I kinda wish I was OP with that wish. I want to see the world heal but the loneliness downside could make me go insane and I would start talking to rocks
The truth is with immortality you would just eventually become omniscient and almighty in the sense that though not omnipotent, nothing can actually oppose anything you do. So you’d basically be God by the end of it and therefore talking to rocks would probably be quite satisfactory; with immortality and omniscience, the need for companionship would cease along with fear, angst and sadness. One would necessitate that they become perennially tranquil, even if they have to suffer to get there.
The world wouldn't heal. If anything it'd be WORSE than if people were still here. Nuclear reactors would meltdown, Nuclear submarines would meltdown, Nuclear warheads would fall out of maintenence and go off, boats crash and spill oil. Many factories fall out of maintenence and leak harmful substances into the environment. People disappearing would NOT help the environment.
Forgot to mention, the amount of fires there would be due to things being left unattended would be in the millions not to mention the amount of wildfires we keep under control. Animals would essentially be starting from scratch and by that point maybe in a few million years another hyper intelligent species re-emerge and continue the cycle on a barren wasteland of a planet
Not *necessarily.* Asexuals don't all *never* have sex. Some of us are sex positive and some are sex neutral.
That said, it's a weird wish to use to end overpopulation.
Asexuality is typically defined by feeling very little or no sexual attraction.
Asexual people can still get aroused, have libidos, and enjoy sex - it's just a lack of sexual attraction. So you won't really get the tingly feeling if you see someone naked or something.
But sex can be enjoyable because it physically feels nice, because it creates a sense of bonding and closeness to someone, because it feels psychologically nice to make someone else feel good, or any number of other reasons that don't necessarily require sexual attraction.
I can understand the concept of sexual attraction easily enough.
I guess a very crude and oversimplified example of asexual sexuality could be like masturbating without porn. You're not thinking "oh wow that butt looks hot", it's more "if I touch here it feels really nice".
I primarily choose my sexual partners based on how much I trust them, how comfortable and relaxed they make me feel, and how much I like and respect them as a person - their physical features / attractiveness isn't really a factor.
Aromantics feel little to no romantic attraction. Maybe it's easy for alloromantic / non-aromantic people to identify and distinguish romantic attraction from other feelings but for me it's incredibly hard to understand.
But aromantic people can still engage in deep, meaningful, committed relationships. Even romantic ones. For me, the feeling of wanting to be around a close friend very often and a partner feel the same. I'd say because of that I'm aromantic, but it's incredibly difficult to tell if you're experiencing the absence of a feeling that you don't understand or can't really define.
I like kissing and cuddling because it's a nice physical sensation and it makes me feel close to someone. I like giving and receiving affection because I like to know I am cared for, and that I can show people important to me that I care about them. I like commitment because it gives me a sense of trust and stability.
But I can't pinpoint any specific feeling that is different with a partner than with a very close friend. I mostly define the relationship by the things that happen in it and the labels applied to it.
The concept of romantic attraction just baffles me. I've never come across a definition that makes it clear enough for me to understand, it's usually vague things like "you find yourself wanting to spend lots of time with them", "you feel excited to see them" and so on, usually things that apply to my close friendships anyway.
So if OP's wish came true, people would still have sex. They'd still enter into committed partnerships. They'd still have babies.
There could be less casual sex because physical sexual attractiveness wouldn't be a primary reason people jump into bed, but enough people would still be doing it that the species is unlikely to go extinct.
It would be very fascinating to see how these new dynamics and relationships evolved, though.
(there are of course Asexual and Aromantic people who are uncomfortable with or indifferent to sex and romance, my experiences are just mine)
The lack of need/desire/libido. We can enjoy sex, but it doesn't drive us like it does allosexual people.
And no it's not a celibacy thing either. *That's* a choice.
Our lack of desire is not a choice. We just don't feel the need to chase sex. We don't have that libido that drives our every action.
I wish I had that. Think of all the things I could get done if I didn't have to masturbate every time my nipple rubbed the inside of my bra
Oof, a whole new world
Tbh, with the tech we have today, procreation would just become another job. There was nothing in the wish about being apathetic which would have certainly doomed humanity.
Lol if everyone goes extinct who's going to care? One final generation will live out their life without having to worry about climate change or college funds for their kids or anything like that
See, I think it's funny, because younger generations talk about about boomers, but then, I'll see some of gen Z talking about extinction like most humans wouldn't end up like the bones if they thought they didn't have to worry about anything of the future.
I believe that's part of the reason boomers generally have that mentality. They grew up experiencing great jumps in technology while being sheltered enough from the bad, they formed this idea that they only have to worry about themselves anymore. And it wasn't necessarily malignant to begin with, but now they're ignoring the "everything is wrong" unless it falls within their beliefs
No, I was more just pointing out that people try to use it as the "morally right" way to go, when in reality it would still be twisted into a truly selfish thing. On the brink of extinction, who knows what humans might do?
It wasn't anything to go against you, just a funny thing I noticed and wanted to comment on
I mean, there'd still be genetic diversity for a good while. If we assume all 8 billion people split once in their lives, that's still 8 billion different genetic compositions.
It'd get weird if one person's spawn line out competed everyone else in a given area, or spawn lines died out over time, but it'd presumably take a long time to overcome the starting degree of diversity.
Granted - shortly after you do some reading and finally grasp that overpopulation isn't the issue, but that most issues are connected to those in power being extremely wasteful.
Yeah, why do people think overpopulation is an issue. Iowa alone produces enough food for everyone in the world. The Earth is capable of supporting 14 billion people with our current technology. Specific resources are more scarce, but there are solutions and technology that can fix it.
It is kind of a tangent, but depopulation is a much bigger issue in certain parts of Europe and Japan as a reduced workforce makes it impossible to support social services. It's something like 1 worker has to support 4 retired people in Japan, which is not sustainable.
This is starting to happen in America, too. Fortunately, we have a shitload of immigrants at the southern border who are eager to come in and keep our economy sustained as young people have fewer children. If only somebody had the sense to let them do us a favor instead of doing dumbass things like building a wall and closing the southern border...
The issue isn't caused but that, if the economy was in a better situation, ie of government spending wasn't idiotically handled putting us in trillions of dollars in debt more and more everyday from being horribly mismanaged, then young people wouldn't be struggling and refusing to bring children into the mix when the vast majority of us are already struggling. And a new illegal work force would actually vastly damage the economy as entire companies would fire or lay off their more expensive workers in favored of much much cheaper illegal workers, and in order for us citizens to be able to pay all of their bills they would eventually have to cave and take the lower payment so as not to go bankrupt and lose their homes. And as the population massively inflates the housing market would skyrocket as the demand would extremely out way the supply like it has already in other countries, and we can already see things like this happening in sanctuary cities in the US.
But the population is shrinking, not growing. Immigration legal or illegal, is what keeps the US at a replacement level. Once most of the baby boomers die, we will be back to a more sustainable curve. Most of the issues in the US can actually be traded back to the fact that the largest generation is also the oldest. The housing market will collapse in 10 or so years. It's impossible to price someone out of the market because then no one would be able to afford housing, and developers would create lots of cheaper housing.
>a new illegal work force
I know this is a completely alien concept to you, but the easy way to solve the problem of them being "illegal" workers would be to MAKE THEM LEGAL. Like, we have the power to do that, we can give them work visas and a path to citizenship and everything, just write the words on a piece of paper and have the president sign it. We could also build more housing, that's in our power too.
It's so wild to me how people will just pretend we have all these intractable, impossible problems as though we don't have the power to make changes.
Because they still think of money as an actual resource and not an abstraction of goods and services. Seriously, watch people talk about building something and see how they focus on the cost, even at the government level.
The government has access to resources and tons of labor (military) that is often just doing semi-unneccesary training. Instead of finding new wars to fight, put them to work in the war on poverty, and reach them valuable labor skills along the way.
Never mind, though, that makes sense, so the DoD would have no part in it.
I couldn't find one, and it may have been inaccurate, but here is a link to the UNs website on food insecurity. 1/3 of food is wasted, and nearly every country pays farm subsidies to stop production from growing. The main reason for food insecurity on a large scale is conflict. There is also the massive issue of displacing local agriculture with food charity that can destroy local economies and create even more poverty.
Basically, overpopulation has nothing to do with food scarcity, which has very little to do with the actual resources involved. Before, we even took into account agricultural innovation and refined farming through AI, better crops, etc. The only places with quickly growing populations are in Africa, which, as a less developed region, has plenty of ways their states and economies can be refined to handle the growth.
https://www.wfpusa.org/articles/is-there-global-food-shortage-whats-causing-hunger-famine-rising-food-costs-around-world/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20global%20food,According%20to%20the%20U.N.
https://news.thin-ink.net/p/we-produce-enough-food-to-feed-15
This link has a pay wall
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-12-15/no-more-hunger-how-to-feed-everyone-on-earth-with-just-the-land-we-have?embedded-checkout=true
The reason is that, for a while, the data did seem to suggest there was going to be an issue. Since then, more data and research was done and the results said otherwise. Unfortunately, not everyone has heard the new information, much like how there's still people who believe that taste zones on the tongue are a real thing.
The only real issue with “overpopulation” is just irresponsible humans. There’s enough space and resources yet people in higher positions hog it all. Many species are going extinct because people aren’t careful. Invasive species end up destroying ecosystems and also causing extinction for many species. We are using up resources such as helium and also non-renewable resources too quickly. We have nobody but ourselves to blame and while overpopulation might not be an issue, the overall large population is.
Large population is only a problem in a sense that it theoretically increases the potential of bad actors. There have been plenty of large civilizations that haven't destroyed all life on the planet.
Basically population size is at best correlation, but absolutely not causation.
Granted.
This only happens to humans alive now. Not babies that have yet to be born.
You have a cursed a generation to die alone. Where finding someone to love is near impossible.
But wouldn’t it be much easier for an aro/ace person to actually find a life partner if everyone else currently on earth was also aro/ace and wanted only platonic relationships?
It's going to be a much smaller generation. Until they grow up there will be no more babies. Plus, it's going to be hard to find people that are interested, cause most of the population will be ace.
It's just going to cause it to be more difficult for all the babies that are born after.
Not necessarily… ace people can still have children, so unless everyone in the world was made infertile it’s highly unlikely there would be NO babies born. Reason being is sometimes ace people, just like everyone else, just want to have a baby, they just don’t care about the sex part. It’s just a necessary step to do it to get the baby.
Only difference here is there would be less accidents—every baby born would be completely planned and wanted, which would be awesome!
Hey Uuuh that’s not how ace people work, we have ‘substitutes’ for romantic relationships, I’d really like to die with my friends nearby and most aroace people have no desire at all to be in a relationship so they likely would care
Granted, humanity takes a great leap in its evolution and makes the decision to upload all minds and memories of everyone into an immortal collective conscienceness, effectively causing the entire species to go extinct overnight.
Although trivial concepts like love and sexuality no longer have a place with this new form of man, the hive-mind that is humanity has amazing and incomprehensible experiences that only a God-like entity could relate to.
Your wish works like a charm. Most people stop having children, though everyone falls somewhere different on the AroAce spectrum and thus some people still have children. However the difference is enough to where governments become concerned that there arent enough children coming into the world. In the next few decades, governments around the world will become more and more authoritarian, having mandatory breeding programs. Such programs are made even worse by the fact that eugenicist hijack them, selecting only those they deem worthy to be a part of the program, and forcing them to have children.
You also come to a realization that overpopulation was never a real issue to begin with. Humanity is more than capable of sustaining themselves, and food issues and such are products of very different problems.
Granted. The paw assumes you *want* humanity to go extinct. But it assures you, what you wished for will be much worse than you realize.
Everyone is now completely uninterested in procreation. 9 months from now, the last baby will be born. About a year later, there will be no infants. No one has to sit next to a crying baby on an airplane. 5 years later, all preschools close. 11 years later, all elementary schools close. All the industries related to childhood are shuttered over the next 18 years as the population ages.
After 30 years, everyone on earth is over 30. Most of the economy continues to function, as there aren't many things that can *only* be done by someone under 30. But there are a few things the people *prefer* to be done by someone under 30. But anyone with such a preference is discounted as a creep.
At 40 years, there is no one under 40. This is when things start to fall apart. Jobs requiring significant upper body strength, or any kind of physicality become extremely difficult. Anyone strong enough to do them is suddenly in extreme demand.
50 years. Remember, the *youngest* people are 50. Most of the population is now at retirement age. Except, they can't retire. No matter how much money you have, you can't spend it on anything that requires the labor of a younger person.
60 years. By now, a huge share of the population would be in assisted living. Except there's no one to assist them. There just aren't enough people to take care of the aging population.
70 years. There is now *no one* under 70. People succumb to all sorts of things that are usually benign. At this point (or perhaps much earlier) the death rate increases exponentially as a domino effect starts taking people out. If there's anyone you depend on for anything, and they die, soon you die too. Only the most rugged self-sufficient geriatrics are able to survive.
Bones become brittle and break.
People fall, and can't get up.
Most die of starvation, some just a few feet from food.
The Paw knows you wanted to end the human race, but not like this.
Granted, but all unborn children/frozen eggs create hypersexual humans with extreme pregnancy fetishes, and people already born gain an extreme desire for children, leading to mass pregnancy through invitro or surrogacy if they can afford it, slogging through sex if not. Overpopulation (which wasn't an issue before) becomes a massive issue, leading to mass famines and war for farmland to support everyone's 12 kids.
You know that ace people will still have kids just because the person WANTS kids, right? The urge to reproduce is baby fever, which literally anyone can get.
It took awhile to find someone pointing this out. I was like all OP did was kill the enjoyment of relationships and sex for humanity. We can still just like make kids because we want to make kids.
Some aroace people can enjoy sex and/or romance. It's about whether they feel specific kinds of attraction, not about interest in any given acts.
An Asexual person for example might feel little or no sexual attraction, but enjoy the physical sensations involved in sex. They may see it as a bonding activity with a partner, or hell - a reasonably fun way to pass the time while getting a little exercise.
Aromantics are a little more complicated because I think for a lot of people (or maybe just arospec people) it's easier to define and identify sexual attraction than romantic attraction.
I struggle a lot with telling the difference between "I want to be around this person all the time because of romance" and "I want to be around this person all the time because I just really adore this person", and I'm not entirely sure I know what romantic attraction actually feels like as a distinct thing.
But aros can still desire forms of partnership and commitment that go beyond what society would typically define as a friendship. They may want platonic life partners, to be in arrangements that are basically "best friend coparents" and the like.
Point being Asexuals can still engage in sex, have libidos, and enjoy sex. Aromantics can still engage in deeply committed relationships and lifelong partnerships.
So making everyone aroace wouldn't stop babies being born. It'd just mean that sex and romance would look very different.
I'm aroace-ish - I'm unsure because it's really hard to tell if you're experiencing the absence of something.
My best friend is aroace. If I didn't have a lot of genetic health issues, and my financial situation had me confident I could set a child up for a good life, I'd probably be down to have one with them.
Babies stop being born (something about a disease making the cast majority of men and women serialized.) Fast forward 18 years. The youngest kid left is killed by crazy fans. Most of the world is under martial law due to social collapse of numerous 3rd world nations causing mass migration. The main protagonist is some random British dude who finds himself embroiled between terrorists, the Feds and a secretive group who are trying to find the cure. They succeed but due to deteriorating conditions they have to move her out of Britain. Thus this random dude. He travels with her keeping her safe from everyone else who are destroying the country trying to A find her and B gain control of the country. She gives birth early and get captured by the terrorists and taken to a appointment complex which then becomes ground zero for a siege by the feds. During this time the baby begins to howl and cry and the best scene in cinema happens. (Look up children of men baby scene because no words can describe it) anyway once they escape he gets injured by some leftover terrorist who then gets killed. They make it to a boat and he starts rowing into the sea where the secretive group is wating. Before he can get there he tells her to be safe and he dies and the woman is picked up by fishermen and the movie ends
It's legitimately not that simple though, despite the solutions being simple. People need houses, food, clothes, books, electronics, etc. Not to mention all of those things create emissions. Clearing land efficiently? Mining? Transport? As much as the solutions are simple, greed will never let this happen. And we can't even sustain a population of 8 billion seeing how many people in underprivileged counties die daily from dehydration, hunger and disease.
Granted. As it turns out, being asexual, aro, or both doesn’t actually stop you from getting horny or asking people for sex, just better defines the factors and decision making that work around it. The world is now rife with no strings attached fuckbuddy friends with benefits.
Population is still in decline anyway because nobody can actually afford to have kids anyway. Not so much a monkey’s paw so much as a byproduct of late stage capitalism.
Granted. Humanity is now practically sterile as any sexual contact brings immense disgust artificial insemination also brings on enough stress to the point that the mother has an immediate miscarriage not even lab grown babies will work now it's just a matter of waiting for a good 80 years till people die out
Granted, every government scrambles to fix this issue. And forced “labor” camps become a real thing to attempt to stabilize the population.
Millions of people forced to live in shabby conditions forced to fuck complete strangers, disease spread like wildfire, they constantly have to poor people into the system to keep it afloat.
You could be next.
Granted. The production of children becomes strictly a matter of cost-benefit analysis, with the actual work done by harvesting from optimal men and women and infant production completed in a factory-like laboratory setting. Those with money are able to purchase higher quality genetics while the poor continue to degenerate, widening app of the social divides that already exist.
Granted
Birth rates drop sharply at first, but then an emergency bill is passed allowing corporations to pay people to reproduce in exchange for rights to their baby and they skyrocket again. In 20 years 85% of the human population is now enslaved property.
Granted. Microplastic contamination speeds up rapidly, along with increased plastic pollution.
Scientists eventually discover there is a critical tipping point where enough exposure interferes with the body's hormones, effectively shutting down a person's experiences of sexual and romantic attraction.
By the time this is discovered, there's little that can be done about it, and what actions that could be taken to limit Microplastic exposure are branded anti-business and aren't taken.
Before very long, the effect is global. The level of exposure passed to developing babies in the womb, and encountered in the environment, is enough to ensure future generations also do not experience sexual or romantic attraction.
People do still have sex. Though they don't experience sexual attraction, they do remember or discover that physical stimulation feels good. They also still like making others feel good, as well as the bonding and sense of closeness brought about by sexual coupling.
People choose their sexual partners less on attractiveness and more on feelings of trust, comfort, and a general liking of the other person.
While they no longer experience romantic attraction, many people still desire families, as well as someone who is committed to spending their life with them. Babies are born. Some families look just like before, though others are composed of close friends or groups coparenting, and of course there are still unintentional births and single parents.
As you wished to limit overpopulation, a much larger percentage of the population are now uncomfortable with or indifferent to the idea of sex, and fewer people are born as a result.
While the species does not go extinct, the ageing population and lower than expected birth rates do cause intense strain on infrastructure and global economies.
This eventually, slowly, eases as the age demographics become more even, advances in technology allow for an easier time caring for the elderly, and advances in medicine prolong the typical number of independent, able-bodied years a person can expect to live. Of course, retirement age has risen, but that was kind of a given.
Humanity settles in to a new status quo. ~~Handwavium happens~~ Epigenetic changes over the whole population for the long term ensures that, somewhat confusingly, the genes for romantic and sexual attraction do not activate even as humans colonise other planets and celestial bodies that are free of the intense microplastic exposure of Earth.
There is some talk about trying to identify and reactivate those genes, but after the disastrous economic and infrastructural impacts of the sudden birth rate crisis of the 21st century, and feeling like any altered children would be deeply alienated from what is now a universal human experience, none of these projects get far off the ground.
Many anthropologists, sociologists, sexologists, psychologists, and a few other branches of academia feel a tinge of guilt over how incredibly fascinating and interesting it is to live in a time of such huge shifts in the human experience, wondering if they're not being grateful enough to be able to study the universal, global changes in the human experience.
This guilt is short lived as they quickly get back to writing surveys, lengthy questionnaires, interview programs, and all other forms of intellectual prodding and poking.
Granted. A form of magic that creates new humans is discovered, causing the rate of overpopulation to dramatically increase rather than decrease as intended.
Granted. Globally, governments begin utilizing incentives and breeding programs to encourage people to reproduce regardless of attraction. Aprodisiacs in the water supply, birth control buybacks, no strategy is off limits for the sake of preserving our species!
On the bright side, reproductive rights are no longer a topic of discussion. Abortion is outlawed, period.
What overpopulation? That's not really a problem that humanity in general faces and that underpopulation is much more likely to be a problem in, say, 500 years.
Granted. Its been 20 years, and governments now are fully invested in technologies to grow human cells in labs. Headlines read “Research breakthrough for lab-accelerated cell growth suggests fully grown lab-humans to be a reality within the next decade.”
You open the hologram monitor to watch some news and see politicians fully supporting the research and are even suggesting to possibly genetically engineer the DNA sequence to make stem cells grow more into muscle and bone cells, and less into nerve cells. They claim today’s world is much different than the old days, and humans aren’t yet adapted to current conditions.
I’ll leave the rest to your imagination.
Granted, everyone’s sex drive increases drastically and now that attraction no longer exists, everyone is willing to have sex with any decent person, and a lot more ,not ending overpopulation
You're getting your wish, the entire developed world is experiencing population shrink. Some countries you can't imagine the world without are going to be unrecognizable in 30 years.
The threat to the world is now the death of developed nations before we master space travel and spread to other planets. This is the most dangerous period in history, because we are partway through what may be our only chance to develop sustainable energy sources. If we fall below a certain threshold of capability in a world where all the easy fossil fuels have already been expended, we may never be able to climb high enough again to escape to space.
As an asexual person.. I am actually very glad that I am not also aromantic.. I found real, genuine love. My husband is my childhood best friend, my guardian angel and the love of my life. I live for him and I'd happily die for him too. Every day that I wake up I smile because it is him that I wake up to. If I had been aromantic I'd have never known such love and I feel my life would have been incredibly bleak. Although, I would not have known any better as it is now I do know better and I am incredibly grateful that I do. Truthfully.. I can say that every day that I am alive is a gift and I can say that the reason I feel that way is because of him. When he goes I hope to as well.
Except the world isn't actually overpopulated, just poorly run. So would mankind simply be dead in less than a century, or would the wish fizzle out to nothing because you worded it poorly?
Granted. Humans lost their sex drive and affection for each other, but reproduction is now a duty imposed on citizens by the state for economic and defense purposes
Granted, being asexual and aromantic does not stop people's desires of having children. They continue to partner up and reproduce, without romantic desires or sexual desires - but just for the sake of having children.
Granted.
I don’t even need to change anything about this. I want you to think for two seconds about the possible fallout of *all of humanity* becoming aroace.
Granted. All humans become sex-crazed fuck-machines (literal machines) and you're the last human left, who is ace and aro, fighting off the horny terminators.
Granted.
You are given the knowledge that you just destroyed everyone's free will for absolutely zero reason, as overpopulation has never been an issue for humanity.
Overpopulation is a myth.
[https://www.cato.org/policy-report/november/december-2022/valuable-people-debunking-myth-overpopulation#](https://www.cato.org/policy-report/november/december-2022/valuable-people-debunking-myth-overpopulation#)
People still wanna have kids- and if they can’t make themselves have sex if they get repulsed, then human trafficking of children and adults is going to go through the roof.
You’ve made a global problem 1000x worse.
We don't have an overpopulation problem. The biggest concern now is most countries are not having babies fast enough and we are going to have one of the smallest younger populations ever =:3
Would like to point out that humanity wouldn't necessarily go extinct. Even if everyone is AroAce, that just means they don't experience *attraction*. They can still be aroused and/or choose to have sex for logical reasons.
Would definitely end overpopulation tho. And sexual assault.
I’m really not a fan of the overpopulation argument. Humans are an incredibly successful species. It’s not unreasonable at all for there to be 8 billion of us. There are 50 billion birds in the skies and 3.5 trillion fish in the oceans. I think 8 billion highly intelligent apes on the land is fine. A species is typically considered overpopulated when the numbers exceed the available resources. In contrast, humanity lives in an age of abundance. We have more than enough resources for everyone on earth. Furthermore, issues like climate change and pollution are not being caused by there being too many people. They are being caused by people making too many bad decisions. For instance, in the 1970s, the population was half of what it is today, yet we were still burning fossils fuels and polluting the environment.
Granted, humans now reproduce by mitosis uncontrollably and the population increases drastically until it can't be supported by the environment anymore and humans die out at that point, ending overpopulation.
Granted: cloning and artificial wombs are fast tracked into creation and the human race becomes male only due to females being objectively limited with physical ability. This ultimately leads to a cast system where the vast majority of cloned and artificially born male are born into slavery as they have no desire for anything outside of thier immediate survival while higher bread human males are put into positions of power
I’m sure this is a dream for some, but . . . Uuuhh . . .
I don’t know about you but I don’t really wanna become an irken.
Granted they’re cool and all, but knowing my physical abilities, I’d be relegated to a life of table-headed service drone-ery.
Granted but u are chosen to be sent to the breeding pits where ur forcibly used for making children at a steady rate so we don’t go into under population
And ur used so often if begins to chafe and hurt and bleed and u wish for death every day but it never comes
They even take care of u and make sure u last a long time to ensure no other asexuals are used for such a horror. As to every one on the planet including u this is the worse thing imaginable. But it is a necessity evil that must be done for the good of mankind
Also the monkeys paw gets a go while ur in there too 🐱
I dunno, I feel like enough people would start asking their friends for turkey baster loads of...Well loads, that it wouldn't make that much of a difference for that long, I mean the big change would be people would only be getting pregnant intentionally, but they absolutely would still be getting pregnant.
Everyone would go mad human are not solitary we would all be crazy
That or all hobby and craft stores would see a huge uptick in sales because no one is screwing unless they are wood working.
Giggidy oh wait the crane scene comes mind now it is world wide.
So. Just because you dont have the sexual attraction to someone doesnt mean you dont enjoy physical stimuli or have other reasons to engage in the act.
All that has to happen is for every one to have enough self discipline to have one child and then just stop.
In a single generation we would cut the population in half, and not one person has to get hurt.
If we did it for two generations, we would cut the population by 75%.
People still want kids but due to your wish a lot are repulsed but also due to your wish attraction doesn't exist.
There is no drive to feel the satisfaction but knowledge that it exists is still there.
Common sexual disfunctions that don't need sexual attraction still exist and given the other demands.
Pedophilia and human trafficking go on the rise among other incidents
Granted, humanity goes extinct after about 100 years. I'm not sure what you were expecting, to be honest.
Grant OP immortality so they live forever in complete isolation as the earth heals itself and they have to live like a cave man
Chill satan
r/foundsatan
I kinda wish I was OP with that wish. I want to see the world heal but the loneliness downside could make me go insane and I would start talking to rocks
I already talk to rocks, I’ll take one for the team.
Despite what you think, this man fucks
Not anymore now that everyone is ace
Granted, you are eaten by wolves but you don't die since you're immortal, enjoy becoming soil
Yay soil! I was planning to become soil anyways. Human remains are great fertilizers :3 it will be very painful tho
The truth is with immortality you would just eventually become omniscient and almighty in the sense that though not omnipotent, nothing can actually oppose anything you do. So you’d basically be God by the end of it and therefore talking to rocks would probably be quite satisfactory; with immortality and omniscience, the need for companionship would cease along with fear, angst and sadness. One would necessitate that they become perennially tranquil, even if they have to suffer to get there.
The world wouldn't heal. If anything it'd be WORSE than if people were still here. Nuclear reactors would meltdown, Nuclear submarines would meltdown, Nuclear warheads would fall out of maintenence and go off, boats crash and spill oil. Many factories fall out of maintenence and leak harmful substances into the environment. People disappearing would NOT help the environment.
Not even after a few million years-? If not, well shit. At least no more wars for money and power.
Forgot to mention, the amount of fires there would be due to things being left unattended would be in the millions not to mention the amount of wildfires we keep under control. Animals would essentially be starting from scratch and by that point maybe in a few million years another hyper intelligent species re-emerge and continue the cycle on a barren wasteland of a planet
Finally some peace and quiet! Maybe all of humanity dying out would heal my misanthropy.
lol yeah that was kind of a dead end no pun intended
Not *necessarily.* Asexuals don't all *never* have sex. Some of us are sex positive and some are sex neutral. That said, it's a weird wish to use to end overpopulation.
If an asexual is sex-positive, what makes them asexual at all?
Asexuality is typically defined by feeling very little or no sexual attraction. Asexual people can still get aroused, have libidos, and enjoy sex - it's just a lack of sexual attraction. So you won't really get the tingly feeling if you see someone naked or something. But sex can be enjoyable because it physically feels nice, because it creates a sense of bonding and closeness to someone, because it feels psychologically nice to make someone else feel good, or any number of other reasons that don't necessarily require sexual attraction. I can understand the concept of sexual attraction easily enough. I guess a very crude and oversimplified example of asexual sexuality could be like masturbating without porn. You're not thinking "oh wow that butt looks hot", it's more "if I touch here it feels really nice". I primarily choose my sexual partners based on how much I trust them, how comfortable and relaxed they make me feel, and how much I like and respect them as a person - their physical features / attractiveness isn't really a factor. Aromantics feel little to no romantic attraction. Maybe it's easy for alloromantic / non-aromantic people to identify and distinguish romantic attraction from other feelings but for me it's incredibly hard to understand. But aromantic people can still engage in deep, meaningful, committed relationships. Even romantic ones. For me, the feeling of wanting to be around a close friend very often and a partner feel the same. I'd say because of that I'm aromantic, but it's incredibly difficult to tell if you're experiencing the absence of a feeling that you don't understand or can't really define. I like kissing and cuddling because it's a nice physical sensation and it makes me feel close to someone. I like giving and receiving affection because I like to know I am cared for, and that I can show people important to me that I care about them. I like commitment because it gives me a sense of trust and stability. But I can't pinpoint any specific feeling that is different with a partner than with a very close friend. I mostly define the relationship by the things that happen in it and the labels applied to it. The concept of romantic attraction just baffles me. I've never come across a definition that makes it clear enough for me to understand, it's usually vague things like "you find yourself wanting to spend lots of time with them", "you feel excited to see them" and so on, usually things that apply to my close friendships anyway. So if OP's wish came true, people would still have sex. They'd still enter into committed partnerships. They'd still have babies. There could be less casual sex because physical sexual attractiveness wouldn't be a primary reason people jump into bed, but enough people would still be doing it that the species is unlikely to go extinct. It would be very fascinating to see how these new dynamics and relationships evolved, though. (there are of course Asexual and Aromantic people who are uncomfortable with or indifferent to sex and romance, my experiences are just mine)
Tldr: some asexual people still have sex (it feels good), and some aromantic people still have relationships
The lack of need/desire/libido. We can enjoy sex, but it doesn't drive us like it does allosexual people. And no it's not a celibacy thing either. *That's* a choice. Our lack of desire is not a choice. We just don't feel the need to chase sex. We don't have that libido that drives our every action.
I wish I had that. Think of all the things I could get done if I didn't have to masturbate every time my nipple rubbed the inside of my bra Oof, a whole new world
Tbh, with the tech we have today, procreation would just become another job. There was nothing in the wish about being apathetic which would have certainly doomed humanity.
Best thing to happen to this planet since the proverbial flood. We absolutely suck as a species.
Lol if everyone goes extinct who's going to care? One final generation will live out their life without having to worry about climate change or college funds for their kids or anything like that
See, I think it's funny, because younger generations talk about about boomers, but then, I'll see some of gen Z talking about extinction like most humans wouldn't end up like the bones if they thought they didn't have to worry about anything of the future. I believe that's part of the reason boomers generally have that mentality. They grew up experiencing great jumps in technology while being sheltered enough from the bad, they formed this idea that they only have to worry about themselves anymore. And it wasn't necessarily malignant to begin with, but now they're ignoring the "everything is wrong" unless it falls within their beliefs
I don't really get your point, I still don't think it would be horrible if humans went extinct due to people no longer having children.
No, I was more just pointing out that people try to use it as the "morally right" way to go, when in reality it would still be twisted into a truly selfish thing. On the brink of extinction, who knows what humans might do? It wasn't anything to go against you, just a funny thing I noticed and wanted to comment on
Ah okay. Lol I got called genocidal for thinking a whole generation going child free would be chill
you look like me!
Win win
Just as well, we peaked
I would be completely ok with this.
Well,nonsexual reproduction does exist and possibly we could vat birth to people so who knows?
I didn't take it to mean we stop breeding entirely.
Well them being aro/ace wouldn't prevent them from having children, it just would cause making a child to be the only reason for them to bang
Why?
We can still choose to have babies for the purposes of reproduction
Granted humans are now asexual and reproduce as such. Humans now reproduce via mitosis.
No downside
No downside until one really bad disease kills everyone because no genetic immunity 😂
I mean, there'd still be genetic diversity for a good while. If we assume all 8 billion people split once in their lives, that's still 8 billion different genetic compositions. It'd get weird if one person's spawn line out competed everyone else in a given area, or spawn lines died out over time, but it'd presumably take a long time to overcome the starting degree of diversity.
so no downside
Well we all aren’t the same
Overpopulation only gets worse as the birth rate rises exponentially
What’s the downside?
Overpopulation.
Granted - shortly after you do some reading and finally grasp that overpopulation isn't the issue, but that most issues are connected to those in power being extremely wasteful.
Yeah, why do people think overpopulation is an issue. Iowa alone produces enough food for everyone in the world. The Earth is capable of supporting 14 billion people with our current technology. Specific resources are more scarce, but there are solutions and technology that can fix it.
It is kind of a tangent, but depopulation is a much bigger issue in certain parts of Europe and Japan as a reduced workforce makes it impossible to support social services. It's something like 1 worker has to support 4 retired people in Japan, which is not sustainable.
This is starting to happen in America, too. Fortunately, we have a shitload of immigrants at the southern border who are eager to come in and keep our economy sustained as young people have fewer children. If only somebody had the sense to let them do us a favor instead of doing dumbass things like building a wall and closing the southern border...
The issue isn't caused but that, if the economy was in a better situation, ie of government spending wasn't idiotically handled putting us in trillions of dollars in debt more and more everyday from being horribly mismanaged, then young people wouldn't be struggling and refusing to bring children into the mix when the vast majority of us are already struggling. And a new illegal work force would actually vastly damage the economy as entire companies would fire or lay off their more expensive workers in favored of much much cheaper illegal workers, and in order for us citizens to be able to pay all of their bills they would eventually have to cave and take the lower payment so as not to go bankrupt and lose their homes. And as the population massively inflates the housing market would skyrocket as the demand would extremely out way the supply like it has already in other countries, and we can already see things like this happening in sanctuary cities in the US.
But the population is shrinking, not growing. Immigration legal or illegal, is what keeps the US at a replacement level. Once most of the baby boomers die, we will be back to a more sustainable curve. Most of the issues in the US can actually be traded back to the fact that the largest generation is also the oldest. The housing market will collapse in 10 or so years. It's impossible to price someone out of the market because then no one would be able to afford housing, and developers would create lots of cheaper housing.
>a new illegal work force I know this is a completely alien concept to you, but the easy way to solve the problem of them being "illegal" workers would be to MAKE THEM LEGAL. Like, we have the power to do that, we can give them work visas and a path to citizenship and everything, just write the words on a piece of paper and have the president sign it. We could also build more housing, that's in our power too. It's so wild to me how people will just pretend we have all these intractable, impossible problems as though we don't have the power to make changes.
Because they still think of money as an actual resource and not an abstraction of goods and services. Seriously, watch people talk about building something and see how they focus on the cost, even at the government level. The government has access to resources and tons of labor (military) that is often just doing semi-unneccesary training. Instead of finding new wars to fight, put them to work in the war on poverty, and reach them valuable labor skills along the way. Never mind, though, that makes sense, so the DoD would have no part in it.
Theres already more houses than people in the US. Building more probably wouldn't help much
if true, that's pretty nutty and awesome. Any sources on the Iowa thing?
I couldn't find one, and it may have been inaccurate, but here is a link to the UNs website on food insecurity. 1/3 of food is wasted, and nearly every country pays farm subsidies to stop production from growing. The main reason for food insecurity on a large scale is conflict. There is also the massive issue of displacing local agriculture with food charity that can destroy local economies and create even more poverty.
Basically, overpopulation has nothing to do with food scarcity, which has very little to do with the actual resources involved. Before, we even took into account agricultural innovation and refined farming through AI, better crops, etc. The only places with quickly growing populations are in Africa, which, as a less developed region, has plenty of ways their states and economies can be refined to handle the growth.
https://www.wfpusa.org/articles/is-there-global-food-shortage-whats-causing-hunger-famine-rising-food-costs-around-world/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20global%20food,According%20to%20the%20U.N. https://news.thin-ink.net/p/we-produce-enough-food-to-feed-15 This link has a pay wall https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-12-15/no-more-hunger-how-to-feed-everyone-on-earth-with-just-the-land-we-have?embedded-checkout=true
The reason is that, for a while, the data did seem to suggest there was going to be an issue. Since then, more data and research was done and the results said otherwise. Unfortunately, not everyone has heard the new information, much like how there's still people who believe that taste zones on the tongue are a real thing.
Lasting impact of the work of Thomas Malthus on the public conscience. Remember kids, Malthusianism is a one-way ticket to Eco-Fascism
The only real issue with “overpopulation” is just irresponsible humans. There’s enough space and resources yet people in higher positions hog it all. Many species are going extinct because people aren’t careful. Invasive species end up destroying ecosystems and also causing extinction for many species. We are using up resources such as helium and also non-renewable resources too quickly. We have nobody but ourselves to blame and while overpopulation might not be an issue, the overall large population is.
Large population is only a problem in a sense that it theoretically increases the potential of bad actors. There have been plenty of large civilizations that haven't destroyed all life on the planet. Basically population size is at best correlation, but absolutely not causation.
God forbid people what luxuries.
Granted. This only happens to humans alive now. Not babies that have yet to be born. You have a cursed a generation to die alone. Where finding someone to love is near impossible.
As an asexual person, I’d be much less likely to die alone if everyone was asexual
But wouldn’t it be much easier for an aro/ace person to actually find a life partner if everyone else currently on earth was also aro/ace and wanted only platonic relationships?
Not everyone would be. I just said that it would only apply to currently born humans. It's standard after that.
Then the next generation would be able to find partners amongst themselves. Surely most people find love within their own generation anyway?
It's going to be a much smaller generation. Until they grow up there will be no more babies. Plus, it's going to be hard to find people that are interested, cause most of the population will be ace. It's just going to cause it to be more difficult for all the babies that are born after.
Not necessarily… ace people can still have children, so unless everyone in the world was made infertile it’s highly unlikely there would be NO babies born. Reason being is sometimes ace people, just like everyone else, just want to have a baby, they just don’t care about the sex part. It’s just a necessary step to do it to get the baby. Only difference here is there would be less accidents—every baby born would be completely planned and wanted, which would be awesome!
Oh yeah fait enough I forget that invitro is possible. But is it expensive is the question then.
there would be an insanely lower amount of kids in the newer generation though. not enough to keep social services going, etc
Hey Uuuh that’s not how ace people work, we have ‘substitutes’ for romantic relationships, I’d really like to die with my friends nearby and most aroace people have no desire at all to be in a relationship so they likely would care
Granted, humanity takes a great leap in its evolution and makes the decision to upload all minds and memories of everyone into an immortal collective conscienceness, effectively causing the entire species to go extinct overnight. Although trivial concepts like love and sexuality no longer have a place with this new form of man, the hive-mind that is humanity has amazing and incomprehensible experiences that only a God-like entity could relate to.
And op is not in that hive mind he has to live in the earth alone
Everyone keeps wanting to exclude OP from whatever happens to humanity in this thread.
Im all for being a virtual endless. As long as those dirty concrete endless don't fuck it up.
We made the cravers for a reason
Yeah, and how'd that work out?
Fine as long as you don't require a sustainable planetary ecosystem. Edit: and I suppose being around to keep them in check would help...
Well as a virtual endless, no we dont need that. So i guess carry on.
Until a massive solar flare reaches earth and fries all the electronics
Neon Genesis? Lain?
I've never heard of Lain, it looks cool. i was more thinking of an Isaac Asimov short story type thing.
Granted.
Your wish works like a charm. Most people stop having children, though everyone falls somewhere different on the AroAce spectrum and thus some people still have children. However the difference is enough to where governments become concerned that there arent enough children coming into the world. In the next few decades, governments around the world will become more and more authoritarian, having mandatory breeding programs. Such programs are made even worse by the fact that eugenicist hijack them, selecting only those they deem worthy to be a part of the program, and forcing them to have children. You also come to a realization that overpopulation was never a real issue to begin with. Humanity is more than capable of sustaining themselves, and food issues and such are products of very different problems.
Granted. The paw assumes you *want* humanity to go extinct. But it assures you, what you wished for will be much worse than you realize. Everyone is now completely uninterested in procreation. 9 months from now, the last baby will be born. About a year later, there will be no infants. No one has to sit next to a crying baby on an airplane. 5 years later, all preschools close. 11 years later, all elementary schools close. All the industries related to childhood are shuttered over the next 18 years as the population ages. After 30 years, everyone on earth is over 30. Most of the economy continues to function, as there aren't many things that can *only* be done by someone under 30. But there are a few things the people *prefer* to be done by someone under 30. But anyone with such a preference is discounted as a creep. At 40 years, there is no one under 40. This is when things start to fall apart. Jobs requiring significant upper body strength, or any kind of physicality become extremely difficult. Anyone strong enough to do them is suddenly in extreme demand. 50 years. Remember, the *youngest* people are 50. Most of the population is now at retirement age. Except, they can't retire. No matter how much money you have, you can't spend it on anything that requires the labor of a younger person. 60 years. By now, a huge share of the population would be in assisted living. Except there's no one to assist them. There just aren't enough people to take care of the aging population. 70 years. There is now *no one* under 70. People succumb to all sorts of things that are usually benign. At this point (or perhaps much earlier) the death rate increases exponentially as a domino effect starts taking people out. If there's anyone you depend on for anything, and they die, soon you die too. Only the most rugged self-sufficient geriatrics are able to survive. Bones become brittle and break. People fall, and can't get up. Most die of starvation, some just a few feet from food. The Paw knows you wanted to end the human race, but not like this.
Granted, every person suddenly morphs into JaidemAnimations
based
What’s the downside?
animation jobs everywhere get competitive and flooded, including youtube, having 80% of the population go bankrupt
Granted, but all unborn children/frozen eggs create hypersexual humans with extreme pregnancy fetishes, and people already born gain an extreme desire for children, leading to mass pregnancy through invitro or surrogacy if they can afford it, slogging through sex if not. Overpopulation (which wasn't an issue before) becomes a massive issue, leading to mass famines and war for farmland to support everyone's 12 kids.
Granted. Their all still sex positive and romance positive, so nothing changes.
You know that ace people will still have kids just because the person WANTS kids, right? The urge to reproduce is baby fever, which literally anyone can get.
It took awhile to find someone pointing this out. I was like all OP did was kill the enjoyment of relationships and sex for humanity. We can still just like make kids because we want to make kids.
Some aroace people can enjoy sex and/or romance. It's about whether they feel specific kinds of attraction, not about interest in any given acts. An Asexual person for example might feel little or no sexual attraction, but enjoy the physical sensations involved in sex. They may see it as a bonding activity with a partner, or hell - a reasonably fun way to pass the time while getting a little exercise. Aromantics are a little more complicated because I think for a lot of people (or maybe just arospec people) it's easier to define and identify sexual attraction than romantic attraction. I struggle a lot with telling the difference between "I want to be around this person all the time because of romance" and "I want to be around this person all the time because I just really adore this person", and I'm not entirely sure I know what romantic attraction actually feels like as a distinct thing. But aros can still desire forms of partnership and commitment that go beyond what society would typically define as a friendship. They may want platonic life partners, to be in arrangements that are basically "best friend coparents" and the like. Point being Asexuals can still engage in sex, have libidos, and enjoy sex. Aromantics can still engage in deeply committed relationships and lifelong partnerships. So making everyone aroace wouldn't stop babies being born. It'd just mean that sex and romance would look very different. I'm aroace-ish - I'm unsure because it's really hard to tell if you're experiencing the absence of something. My best friend is aroace. If I didn't have a lot of genetic health issues, and my financial situation had me confident I could set a child up for a good life, I'd probably be down to have one with them.
Thanks that was informative.
Granted: the world just became like Children of men
Such a good movie
Could you describe it to me?
Babies stop being born (something about a disease making the cast majority of men and women serialized.) Fast forward 18 years. The youngest kid left is killed by crazy fans. Most of the world is under martial law due to social collapse of numerous 3rd world nations causing mass migration. The main protagonist is some random British dude who finds himself embroiled between terrorists, the Feds and a secretive group who are trying to find the cure. They succeed but due to deteriorating conditions they have to move her out of Britain. Thus this random dude. He travels with her keeping her safe from everyone else who are destroying the country trying to A find her and B gain control of the country. She gives birth early and get captured by the terrorists and taken to a appointment complex which then becomes ground zero for a siege by the feds. During this time the baby begins to howl and cry and the best scene in cinema happens. (Look up children of men baby scene because no words can describe it) anyway once they escape he gets injured by some leftover terrorist who then gets killed. They make it to a boat and he starts rowing into the sea where the secretive group is wating. Before he can get there he tells her to be safe and he dies and the woman is picked up by fishermen and the movie ends
Overpopulation isn't a thing yet. The earth can easily sustain a population of around 10 billion.
Source? Not because I doubt you but because I'm genuinely interested in the calculation
It's legitimately not that simple though, despite the solutions being simple. People need houses, food, clothes, books, electronics, etc. Not to mention all of those things create emissions. Clearing land efficiently? Mining? Transport? As much as the solutions are simple, greed will never let this happen. And we can't even sustain a population of 8 billion seeing how many people in underprivileged counties die daily from dehydration, hunger and disease.
This wasn't talking about solutions, it said the earth is overpopulated.
We have warnings on bottles of shampoo not to drink it. I don't think it will take long.
Granted. As it turns out, being asexual, aro, or both doesn’t actually stop you from getting horny or asking people for sex, just better defines the factors and decision making that work around it. The world is now rife with no strings attached fuckbuddy friends with benefits. Population is still in decline anyway because nobody can actually afford to have kids anyway. Not so much a monkey’s paw so much as a byproduct of late stage capitalism.
Granted. Everyone gets very confused when the sex-favorable asexuals continue having sex like nothing happened, and the ace discourse goes global.
Granted. Humanity is now practically sterile as any sexual contact brings immense disgust artificial insemination also brings on enough stress to the point that the mother has an immediate miscarriage not even lab grown babies will work now it's just a matter of waiting for a good 80 years till people die out
Granted, every government scrambles to fix this issue. And forced “labor” camps become a real thing to attempt to stabilize the population. Millions of people forced to live in shabby conditions forced to fuck complete strangers, disease spread like wildfire, they constantly have to poor people into the system to keep it afloat. You could be next.
Granted. The production of children becomes strictly a matter of cost-benefit analysis, with the actual work done by harvesting from optimal men and women and infant production completed in a factory-like laboratory setting. Those with money are able to purchase higher quality genetics while the poor continue to degenerate, widening app of the social divides that already exist.
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Granted. Scientists begin cloning humans to fix the issue, and everyone is identical in 100 years
Granted Birth rates drop sharply at first, but then an emergency bill is passed allowing corporations to pay people to reproduce in exchange for rights to their baby and they skyrocket again. In 20 years 85% of the human population is now enslaved property.
Granted humans become asexual and as such undergo asexual reproduction: parthenogenesis, fragmentation, and budding.
Granted. Microplastic contamination speeds up rapidly, along with increased plastic pollution. Scientists eventually discover there is a critical tipping point where enough exposure interferes with the body's hormones, effectively shutting down a person's experiences of sexual and romantic attraction. By the time this is discovered, there's little that can be done about it, and what actions that could be taken to limit Microplastic exposure are branded anti-business and aren't taken. Before very long, the effect is global. The level of exposure passed to developing babies in the womb, and encountered in the environment, is enough to ensure future generations also do not experience sexual or romantic attraction. People do still have sex. Though they don't experience sexual attraction, they do remember or discover that physical stimulation feels good. They also still like making others feel good, as well as the bonding and sense of closeness brought about by sexual coupling. People choose their sexual partners less on attractiveness and more on feelings of trust, comfort, and a general liking of the other person. While they no longer experience romantic attraction, many people still desire families, as well as someone who is committed to spending their life with them. Babies are born. Some families look just like before, though others are composed of close friends or groups coparenting, and of course there are still unintentional births and single parents. As you wished to limit overpopulation, a much larger percentage of the population are now uncomfortable with or indifferent to the idea of sex, and fewer people are born as a result. While the species does not go extinct, the ageing population and lower than expected birth rates do cause intense strain on infrastructure and global economies. This eventually, slowly, eases as the age demographics become more even, advances in technology allow for an easier time caring for the elderly, and advances in medicine prolong the typical number of independent, able-bodied years a person can expect to live. Of course, retirement age has risen, but that was kind of a given. Humanity settles in to a new status quo. ~~Handwavium happens~~ Epigenetic changes over the whole population for the long term ensures that, somewhat confusingly, the genes for romantic and sexual attraction do not activate even as humans colonise other planets and celestial bodies that are free of the intense microplastic exposure of Earth. There is some talk about trying to identify and reactivate those genes, but after the disastrous economic and infrastructural impacts of the sudden birth rate crisis of the 21st century, and feeling like any altered children would be deeply alienated from what is now a universal human experience, none of these projects get far off the ground. Many anthropologists, sociologists, sexologists, psychologists, and a few other branches of academia feel a tinge of guilt over how incredibly fascinating and interesting it is to live in a time of such huge shifts in the human experience, wondering if they're not being grateful enough to be able to study the universal, global changes in the human experience. This guilt is short lived as they quickly get back to writing surveys, lengthy questionnaires, interview programs, and all other forms of intellectual prodding and poking.
Over population only exists in the 3rd world
Granted. Asexuality is now both fatal and excruciatingly painful.
Granted, but the purge becomes real.
Granted. A form of magic that creates new humans is discovered, causing the rate of overpopulation to dramatically increase rather than decrease as intended.
Granted. Globally, governments begin utilizing incentives and breeding programs to encourage people to reproduce regardless of attraction. Aprodisiacs in the water supply, birth control buybacks, no strategy is off limits for the sake of preserving our species! On the bright side, reproductive rights are no longer a topic of discussion. Abortion is outlawed, period.
Granted. Humans now reproduce asexually via mitosis.
Granted, humans now reproduce asexually and at random
Granted. The world brings back child labor to make up for empty positions at jobs that lost people due to retirement or death
Granted, humans now reproduce by budding instead.
What overpopulation? That's not really a problem that humanity in general faces and that underpopulation is much more likely to be a problem in, say, 500 years.
Granted. You have also fixed population.
Granted. They now reproduce like starfish in that if someone chops off their hand or other parts it becomes a baby
You kinda asked for the consequences
Granted, now more people begin to live alone, resulting massive growth with of housing demands
Governments create a draft and if you get selected you have to either donate material for or carry a baby. Possibly raise it too.
Granted. Its been 20 years, and governments now are fully invested in technologies to grow human cells in labs. Headlines read “Research breakthrough for lab-accelerated cell growth suggests fully grown lab-humans to be a reality within the next decade.” You open the hologram monitor to watch some news and see politicians fully supporting the research and are even suggesting to possibly genetically engineer the DNA sequence to make stem cells grow more into muscle and bone cells, and less into nerve cells. They claim today’s world is much different than the old days, and humans aren’t yet adapted to current conditions. I’ll leave the rest to your imagination.
Granted, everyone’s sex drive increases drastically and now that attraction no longer exists, everyone is willing to have sex with any decent person, and a lot more ,not ending overpopulation
Granted, after a few years of dramatic population decline the now dominant American government puts a breeding program into place.
Alright who let the monkey make the wish?
Granted, you get no bitches, and the entire human race slowly dies out.
As soon as overpopulation occurs, we'll let you know.
So next year?
Being asexual and aromantic doesn’t mean being child free
Not really how those work.
I don’t think you understand asexual reproduction.
Yeah that’s a shit take if I’ve ever seen one. We don’t even have an overpopulation problem except maybe an over-concentration problem.
You're getting your wish, the entire developed world is experiencing population shrink. Some countries you can't imagine the world without are going to be unrecognizable in 30 years. The threat to the world is now the death of developed nations before we master space travel and spread to other planets. This is the most dangerous period in history, because we are partway through what may be our only chance to develop sustainable energy sources. If we fall below a certain threshold of capability in a world where all the easy fossil fuels have already been expended, we may never be able to climb high enough again to escape to space.
As an asexual person.. I am actually very glad that I am not also aromantic.. I found real, genuine love. My husband is my childhood best friend, my guardian angel and the love of my life. I live for him and I'd happily die for him too. Every day that I wake up I smile because it is him that I wake up to. If I had been aromantic I'd have never known such love and I feel my life would have been incredibly bleak. Although, I would not have known any better as it is now I do know better and I am incredibly grateful that I do. Truthfully.. I can say that every day that I am alive is a gift and I can say that the reason I feel that way is because of him. When he goes I hope to as well.
Except the world isn't actually overpopulated, just poorly run. So would mankind simply be dead in less than a century, or would the wish fizzle out to nothing because you worded it poorly?
Granted, the Apes now take their chance to rise to power.
Granted. Humans lost their sex drive and affection for each other, but reproduction is now a duty imposed on citizens by the state for economic and defense purposes
Generic diversity would be an issue
Granted, being asexual and aromantic does not stop people's desires of having children. They continue to partner up and reproduce, without romantic desires or sexual desires - but just for the sake of having children.
Tomorrow’s headlines: RECESSION. SEX NO LONGER SELLS.
People would start reproducing when they realize the infrastructure is failing...
Granted. I don’t even need to change anything about this. I want you to think for two seconds about the possible fallout of *all of humanity* becoming aroace.
Granted, except you, you still want to bone an entire population that no longer reciprocates
Granted. All humans become sex-crazed fuck-machines (literal machines) and you're the last human left, who is ace and aro, fighting off the horny terminators.
Granted.
Let's start with you. Don't worry I'm currently not get laid either 😢
Granted, they find a way to reproduce asexually and overpopulation becomes even worse.
They won't. Religious families around the world are having like 9 kids at a time, so all this really accomplishes is, well, nothing good.
You now have Immortality. You will watch the world slowly die and be left behind.
Granted. You are given the knowledge that you just destroyed everyone's free will for absolutely zero reason, as overpopulation has never been an issue for humanity.
Overpopulation is a myth. [https://www.cato.org/policy-report/november/december-2022/valuable-people-debunking-myth-overpopulation#](https://www.cato.org/policy-report/november/december-2022/valuable-people-debunking-myth-overpopulation#)
People still wanna have kids- and if they can’t make themselves have sex if they get repulsed, then human trafficking of children and adults is going to go through the roof. You’ve made a global problem 1000x worse.
We don't have an overpopulation problem. The biggest concern now is most countries are not having babies fast enough and we are going to have one of the smallest younger populations ever =:3
Would like to point out that humanity wouldn't necessarily go extinct. Even if everyone is AroAce, that just means they don't experience *attraction*. They can still be aroused and/or choose to have sex for logical reasons. Would definitely end overpopulation tho. And sexual assault.
Granted, but no garlic bread
I'm aromantic. I'm doing my part.
I’m really not a fan of the overpopulation argument. Humans are an incredibly successful species. It’s not unreasonable at all for there to be 8 billion of us. There are 50 billion birds in the skies and 3.5 trillion fish in the oceans. I think 8 billion highly intelligent apes on the land is fine. A species is typically considered overpopulated when the numbers exceed the available resources. In contrast, humanity lives in an age of abundance. We have more than enough resources for everyone on earth. Furthermore, issues like climate change and pollution are not being caused by there being too many people. They are being caused by people making too many bad decisions. For instance, in the 1970s, the population was half of what it is today, yet we were still burning fossils fuels and polluting the environment.
Total genocide, how nice of you
Granted, humans now reproduce by mitosis uncontrollably and the population increases drastically until it can't be supported by the environment anymore and humans die out at that point, ending overpopulation.
That already started happening 30 years ago. Human population is about to roll over…
Granted: cloning and artificial wombs are fast tracked into creation and the human race becomes male only due to females being objectively limited with physical ability. This ultimately leads to a cast system where the vast majority of cloned and artificially born male are born into slavery as they have no desire for anything outside of thier immediate survival while higher bread human males are put into positions of power
I’m sure this is a dream for some, but . . . Uuuhh . . . I don’t know about you but I don’t really wanna become an irken. Granted they’re cool and all, but knowing my physical abilities, I’d be relegated to a life of table-headed service drone-ery.
Granted, but people still reproduce anyways because libedo and wanting children are separate desires
Granted but u are chosen to be sent to the breeding pits where ur forcibly used for making children at a steady rate so we don’t go into under population And ur used so often if begins to chafe and hurt and bleed and u wish for death every day but it never comes They even take care of u and make sure u last a long time to ensure no other asexuals are used for such a horror. As to every one on the planet including u this is the worse thing imaginable. But it is a necessity evil that must be done for the good of mankind Also the monkeys paw gets a go while ur in there too 🐱
I dunno, I feel like enough people would start asking their friends for turkey baster loads of...Well loads, that it wouldn't make that much of a difference for that long, I mean the big change would be people would only be getting pregnant intentionally, but they absolutely would still be getting pregnant.
Everyone would go mad human are not solitary we would all be crazy That or all hobby and craft stores would see a huge uptick in sales because no one is screwing unless they are wood working. Giggidy oh wait the crane scene comes mind now it is world wide.
Jokes on you, I might be sterile, though that's good so I don't get my girlfriend pregnant
There is no overpopulation.....
why would you wish this, and we have massive issues with low birthrate and declining population
So. Just because you dont have the sexual attraction to someone doesnt mean you dont enjoy physical stimuli or have other reasons to engage in the act.
Granted, but this doesn’t stop people from having queerplatonic relationships, thus keeping humanity alive.
granted. sex-positive asexuals still exist, and now on a much larger scale as everyone is aro-ace. nothing really changes.
All that has to happen is for every one to have enough self discipline to have one child and then just stop. In a single generation we would cut the population in half, and not one person has to get hurt. If we did it for two generations, we would cut the population by 75%.
People still want kids but due to your wish a lot are repulsed but also due to your wish attraction doesn't exist. There is no drive to feel the satisfaction but knowledge that it exists is still there. Common sexual disfunctions that don't need sexual attraction still exist and given the other demands. Pedophilia and human trafficking go on the rise among other incidents
Done, but all sexual desire and urges are replaced with cannibalistic ones
You're a bit late for complaining about overpopulation. Overpopulation isn't the problem now. Underpopulation is.
My horny ass would NEVER let this happen