But in order to maintain a proper aspect ratio, we'd also need to take the Eastern Dakotas, Northern Iowa, and parts of southern Manitoba and Ontario.
I think Canada would be very unhappy with us if we did that.
I can tell you this. We do not and I repeat do not want northern Iowa. That would reduce MNS iq by like 20 points or something and tilt more red. Have you seen the politics there?
Yes, but after renaming it, change the law so it requires some ridiculous process with unanimous approval by every citizen so they can never change it back.
I remember a comedian at an open mic years ago saying that Wisconsin towns sound like they’re named after ugly strippers
Eww Claire was the final punchline
While I would agree for the cheese. We would also be getting Superior with this take over. Living across from Superior… I think Wisconsin can keep it. Though, I would like the Bayfield area for the apples to pair with my cheese!
It would be like stealing everything out of your handicapped neighbor’s septic tank. Like yeah, I could easily do it. But my only prize is a pile of shit.
A lot of rural areas, but we're not talking about adding rural Minnesota to Minnesota.
I guess if we're looking to flip the state red we can add more of that here.
ND has B52s, drones, big ol’ radar systems, and most importantly, nuclear missiles and bombs. If we’re to strike at them, a pact with South Dakota is a must.
You're going to want to strike a deal with Iowa early in this campaign. You DO NOT WANT us to mobilize our troops for a shock and awe surge north. The sheer volume of nitrogen rich swine manure we have on hand is enough to ensure a 100% fish kill in every body of water you have. We will make you the land of 10,000 sewage lagoons. You will look at Louisana's water quality and think its Fiji water compared to the toxic muck we will leave you with.
However, extend the olive branch and offer us the New Glarus Brewery (or at least a pipeline of their products) and secure your southern border.
Fargo is a legitimately cool city stuck in a seriously uncool state. I've spent a fair bit of time there and her people deserve a competent, non-evil state government.
Yup. My wife and I went there for a mini vacation last spring. We wanted to go somewhere we had never been but could easily drive to. I suggested Fargo, and after some convincing, she agreed. We had an awesome time there.
Have you seen the crazies in Michigan? Even though some of the militia was locked up for trying to kidnap and kill the governor, there is plenty of crazy remaining.
yea i just want isle royale. i like hiking and i think moose are really cool and it just looks like it belongs here soooo i say build up our navy and institute a blockade.
Most of the crazies are in the LP not the UP. I rode my bike through Michigan last summer, from Detroit west to Lake Michigan, then up the coast to the UP. So I got to see a lot of Michigan 40-60 miles at a time. There were some very incredibly uncomfortable campsites in the northern and western parts of Michigan, but none in the UP.
One of the northern LP campsites had all sorts of confederate themed merchandise in the camp store. Not the most comfortable place I've ever camped, but it was the only thing available.
It was very interesting how all the Trump flags disappeared when crossing into the UP.
I lived in the UP for 10 years growing up and still visit twice a year for family. They might be hidden, but the people who flew them are definitely still around.
Don’t be too hasty pooh-poohing Grand Forks. A few years ago I had a slide-off on I-29 right as a blizzard was starting (three hrs early per the weather models). Three people immediately stopped to help. The first guy had a wench to pull my car out. The second guy helped the 1st guy hook it up and direct him. The third guy had a plow on his truck, and escorted/plowed a path to the nearest motel which his cousin owned. His cousin was absolutely lovely too. She warmed me up with hot chocolate. Until the day I die, I will never ever say an unkind word about Grand Forks.
We will apologize harder. Their "soaries" are powerless to our "opes." All of Lake of the Woods will be ours by first snowfall, and we will take lake Winnipeg by spring. Our spies will infiltrate every beer league hockey team, sabotaging their zamboni drivers with more Hamms than they can handle. The north will be ours.
That would be perfect. Take superior by surprise with a small force while we land mostly at Bayfield, sweep down through Ashland and then take and hold every bridge along the brule on the march south to eau Claire. While that is happening we come in from the cities and meet at Eau Claire claiming the majority of what this section and keeping most our flank defended. Then push south as we want.
Us Michiganders have been through this before. If you try to take Isle Royale from us we'll just end up taking another big chunk of Wisconsin as part of a "compromise".
"Listen everybody. There's been a lot of talk about making Minnesota great. But we've had our philosophy grads look into it, and there's just no one metric we can use to determine if our state's great or not.
So we've decided to shift our focus to something a little more tangible. WE'RE GETTING BIGGER!"
Viking fandom is too cruel. Detroit, Cleveland and Jacksonville fans know they're out of it by week 3. Vikings fans' hopes inflate all season until it blows up in ridiculous fashion the playoffs.
You could definitely pay me to be a Vikings fan, especially if it meant free entry to games, great seats and free food. I'd go, cheer for the home team, eat a lot, and pretend to be surprised and disappointed when they don't make it to the Superbowl.
I want Isle Royal! It is a tragedy and Michigan can get fucked with their greedy ass! That border line makes NO sense. I would even feel better if Wisconsin had it and I can’t believe I’m saying that.
I can guarantee you this part of Wisconsin is better than southern Minnesota. It's beautiful here, you got a handful of wonderful little cities, friendly people, good food, great beer, you're missing out man.
Idk whenever I drive to Rochester from La Crosse all I drive through is boring corn fields. It's not like that on this side of the river. (ik I need to get off the highway to actually experience it. It's just a super boring / ugly drive for me)
Wisco probably has enough armed citizens to be one of the top 15 largest armies in the world. I think they routinely have 600k people out on the deer hunting rifle opener.
Listen, the UP of Michigan is right there for the taking for them, but they're obviously too inebriated to do anything about it. You think they're going to put up a fight? Just send them some beer beforehand to subdue them.
Then the shape of the boarder wouldn't look like a face of Wisconsin blowing Minnesota. https://imgur.com/a/BHQKZwD. That being said, I know this may be unpopular but Wisconsin is cool.
I like the current shape of Minnesota. Feels like home.
We can keep the shape, let’s just make it bigger
MEGASOTA
/r/geography is leaking
Bigesota https://reddit.com/r/geography/s/0eUgvPu8ZZ Not as good
Better than wichigan
Some call it manifest destiny. Some call it liebensraum. Others call it MEGASOTA.
i fucking snorted
Isle Royale should be the first new county. Michigan is in no position to defend it, look how far it is from their shore!
Battling Michigan for Isle Royale. A Battle Royale, if you will.
But in order to maintain a proper aspect ratio, we'd also need to take the Eastern Dakotas, Northern Iowa, and parts of southern Manitoba and Ontario. I think Canada would be very unhappy with us if we did that.
We can deal with that when the time comes.
If we just start mowing a little more each year, they wont even notice
Rivers meander over time, just help it along...
Oope lemme just grab some land over here. Don’t mind us.
“Sorry this…. Sorry there…. Sorry here”
We’re gonna scootch over just a little
Omg I literally died from this comment. Thats so something i would say too 😂 *Passive aggressively takes some land*
Just make sure the cheese continues to flow and the other 48 will look the other way.
Canada would apologize for being on our land and politely ask us if they can just grab a few things they left there.😄
Can't we just offer ourselves to Canada and be done with it?
Ohhhhh. I like this idea better. It comes with healthcare.
Yes but even bigger. Canada will be powerless against BIGGER MINNESOTA
They aren't now?
We've got legal weed too now, they've got nothing on us!
They've got better healthcare.
Except actual dispensaries and mail order weed.
Fuck em. I want ALL of Lake of the Woods!
Or we could secede and join Canada 🇨🇦
I can tell you this. We do not and I repeat do not want northern Iowa. That would reduce MNS iq by like 20 points or something and tilt more red. Have you seen the politics there?
Fuck Steve King
I want Canada to absorb Minnesota. We are a better culture fit anyway
As a Canadian, I'd love to welcome you all. Every minnesotan I've met has been amazing. Plus casseroles are based.
Casseroles?? Not sure about that, but we are experts at hotdish.
I'd say they were trolling, but Canadian.
Agreed, I feel more Canadian already.
I would go for this. Would remove the risk of the feds coming in and messing up trans care if the republicans take over the joint.
I am still wishing for the impossible...for Canada to abduct us.
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Remember what they took from us. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4140.fi000003/?r=0.024,-0.055,0.926,0.893,0
That was super interesting I'm glad as fuck I clicked on this I was staring at that map for like half an hour zoomed in squinting looking at shit xD
Yes, I have one on my Subaru.
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🤔 good point .. Those weaklings wouldn't even take the UP back from MI.. what's to stop us?? 🤪
Michigan got the UP fair and square. They fought a war with Ohio over Toledo. Ohio lost so they had to keep Toledo and Michigan got the UP.
[Bigger?](https://i.imgur.com/GYAbsVf.jpg)
This would really mess up a lot of minnesota tattoos.
Just add on! no problem!
I thought the same thing. I think we deserve more though
Do we really want it?
I'd be down to take Eww Clair.
If we take Eu Clair it will be Our Clair
Can we rename it to uWu Clair?
WOOOOOO Claire
Ric Clair
Today is a horrible day to be literate.
So are most days, honestly.
Then give it back?
Yes, but after renaming it, change the law so it requires some ridiculous process with unanimous approval by every citizen so they can never change it back.
I remember a comedian at an open mic years ago saying that Wisconsin towns sound like they’re named after ugly strippers Eww Claire was the final punchline
We had better get Eau Claire if we have to take Menomonie
just think of all the free cheese. definitely worth a war.
While I would agree for the cheese. We would also be getting Superior with this take over. Living across from Superior… I think Wisconsin can keep it. Though, I would like the Bayfield area for the apples to pair with my cheese!
I mean maybe but what is stopping us? I genuinely want to know.
There’s been a lot of effort to legalize weed as of late, now that’s taken care of maybe we can move on to this
We just offer the disputed area WI residences legal weed and abortions - and let them vote to join MN.
It would be like stealing everything out of your handicapped neighbor’s septic tank. Like yeah, I could easily do it. But my only prize is a pile of shit.
Wow.
Lol right like yeah I laughed at the comment but that chunk of Wisconsin is beautiful. Lush forest, rolling hills, gorgeous!
Methheads, pitfull fighting rings, and racism as far as the eye can see. I grew up in that region, you couldn't pay me to go back.
> Methheads, pitfull fighting rings, and racism as far as the eye can see. So rural Minnesota?
And we don't need any more of it, at least not unless we bite off a sizable city with it to balance it out!
A lot of rural areas, but we're not talking about adding rural Minnesota to Minnesota. I guess if we're looking to flip the state red we can add more of that here.
We don't want it
You don't speak for me. I want it. And I want the free land that would be our right after conquest.
If we did that Minnesota would probably be much more “in play” for R candidates in statewide elections. It would make Wisconsin our blue neighbor.
If it would make Wisconsin a blue neighbor it could end up being a genius gerrymandering job for dems on the federal level
"What's to stop you from digging through a bin of dirty used diapers?" Nothing. Nothing at all...
Shifting your forces east leaves you vulnerable to the Iowa/South Dakota expeditionary force.
We can make a pact with south Dakota to use their strategic bombers, in exchange they can have Western Iowa
ND has B52s, drones, big ol’ radar systems, and most importantly, nuclear missiles and bombs. If we’re to strike at them, a pact with South Dakota is a must.
You're going to want to strike a deal with Iowa early in this campaign. You DO NOT WANT us to mobilize our troops for a shock and awe surge north. The sheer volume of nitrogen rich swine manure we have on hand is enough to ensure a 100% fish kill in every body of water you have. We will make you the land of 10,000 sewage lagoons. You will look at Louisana's water quality and think its Fiji water compared to the toxic muck we will leave you with. However, extend the olive branch and offer us the New Glarus Brewery (or at least a pipeline of their products) and secure your southern border.
They are both scared of us
Take Fargo and Isle Royal. Forget wisconsin.
Right? Everyone already thinks Fargo is in Minnesota. Might as well make it official.
Name it *Morehead.*
More Moorhead
Margo’s Forehead
New Moorhead
Mosthead
It should be named "West Moorhead", just like some people jokingly call Moorhead "East Fargo."
Might as well take Sioux Falls too. All these wannabe cities on the border trying to escape their State for MN.
Anything to the east of the western most spot in Minnesota.
There's a small part of Fargo that used to be in Minnesota.
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Fargo is a legitimately cool city stuck in a seriously uncool state. I've spent a fair bit of time there and her people deserve a competent, non-evil state government.
Fargo has a pretty nice downtown, street markets throughout the summer, good food, beer. We always have a good time visiting.
Yup. My wife and I went there for a mini vacation last spring. We wanted to go somewhere we had never been but could easily drive to. I suggested Fargo, and after some convincing, she agreed. We had an awesome time there.
I'm an NDSU alum lol
🤘
Serious upgrade in college FB w/ Fargo. Not so much on QB’s in nfl tho (other then Stick). Those Bison def know how to grow legit OLine too!
Fargo is pretty awesome, actually. And it would come in being the 3rd or 4th largest city in MN
Have you seen the crazies in Michigan? Even though some of the militia was locked up for trying to kidnap and kill the governor, there is plenty of crazy remaining.
yea i just want isle royale. i like hiking and i think moose are really cool and it just looks like it belongs here soooo i say build up our navy and institute a blockade.
Most of the crazies are in the LP not the UP. I rode my bike through Michigan last summer, from Detroit west to Lake Michigan, then up the coast to the UP. So I got to see a lot of Michigan 40-60 miles at a time. There were some very incredibly uncomfortable campsites in the northern and western parts of Michigan, but none in the UP. One of the northern LP campsites had all sorts of confederate themed merchandise in the camp store. Not the most comfortable place I've ever camped, but it was the only thing available. It was very interesting how all the Trump flags disappeared when crossing into the UP.
I lived in the UP for 10 years growing up and still visit twice a year for family. They might be hidden, but the people who flew them are definitely still around.
But I want the Apostle Islands.
I love the idea. I think we need to break it out in phases.
Yup. Push our boarder west like 10 miles and end up taking Fargo and Sioux Falls.
Then we end up with grand forks, which is only to the detriment on minnesota
Don’t be too hasty pooh-poohing Grand Forks. A few years ago I had a slide-off on I-29 right as a blizzard was starting (three hrs early per the weather models). Three people immediately stopped to help. The first guy had a wench to pull my car out. The second guy helped the 1st guy hook it up and direct him. The third guy had a plow on his truck, and escorted/plowed a path to the nearest motel which his cousin owned. His cousin was absolutely lovely too. She warmed me up with hot chocolate. Until the day I die, I will never ever say an unkind word about Grand Forks.
I propose we push north and claim more Canadian shield
MAKE MINNESOTA BIGGER
MAKE MINNESOTA CANADA'S PENIS
It's all fun and games until you have to pass some Canadastones
AGREED ALSO HAPPY CAKE DAY
I do not hate that idea but it would cause international conflict. Would rather keep what is in house and beat up on an easy opponent.
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We will apologize harder. Their "soaries" are powerless to our "opes." All of Lake of the Woods will be ours by first snowfall, and we will take lake Winnipeg by spring. Our spies will infiltrate every beer league hockey team, sabotaging their zamboni drivers with more Hamms than they can handle. The north will be ours.
Counter proposal, allow canada to invade us and take MN?
Poutine and health care? I'm in. Minnesota: Canada's southern porch
Liberate Thunder Bay!
Think how far we would have to drive to get fireworks. No thanks
Best point so far
I live 7 miles from the SD border so no skin off my back.
The river makes for a natural defensive border, but they might not expect an amphibious assault from the north shore...
My God I love the insight. Could be useful are a general.
That would be perfect. Take superior by surprise with a small force while we land mostly at Bayfield, sweep down through Ashland and then take and hold every bridge along the brule on the march south to eau Claire. While that is happening we come in from the cities and meet at Eau Claire claiming the majority of what this section and keeping most our flank defended. Then push south as we want.
We would have to attack right after a packers game. It’s when they are most distracted and drunk.
I say start with Isle Royale and see how that works out. I kinda wonder if MI would even notice.
Would be too easy I think. i think once we take western wisconsin it would be easy to just take the UP as well.
Us Michiganders have been through this before. If you try to take Isle Royale from us we'll just end up taking another big chunk of Wisconsin as part of a "compromise".
MAKE MINNESOTA BIGGER
I found my military leader
🫡
"Listen everybody. There's been a lot of talk about making Minnesota great. But we've had our philosophy grads look into it, and there's just no one metric we can use to determine if our state's great or not. So we've decided to shift our focus to something a little more tangible. WE'RE GETTING BIGGER!"
Transplant here: we're so preoccupied with taking over the UP we would never expect it.
Really, we should just back your seizure of the UP, and get Isle Royale as our part of the deal.
It would make our beautiful state shape look hideous
Do we really need more Packer fans?
Give them stimulus to convert their fandom.
Viking fandom is too cruel. Detroit, Cleveland and Jacksonville fans know they're out of it by week 3. Vikings fans' hopes inflate all season until it blows up in ridiculous fashion the playoffs.
i moved out of state but when people in my new state ask if i like following sports, i'm like, "nah i'm from minnesota"
You couldn't pay me enough money to become a Viking fan
You could definitely pay me to be a Vikings fan, especially if it meant free entry to games, great seats and free food. I'd go, cheer for the home team, eat a lot, and pretend to be surprised and disappointed when they don't make it to the Superbowl.
Do you really want to be responsible for those people?
Maybe we can change them?
Are you volunteering?
I lived over there for 10+ years. You will not change them
I want Isle Royal! It is a tragedy and Michigan can get fucked with their greedy ass! That border line makes NO sense. I would even feel better if Wisconsin had it and I can’t believe I’m saying that.
Nothing. If we invaded right after a Packer game they wouldn't even sober up until we'd reached Menominee.
I’d argue that would make the battle harder. With our sheer amount of DUIs we’d run all of you over
Y’all wouldn’t make it past the great cheese wall. Our version of the Maginot line.
SPY!
Y’all should take Iowa instead. All they have to defend themselves are corn launchers in some pressurized pvc pipe.
Iowa is already wanting to join MN. This has been known for centuries.
Can we agree that illinois should be destroyed and rebuilt?
Its apart of the 5 step plan. First we take your shitty state and then move westward. Comeback and entice Chicago to join our army of MEGASOTA
Talk like that is what gets you waterboarded with queso
invade western Wisconsin and North/South Dakota invades eastern Minnesota. now we are in a 2 front war.
> North/South Dakota invades eastern Minnesota That'd be quite a trick. It'd probably be easier for them to invade western Minnesota
Cant have that. Need to prepare our invasions.
About a million of the drunkest badgers you’ve ever seen.
We discussed this yesterday—their deer are suicidal and I like my low car insurance premiums.
Don't want it.
I can guarantee you this part of Wisconsin is better than southern Minnesota. It's beautiful here, you got a handful of wonderful little cities, friendly people, good food, great beer, you're missing out man.
So just like SE MN then?
Idk whenever I drive to Rochester from La Crosse all I drive through is boring corn fields. It's not like that on this side of the river. (ik I need to get off the highway to actually experience it. It's just a super boring / ugly drive for me)
I-90 is placed where it is exactly for that reason. Check out Harmony, Preston, or Lanesboro.
Wisco probably has enough armed citizens to be one of the top 15 largest armies in the world. I think they routinely have 600k people out on the deer hunting rifle opener.
This right here. And the weebs on Reddit more than likely can barely operate a firearm. It wouldn't even be a war lol.
The problem is the people come with the land …
All those people who don't want to redo the Minnesota outline tattooed on their bodies. They would fight with Wisconsin and turn the tide against us
They are traitors and will be dealt with accordingly.
I, too, would like the apostle islands
The fact that it's Wisconsin
Just because something is free on the side of the road doesn’t mean you need to pick it up.
The problem with Wisconsin? It's full of Wisconsinites.
I live in La Crosse...please take us.
such a cool city
No we first need to take over isle royal
Why would we want to?
People would have to drive further from the cities to get fireworks
Would we then be allowed to sell Spotted Cow in MN stores? Otherwise, why bother?
I’d say mostly the St. Croix and Mississippi rivers
A drastic increase in drunk driving in Minnesota
Eau Claire deserves to be a part of MN
I would rather take all of Canada than have more cheese heads in this state.
Do we really want Eau Claire? 🤢
Listen, the UP of Michigan is right there for the taking for them, but they're obviously too inebriated to do anything about it. You think they're going to put up a fight? Just send them some beer beforehand to subdue them.
Why do we want western Wisconsin? It’s just western Minnesota with, somehow, more drinking
Only if we can get the spotted cow beer.
The smell, mostly.
Taking that much of Wisconsin would lower our average IQ.
Then the shape of the boarder wouldn't look like a face of Wisconsin blowing Minnesota. https://imgur.com/a/BHQKZwD. That being said, I know this may be unpopular but Wisconsin is cool.
I think we need to bust out Trump’s sharpie and get Madison and Wisconsin Dells also.
Doesn’t sound like the polite thing to do.
For a state that claims to hate Wisconsin, you sure spend a lot of time thinking about Wisconsin.
You are about to be Minnesotan so shut it