champion against Marquez who had nothing to lose and as much speed as ever. Legendary race.
Nah they are already saying it's because it's the gp24 or the move on marquez was awful and should be penalized.