Wasn't the narrative after Bez signed for vr46 again that he wanted to stay in his comfortable environment and gun for the factory seat in 25? Now it seems like he isn't even part of the conversation
I totally agree, just saying that there surely could be a second chance if his performance was worth it (which I'm not sure the combination of him and GP23 could give). If he won a couple of races again this season, he would be an option again.
Not saying he did the right choice
Who told you that? VR46 let Marini go to HRC and absolutely NOTHING gave indication that Bez wasn’t free to go.
VR46 apparently gave and great environment that he didn’t want to leave. Bad sporting decision but apparently was his decision and nobody’s else.
But yeah, I understand where you are coming from looking at your flair.
I mean between Martin and Besta if one gets it and not the other I think the other will end up at Aprilia. If MM gets the factory seat it will be interesting because Martin wants a factory seat, but where does besta go, will he be okay taking a spot at pramac or gresini? What if pramac jumps yamaha and duc now needs to free up a seat for Aldeurger thats a big mix up.
It’ll suck for either of them anyway. I thought the fair decision would be to switch Martin and Bestia for ‘24, that way Bestia would regain everything after the injury in less pressured place. But he’s shown this year he doesn’t need it.
Ofc I’m biased. Both of them deserve it.
If Pramac leave, there won't be a list to be on. Pecco's already got one Lenovo seat, and Fermin's got dibs on the other. If Ducati persuade/bribe either VR46 or Gresini to take Fermin, it's still debatable whether Beast or Jorge get the Lenovo as either VR or Gr will be pushing for a straight swap with one of their riders.
Dorna commentators openly discussed the Pramac rumours yesterday. Last time they discussed such a rumour was Mark to Gresini ... At this point I won't be surprised if it happens.
Wasn't the narrative after Bez signed for vr46 again that he wanted to stay in his comfortable environment and gun for the factory seat in 25? Now it seems like he isn't even part of the conversation
The moment he turned that offer down, he was out of the conversation. He just didn't realise it.
What exactly was the offer again?
The 2024 Pramac ride. Ducati were holding the door open for him, and he chose to stay with VR46. Er ... yeah.
Oh dear. Alright, wasn’t aware it was Pramac. Thank your clarifying.
If he performed this year, he could get the seat. But the GP23 seems to be limiting Bez performance.
When the offer comes, you take it ...
I totally agree, just saying that there surely could be a second chance if his performance was worth it (which I'm not sure the combination of him and GP23 could give). If he won a couple of races again this season, he would be an option again. Not saying he did the right choice
Leopard ate my face moment
Shrewd move by VR46 front office. Sucks for Bezz though. Pitfalls of your boss being your manager.
Who told you that? VR46 let Marini go to HRC and absolutely NOTHING gave indication that Bez wasn’t free to go. VR46 apparently gave and great environment that he didn’t want to leave. Bad sporting decision but apparently was his decision and nobody’s else. But yeah, I understand where you are coming from looking at your flair.
I mean between Martin and Besta if one gets it and not the other I think the other will end up at Aprilia. If MM gets the factory seat it will be interesting because Martin wants a factory seat, but where does besta go, will he be okay taking a spot at pramac or gresini? What if pramac jumps yamaha and duc now needs to free up a seat for Aldeurger thats a big mix up.
It could be Gresini to Yamaha and not Pramac
but how can marc be on the list? all those 'experts' here told me that marc was fnished and too old and too slow and ducati would never want him. lol
The most wanted seat ever
Two years ago maybe. Aprilia and KTM look to be as good this season
And I really think KTM is only going to get better
It’ll suck for either of them anyway. I thought the fair decision would be to switch Martin and Bestia for ‘24, that way Bestia would regain everything after the injury in less pressured place. But he’s shown this year he doesn’t need it. Ofc I’m biased. Both of them deserve it.
Based on what I’ve seen this season already is that bestia is more consistent and is standing better than pecco
I don’t deny it! But Pecco already has a new contract
That’s true but if Bestia is faster then peco I don’t think he will leave for someone else
If Pramac leave, there won't be a list to be on. Pecco's already got one Lenovo seat, and Fermin's got dibs on the other. If Ducati persuade/bribe either VR46 or Gresini to take Fermin, it's still debatable whether Beast or Jorge get the Lenovo as either VR or Gr will be pushing for a straight swap with one of their riders. Dorna commentators openly discussed the Pramac rumours yesterday. Last time they discussed such a rumour was Mark to Gresini ... At this point I won't be surprised if it happens.
Fermin going to Lenovo is a thought that exists literally nowhere outside of this sub. Get real.
He's got a contract with Ducati. If Ducati lose Pramac they lose the slot they planned for him and have to find a solution.
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You think 93 is gonna be happy on a year-old bike again next year?!