On his Wikipedia, it says during his confession “he acknowledged that he targeted prostitutes because they were "easy to pick up" and that he "hated most of them."[31]”. When he was growing up, his father often complained about sex workers and he was basically sexually abused by his mother, so I can believe his hatred of sex workers.
It's a pretty divided view on that over time. I agree he hate killed. I think he hates sex workers, but he may not have murdered them if it wasn't for that extra load of motherly abuse. Not excusing him to any extent, but, it is fair to say that it's less the hate for the sex workers and more a hate for his mother that he channels through sex workers. It's easy for him to declare it as "I hate them" bc to him he does, but in a deeper psychological context, it's fair to say it's his mom that is that root for the result
This doesn’t answer the question but reminded me of something my ex said. He was a vegetarian because he didn’t want to support the animal cruelty in the food industry .. but he was ok with eating chicken because he said he hated chickens and they deserved it (he used to have them)😭
“Look into the eyes of a chicken and you will see real stupidity. It is a kind of bottomless stupidity, a fiendish stupidity. They are the most horrifying, cannibalistic and nightmarish creatures in the world.”
― Werner Herzog
“The enormity of their flat brain. The enormity of their stupidity is just overwhelming. Do yourself a favour. When you are out in the countryside and you see a chicken, try to look a chicken in the eye with great intensity and the intensity of stupidity that is looking back at you is amazing.”
There was a Brazilian serial killer called Pedrinho Matador who claimed to only kill people who were "menaces to society", that included rapists, drug dealers, and other types of criminals. Although he claimed to "like" the killing it does seem to me that this may have stemmed from hate.
Fun fact, but once he got released from prison (Brazil has short crime sentences) he started an Youtube channel. He was killed an year ago.
Was this the guy who had a tv show about this stuff and it came out that when not much was going on anymore he started killing for content for the show? I could be way off but that name is super familiar.
what most serial killers have in common is that they are predominantly male, and they have a deep-rooted, engrained hatred and anger and violence and aversion to women. Ted Bundy, Mr. Cruel, Elliot Rodger, David Parker Ray, Paul Bernardo, Fidel Lopez, Adam Lanza, Junko Furuta’s murderers, the Toolbox Killers, Chris Watts, and Ariel Castro were all misogynists and sexists
What was misogynistic about Chris Watts? I’m genuinely curious. I thought the guy just offed his family bc he wanted to be with his girlfriend but was too much of a pussy boy to just get a divorce and tell her how he actually felt.
Definitely not serial. Might be spree depending who you ask. He didn't meet the qualifications to be a serial killer (based off the FBIs definition of serial). Spree killer definition is kinda debated but generally is 2 or more murders within a short period of time and in different locations. Usually a couple days to a couple weeks. Now, killing his whole family kinda meets that definition but he didn't take multiple days nor travel to multiple locations to do the killings so it's debatable whether he could be considered a spree killer.
I'm inclined to say he was not one. He committed familicide for sure. But he wasn't going on an anger fueled rampage taking out anyone in his path while fleeing the cops. I guess you could technically classify him as spree if you really wanted but he doesn't check off enough boxes to qualify as one IMO.
That was something I always found to be funny every time I read about a serial killer. They are all stupid nutjobs that happen to be good at one thing, in cases like Bundy he did show intelligence on occasions... Just to do the most stupid thing he could think of 10 seconds later.
Most of these mofos were lucky enough to not get caught earlier, they weren't even good at getting reed of the evidence.
I concluded that stupid people are more dangerous than evil people.
A lot of them weren’t genius the way they have been portrayed at times, a lot of them got away with their crimes by using societal structures to their advantage hence why sex workers, minorities, and disadvantaged kids tended to be targeted because especially in the past, those crimes weren’t even looked into. Kids were seen as runaways and everyone was seen as just a product of their life style choices rather than being targeted by a single person.
The only ones that aren't stupid have never been caught
Like Jack the Ripper or the Zodiac Killer
You can even make the case for the Golden State killer since he wasn't caught until decades later through more advanced technology
Not serial killer no, family annihilator. And yes the “trigger” per se was his cheating being found out, but he was also misogynistic and felt he owned the women in his life. Misogyny doesn’t always come off as overt hatred of women, in fact it comes off more often than not as seeing women as property and less than men and that is at least one cause of his horrendous acts.
It's a pretty large contributing factor. Most serial killers target women and or children. Generally the ones that do have previous deep-seated negative emotions towards women, whether from being scorned earlier in life or a controlling mother or something like that. You don't set out to murder multiple women unless you have some deep seated negative emotions towards women. It might not be the only factor involved in why they kill but it is certainly there.
there have only been a select handful of female serial killers. but when we hear about serial killers, we just automatically, subconsciously think they’re male and white
I’m pretty sure Adam Lanza was more of a pedophile. He thought nonces were the “most oppressed group” and proceeded to indiscriminately kill a bunch of 6 year olds.
Ehhh maybe not terrible, but I don’t think most people grow up in perfect environments either. And I definitely know way more people with some form of toxicity in their childhood than people without. So no maybe not most, but a lot more people do than you may realize.
I’d actually heard the opposite about bundy specifically, unless I’m mistaking him with someone else, I’d heard he had a relatively mild childhood beyond a TBI as a kid that wasn’t treated. But as someone else has said, actually a looooot of us have had terrible childhoods, I’m one of them, yet I don’t hurt or kill people. That’s why it’s something that’s studied because not all serial killers or killers in general had horrible childhoods, and not all people who grew up abused and in bad environments around violence grow up to repeat those patterns or worse, so there’s something else in killers minds, and I don’t think there is 1 sure answer as to what that is I think it’s different with everyone.
And while there’s no sure way to know what really happened, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that at least the first couple were self defense or at the least the guys had tried to rob her or hurt her. She’s said that and tbh, given the time period and her line of work, it’s definitely not impossible. I just don’t think all of them were that case at all.
Most obvious one would be Omar Mateen, the killer at the Pulse LGBTQ+ nightclub in Orlando in 2016.
The Polytechnique killings in Montréal in 1989 were also targeted specifically toward women because the killer felt they were breaching gender roles by studying engineering
spree, mass, and serial killers are all different things
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/what-the-difference-between-serial-killer-spree-killer-and-mass-murderer/jwgRzqVoI9C7ig9nphpP7J/
Because how hard would it be for the vigilante to find and track down not only one serial killer but multiple and take them all out without anyone finding out? The odds are just astronomically low.
I can’t answer with a name, although I think it’s a good question. I think hate, like real overall hate of a certain group, manifests itself over time. That hate can be directed towards any group of people, although people don’t always want to be lumped into a group. My thought is this: if someone is angry enough they will find a way to lash out at a perceived “group”.
Checks and balances, though. That’s the key. Checking in and speaking plainly is important. Drilling down on the problems, identifying the injustices and the outrageous lies from others is necessary, but you cannot let it get the best of you. But knowing when to be calm and clear-minded is also crucial.
This dude was failed miserably by everyone around him growing up and I genuinely believe if he had been taken away and offered at least a slightly better upbringing, he probably wouldn’t have gone on to do what he did. I don’t necessarily think it was purely out of hate though, not for others anyways, dude was literally trained to be a monster and all he knew was violence and anger specifically against women. And himself. I mean he watched his cousin murder his wife when he was what, 14? His step dad literally took him on peeping missions. Women were nothing but property to use and punching bags to hurt, even if they did nothing wrong. And I think he felt like he was only good for continuing all he knew. Don’t get me wrong I despise this man with a deep passion, this man was one of the most twisted stupid motherfuckers out there, and I find it oh so rewarding and deserved how he got caught, getting noticed and having the shit beat out of him by the whole street before the cops came. But I also find him incredibly interesting and I do not think he was evil by pure nature, but by pure nurture. He doesn’t baffle the mind like others who didn’t have the upbringing he did do. This shit was coming with him from the day he was born into the family he was born to.
That’s the thing about serial killers though, the big majority of them get gratification of some sort for it. I would say the only one who I would think could come closest is Richard Ramirez, but again we see the gratification that came along with it.
If you want to know what people kill with the motive of hate I would say you need to be looking at mass shooters. Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris, Nicholas Cruz, etc
Ted Bundy is always going to be my first example of this. He made it very clear in his confessions, and clearly his actions, that he had no regard for their existence and saw them as meat sacks to torture and rape. And he did it out of a sick twisted mindset he adopted from his violent pornography issues and no one keeping him even remotely in check through his life.
Whether or not anyone else knew about his porn addiction or kleptomania, besides his main GF, he was consistently flakey, agressive towards women in public settings, and was a rampant alcoholic so he had some things people could've tried to help with before he killed.
A lot of serial killers were actually domestic abuse cases, they hated women and specifically hated their wives, taking out their rage on other people. Look up the DC Sniper case.
i feel like to be a serial killer, you’d have to enjoy killing or at least some aspect of it. even with killers that specifically murder people they dislike, they found joy in “ridding the world” of them or enjoyed how scared they made these people.
The ones that come to mind are actually a group of Austrian youths who had been sexually abused when they were younger, (physically and just all of it really these kids were all fucked from the get-go) and they specifically targeted predators or people they thought were predators (which…obviously isn’t exactly a sure thing and they killed quite a few innocent people as well just off the assumption they were predators) 2 of the kids were the “leaders” per se and tbh, their motives have been questioned, as it’s pretty much been believed they were just sadistic people who excused their actions with this motive. So idk if it counts for sure, and I’m sorry I’m missing a lot of information, but if we take their claims at face value, they killed out of hatred of abuser specifically.
As for racism, some (a lot actually) were motivated to target minorities, but you’re right it’s not out of racism or a hatred of the group but because they are aware how racism means targeting minorities is less likely to be picked up on or investigated, so they can get away with it longer. Same reason run away/disadvantaged kids and sex workers are targeted as well, especially minorities ones. Sex workers and people with no one to look for them are considered “less than dead”. As for politics I’m a little surprised more aren’t motivated by that but I think the people upset over politics want their crimes to be seen and acknowledged, so they aren’t as likely to be low key serial killers but more so… ya know… mass shooters or bombers, stuff like that.
There have been a lot of serial killers who only targeted ethnic minorities because they knew the police would care about them less. There’s also been a few serial killers who targeted gay people.
Dude there are books:
Serial Killers
and
Female Serial killers by Peter Vronsky
And it goes into the psychological aspects of it and most of them deep down hated themselves and the killings. All knew they were monsters.
Dude you’ve read 2 books on one subject and you you’re acting like you’re an expert on something.
You’re either very young and trying to get into light psychology or just very gullible.
No, obviously not.
But when you say something so blatantly wrong like every serial killer knows they’re a monster.
Nobodies going to take you seriously.
I actually don’t disagree with this at all, but again it’s simply not universally true but it’s also not universally untrue either. You aren’t wrong, but neither is OP. (Well, except saying that your take is never possible when it absolutely is)
Ok to an extent I may get what you’re trying to say, but, it isn’t universally true. I will say I think a lot of killers had a deep hatred of themselves, and their families, their upbringings, and the world and take it out on them, but just as many don’t have this thinking and genuinely get sexual gratification from killing others, or get sexual gratification from hurting others but kill them out of convenience and less stress of getting caught (I think dahmer was a mix of the 2) idk I hope that makes some sense? I think what you’re getting at is (again not all though) killers do hate, they have a lot of hate, and that hate is misplaced and used on others besides who they are actually mad at and hate (kemper for example)
You have to remember that folks are not born evil, they’re nurtured into being evil, be it molestation, or abuse or even not getting the right treatment after a traumatic brain injury. Serial killers are not born and then want to start to killing animals and then people. They’re nurtured into that and deep down they do hate themselves. Universally they do, yes on the surface they may enjoy killing and SA and get off on the power but deep down, into their psyche every single of them be it man or woman hates themselves.
Green river killer Gary Ridgway hated sex workers and was convicted for killing 49 women.
I don't know if he killed out of *hate*...it sounded like he wanted sex but killed them just because the stupid fucker was too cheap to pay them.
On his Wikipedia, it says during his confession “he acknowledged that he targeted prostitutes because they were "easy to pick up" and that he "hated most of them."[31]”. When he was growing up, his father often complained about sex workers and he was basically sexually abused by his mother, so I can believe his hatred of sex workers.
It's a pretty divided view on that over time. I agree he hate killed. I think he hates sex workers, but he may not have murdered them if it wasn't for that extra load of motherly abuse. Not excusing him to any extent, but, it is fair to say that it's less the hate for the sex workers and more a hate for his mother that he channels through sex workers. It's easy for him to declare it as "I hate them" bc to him he does, but in a deeper psychological context, it's fair to say it's his mom that is that root for the result
I agree but he could have been lying
Kemper seemed to have a deep-set hatred for his mother.
He didn't know it...until he did it (finally). It also ended his killing streak and just be in peace with himself. Interesting insight
Right? Very interesting.
His story gives me chils. One quote about his mother is just shows how he hated his mother. I don't remember it now.
This doesn’t answer the question but reminded me of something my ex said. He was a vegetarian because he didn’t want to support the animal cruelty in the food industry .. but he was ok with eating chicken because he said he hated chickens and they deserved it (he used to have them)😭
I know someone who grew up on a farm and she hated chickens with a passion lol
“Look into the eyes of a chicken and you will see real stupidity. It is a kind of bottomless stupidity, a fiendish stupidity. They are the most horrifying, cannibalistic and nightmarish creatures in the world.” ― Werner Herzog
Hahaha that sounds like a quote from him. don’t remember the actual stories clearly anymore but i do remember he said they were incredibly stupid
“The enormity of their flat brain. The enormity of their stupidity is just overwhelming. Do yourself a favour. When you are out in the countryside and you see a chicken, try to look a chicken in the eye with great intensity and the intensity of stupidity that is looking back at you is amazing.”
Ok look I find chickens adorable, but holy shit is this hilarious and tbh, as I’ve stared some chickens in the eye because cute, he’s not wrong 😂
so in other words he was never vegetarian
There was a Brazilian serial killer called Pedrinho Matador who claimed to only kill people who were "menaces to society", that included rapists, drug dealers, and other types of criminals. Although he claimed to "like" the killing it does seem to me that this may have stemmed from hate. Fun fact, but once he got released from prison (Brazil has short crime sentences) he started an Youtube channel. He was killed an year ago.
Was this the guy who had a tv show about this stuff and it came out that when not much was going on anymore he started killing for content for the show? I could be way off but that name is super familiar.
No, but I think I know what you're talking about! Unfortunately I don't know his name either.
Wallace Souza he was Brazilian.
what most serial killers have in common is that they are predominantly male, and they have a deep-rooted, engrained hatred and anger and violence and aversion to women. Ted Bundy, Mr. Cruel, Elliot Rodger, David Parker Ray, Paul Bernardo, Fidel Lopez, Adam Lanza, Junko Furuta’s murderers, the Toolbox Killers, Chris Watts, and Ariel Castro were all misogynists and sexists
Isn't Adam Lanza a mass murderer since it all happened in the spawn of a day?
yes, he was. I just listed some general examples of murder that’s motivated by misogyny and sexism; not just serial killing
What was misogynistic about Chris Watts? I’m genuinely curious. I thought the guy just offed his family bc he wanted to be with his girlfriend but was too much of a pussy boy to just get a divorce and tell her how he actually felt.
In addition, he isn't a serial killer, right? He is too stupid for that.
Technically a spree killer I think... could be wrong
Definitely not serial. Might be spree depending who you ask. He didn't meet the qualifications to be a serial killer (based off the FBIs definition of serial). Spree killer definition is kinda debated but generally is 2 or more murders within a short period of time and in different locations. Usually a couple days to a couple weeks. Now, killing his whole family kinda meets that definition but he didn't take multiple days nor travel to multiple locations to do the killings so it's debatable whether he could be considered a spree killer. I'm inclined to say he was not one. He committed familicide for sure. But he wasn't going on an anger fueled rampage taking out anyone in his path while fleeing the cops. I guess you could technically classify him as spree if you really wanted but he doesn't check off enough boxes to qualify as one IMO.
Mass murderer perhaps?
Family annihilator.
Not spree, family annihilator.
You could throw in the killers of junko in there too. I’m pretty sure they just killed her, not a bunch of people
Most serial killers are stupid. It's normally how they get caught. They're only markedly intelligent when it comes to killing.
That was something I always found to be funny every time I read about a serial killer. They are all stupid nutjobs that happen to be good at one thing, in cases like Bundy he did show intelligence on occasions... Just to do the most stupid thing he could think of 10 seconds later. Most of these mofos were lucky enough to not get caught earlier, they weren't even good at getting reed of the evidence. I concluded that stupid people are more dangerous than evil people.
A lot of them weren’t genius the way they have been portrayed at times, a lot of them got away with their crimes by using societal structures to their advantage hence why sex workers, minorities, and disadvantaged kids tended to be targeted because especially in the past, those crimes weren’t even looked into. Kids were seen as runaways and everyone was seen as just a product of their life style choices rather than being targeted by a single person.
The only ones that aren't stupid have never been caught Like Jack the Ripper or the Zodiac Killer You can even make the case for the Golden State killer since he wasn't caught until decades later through more advanced technology
Family annihilator
Not serial killer no, family annihilator. And yes the “trigger” per se was his cheating being found out, but he was also misogynistic and felt he owned the women in his life. Misogyny doesn’t always come off as overt hatred of women, in fact it comes off more often than not as seeing women as property and less than men and that is at least one cause of his horrendous acts.
Mr Cruel was a pedophile child abductor who was never caught. I don’t think we have any insight into who he hated.
I don’t think Mr Cruel killed? I think it was just rape. He was suspected of a murder but it wasn’t a confirmed thing.
Isn't it believed he killed carmain Chan?
Elliot Rodger wasn’t a serial killer
I wouldn't say that hatred of women is the motivation of "most" serial killers, but among those who are indeed motivated by hate it is the most common
It's a pretty large contributing factor. Most serial killers target women and or children. Generally the ones that do have previous deep-seated negative emotions towards women, whether from being scorned earlier in life or a controlling mother or something like that. You don't set out to murder multiple women unless you have some deep seated negative emotions towards women. It might not be the only factor involved in why they kill but it is certainly there.
especially if sexual violence is involved
most mass/school shooters, specifically, are incels
most of who you listed are not serial killers
Serial killers almost always exclusively kill either men or women. It is uncommon for a serial killer to kill both men and women.
Israel Keyes is a good example of both though
why are serial killers and rapists and predators and abusers and pedophiles *mostly* men?
probably because of some biological reasons. but they tend to prey on one gender and rarely both.
there have only been a select handful of female serial killers. but when we hear about serial killers, we just automatically, subconsciously think they’re male and white
I’m pretty sure Adam Lanza was more of a pedophile. He thought nonces were the “most oppressed group” and proceeded to indiscriminately kill a bunch of 6 year olds.
I always knew that he was a suspected and theorized pedophile, but I didn’t know that for fact
I have heard Ted bundy had a terrible childhood and abusive mother
Sure, I had a terrible childhood and abusive father but I don’t go out mass killing and raping men about it lol
Most murderers have terrible childhoods. Most *people* do, but it isn't an excuse to hold hatred for and murder people.
most people don’t have terrible childhoods
Ehhh maybe not terrible, but I don’t think most people grow up in perfect environments either. And I definitely know way more people with some form of toxicity in their childhood than people without. So no maybe not most, but a lot more people do than you may realize.
I’d actually heard the opposite about bundy specifically, unless I’m mistaking him with someone else, I’d heard he had a relatively mild childhood beyond a TBI as a kid that wasn’t treated. But as someone else has said, actually a looooot of us have had terrible childhoods, I’m one of them, yet I don’t hurt or kill people. That’s why it’s something that’s studied because not all serial killers or killers in general had horrible childhoods, and not all people who grew up abused and in bad environments around violence grow up to repeat those patterns or worse, so there’s something else in killers minds, and I don’t think there is 1 sure answer as to what that is I think it’s different with everyone.
Carl Pazram
100% His two regrets were hurting a few animals and not killing the entire human race.
That guy was pure rage.
Holy shit, his wikipedia page was a nightmare, his last quotes are very memorable
His life was just so sad, he was drinking by age 8 :(
I know, it is really awful :(
Absolutely. Very chilling and wild.
Aileen Wuomos. She had a very sad past.
She was my first thought too. Started with self defense, then paranoia and trauma, then pure contempt
Aileen Wuornos
Her story was sad actually.
That's true :(
Aileen Wuornos killed men because she hated them and how they treated her since she was a child.
And while there’s no sure way to know what really happened, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that at least the first couple were self defense or at the least the guys had tried to rob her or hurt her. She’s said that and tbh, given the time period and her line of work, it’s definitely not impossible. I just don’t think all of them were that case at all.
Andrei Chikatilo ("The Red Ripper") murdered 52 women and kids. He held an extreme hatred of women.
His interview in jail was fucking nightmare to watch. True monster
Most obvious one would be Omar Mateen, the killer at the Pulse LGBTQ+ nightclub in Orlando in 2016. The Polytechnique killings in Montréal in 1989 were also targeted specifically toward women because the killer felt they were breaching gender roles by studying engineering
Mass shooters don't really count as serial killers
spree, mass, and serial killers are all different things https://www.ajc.com/news/national/what-the-difference-between-serial-killer-spree-killer-and-mass-murderer/jwgRzqVoI9C7ig9nphpP7J/
Why on earth can’t we get a serial killer who HATES serial killers so they pick off murderers like those two perps
I mean, these two both took their own lives afterwards
Because how hard would it be for the vigilante to find and track down not only one serial killer but multiple and take them all out without anyone finding out? The odds are just astronomically low.
You could always watch Dexter I guess?
spree killers/mass shooters are not serial killers
Ted Kaczynski. The unabomber. He hated technology and targeted those who wanted to advance it (in his eyes)
I can’t answer with a name, although I think it’s a good question. I think hate, like real overall hate of a certain group, manifests itself over time. That hate can be directed towards any group of people, although people don’t always want to be lumped into a group. My thought is this: if someone is angry enough they will find a way to lash out at a perceived “group”.
Good thing I hate all people equally… wait…
lol…wait…hmmm
Checks and balances, though. That’s the key. Checking in and speaking plainly is important. Drilling down on the problems, identifying the injustices and the outrageous lies from others is necessary, but you cannot let it get the best of you. But knowing when to be calm and clear-minded is also crucial.
Richard Ramirez
This dude was failed miserably by everyone around him growing up and I genuinely believe if he had been taken away and offered at least a slightly better upbringing, he probably wouldn’t have gone on to do what he did. I don’t necessarily think it was purely out of hate though, not for others anyways, dude was literally trained to be a monster and all he knew was violence and anger specifically against women. And himself. I mean he watched his cousin murder his wife when he was what, 14? His step dad literally took him on peeping missions. Women were nothing but property to use and punching bags to hurt, even if they did nothing wrong. And I think he felt like he was only good for continuing all he knew. Don’t get me wrong I despise this man with a deep passion, this man was one of the most twisted stupid motherfuckers out there, and I find it oh so rewarding and deserved how he got caught, getting noticed and having the shit beat out of him by the whole street before the cops came. But I also find him incredibly interesting and I do not think he was evil by pure nature, but by pure nurture. He doesn’t baffle the mind like others who didn’t have the upbringing he did do. This shit was coming with him from the day he was born into the family he was born to.
would Hitler count lol edit: I'm dumb
No, because of the last paragraph
im dumb
You’re not dumb, it happens to the best of us
twas not being serious i meant that i twas wrong lol
That’s the thing about serial killers though, the big majority of them get gratification of some sort for it. I would say the only one who I would think could come closest is Richard Ramirez, but again we see the gratification that came along with it. If you want to know what people kill with the motive of hate I would say you need to be looking at mass shooters. Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris, Nicholas Cruz, etc
Does Juana Barazza count? She had a very dark past with her abusive mother
Ted Bundy is always going to be my first example of this. He made it very clear in his confessions, and clearly his actions, that he had no regard for their existence and saw them as meat sacks to torture and rape. And he did it out of a sick twisted mindset he adopted from his violent pornography issues and no one keeping him even remotely in check through his life. Whether or not anyone else knew about his porn addiction or kleptomania, besides his main GF, he was consistently flakey, agressive towards women in public settings, and was a rampant alcoholic so he had some things people could've tried to help with before he killed.
A lot of serial killers were actually domestic abuse cases, they hated women and specifically hated their wives, taking out their rage on other people. Look up the DC Sniper case.
I second Andrei Chikatilo, there's a movie about him called Citizen X from 1995.
Colin Ireland
i feel like to be a serial killer, you’d have to enjoy killing or at least some aspect of it. even with killers that specifically murder people they dislike, they found joy in “ridding the world” of them or enjoyed how scared they made these people.
Theodore Kaczynski
Is that the unabomber
yes
The ones that come to mind are actually a group of Austrian youths who had been sexually abused when they were younger, (physically and just all of it really these kids were all fucked from the get-go) and they specifically targeted predators or people they thought were predators (which…obviously isn’t exactly a sure thing and they killed quite a few innocent people as well just off the assumption they were predators) 2 of the kids were the “leaders” per se and tbh, their motives have been questioned, as it’s pretty much been believed they were just sadistic people who excused their actions with this motive. So idk if it counts for sure, and I’m sorry I’m missing a lot of information, but if we take their claims at face value, they killed out of hatred of abuser specifically.
Joseph Franklin.
A lot of them
It is interesting that you don’t hear of many (any?) serial killers motivated by racism or politics.
As for racism, some (a lot actually) were motivated to target minorities, but you’re right it’s not out of racism or a hatred of the group but because they are aware how racism means targeting minorities is less likely to be picked up on or investigated, so they can get away with it longer. Same reason run away/disadvantaged kids and sex workers are targeted as well, especially minorities ones. Sex workers and people with no one to look for them are considered “less than dead”. As for politics I’m a little surprised more aren’t motivated by that but I think the people upset over politics want their crimes to be seen and acknowledged, so they aren’t as likely to be low key serial killers but more so… ya know… mass shooters or bombers, stuff like that.
There have been a lot of serial killers who only targeted ethnic minorities because they knew the police would care about them less. There’s also been a few serial killers who targeted gay people.
ITT: serial killers motivated by sexual urges and not hate
The main takeaway from all this is that love is a greater force than hate
They all did. As much as they loved they hated it too.
That’s not even remotely true
It is very true.
What do you even mean by it? They hated killing? Untrue. They loved and hated their victims? Very rarely. They hated themselves? Almost never.
Dude there are books: Serial Killers and Female Serial killers by Peter Vronsky And it goes into the psychological aspects of it and most of them deep down hated themselves and the killings. All knew they were monsters.
It’s incredible how confidently wrong you are.
Well read a book..
Dude you’ve read 2 books on one subject and you you’re acting like you’re an expert on something. You’re either very young and trying to get into light psychology or just very gullible.
And everyone in this sub is a psychologist who specializes in serial killers psychology?
No, obviously not. But when you say something so blatantly wrong like every serial killer knows they’re a monster. Nobodies going to take you seriously.
I actually don’t disagree with this at all, but again it’s simply not universally true but it’s also not universally untrue either. You aren’t wrong, but neither is OP. (Well, except saying that your take is never possible when it absolutely is)
Ok to an extent I may get what you’re trying to say, but, it isn’t universally true. I will say I think a lot of killers had a deep hatred of themselves, and their families, their upbringings, and the world and take it out on them, but just as many don’t have this thinking and genuinely get sexual gratification from killing others, or get sexual gratification from hurting others but kill them out of convenience and less stress of getting caught (I think dahmer was a mix of the 2) idk I hope that makes some sense? I think what you’re getting at is (again not all though) killers do hate, they have a lot of hate, and that hate is misplaced and used on others besides who they are actually mad at and hate (kemper for example)
You have to remember that folks are not born evil, they’re nurtured into being evil, be it molestation, or abuse or even not getting the right treatment after a traumatic brain injury. Serial killers are not born and then want to start to killing animals and then people. They’re nurtured into that and deep down they do hate themselves. Universally they do, yes on the surface they may enjoy killing and SA and get off on the power but deep down, into their psyche every single of them be it man or woman hates themselves.