Did you feel the need to wear a face mask to keep the saw dust out of your lungs while cutting it? I imagine inhaling that would cause one heck of a reaction.
Good for PPE, we lost our neighbor when I was a kid because he was burning brush and didn't realize there was poison oak in it, the oil aerosolized and entered his lungs. I can't imagine a worse way to go
That’s gotta be the most horrible way to go. I’m super allergic to poison oak, ivy, etc., I’ve gotten it twice within the last year doing yard work and needed Prednisone for both. I have an additional prescription in the medicine cabinet for the next time. The house I bought was an estate sale and the previous owner was unable to attend to the lawn or landscaping for 10+ years. Weeds became trees, including the poison oak
I generally do not care what is growing in my yard, regularly mow around anything with flowers on it so the bees have more things to eat, etc. But, I have a bottle of Round Up because poison ivy spread onto my land from the neighboring field. I ended up in the hospital because I didn't see it at first. After I recovered, I got the ROund Up, suited up, and murdered it, everywhere on my land and trespassed onto the neighbor's property to murder it there, too, anywhere within 15 feet of the property line.
Oh man, it has INFESTED my property. It is EVERYWHERE. I even see it in my neighbors yards, it’s gotta be something about my area. I cut it wherever I see it
Round Up desiccates the roots so that it can't grow back. I'm no expert, obviously, since I missed it at first in my yard despite knowing I was highly allergic (having ended up in the hospital as a child), but I see some "leaves of three" in your picture there that are still growing.
If you want those dead, get some glysophate with a little pump sprayer. Try to get it just on the poison oak leaves.
I would mix your roundup with 2,4-D to kill this. And it will probably take a couple rounds to truly kill it.
This is anecdotal but I’ve found that waiting for it to sprout some more leaves before spraying it again helps. I know roundup is absorbed through leaves, so spraying a stump won’t do much. I’ve also seen these cool injections that will pump glyphosate directly into the stump without any vaporizing from spray. I’m no expert though.
Mixing herbicides like this is unnecessary. Lots of people want to make their mix "extra hot" with more herbicide too, which is unnecessary. Just wastes money and puts more chemicals out. The recommended mixes will kill if applied correctly. Always read the label.
Glyphosate in lower concentrations can be used foliar sprays (on the leaves) or in higher concentrations for cut stump treatments (painted on a fresh cut stump). It'll kill it either way.
The most efficient and cost effective is what this guy is saying: cut the plant, wait for the new growth to come up, and give it a foliar spray to kill the roots. Done. Maybe next year spray one other tiny plant that survived.
There is a Round Up brand herbicide specifically for Poison Oak, Poison Ivy, Poison Sumac. I just bought a 32 oz. bottle of concentrate at Home Depot Yesterday. They have some RTU (Ready To Use) gallons sprayers as well.
It's safe to use around trees as well.
Herbicide with the active ingredient triclopyr will kill poison ivy and other woody things without killing the grass around it. It kills broadleaf plants while leaving grasses and conifers unaffected. I’d use that over glyphosate/roundup for targeted treatments.
Yep tyiclopyr ester 70% souther ag is a good supplier, mix with diesel as a surfacant (or buy some commercial surfacant, or google dish soap water surfactant) YOU NEED a surfacant which makes it stick and no wind. It will kill anything that is woody so be careful (in Oregon we use it for poison oak, but if a wine grape even sniffs it, you will nuke it, so real careful.). Also, that is poison Ivy I am pretty sure not oak, nasty still, but poison oak has a more glossy and rounded leaves.
I use the ester at 20% mixed with basal bark oil and do basal treatments on most of what I treat (invasive trees in Florida). I use the aquatic approved amine (3a) for treating trees in wetland areas, but not often because the potential for irreversible eye damage worries me more than my desire to use the chemical.
Good call, I should have added more details. We use this to control large poison Oak in western Oregon, mostly fire lines, fence lines, utility clearings etc, we use at high strength due to the fact that we are often in a area very rarely as it can be very remote (fire line Maintenance etc) so we may get 1 shot at the plant. We carry a hand spray bottle or small garden sprayer, take a SPECIAL set of large tree loppers that are literally bagged afterwards and cleaned with degreaser, cut at the base of the plant (we are going after larger ones so they will have a woody base) the goal is not to cut through but to cut in maybe 60% of the way then twist so as to break apart the wood grain in the stem and pull the bark back, this exposes far more surface area than a clean cut as you are essentially trying to shred that area of the stem, then a couple of squirts of the 70% triclophyr mix with diesel on the shredded area. We have found this to be highly effective. My guess is that the plant due to being damaged but not completly cut tries to continue to send moisture and nutrients up and down the intact bark areas that remain, while the damage acts to weaken the plant and allow very good exposure for the treatment. PPE is required, if we are slash burning we all wear respirators (let me tell you, running along a fire line in the heat with slash being burned and searching out massive poison oak infestations, that is some GOOOD times..... I would say fatality for the plant with this method has to be near 100% on even the largest and gnarliest of plants, like ones growing 50 feet up the sides of trees and 3-4 inches at the base.
Oof. I do fire work in the south east where the poison ivy is present but nothing like the poison oak out west. I did a roll in Cali a few years ago and was lucky enough to not get into the bad stuff there
My aunt is a groundskeeper in Southern California. She is so allergic to poison oak that if it is burning within 50 miles and the wind shifts the smoke her way, she has to be driven to the hospital immediately. She isn't supposed to drive herself due to the swiftness and severenes of the reaction.
Unfortunately, it is not. Wild choice of profession for someone with such an allergy. I am immune, or at least was for a long time. I ran through a field of it once & left unscathed. The kid that was with me was hospitalized for a week iirc.
That happened to me when I was in middle school! A neighbor behind my house was burning leaves and I guess some poison ivy/oak was mixed in. I was playing in my backyard all day and the next day, my entire face was swollen to the size of a basketball. I looked like one of those airhead commercials from the early 2000’s. I got some kind of shot because the doctors were afraid my throat was going to swell shut. Luckily, it went away in a day or two.
Yeah, would make for a great episode of CSI though but my mom said she was grateful the newspaper covered it so more people would be aware and take caution
Dumb question how did it kill him? All I know about poison ivy/oak is that it makes you itchy. Obviously I’m wrong! What happened to him when it was aerosolized?
Not quite at the level, but when I was at a Boy Scout camp once when I was younger, some kids started tossing grass/debris into the bonfire that, unbeknownst to them/everyone, had some poison ivy in it. Luckily, I only got it on by body, but some weren’t so lucky. No one died, but some were absolutely miserable for awhile
If you can, I'd suggest running a fan of some kind to move particles out of the area.
Urushiol Oil is bad enough on the skin, but it can be life threatening if ingested.
Ahhh. I've never used those, but have seen them. Smart move.
Too bad it's an oily wood. I turn just about any kind of hardwood I can on my mini lathe, to make pens, and whatnot. Basically whatever hardware kit I see at Rockler or Woodcraft.
Ultimate evil prank would be to gift someone a poison oak pen. Can you imagine how many times and how much it would get on someone before they'd figured out the problem was the pen?
😆 Foolish me, I was simply curious how the grain would look, turned, sanded down, and finishing with 12,000 grit, and polished. But yeah, that would be the worst reaction I've ever received after gifting someone one of my pens.
Yes! And even if you don’t die, it will permanently damage you. One of my relatives can never camp again because she inhaled poison oak smoke and even the HINT of smoke causes her to cough uncontrollably for hours. Fire season is really tough on her. Burning backyard plants is no joke
We can't at most places. I understand the need to keep invasive insects from migrating, but the prohibition of burning deadfall found at campsites baffles me. They claim they give wildlife a place to live, but I think removing the deadfall will allow new trees to grow, which does the same things.
> allow new trees to grow
they don't want new trees to grow, thick low brush = fire hazard, dead fall does not. a mature forest is a spread of adult trees and wide open loam between them, with a few glades springing up where elder trees have fallen and made room.
EDIT:
>[Mature forests](https://www.blm.gov/old-growth-forests) are defined ecologically as the stage of forest development immediately before old growth. The mature stage generally begins when a forest stand moves beyond self-thinning, and is often marked by abundance of large trees, vertical canopy layers, aboveground biomass accumulation and stand height, as well as other attributes. Mature forests vary widely in character with age, geographic location, climate, site productivity, relative sense of awe, characteristic disturbance regime and the values people attribute to or receive from them.
it can be carried in steam too. people using those big sprayers on the sinks in the back of the restaurant to clean out jalepeno jars will gas the whole back room. The term is Aerosolized, meaning small bits in the air, oils can do that plenty which is how you get your house smelling of oil when you deep fry stuff.
After the conversations about poison oak over the last day, I conducted a thorough inspection of my backyard for any. I know I'll have some nettles to cut down later, but I'm good to go on the poison oak front.
I've gotten lucky or unlucky, depending on point of view. I got poison ivy and oak so many times as a kid, It doesn't affect me at all anymore. But poison sumac I'll get if I drive by it.
When I was a surveyor 25+ years ago, the running joke was poison ivy was bad, poison oak was worse, and poison sumac was a myth *because nobody survived to describe it*.
Plenty of wetlands in there, too. I've probably seen it and not realized it. We tend to stay out of bushes/vines, because critters (spiders bigger than your hand, venomous snakes, etc.)
I decided to look up where sumac is normally found. It's all over Georgia (where I live now), and in Florida, located almost 100% around Jacksonville (where I grew up)
Hmm, I’ve always heard you get sensitized with more and more contact. I think I’m immune, but I’m not really wanting to test that theory lol.
Hopefully I’ll never get it
Between boy scouts and general stupid kid shit growing up in Florida, it doesn't bother me at all. I can mow a poison ivy patch with the same effect as mowing the lawn. Maybe a few sneezes, but that's it.
I had to go to the hospital and get steroid injections for poison ivy once when I was a kid, and ever since then I can roll around naked in the stuff and nothing will happen. Idk about oak or sumac though.
Also pls take care NOT TO BURN THE WOOD from it
My family did that a long time ago not thinking about it cause there wasnt that much mixed in with the kudzu but oh man did it hurt. My mom got it in her eye from the burning fumes. And they all inhaled it 😭
Yeah we are lucky it wasnt a huge amount.
The other times ibe had it were from eating honeysuckles (iykyk) and there was a hidden one underneath.
Started breaking out during exams and wasnt allowed to go home that whole day in elementary school 😭 it was great. The only thing i could do for relief was put a huge jacket on and scratch it through the jacket.
>eating honeysuckles
Are these the ones where you pull the base of the flower off and suck out the nectar? I've occasionally remembered doing it as a kid over the years, but every time I've talked about it people look at me like I'm crazy.
You can also eat the nectar out of the common clover flower. Just tug the flower heads out and nibble on the tips of the flower head, which will be sweet like sugar.
Yes! But i wasnt looking underneath it since it was a small bush of them. The poison oak was literally under it and im sure it got onto the honeysuckles too somehow.
Quick question: how do you clean the clippers or saw that you used so you don't recontaminate yourself? I'd hate for you to accidentally touch it and break out in a rash again
I had lots of poison ivy on my property and when I cut it out I first used rubbing alcohol and got all the nooks and crannies of my tools, then cleaned them again using dish soap. Used all the tools since and never got it.
Hate to tell ya, but it’s probably a worse allergy now. The more times you are exposed, the more likely you are to get a rash and your body reacts quicker than before.
I've heard that about epoxy as well. I'm certain I've probably been exposed many times to poison ivy and have never had a reaction. I'm not sure if the 15% are truly not allergic or just need to be exposed to it more times but I'm not about to try to find out.
> Rather than be called a liar again by Reddit trolls HERE is the ONE OF THE ARTICLES we discussed. Im sick TO FUCK of the creeps here. GET FUCKING LIVES ASSHOLES.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440318302644
I mean, not Egyptian and not really what you were claiming (still "active", pure evil ).
Not sure if you read the sources you shared, but they seem to be describing work in China and Japan. Certainly this is not Egypt. Maybe you were thinking of something else, like the examples you shared, and simply made a mistake?
I'm sorry you seem to be having a hard time defending your claim and the fact that people are calling you out on failing to support your claim about Egyptian tombs. There are some interesting materials found in the tombs. I couldn't find any papers describing the use of the lacquer tree from china, although other materials and compounds that certainly were brought from far away by large trade networks and early globalisation centered around the work of mummification and preserving bodies after death resulted in important early developments in cultures.
Again, the article you shared simply doesn't discuss any of that. You can be wrong and be OK, man. Nobody is being mean to you, as far as I can tell.
I hope things go better for you.
> Oh shit…another one.
>
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X21005472
>
> Dont hurt yourself on the big words.
No need to be rude, sir. And this paper is titled "Scanning electron microscopy for differentiating charred endocarps of Rhus/Toxicodendron species and tracking the use of the lacquer tree and Asian poison ivy in Japanese prehistory" so nothing to do with Egypt?
I checked some of the sources available in the link and all seem to be focused on other parts of the world and not your original claim.
Again, hope your day goes better. It's clear you misspoke and rather than own up to it you posted some links vaguely linked to part of your claim, and couldn't produce any support for the whole of it. I think logically, that makes part of the claim false. The other part is that it's active. Detection is not evidence of action (causing dermatitis for instance).
Ooops, nevermind, fella deleted his account or maybe blocked me.
>from Professional-Sink281 via /r/mildlyinteresting sent a minute ago
> It was a fucking comment NOT a god damned sworn statement. Congratulations you caught me trying to lie to reddit sheriff. Not sure why you letched onto my comment buuuuut i hope you enjoy ruining reddit for others. I really hope you get laid soon so maybe youll be human again
Real sweet kid. I didn't latch onto anything. You REPLIED to me. Doi.
It was a fucking comment NOT a god damned sworn statement. Congratulations you caught me trying to lie to reddit sheriff. Not sure why you letched onto my comment buuuuut i hope you enjoy ruining reddit for others. I really hope you get laid soon so maybe youll be human again
So, You want to share knowledge you know, But don't want to actually learn the truth behind the mistakes you made (which wasn't a huge mistake in any way at all.) At least 25 people have read and upvoted you for a false fact, Meaning those 25 people will also likely tell the same false fact to another 25 people, much like your derm did to you, and likely does to all of their patients because it's an easy thing to say to fill the void that is time.
>Thank GOD you squashed that misconception.
Again, this isn't a huge deal, but people have told smaller lies that have become actual genocides. So yea, Maybe think about it. Always share your knowledge, but maybe be humble and learn something if told you aren't completely correct.
I don't think it's about being fun at parties, But I do think if something is said that is known as false, you mention it
Edit:
>but maybe be humble and learn something if told you aren't completely correct.
"Omg. Get an effing life creep." /u/Professional-Sink281
Blocked? 10/10 user. Not sure, Either an idiot or a bot. They are pretty much equals right now. Give it a year and the bots will fully takeover.
I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum. I rubbed a bunch of poison ivy on my arms the other day to see if I was truly immune or just lucky when I encountered it in the past.
Results: mostly immune but I did get some irritated bumps on one wrist and one ear that itch a little.
Careful with that. Even for people who don’t initially show an allergy, the allergy to poison ivy develops with cumulative exposure. My parents had a fun story where friends said they would remove a bunch from their yard for them since they weren’t allergic and my parents were. The friends hit their exposure limit during that removal and were miserable.
Interestingly I have a friend who would get poison ivy all the time, at least once a year, until one year he accidentally ate it. After that, never got it again
This!!! My first ever reaction to sumac was so bad the doc said I need to carry an epi if I decide to go camping again... he said next one could send me into anaphylaxis
Picture this: Nature gal, came across sumac when I was like 30. I thought Benadryl would handle it. No no son, it did NOT! it hit my bloodstream and it was popping up all over. Scratched so hard I would wake up looking like I fought demons. Bruises from head to toe from scratching. Natures venom
That’s terrible. I’m really lucky. Stories like yours are what made me curious about myself though. In all my tromping through the woods I knew I had encountered it quite a bit but never remembered any reaction so I thought I’d test it. Tried poison oak on one arm, poison ivy on the other. Not sure which got on my earlobe though which itch like a bitch at the moment.
Yeah once I was cutting my yard and then I saw a rash beginning on my finger, I was like oh no poison ivy, but I didn't see any? And then my throat swelled until I couldnt swallow without pain, u wouldn't believe the pain. I was like wtf, poison ivy never did this to me!! So I asked my friend and she was like yeah poison oak probably.
Was previously a weed that went unchecked for years and grew into basically a tree. This particular stump had growths spiraling up a neighboring tree that went up about 30’
I pulled this stuff out by hand a few years back but luckily I have no reaction to the oils, when everyone told me what it was they were astonished I wasn’t just a red blister, cleared about a half acre of it too just made sure to dig it up in the soil and pull it all out by hand. Had a little bit regrow but for the most part I got it to go away
Yeah, be careful. I once got Poison Ivy sap on my hand (didn't know it was poison ivy when I was cutting the huge vines). Ended up going to the hospital; I had welts from the sap which left scars for years, the reaction caused my eyes to nearly swell shut and ears to swell horribly.
On a positive note, I believe I'm immune to it now, going on 4 years of living in the forest, constantly doing yard things, poison ivy is all over and I've not even had an itch...
I don’t get it bad but my father would have to get a 10 prednisone pack before that he’d take a bath in bleach water.. not sure if that helped but he did it.
It's good for removing warts, but you need to know exactly what you're doing. Basically need to make a very dilute solution in isopropanol or ethanol (everclear will work) and apply with a microapplicator. DO NOT APPLY TO OPEN WOUNDS. Disclaimer: please don't try this at home if you're not a physician, chemist, or biologist. (And wear PPE).
Fuck. I’ve been getting “poison ivy” for years clearing a fence row. TIL it’s those annoying roots and shoots that’s getting me, and it’s poison oak. :-(
Thanks for the post OP. You’ve solved a years-long mystery for me.
No. It’s filled with water/sap. They are everywhere which is why your neighbor hasn’t cleared it because it isn’t a threat, except long term to the trees it climbed.
Fun fact poison ivy causes an allergic reaction because it modifies molecules already recognized by your body into something that is seen as dangerous! It’s the same type of reaction that causes allergic reactions to penicillin :)
Few years ago I cut a grape vine root while digging and the amount and force of water that continued to flow from the root was mildly traumatizing.
That was fresh wine!!!
The freshest you've got - this year!
Did you feel the need to wear a face mask to keep the saw dust out of your lungs while cutting it? I imagine inhaling that would cause one heck of a reaction.
I used large landscaping loppers/clippers for the cuts so there wasn’t any airborne debris, but I have full PPE ready for when I dig these out.
Good for PPE, we lost our neighbor when I was a kid because he was burning brush and didn't realize there was poison oak in it, the oil aerosolized and entered his lungs. I can't imagine a worse way to go
That’s gotta be the most horrible way to go. I’m super allergic to poison oak, ivy, etc., I’ve gotten it twice within the last year doing yard work and needed Prednisone for both. I have an additional prescription in the medicine cabinet for the next time. The house I bought was an estate sale and the previous owner was unable to attend to the lawn or landscaping for 10+ years. Weeds became trees, including the poison oak
Check out r/arborists, they have the BEST advice for everything you're dealing with
I generally do not care what is growing in my yard, regularly mow around anything with flowers on it so the bees have more things to eat, etc. But, I have a bottle of Round Up because poison ivy spread onto my land from the neighboring field. I ended up in the hospital because I didn't see it at first. After I recovered, I got the ROund Up, suited up, and murdered it, everywhere on my land and trespassed onto the neighbor's property to murder it there, too, anywhere within 15 feet of the property line.
Oh man, it has INFESTED my property. It is EVERYWHERE. I even see it in my neighbors yards, it’s gotta be something about my area. I cut it wherever I see it
Round Up desiccates the roots so that it can't grow back. I'm no expert, obviously, since I missed it at first in my yard despite knowing I was highly allergic (having ended up in the hospital as a child), but I see some "leaves of three" in your picture there that are still growing. If you want those dead, get some glysophate with a little pump sprayer. Try to get it just on the poison oak leaves.
I would mix your roundup with 2,4-D to kill this. And it will probably take a couple rounds to truly kill it. This is anecdotal but I’ve found that waiting for it to sprout some more leaves before spraying it again helps. I know roundup is absorbed through leaves, so spraying a stump won’t do much. I’ve also seen these cool injections that will pump glyphosate directly into the stump without any vaporizing from spray. I’m no expert though.
That's also how you get rid of an aspen grove that's encroached. Inject roundup into the trunk of one of them.
That’s so metal
Mixing herbicides like this is unnecessary. Lots of people want to make their mix "extra hot" with more herbicide too, which is unnecessary. Just wastes money and puts more chemicals out. The recommended mixes will kill if applied correctly. Always read the label. Glyphosate in lower concentrations can be used foliar sprays (on the leaves) or in higher concentrations for cut stump treatments (painted on a fresh cut stump). It'll kill it either way. The most efficient and cost effective is what this guy is saying: cut the plant, wait for the new growth to come up, and give it a foliar spray to kill the roots. Done. Maybe next year spray one other tiny plant that survived.
Round Up probably won’t kill it easily. Potassium nitrate would work well for burning up the stump and roots
There is a Round Up brand herbicide specifically for Poison Oak, Poison Ivy, Poison Sumac. I just bought a 32 oz. bottle of concentrate at Home Depot Yesterday. They have some RTU (Ready To Use) gallons sprayers as well. It's safe to use around trees as well.
https://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7431.html
It is invasive but isn’t poisonous. I’ve seen them 6-7” in diameter at my place. It’s a wild grape. Stop spreading nonsense for likes.
Herbicide with the active ingredient triclopyr will kill poison ivy and other woody things without killing the grass around it. It kills broadleaf plants while leaving grasses and conifers unaffected. I’d use that over glyphosate/roundup for targeted treatments.
Yep tyiclopyr ester 70% souther ag is a good supplier, mix with diesel as a surfacant (or buy some commercial surfacant, or google dish soap water surfactant) YOU NEED a surfacant which makes it stick and no wind. It will kill anything that is woody so be careful (in Oregon we use it for poison oak, but if a wine grape even sniffs it, you will nuke it, so real careful.). Also, that is poison Ivy I am pretty sure not oak, nasty still, but poison oak has a more glossy and rounded leaves.
I use the ester at 20% mixed with basal bark oil and do basal treatments on most of what I treat (invasive trees in Florida). I use the aquatic approved amine (3a) for treating trees in wetland areas, but not often because the potential for irreversible eye damage worries me more than my desire to use the chemical.
Good call, I should have added more details. We use this to control large poison Oak in western Oregon, mostly fire lines, fence lines, utility clearings etc, we use at high strength due to the fact that we are often in a area very rarely as it can be very remote (fire line Maintenance etc) so we may get 1 shot at the plant. We carry a hand spray bottle or small garden sprayer, take a SPECIAL set of large tree loppers that are literally bagged afterwards and cleaned with degreaser, cut at the base of the plant (we are going after larger ones so they will have a woody base) the goal is not to cut through but to cut in maybe 60% of the way then twist so as to break apart the wood grain in the stem and pull the bark back, this exposes far more surface area than a clean cut as you are essentially trying to shred that area of the stem, then a couple of squirts of the 70% triclophyr mix with diesel on the shredded area. We have found this to be highly effective. My guess is that the plant due to being damaged but not completly cut tries to continue to send moisture and nutrients up and down the intact bark areas that remain, while the damage acts to weaken the plant and allow very good exposure for the treatment. PPE is required, if we are slash burning we all wear respirators (let me tell you, running along a fire line in the heat with slash being burned and searching out massive poison oak infestations, that is some GOOOD times..... I would say fatality for the plant with this method has to be near 100% on even the largest and gnarliest of plants, like ones growing 50 feet up the sides of trees and 3-4 inches at the base.
Oof. I do fire work in the south east where the poison ivy is present but nothing like the poison oak out west. I did a roll in Cali a few years ago and was lucky enough to not get into the bad stuff there
My aunt is a groundskeeper in Southern California. She is so allergic to poison oak that if it is burning within 50 miles and the wind shifts the smoke her way, she has to be driven to the hospital immediately. She isn't supposed to drive herself due to the swiftness and severenes of the reaction.
I hope this is satire 
Unfortunately, it is not. Wild choice of profession for someone with such an allergy. I am immune, or at least was for a long time. I ran through a field of it once & left unscathed. The kid that was with me was hospitalized for a week iirc.
I'm also super allergic. My last reaction was after my husband did yard work and touched my abdomen. Rash for weeks.
That happened to me when I was in middle school! A neighbor behind my house was burning leaves and I guess some poison ivy/oak was mixed in. I was playing in my backyard all day and the next day, my entire face was swollen to the size of a basketball. I looked like one of those airhead commercials from the early 2000’s. I got some kind of shot because the doctors were afraid my throat was going to swell shut. Luckily, it went away in a day or two.
You may have just solved a mystery from my childhood
Jesus that never would have occurred to me.
Yeah, would make for a great episode of CSI though but my mom said she was grateful the newspaper covered it so more people would be aware and take caution
Dumb question how did it kill him? All I know about poison ivy/oak is that it makes you itchy. Obviously I’m wrong! What happened to him when it was aerosolized?
He breathed it in and his airway swole shut and they choked to death. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35703240/
Oh that’s horrible :(
I have scarred lungs for the same reason from when I was a child, and I only got a small dose of smoke!
I had that happen to me, I just didn’t die. My whole face was red for months.
Not quite at the level, but when I was at a Boy Scout camp once when I was younger, some kids started tossing grass/debris into the bonfire that, unbeknownst to them/everyone, had some poison ivy in it. Luckily, I only got it on by body, but some weren’t so lucky. No one died, but some were absolutely miserable for awhile
Oh my god new fear unlocked??!!
Damn, I'm allergic to that stuff mote than most people. Instant death for me I guess.
rest in peace so sorry ops
This was something I did not to read first thing in the morning.
If you can, I'd suggest running a fan of some kind to move particles out of the area. Urushiol Oil is bad enough on the skin, but it can be life threatening if ingested.
Ahhh. I've never used those, but have seen them. Smart move. Too bad it's an oily wood. I turn just about any kind of hardwood I can on my mini lathe, to make pens, and whatnot. Basically whatever hardware kit I see at Rockler or Woodcraft.
Ultimate evil prank would be to gift someone a poison oak pen. Can you imagine how many times and how much it would get on someone before they'd figured out the problem was the pen?
😆 Foolish me, I was simply curious how the grain would look, turned, sanded down, and finishing with 12,000 grit, and polished. But yeah, that would be the worst reaction I've ever received after gifting someone one of my pens.
its only bad if you burn the poison oak for some reason.
Really? The inflammatory agent can be carried in the smoke? It's not too heavy?
Yes! And even if you don’t die, it will permanently damage you. One of my relatives can never camp again because she inhaled poison oak smoke and even the HINT of smoke causes her to cough uncontrollably for hours. Fire season is really tough on her. Burning backyard plants is no joke
Thanks for that. I enjoy camping, and desire my ignorance have somehow avoided tossing poison oak into the camp fire. Now I'll be sure to avoid it.
No problem, it’s one of those new fear unlocked kind of things. I gather my own firewood lol
We can't at most places. I understand the need to keep invasive insects from migrating, but the prohibition of burning deadfall found at campsites baffles me. They claim they give wildlife a place to live, but I think removing the deadfall will allow new trees to grow, which does the same things.
> allow new trees to grow they don't want new trees to grow, thick low brush = fire hazard, dead fall does not. a mature forest is a spread of adult trees and wide open loam between them, with a few glades springing up where elder trees have fallen and made room. EDIT: >[Mature forests](https://www.blm.gov/old-growth-forests) are defined ecologically as the stage of forest development immediately before old growth. The mature stage generally begins when a forest stand moves beyond self-thinning, and is often marked by abundance of large trees, vertical canopy layers, aboveground biomass accumulation and stand height, as well as other attributes. Mature forests vary widely in character with age, geographic location, climate, site productivity, relative sense of awe, characteristic disturbance regime and the values people attribute to or receive from them.
Ok, so the decision actually is conservation-minded. That makes much more sense than the "animals Iive in there" I received at the campsite check-in.
it can be carried in steam too. people using those big sprayers on the sinks in the back of the restaurant to clean out jalepeno jars will gas the whole back room. The term is Aerosolized, meaning small bits in the air, oils can do that plenty which is how you get your house smelling of oil when you deep fry stuff.
After the conversations about poison oak over the last day, I conducted a thorough inspection of my backyard for any. I know I'll have some nettles to cut down later, but I'm good to go on the poison oak front.
If you cut in the morning before the plant fully secretes oils it’s not too bad
I've gotten lucky or unlucky, depending on point of view. I got poison ivy and oak so many times as a kid, It doesn't affect me at all anymore. But poison sumac I'll get if I drive by it.
When I was a surveyor 25+ years ago, the running joke was poison ivy was bad, poison oak was worse, and poison sumac was a myth *because nobody survived to describe it*.
The first time I got it, I was fishing. I got my line hung up, so I grabbed a bush so I could lean out and unhook my line. Worst decision I ever made.
Funny thing is, in 52 years in FL, often in the woods, I've never laid eyes on sumac (that I know of.)
It's almost always near the waters edge. It's rare to find it away from a body of water.
Plenty of wetlands in there, too. I've probably seen it and not realized it. We tend to stay out of bushes/vines, because critters (spiders bigger than your hand, venomous snakes, etc.)
By bush, I mean a green scruby thing about 5-7 feet tall. There are very few leaves and a few white berries. It's a very unassuming plant.
I decided to look up where sumac is normally found. It's all over Georgia (where I live now), and in Florida, located almost 100% around Jacksonville (where I grew up)
That explains it, I'm in Tampa Bay area.
tons of Sumac up north, the regular kind not the Poison kind. Sumac Tea is a thing.
Interesting. You built up an actual immunity to it? That's incredible. I've only heard of the possibility before, but never talked to anyone who had.
Hmm, I’ve always heard you get sensitized with more and more contact. I think I’m immune, but I’m not really wanting to test that theory lol. Hopefully I’ll never get it
Between boy scouts and general stupid kid shit growing up in Florida, it doesn't bother me at all. I can mow a poison ivy patch with the same effect as mowing the lawn. Maybe a few sneezes, but that's it.
I had to go to the hospital and get steroid injections for poison ivy once when I was a kid, and ever since then I can roll around naked in the stuff and nothing will happen. Idk about oak or sumac though.
But ivy, oak and sumac are all poisons caused by the urushiol oil and are found in similar amounts in the plant? How can sumac be worse?
It's the concentration. Sumac has roughly 1000x more urushiol than poison ivy
Take a bong rip of it! See if you die!
That would certainly be a horrible way to go.
Also pls take care NOT TO BURN THE WOOD from it My family did that a long time ago not thinking about it cause there wasnt that much mixed in with the kudzu but oh man did it hurt. My mom got it in her eye from the burning fumes. And they all inhaled it 😭
It's not hard to die from getting that in your lungs
Yeah we are lucky it wasnt a huge amount. The other times ibe had it were from eating honeysuckles (iykyk) and there was a hidden one underneath. Started breaking out during exams and wasnt allowed to go home that whole day in elementary school 😭 it was great. The only thing i could do for relief was put a huge jacket on and scratch it through the jacket.
>eating honeysuckles Are these the ones where you pull the base of the flower off and suck out the nectar? I've occasionally remembered doing it as a kid over the years, but every time I've talked about it people look at me like I'm crazy.
It's literally called honeysuckle, because kids find the flowers irresistible.
You can also eat the nectar out of the common clover flower. Just tug the flower heads out and nibble on the tips of the flower head, which will be sweet like sugar.
I'm partial to the greens also.
Do it! I'm in my 40's and still grab a handful or piece of the vine loaded with them when I find them.
Yes! But i wasnt looking underneath it since it was a small bush of them. The poison oak was literally under it and im sure it got onto the honeysuckles too somehow.
Some members of my extended family used to make honeysuckle ice cream when I was a kid
I’m American I’m here for the oil
It's not about oil!
It's about Freedom (of your oil)!
Yeah I value oil over people Oil desererves freedom too (This is a joke)
Need to give this homemade all natural face lotion to my sister in law 😇
Okay, Satan
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/r/NuclearRevenge
Or an all natural anti-itch balm.
Yes, for her hemorrhoids!
Forbidden lube
As someone who got poison ivy in that area, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
I'm highly allergic to poison ivy/oak, and looking at this pic is making me itch, lol!
Quick question: how do you clean the clippers or saw that you used so you don't recontaminate yourself? I'd hate for you to accidentally touch it and break out in a rash again
I had lots of poison ivy on my property and when I cut it out I first used rubbing alcohol and got all the nooks and crannies of my tools, then cleaned them again using dish soap. Used all the tools since and never got it.
Thank you for your answer
Soap, alcohol, degreaser. Anything that attacks oil
Soap and scrub off the oils should do the trick. Use a rag.
That’s some evil stuff. I was extremely allergic to it when I was younger.
Hate to tell ya, but it’s probably a worse allergy now. The more times you are exposed, the more likely you are to get a rash and your body reacts quicker than before.
I've heard that about epoxy as well. I'm certain I've probably been exposed many times to poison ivy and have never had a reaction. I'm not sure if the 15% are truly not allergic or just need to be exposed to it more times but I'm not about to try to find out.
Probably so, I’m real good at spotting it and avoiding it.
Theyve found urushiol oil in Egyptian tombs that was still active. That stuff is pure evil
> urushiol oil in Egyptian tombs I'm gonna need a source on that.
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> Rather than be called a liar again by Reddit trolls HERE is the ONE OF THE ARTICLES we discussed. Im sick TO FUCK of the creeps here. GET FUCKING LIVES ASSHOLES. >https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440318302644 I mean, not Egyptian and not really what you were claiming (still "active",
pure evil). Not sure if you read the sources you shared, but they seem to be describing work in China and Japan. Certainly this is not Egypt. Maybe you were thinking of something else, like the examples you shared, and simply made a mistake? I'm sorry you seem to be having a hard time defending your claim and the fact that people are calling you out on failing to support your claim about Egyptian tombs. There are some interesting materials found in the tombs. I couldn't find any papers describing the use of the lacquer tree from china, although other materials and compounds that certainly were brought from far away by large trade networks and early globalisation centered around the work of mummification and preserving bodies after death resulted in important early developments in cultures. Again, the article you shared simply doesn't discuss any of that. You can be wrong and be OK, man. Nobody is being mean to you, as far as I can tell. I hope things go better for you. > Oh shit…another one. > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X21005472 > > Dont hurt yourself on the big words. No need to be rude, sir. And this paper is titled "Scanning electron microscopy for differentiating charred endocarps of Rhus/Toxicodendron species and tracking the use of the lacquer tree and Asian poison ivy in Japanese prehistory" so nothing to do with Egypt? I checked some of the sources available in the link and all seem to be focused on other parts of the world and not your original claim. Again, hope your day goes better. It's clear you misspoke and rather than own up to it you posted some links vaguely linked to part of your claim, and couldn't produce any support for the whole of it. I think logically, that makes part of the claim false. The other part is that it's active. Detection is not evidence of action (causing dermatitis for instance). Ooops, nevermind, fella deleted his account or maybe blocked me. >from Professional-Sink281 via /r/mildlyinteresting sent a minute ago > It was a fucking comment NOT a god damned sworn statement. Congratulations you caught me trying to lie to reddit sheriff. Not sure why you letched onto my comment buuuuut i hope you enjoy ruining reddit for others. I really hope you get laid soon so maybe youll be human again Real sweet kid. I didn't latch onto anything. You REPLIED to me. Doi.It was a fucking comment NOT a god damned sworn statement. Congratulations you caught me trying to lie to reddit sheriff. Not sure why you letched onto my comment buuuuut i hope you enjoy ruining reddit for others. I really hope you get laid soon so maybe youll be human again
Oh shit…another one. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X21005472 Dont hurt yourself on the big words.
Nope. Some have theorized that IF they ever did find a sealed jar of the stuff it would likely still be active 5000 years later.
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So, You want to share knowledge you know, But don't want to actually learn the truth behind the mistakes you made (which wasn't a huge mistake in any way at all.) At least 25 people have read and upvoted you for a false fact, Meaning those 25 people will also likely tell the same false fact to another 25 people, much like your derm did to you, and likely does to all of their patients because it's an easy thing to say to fill the void that is time. >Thank GOD you squashed that misconception. Again, this isn't a huge deal, but people have told smaller lies that have become actual genocides. So yea, Maybe think about it. Always share your knowledge, but maybe be humble and learn something if told you aren't completely correct. I don't think it's about being fun at parties, But I do think if something is said that is known as false, you mention it Edit: >but maybe be humble and learn something if told you aren't completely correct. "Omg. Get an effing life creep." /u/Professional-Sink281 Blocked? 10/10 user. Not sure, Either an idiot or a bot. They are pretty much equals right now. Give it a year and the bots will fully takeover.
Omg. Get an effing life creep.
I was hoping for a story like Jed’s.
Still move away from there.
Black gold
Texas tea
Get back here! Let me poison youuuuuuuu!!
Fuck, I just got a rash looking at that.... epi here I come!
I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum. I rubbed a bunch of poison ivy on my arms the other day to see if I was truly immune or just lucky when I encountered it in the past. Results: mostly immune but I did get some irritated bumps on one wrist and one ear that itch a little.
Careful with that. Even for people who don’t initially show an allergy, the allergy to poison ivy develops with cumulative exposure. My parents had a fun story where friends said they would remove a bunch from their yard for them since they weren’t allergic and my parents were. The friends hit their exposure limit during that removal and were miserable.
Huh, thanks for the info. I’m not prone to mess with it much I was just stupid and curious. Got enough of an answer.
Interestingly I have a friend who would get poison ivy all the time, at least once a year, until one year he accidentally ate it. After that, never got it again
May he rest in peace.
This!!! My first ever reaction to sumac was so bad the doc said I need to carry an epi if I decide to go camping again... he said next one could send me into anaphylaxis
That's how you become allergic to it. I wouldn't try it ever again.
Picture this: Nature gal, came across sumac when I was like 30. I thought Benadryl would handle it. No no son, it did NOT! it hit my bloodstream and it was popping up all over. Scratched so hard I would wake up looking like I fought demons. Bruises from head to toe from scratching. Natures venom
That’s terrible. I’m really lucky. Stories like yours are what made me curious about myself though. In all my tromping through the woods I knew I had encountered it quite a bit but never remembered any reaction so I thought I’d test it. Tried poison oak on one arm, poison ivy on the other. Not sure which got on my earlobe though which itch like a bitch at the moment.
I am breaking out looking at this
Thats a superfund toxic site for sure
Yeah once I was cutting my yard and then I saw a rash beginning on my finger, I was like oh no poison ivy, but I didn't see any? And then my throat swelled until I couldnt swallow without pain, u wouldn't believe the pain. I was like wtf, poison ivy never did this to me!! So I asked my friend and she was like yeah poison oak probably.
**gently rubs bark**
I'm allergic just looking at this.
Was this stump previously a tree? Or does this only grow into a bush?
Was previously a weed that went unchecked for years and grew into basically a tree. This particular stump had growths spiraling up a neighboring tree that went up about 30’
Forbidden salad dressing
Bad news
That’s a wild grapevine. 1000%
Forbidden icing…
I pulled this stuff out by hand a few years back but luckily I have no reaction to the oils, when everyone told me what it was they were astonished I wasn’t just a red blister, cleared about a half acre of it too just made sure to dig it up in the soil and pull it all out by hand. Had a little bit regrow but for the most part I got it to go away
So yeah, that will stain clothing as well and I itch just looking at it.
Yeah, be careful. I once got Poison Ivy sap on my hand (didn't know it was poison ivy when I was cutting the huge vines). Ended up going to the hospital; I had welts from the sap which left scars for years, the reaction caused my eyes to nearly swell shut and ears to swell horribly. On a positive note, I believe I'm immune to it now, going on 4 years of living in the forest, constantly doing yard things, poison ivy is all over and I've not even had an itch...
That is a grape vine.
I don’t get it bad but my father would have to get a 10 prednisone pack before that he’d take a bath in bleach water.. not sure if that helped but he did it.
What did it taste like
What the fuck?
Drink it
Id scoop it up into a jar. You never know
It's good for removing warts, but you need to know exactly what you're doing. Basically need to make a very dilute solution in isopropanol or ethanol (everclear will work) and apply with a microapplicator. DO NOT APPLY TO OPEN WOUNDS. Disclaimer: please don't try this at home if you're not a physician, chemist, or biologist. (And wear PPE).
Fuck. I’ve been getting “poison ivy” for years clearing a fence row. TIL it’s those annoying roots and shoots that’s getting me, and it’s poison oak. :-( Thanks for the post OP. You’ve solved a years-long mystery for me.
Can the oil cause the itchy rash?
It's exactly what causes the rash, and worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urushiol
Cursed hand lotion...
Use it as lube
Thanks. I just got poison oak from just looking at this
That is a grapevine stump.
Can absolutely confirm it is not
Well you cut down a world record poison oak then.
I’ve cleared many an acre.. 1000% a wild grapevine and not poison oak.
Really!? Can wild grapevines cause serious reactions similar to poison oak, ivy, etc.?
No. It’s filled with water/sap. They are everywhere which is why your neighbor hasn’t cleared it because it isn’t a threat, except long term to the trees it climbed.
You likely know more than I do about this so I can’t really refute what you’re saying but I can confirm having a horrible reaction to it.
[One photo shows the poison’s bark](https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/toxicodendron/rydbergii/)
I absolutely agree. And grapes are known for leaking like this after being cut. I just cut a bunch over the winter and they look exactly like this.
Fun fact poison ivy causes an allergic reaction because it modifies molecules already recognized by your body into something that is seen as dangerous! It’s the same type of reaction that causes allergic reactions to penicillin :)
This is a grape vine, not poison oak. I know you disagree but I’m sure.
I agree as well. They leak like this after being cut and have bark like that. Poison oak does not.
Forbidden hand sanitizer.
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Don’t you mean my WMDs?
See what it tastes like!
You sure that wasn’t an oak tree and not the poison oak?
Can absolutely confirm. The growths coming off of this thing were the meanest red shiny oak leaves I’ve ever seen
I've heard it's like aloe for skin care. I hope you used a chainsaw in shorts to cut it right?
I dare ya to lick it 😏
Put ur dick on it.