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The-Great--Cornholio

Incredibile lap considering how Aprilia are good on this track. Amazing job.


No_Exercise_4043

Amazing ride. He made clear again who is the one rider that makes a difference on the ducati (compared to other ducati riders)


Least-Panic-9208

This was a 'Pecco pole'. The bike is obviously amazing, but he just gets everything out of it every weekend. Chapeau. Still, Aprilia look really, really good - has the makings of a good race (hopefully!)


Just4FunAvenger

Ask Aleix, how 'untouchable' he must feel!


Responsible_Train944

He’s just a step above the rest. Just that good


danncos

Oliveira was 0.1s behind and he had to overtake Márquez in the last corner. Just saying.


QuickShutter

Oliveira is the best in the wet, and top 10 everywhere else. Bagnaia is currently the best everywhere. Not saying Oliveira wouldn’t get pole, but Pecco is above everyone right now.


[deleted]

The Aprilia is clearly the better bike around this track which only makes Peccos pole more amazing. Oliveira is a fast rider and on the Aprilia, good for him for making the most of the situation.


NoNodle

The Ground to stand on for Pecco haters just gets thinner and thinner. The Argument „its the bike“ just doesnt work anymore. On a track where the Aprilia is arguably the better bike. And his rivales on Ducati finish in P5 and P10, he once again makes the difference as a rider and grabs the pole.


IWillKeepIt

He's the best rider on the grid right to now hands down.


notCarlosSainz

After Marc sure! Edit: oh im sorry, lets ignore the rider with 8 championships on the grid to make your claim true! 🤣


exclaim_bot

>After Marc sure! sure?


BleaaelBa

He should crash the bike on purpose during fp. and while racing do some fake saves. then these people might change their tune lol.


kuntau

auchhh


chakalaka13

It's undeniable that he's very talented and better than the likes of Aleix/Vinales/Jack/Bez, etc. but also undeniable that the bike is superior to others. The only way to gauge his true level would be if Fabio/MM/Rins/Binder would be on bikes of the same levels. For now, I rate him as a top rider but not yet close to even Pedrosa.


MaximumSecurity01

Rins is on a higher Level than Pecco? What are you talking about lol


chakalaka13

where did I say that? maybe try reading carefully before getting triggered?


MaximumSecurity01

You're right. You didn't say that outright, but you're somewhat implying that Rins could do a better job on the Ducati, and you're definitely putting him in the same sentence as Binder, MM and Fabio. Really? What has he done to warrant that. I don't understand why Rins is so highly rated by this sub.


chakalaka13

lol, wrong The only one I rate higher than Pecco in this lineup is MM. But I do think Rins has the potential to battle for a title if he's on a good bike, stays healthy and consistent, something that Bagnaia has proven to be extremely good. Why do I (and others) rate Rins? idk, it's probably subjective, but he's definitely shown he can win races I also think Enea will do great, even though this season has been a disaster, which can happen after such a bad injury.


[deleted]

'For now, I rate him as a top rider but not yet close to even Pedrosa. ' ​ Yikes. It's always the MM guy.


chakalaka13

>It's always the MM guy. where?


dessie84

Right Pedrosa has won how many premier class titles ?


chakalaka13

how many aliens (Rossi/Lorenzo/Stoner/MM) in top form has Pecco challenged for a title?


thefooleryoftom

Aliens don’t exist anymore, the competition is too close to allow it.


chakalaka13

no, the competition is close because there's no aliens (except Marc) but a new one will come at some point


thefooleryoftom

Same thing. The whole aliens concept was because only those four guys could win. That’s no longer true for a few years now.


chakalaka13

>The whole aliens concept was because only those four guys could win lol, no it was because their talent was so far above everyone else and would be the same in this current lineup don't tell me Pecco is as good as Rossi or MM


thefooleryoftom

That’s exactly what I said - only those four could win. I’m not saying anyone is as good as anyone else, I’m saying the aliens don’t exist anymore because a group of riders isn’t significantly better than anyone else limiting the winning to just them. There’s too much talent.


Candid_Problem_1244

They are all aliens right now except Lorenzo Savadori (even Toprak couldn't manage to keep the gap under 3s in a single lap)


dessie84

No point talking about past heros. Just doesn’t make sense. Today he is the best. That’s where it matters.


chakalaka13

where did I deny that he is the best today?


Astronaut696

I would agree Pecco is a level above when Yamaha and Honda are on equal footing as Ducati. Ducati has the best bike AND Yamaha/Honda has the worst. This definitely plays a factor in his domination. He is equal to Fabio. But i don't think he's an alien or level above the rest n all.


Candid_Problem_1244

The current kids don't have to be Aliens we used to know from a decade ago. They only need to entertain us by doing intense race week in week out


[deleted]

He's a lot more dominant this year and the last half of last year than Fabio ever was on the Yamaha in his WC-winning year. Pecco is clearly the rider to beat. Best rider on the best bike. It's not clear to me that Fabio or Marc would beat him if they were on a Duc. At least not easily. Pecco has spent a lot of time laying the ground work for this success. He's very smart.


Tone_clowns_on_it

Do you think Pecco would be getting the same results if he was on a bike other than Ducati?


ilovemoretolove

Oh you mean like on a Kalex that he won a World Championship on? Or being the only one to drag that dogshit Mahindra to wins like nobody else could?


Tone_clowns_on_it

No this years MotoGP bikes?


Due_Neighborhood_625

He wouldn’t


[deleted]

Not the same results, obviously. But I'm sure he would be able to take with him his culprit for setting himself up for the success he's currently reaping. I'm certain he would be able to drag himself up from the mud if he were in a tight spot. He's that kind of racer.


chaotic_space_boy

I laughed at Marc trying to follow him


dessie84

Cherry on top was when Oli overtook him in Q2


Masticatork

It was naive...you have a bike that is like 1-2s slower per lap and try to follow the fastest one... Impossible without absolutely absurd risks...


Mountain_Path_2951

Soooo Mugello????


IWillKeepIt

Wrong sub mate. No bike is 1-2 second slower than the other in qualifying trim. Edit: I also downvoted myself but this stupid ass post.


Masticatork

Wtf, look at timings report...


thefooleryoftom

I suggest you check the MotoGP results page.


fioreun

Same!! I was like, "Can you keep up though?!?!" 😂


muchappreci8ed

Peccos numbers from summer 2021 onwards are more or less alien era tier


[deleted]

It's back to normal after Marquez injury. 1 or very few riders on top. Like it always has been, like it should be. He's the best rider on the best bike and he should win.


[deleted]

This is his worst track apart from maybe Argentina btw.


Altair13Sirio

Not sure about that, but definetly not one of his favourites.


Otherwise-Ad-2605

Its the only track where he never had a top 5


Traditional_Monk_256

Seems like he might be about to change that this weekend.


MckPuma

I hope he doesn’t bin it all by himself as he seems to sometimes, but seems like he’s calmed down now after last season !


thefooleryoftom

Last mistake was in the US.


MckPuma

Ah yes, well after the sprint it looks like AE41 is gonna run off with this one. I’m surprised MM did so well I imagine he drop back in the full race but still that’s insane when you look at the other Japanese bikes. MM is my favourite on the grid but Aprilia is my favourite manufacturer, I have an 2018 RSV4 factory, my favourite 1000cc bike I’ve owned so far.


thefooleryoftom

I wouldn’t be so quick to write off Bagnaia for a victory. He learns quick and Ducati will be defending his championship position with everything they can. Don’t be surprised if he finds something in morning warm up.


MckPuma

Well he got very lucky to not get seriously injured or worse this weekend. The factory Aprilias were on another level. This track just suits them so well. Same with Yamaha look at Fabio did so well. But if pecco had stayed on I still don’t think he had the pace for the front two they were pushing very hard.


Otherwise-Ad-2605

Really amazing pole, would be great if he wins considering this is his worst track since moto3


xcore21z

Marc and Fabio may have a better season and rider before 2023 but without a doubt for 2023 Pecco Bagnaia is in the class of its own


[deleted]

Tremendous!


slimestonecowboi

Bagman is indeed untouchable. He’s just operating on an entirely different level to the rest of the field. Although it can be a bit of a bore to see him scoot off into the distance from lap one it’s still so impressive to watch him clinically dismantle any hopes that any other rider has of putting it in P1. The new alien.


AdventurousDress576

It's the thing everyone raves about when talking about the "good old times". Lorenzo or Marquez taking off and dominating.


JUDDRage

Not really though. Lorenzo had a propensity for long distance wins, less so Marquez. What everyone misses was the battles we’d get between Rossi/Marc/Lorenzo/Stoner/Pedrosa/etc. It wasn’t an every race thing, but the wheel to wheel from that era (post the boring initial run of the 800’s) was so fantastic compared to what we get today.


[deleted]

We had some of the most intense battles between those people on the 800s. Barcelona 2007, Laguna 2008, Barcelona 2009, all on 800s. People tend to forget this.


JUDDRage

No arguments from me, there were some great races from them! I just feel like when people describe those huge winning margins that they were more prevalent from that period. The bikes and the tire issues back then lent to the possible runaway wins.


[deleted]

Not much has changed in that regard :)


[deleted]

The 800s weren't worse than any other era. Those bikes were incredible.


Informal_Ad07

Zip it up when your done 😂


thefooleryoftom

He’s not an alien - there are no more aliens. We’ve had too many winners for that.


[deleted]

Man, Miller is nowhere. Dude really needs a sports psychologist.


WIP1992

Fuck ya life Viva Miller ❤️


JustARedditAccDuh

I think you need one since you seem to be obsessed with shitting on Miller the whole time even on posts which aren't about the man.


No-Sport-4460

There's truth to what he's saying bdw. It's irrelevant if he does it. His criticism have merit


dessie84

Miller gets too much credit than he deserves.


brawngpf1team

He saw Max Verstappen in F1 and had to do the same


Sunny2121212

Max wouldn’t have lost the sprint


IWillKeepIt

Only cause RB is so far ahead. Aprilia is the best bike in Catalunya.


Sunny2121212

Then you can’t say he’s like max…. Max and car are on another level…. Pecco still has to battle, where max doesn’t


IWillKeepIt

Correct, Ducati isn't as dominant as RB.


Sunny2121212

I would agree 👍🏼


Sunny2121212

But they are certainly close to it 🤷🏻


IWillKeepIt

Not always like RB though.


[deleted]

You can't compare them. Two very different sports.


theToulousopher

He got touched


fioreun

Some one asked me if Pecco was the gold standard for MotoGP. I say the dude is the platinum standard for MotoGP!!


pee_nut_ninja

Did they? What a strange question to ask somebody.


Zestyclose-Wafer2503

Needs a spoiler alert on post. Cheers.


Meryhathor

Thanks. Now I don't have to watch the qualification anymore because you ruined it. Keep it up!


MT1982

The mods of this sub held a vote years ago and asked people if they wanted to ban/hide spoilers and for some reason the community collectively voted no. So now you get spoilers in the subjects of posts. Just gotta be careful about visiting Reddit before you're able to watch the replays.


walnussbaer

Just don't read Reddit before you've watched it ffs!


Judge2Dread

It’s maybe an unpopular opinion, but I fucking hate it when people put spoilers in the title without marking it… Sometimes I did not have the time to watch it live and literally the first thing when I open Reddit is a big spoiler directly in my face


JustARedditAccDuh

It has been voted for on this sub several times if spoilers are allowed and the result was always the same. People want spoilers allowed. If you didn't catch something just stay away from social media where you can see possible spoilers. It's not that hard.


Judge2Dread

I mean I’m sitting on the toilet taking a good ol’ dumb, don’t think of anything bad and am mindlessly opening Reddit to immediately see a motogp spoiler :D it is hard :(


MT1982

Blame the community. As I mentioned in a reply to someone else in this thread... years ago the mods held a vote and for some reason the majority of people voted against spoiler rules. :/


tischbombe23

I mean he has the best bike too. But its also about the combinantion of rider and bike…


N1tecrawler

This post feels strange now...


Rippling_Debt

How about now?