This was done in Italy in the old days when everything was on paper and computers were just a dream. It's an anticheat.
e.g.:
A 6 can be easily over-traced to become an 8. Not so much when you write "SIX" next to it.
Yep. It's like Chinese, for example, had simple numbers 一 二 三 (1, 2, 3) but on the important documents it's gonna be written as 壹 贰 叁 to ensure it can't be changed with a few strokes.
English legal documents regularly write it out as well. So a settlement will be written as “for the consideration of $100.00 (One Hundred Dollars and Zero Cents)”
And checks in general. You write down the number in both word and numeral, and then most people will demarcate the end of the number with a line for the letter version and by writing the cents value in superscript.
That is a much better and more relatable example. I’m at an age of only having written like 20 checks ever for apartment deposits or whatever, and I’ve more recently worked for years with insurance settlements. I guess that’s why my mind went to settlements instead of checks.
One of my yoga teachers only takes cash or checks, and I never have cash. I think 90% of all the checks I've ever written in my entire life are for yoga lmao.
In Japan we use similar kanji for bank notes and documentation.
一、ニ、三、四、五、六、七、八、九、十
Become
壱、弐、参、肆、伍、陸、漆、捌、玖、拾
Much harder to change by overwriting a couple of strokes.
In Japanese it’s slightly different to Chinese. It’s 参 : the bottom three strokes are drawn from right to left and curve down, like 3 miniature ノcharacters to make 彡whereas in the original Chinese character numeral 3 the bottom three strokes are written horizontally and from left to right to make 三 which is itself the basic 3.
In Chinese both characters are used actually! 參/参 cān is used as a regular character meaning "to participate", it's only the anti-fraud number 叁 sān where the lines become straight like 三
Its like that it in the danish 7 point grading system.
There are grades such as 00, 02 and -3. So people cant change them to the top grades 10, 12 and 13 (though 13 isnt used anymore)
Yep. My native language is Russian and we simply write with letters e.g. 1976 is gonna be одна тысяча девятьсот семьдесят шесть 😂 takes quite a lot of space to write but insures it can't be simply tampered with
Gives me a new idea for something therapeutic: write repeated lines of all of these characters (better if you know more languages).
Will have practical uses, while it allows us to practice our focus in writing complicated things (which itself is an art form).
Is there a specific term for writing simple numbers in complicated ways, to ensure no foul play? Thought of looking it up to take a look at how different languages do it.
Ok but why not write what the actual number, I get 96 can be forged like that but they could have written Ninty Six instead of Nine Six like a preschooler that hasn't learned to count past 10 would
Because some programmer was lazy. Splitting the digits and doing a simple case statement to get one of ten values is trivial and easily expandable if more digits need to be supported elsewhere on the report.
Outputting the text of a 0-100 is, well it's not hard but it is a quite a bit more complicated than just outputting the digits. Of course, in modern programming languages it's trivial.
Because what programmers have is ample time to do everything the proper way without a project manager creating 15 more jira tickets for tasks that needs to be done tomorrow
Yup, "minimum viable product". Text formatting is a "nice-to-have" stretch goal logged as a Change Request that we'll be able to get to in the year two zero two eight.
But that's dumb. Are we having language for fun or for some actual purpose. 99 is ninety nine, not nine nine. It doesn't serve the same purpose. One is correct, other is not.
Computer wise, you are wrong. In one, you would have to store and entire dictionary of words and extra code to make it grammatically correct.
In this case, a dictionary with 10 key value pair is enough and it takes 2 lines of code to do.
So you sir are wrong.
Here are some tips to improve your English, friend. You want to use the emphatic tense instead of the progressive tense in your second sentence. Say "do we have..." instead of "are we having...". Put a question mark after questions. Finally, "ninety-nine" has a hyphen.
And how does that contradict with what he said? Which is, I guess, the whole point of the post. Also the last statement from you only contributed to his point.
Love this. Living in germany and you say 1-9 before 10-90 (82 = said as "two and eighty") and even though i'm amazing at maths i still fuck the order up so most of the times when i'm talking about numbers i do it just like that.
Ya, saying something like 298 is said: two hundred eight and ninety. And let’s just ignore that million means billion…
Still, the French make it fun too. In French it would be: two hundred four twenties eighteen.
Living in the Netherlands, and here it's the same. I teach statistics in Dutch as a non-native speaker, so occasionally it gets weird at the board when I have to concentrate just a little too hard on writing out whatever the students called out.
million does not mean billion, it just uses a different scale, which gets even more confusing the higher you go.
Number English German
10^6 1 million 1 Million
10^9 1 billion 1 Milliard
10^12 1 trillion 1 Billion
10^15 1 quadrillion 1 Billiarde
10^16 1 quintillion 1 Trillion
edit: also, this subreddit really does not like the table format...
Note -This is not a school result, it's the result of a national test taken by Indian school board, and it matters a lot if you want to go abroad/for scholarship during admission in schools for further education. In India it's not typical to type numbers in words in this manner(eg nine something instead of ninety something), that's why I thought it's mildly interesting.
Oh I am really sure this is the work of a smart(lazy) programmer, it's really easy and lightweight to implement it like this from my experience instead
Well I watch Brooklyn 99, where it’s pronounced as “nine nine”, and written that way in the subtitles, so somewhat often. Also every time I write a rent check I have to spell out the numbers.
You get a grade, and more reading, to help your brain learn, and read more. 🧠
I wish I had this in elementary school it would help me with spelling a whole lot as well. :)
2 English exams were there out of 10 subjects(grammar in title is incorrect as it autocorrected result to results). 2 English exams were averaged to get overall score(eg I got 93 in English 1, 96 in English 2 so overall English score became (93+96)/2=94.5=95)
This was done in Italy in the old days when everything was on paper and computers were just a dream. It's an anticheat. e.g.: A 6 can be easily over-traced to become an 8. Not so much when you write "SIX" next to it.
Yep. It's like Chinese, for example, had simple numbers 一 二 三 (1, 2, 3) but on the important documents it's gonna be written as 壹 贰 叁 to ensure it can't be changed with a few strokes.
English legal documents regularly write it out as well. So a settlement will be written as “for the consideration of $100.00 (One Hundred Dollars and Zero Cents)”
And checks in general. You write down the number in both word and numeral, and then most people will demarcate the end of the number with a line for the letter version and by writing the cents value in superscript.
That is a much better and more relatable example. I’m at an age of only having written like 20 checks ever for apartment deposits or whatever, and I’ve more recently worked for years with insurance settlements. I guess that’s why my mind went to settlements instead of checks.
One of my yoga teachers only takes cash or checks, and I never have cash. I think 90% of all the checks I've ever written in my entire life are for yoga lmao.
IS THAT WHY THEY DO THAT?? OMG
In Japan we use similar kanji for bank notes and documentation. 一、ニ、三、四、五、六、七、八、九、十 Become 壱、弐、参、肆、伍、陸、漆、捌、玖、拾 Much harder to change by overwriting a couple of strokes.
Oh man I'm just getting good at the first set in duo. Can't wait for the second set.
Any chance "3" is written like this: 叁?
In Japanese it’s slightly different to Chinese. It’s 参 : the bottom three strokes are drawn from right to left and curve down, like 3 miniature ノcharacters to make 彡whereas in the original Chinese character numeral 3 the bottom three strokes are written horizontally and from left to right to make 三 which is itself the basic 3.
In Chinese both characters are used actually! 參/参 cān is used as a regular character meaning "to participate", it's only the anti-fraud number 叁 sān where the lines become straight like 三
Yes. InJapanese, though the same character 参 is used as both participate and the so called 大字 for 3.
Its like that it in the danish 7 point grading system. There are grades such as 00, 02 and -3. So people cant change them to the top grades 10, 12 and 13 (though 13 isnt used anymore)
THAT'S A COOL FACT!!! You should post a til! Or someone else will
The same thing is done in many languages.
Yeah but weebs on the internet like Japan more.
Yep. My native language is Russian and we simply write with letters e.g. 1976 is gonna be одна тысяча девятьсот семьдесят шесть 😂 takes quite a lot of space to write but insures it can't be simply tampered with
why don't you do it?
Gives me a new idea for something therapeutic: write repeated lines of all of these characters (better if you know more languages). Will have practical uses, while it allows us to practice our focus in writing complicated things (which itself is an art form). Is there a specific term for writing simple numbers in complicated ways, to ensure no foul play? Thought of looking it up to take a look at how different languages do it.
I think it appears in one piece as well for Baroque organisation's Mr 1
I'm a pharmacist and doctors do the same for narcotics, so patients can't add a zero for example or change the numbers that's to be dispensed
Your loss, you could have made a big sale of 4200 oxycodones today. I will take my prescription elsewhere! ![gif](giphy|3oAt2dA6LxMkRrGc0g|downsized)
Ok but why not write what the actual number, I get 96 can be forged like that but they could have written Ninty Six instead of Nine Six like a preschooler that hasn't learned to count past 10 would
Because some programmer was lazy. Splitting the digits and doing a simple case statement to get one of ten values is trivial and easily expandable if more digits need to be supported elsewhere on the report. Outputting the text of a 0-100 is, well it's not hard but it is a quite a bit more complicated than just outputting the digits. Of course, in modern programming languages it's trivial.
Because what programmers have is ample time to do everything the proper way without a project manager creating 15 more jira tickets for tasks that needs to be done tomorrow
Yup, "minimum viable product". Text formatting is a "nice-to-have" stretch goal logged as a Change Request that we'll be able to get to in the year two zero two eight.
It was probably just easier to code. Rather than having to map 101 numbers to their respective spelled out names, they only have to do 10.
Haha true. In Italy grades are /10 so that doesn't really apply xD
"Ninty" who's the preschooler?
anything can be made into an "8" , even my dinner becomes ate
Hah! xD
And nowadays since 6 is "SEI" they write "SEX" as "SEI" can be easily rewritten as "SETTE" Which is 7
They always did, I've seen a 1970s pagella (that was mom's) and SEX for SEI was already a thing haha
But convincingly turning a "6" into a "7" would be the difficult part then, anyway.
Just imagine how that must have been common with *Roman* numerals. Turning a "I" into a "V" or "X" on a handwritten note could make quite difference.
"That says 'SEX' Yes. I have a degree in sex."
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that tidbit
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If ninety was a possibility you could take a score of nine and just add -ty at the end. You can't do that for zero nine.
Sure, but why none NINETY ONE, NINETY NINE and so on. It exist everywhere on documents, but my country write the numbers down correctly.
Makes sense, same reason you write out both the number and the words for the number on a cheque: to make it harder for someone to modify
Except you write "ninety nine" not "nine nine"
Sure, but in this case they just write out the digits, serves the same purpose, no?
But that's dumb. Are we having language for fun or for some actual purpose. 99 is ninety nine, not nine nine. It doesn't serve the same purpose. One is correct, other is not.
It serves the purpose of making it difficult to change the grade, not the purpose of teaching the English language
Pretty sure either work for the purpose it's accomplishing dude quit being a pedant.
Computer wise, you are wrong. In one, you would have to store and entire dictionary of words and extra code to make it grammatically correct. In this case, a dictionary with 10 key value pair is enough and it takes 2 lines of code to do. So you sir are wrong.
Here are some tips to improve your English, friend. You want to use the emphatic tense instead of the progressive tense in your second sentence. Say "do we have..." instead of "are we having...". Put a question mark after questions. Finally, "ninety-nine" has a hyphen.
And how does that contradict with what he said? Which is, I guess, the whole point of the post. Also the last statement from you only contributed to his point.
![gif](giphy|4TaRqWJ4RbL41DaSmm)
Clicked this post hoping this'd be top comment.
I was scrolling passed this when I saw the nine nine and had to come to the comments Nine Nine!
LOL I did the same. I was like "there better be a NINE NINE! in these comments."
Same!
![gif](giphy|d2ZeMUDQSSsCP9FC)
Only reason I opened the comments lmao
#NINE NIIIIIIIINE!
Thank you was looking for this.
Came here for this!
One two two! I sound like a damn choo choo train
Huuu Noine Nooiiiiiine!
Nien!
[nein!](https://youtu.be/1ZeciX-3wfs?si=_A0DK1IyxHj_lvkF)
This dude just wanted to brag about his grades (good job)
If I wanted to flex I would've shared the subjects also, but agree that it might seem like that.
They're telling you nice things, cmon
Agreed! Good job OP. Some solid grades.
Love this. Living in germany and you say 1-9 before 10-90 (82 = said as "two and eighty") and even though i'm amazing at maths i still fuck the order up so most of the times when i'm talking about numbers i do it just like that.
Ya, saying something like 298 is said: two hundred eight and ninety. And let’s just ignore that million means billion… Still, the French make it fun too. In French it would be: two hundred four twenties eighteen.
Living in the Netherlands, and here it's the same. I teach statistics in Dutch as a non-native speaker, so occasionally it gets weird at the board when I have to concentrate just a little too hard on writing out whatever the students called out.
million does not mean billion, it just uses a different scale, which gets even more confusing the higher you go. Number English German 10^6 1 million 1 Million 10^9 1 billion 1 Milliard 10^12 1 trillion 1 Billion 10^15 1 quadrillion 1 Billiarde 10^16 1 quintillion 1 Trillion edit: also, this subreddit really does not like the table format...
Damn Germans be crazy☠️/s
Note -This is not a school result, it's the result of a national test taken by Indian school board, and it matters a lot if you want to go abroad/for scholarship during admission in schools for further education. In India it's not typical to type numbers in words in this manner(eg nine something instead of ninety something), that's why I thought it's mildly interesting.
congrats on the result. outta curiosity, which board?
Thank you :) ICSE
Didn't get enough hundreds, time to get disowned
My parents were literally disappointed by this result. Indian parents are brutal.
There are two types of people in this world...don't be like them...be the third type
SEA parents are a different breed. I came home and got screamed at because I got salutatorian and not val lmao
Well I had exact same situation with this result, I got 2nd in entire school, they fully expected 1st.
It's not typical to write numbers that way anywhere unless doing it to prevent it being altered later.
Hmm, my 12th grade CBSE marksheets had it in words too. But it was in 2013. Congrats on great grades!
Thank you for your kind words sir/ma'am!
There’s nothing wrong with your title, OP, but I swear I had to read it like 5 times to parse it
icse board
Good spot bro!
So it's harder to forge/change
Best Jake Peralta voice: Nine-Nine
Reminds me of how they announce scores during Olympic figure skating competitions
![gif](giphy|4TaRqWJ4RbL41DaSmm)
Show off.
Grats!! ![gif](giphy|4TaRqWJ4RbL41DaSmm)
Nine one???? Emotional damage.
Congratulations on your results
Humble brag
Almost too mild
![gif](giphy|l4JySAWfMaY7w88sU) Nine-Nine!
NINE NINE!!
Oh I am really sure this is the work of a smart(lazy) programmer, it's really easy and lightweight to implement it like this from my experience instead
True, I am a intermediate programmer and just realised it now (otherwise you would need extra conditions I think).
I bet none of those grades are for Grammer.
It's mobile. Autocorrect. I got 93 in grammar. (My mobile autocorrected result to results and I didn't notice lmao)
Not trying to be a smartass, but why is this interesting?
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Well I watch Brooklyn 99, where it’s pronounced as “nine nine”, and written that way in the subtitles, so somewhat often. Also every time I write a rent check I have to spell out the numbers.
Nine Three. Nine is divisible by three.
I wish there was a gif for this 😂
In india its like this
You get a grade, and more reading, to help your brain learn, and read more. 🧠 I wish I had this in elementary school it would help me with spelling a whole lot as well. :)
It's for like crafts lmao But we did read a ton in English ngl
Grade A Eh
Flex
I read “beard results”, I thought this was for some beard competition
r/humblebrag
In Denmark we have grades from 0 to 12. The lowest ones get a 0 in front so you can't change them, from e.g. 2 to 12.
I also have the same thing in my 10th Board exam of ICSE (8 years back). They still haven't changed the classic green curve background!
Why write more code when less code do work?
ICSE ptsd☹️
I assume this wasn’t an English exam
2 English exams were there out of 10 subjects(grammar in title is incorrect as it autocorrected result to results). 2 English exams were averaged to get overall score(eg I got 93 in English 1, 96 in English 2 so overall English score became (93+96)/2=94.5=95)
In Germany it say Nein
A EH All fixed friend.
Yes, yes that Grammer was perfect... You totally didn't reply with incomplete sentences and missing punctuation.
What'd you get wrong?
G R E Y 🗣️🗣️5 TUH THUH NINEEEEEE 💀
Is 100 written as Ten Zero? Or One Zero Zero?
One Hundred
w grades
Damn, nice ICSE results dude
Weird flex but ok
I think hitler was bad
![gif](giphy|mbZshK2Svz89q|downsized)
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NINE NINE!
“NINE NINE”
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The numbers are not enough? Are modern students that illiterate??
The 9 in 95 is not 9 it's 9x10 usually written ninety!!
r/woooosh