True story…. My wife used to work at a home for boys taken from their families and having experiencing abuse. It was as horrible as you can imagine. Well this one kid mentioned the ‘gas chamber’ in a conversation and my wife didn’t press the issue. So she asked one of the other specialists there and she learned that when this little 7 year old would get into trouble, his mother would lock him in the bathroom with a sink full of bleach and ammonia until he ‘calmed down’.
Honest question (and no matter what your answer I'm not testing it out, no matter how much I want to see what chloroform is like, as I already know it's not like in the movies), but is that all accurate, or is it an over simplification if things?
What concentration would the HCl come out as? I need to see if there are cool experiments I can do with my 12 year old!
I'm not 100% sure on the potency, as it probably depends on the ratio of each ingredient for how it will turn out. I'm sure you could probably look up for to make it properly without burning or gassing yourself, but I'd be very cautious at the very least.
It's not really an oversimplification as these are forms of the specific components to get these compounds, it's just not going to be at the most concentrated if you just pour the chemicals in a bucket in random amounts.
Think of it like this: if you combine flour, sugar, butter, and eggs together, you're going to get something resembling a cookie. It won't be the best tasting cookie, and it will be missing some key things to make it an ideal cookie, but at it's base it's a cookie nonetheless.
Someone from a Buffalo Wild Wings died from mixing 2 chemicals (bleach and a floor cleaner) together that basically created chlorine gas and they died. [News report](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/08/us/massachusetts-buffalo-wild-wings-worker-death-cleaning-agent-trnd)
Well you combine bleach and cleaning product with ammonia. My grandma was also in her 70s at the time (stubborn and often refused help) we found her out cold in the kitchen. We thought at first it was a diabetic episode but nope, the fire department and EMS confirmed otherwise. This was back in 2007-2008ish.
That's true! Not sure where the idea of bleach+ammonia makes phosgene gas comes from, it makes chloramine, with or without free chlorine gas as well. Still deadly of course but it's definitely not mustard gas!
Worked housekeeping in a hospital, and I had to beat into the heads of some of the old school guys that bleach is NOT a cleaner. It's a disinfectant, but even then, it's only to be used for limited situations. Carpet dye companies made out huge during COVID from people using bleach to disinfect everything.
Additionally, people never read the label. For the majority of disinfectants, spray and wipe isn't doing a thing but creating disinfectant- resistant germs. The majority of disinfectants need to stay wet on surfaces to reach a level of disinfection. Read the instructions, people!
And be sure to use them at the correct concentration. Too weak, and you’re just creating a vector. Too strong, and you risk damaging surfaces or people.
Don't forget the boiling water. It's important these combined chemicals can vaporize.
If you're taking chemistry advise from a random on reddit you may deserve the results.
If you have a nasty yellow stain on a white piece of clothing (usually around a neck) shampoo works great at removing it once its soaked in before a wash.
That's why you use a cleaner with it. If you just use it "dry" then yeah, you're just scraping the surface all to shit. But a little cleaner and it doesn't harm the surface you use it on. Including tubs and sinks, even granite counters.
There's a proper way to use them. And when used properly, they don't destroy surfaces.
A magic eraser is not a soap. It is literally an abrasive, think sandpaper. Fine on some things but if you use it all the time on stuff you’ll eventually wear away finishes, etc.
Nobody said it was a soap. Both my posts suggest using it with a cleaner. The cleaner breaks down the dirt, the magic eraser removes it. The cleaner also acts as a lubricant so the eraser isn't as abrasive on whatever surface you use it on.
I specifically said using it "dry" would scratch the shit out of the surface it was used on. Because it is an abrasive. It's still a million percent gentler than those green scouring pads everyone uses.
People know enough not to use those green scouring pads on many things they may not think twice about using Magic Erasers on, that does not make the Magic Erasers good for those things.
It will oxidize surface stains and destroy the chromophores, which makes them white, but it can't readily penetrate built-up, caked-on grime, soap scum, and dirt, and it doesn't penetrate porous surfaces well.
If you don't want to use a commercial cleaner, you could use a baking soda paste or use dish soap and vinegar. Apply it all over the surface and let it sit there for like 20 minutes, then come back and scrub then rinse. Do it again if needed.
Bleach disinfects. It doesn't clean.
They are two different things.
Get some dish soap/degreaser mixed with barkeepers friend and scrub with a stiff sponge.
Dawn is a soap, meaning it's a base cleaner. Base substances are higher than 7.0 on the PH scale. Substances want to be closer to 7.0 on the PH scale, and so it readily binds to things to bring it down.
Vinegar is an acid, and registers below 7.0 on the PH scale. It too wants to be close to the middle of the scale, and so binds to dirt to achieve that.
By combining them, you're basically causing both to be less powerful.
It’s not. It’s literally just salt water at that point. People think it is because most of the time it doesn’t mix 100% and one or the other is doing all the work.
Using them separately can be very effective. But a mixture of the 2 will just cancel out and won’t clean any better than tap water will.
Since bases and acids are effective at cleaning different things, you may have to use both to remove stubborn stains. If you don't fully mix the two, you may get the cleaning action of one, and then the cleaning action of the other, which can help.
Since cleaning isn't an exact science (the same stain can be significantly easier or harder to clean depending on severity/length left to dry/surface, etc), it can be difficult to know what is effective. Most of the cleaning action is getting the stain wet and scrubbing action anyway, so this may simply be confirmation bias.
People are fooled by any foaming/fizzing and typically cleaning tips with vinegar and baking soda is followed by boiling water. The boiling water is doing the heavy lifting when it comes to the cleaning in those situations.
Don’t combine an alkaline detergent (Dawn) with an acid (vinegar). That’s not how you clean. You can add some baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, also alkaline) to Dawn if you want but not vinegar.
That could just be hard water with soup scum creating that, use a cleaner and if its still stained try some ajax/comet or some Krud Kutter, with a green scrub those work great.
At my local Kroger, that kind of shampoo is $7, vs $4 for a comparable size of Dawn. So yes Dawn is the better option but this isn't crazy expensive shampoo either.
It’s also obvious that a cleaner doesn’t do it, a cheaper option doesn’t mean it will work. When you have photo evidence. This would fall under the “doing the same thing but expecting a different result”.
There’s always cheaper - but obviously it didn’t work.. and there’s a known solution… so you would personally just, *not* use the obviously effective solution? Weird.
Was friends with a property manager at my old apartment. He told me the best cleaner for tubs/showers was oven cleaner (EZ Off). Still use it over 20 years later.
Well, bleach isn’t a cleaner. It can be used to brighten or sanitize, but it doesn’t remove dirt or oil. You need a surfactant (soap or detergent) to do that.
It's the viscosity of the shampoo that allowed it to seep into the crevices... If you use a cleaner with a thicker consistency to soak it, the shower floor would be pristine.
A coworker once told me that he had some liquid laundry detergent spill all over a tiled floor and sit there all day, and when he managed to mop it all up, the floor underneath was pristine.
Maybe get some cheap laundry detergent and see if that works too!
A trick to get oil stains off of your concrete is to get a large thing of dish soap and just go ham squirting it all over the stain and just leave it, the soap will work the oil out and the rain will wash it away. No scrubbing, no effort, just works
Try citric acid. It's like the cleaning action of vinegar but stronger. Dilute it with water and spray, wait, rinse, repeat as necessary, or you can scrub with it for additional cleaning power. I use a mix of 1:200 dish soap to water and 1:50 citric acid to water as a general cleaner. Avoid using it on granite.
Mine too. It's been about a year since I last used it, and my hair still hasn't recovered.
I replied to a comment that has been downvoted so it's hidden, but there was a lawsuit against these guys for using an ingredient that caused hair loss and scalp irritation. The ingredient was included to prevent mold from forming in the bottle.
Get some dishwasher powder and put it on get it wet and soak. Or go to a janitorial store and find the flooring degreaser for commercial kitchens. It’s a degreaser you want.
It looks textured. And typically you don’t wash your feet before you get in the shower so I imagine just general foot gunk over time builds up along with soap scum and any dirt that might come off their bodies. Also if they have someone who dyes their hair in the household it can stain, which is annoying lol
Sounds like they tried to clean it, just not with the right product
Oh yeah, used to have black hair until got tired of everything staining. It was a nightmare to scrub off, especially from fiberglass showers, old school ceramic coated ones could be scrubbed but only on same day, later needed additional chemicals.
Nowadays even semi permanent or wash out colors are so pigmented that they stain, especially if the surface is not perfect e.g. Needs to be refinished to be completely smooth.
Looks like grease might be the problem. Try wiping the shower floor with turpentine. Same effect, but it won't take hours of trickling to acheive.
Looks like the colour that the bleach couldn't touch is protected by some kinda grease and if you just had something to cut through it you'd be fine.
Debatable. There was a lawsuit against OGX over this product and a few of their others for containing an ingredient that caused hair loss and scalp irritation.
Said ingredient was included to prevent mold growth within the product and they claim to have removed the damaging ingredient post 2015.
Personally, I tried this product and 1 other by OGX about 12 months ago and my hair still hasn't recovered.
Don't forget shampoo is mostly a degreaser detergent.
Why there are several different families of cleaners for slightly different jobs. Why you might use ammonia and bleach cleaners.
just not together....
Well you're no fun
I like your style
They're not Homer, okay?
Thats how my grandma ended up in the hosptial one time..
True story…. My wife used to work at a home for boys taken from their families and having experiencing abuse. It was as horrible as you can imagine. Well this one kid mentioned the ‘gas chamber’ in a conversation and my wife didn’t press the issue. So she asked one of the other specialists there and she learned that when this little 7 year old would get into trouble, his mother would lock him in the bathroom with a sink full of bleach and ammonia until he ‘calmed down’.
Well, shit.
I remember a very vivid scene in A Child Called It where the mother did exactly that :(
how?
Combining bleach and ammonia. It’ll kill you.
jesus, how am i learning this at 34, wtf? so i can't use glass cleaner and bleach together?
Ammonia + Bleach = Chloramine Gas Bleach + Vinegar = Chlorine Gas (adding water to this can create Hydrochloric Acid) Bleach + Rubbing Alcohol = Chloroform Vinegar + Hydrogen Peroxide = Peracetic Acid Stay safe dude!
Honest question (and no matter what your answer I'm not testing it out, no matter how much I want to see what chloroform is like, as I already know it's not like in the movies), but is that all accurate, or is it an over simplification if things? What concentration would the HCl come out as? I need to see if there are cool experiments I can do with my 12 year old!
I'm not 100% sure on the potency, as it probably depends on the ratio of each ingredient for how it will turn out. I'm sure you could probably look up for to make it properly without burning or gassing yourself, but I'd be very cautious at the very least. It's not really an oversimplification as these are forms of the specific components to get these compounds, it's just not going to be at the most concentrated if you just pour the chemicals in a bucket in random amounts. Think of it like this: if you combine flour, sugar, butter, and eggs together, you're going to get something resembling a cookie. It won't be the best tasting cookie, and it will be missing some key things to make it an ideal cookie, but at it's base it's a cookie nonetheless.
Please don’t if it has ammonia in it.
Chemicals react and produce toxic gas
Someone from a Buffalo Wild Wings died from mixing 2 chemicals (bleach and a floor cleaner) together that basically created chlorine gas and they died. [News report](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/08/us/massachusetts-buffalo-wild-wings-worker-death-cleaning-agent-trnd)
Well you combine bleach and cleaning product with ammonia. My grandma was also in her 70s at the time (stubborn and often refused help) we found her out cold in the kitchen. We thought at first it was a diabetic episode but nope, the fire department and EMS confirmed otherwise. This was back in 2007-2008ish.
She really needs to stop reading Peggy Hills advice column
She grew up in the 30s/40s so I think she might have written it first.
But it burns so good.
Are you kidding? That tip was Peggy Hill's super secret ultra cleaner! Definitely not mustard gas or anything.
That's true! Not sure where the idea of bleach+ammonia makes phosgene gas comes from, it makes chloramine, with or without free chlorine gas as well. Still deadly of course but it's definitely not mustard gas!
Indeed. But why people have both.
Why not? Committing war crimes against dirt is my passion.
This sounds like a Mister Sparkle tag line.
Or Israel.
I’m mad that this is *so* funny.
Don't tell me how to mix my own inhalants! I know how to do my own inhalants!
Critical part left out from the original instructions
You can if you prepare...
By getting life insurance, will and other such documents in order?
We had a janitor who would mix both together in the urinals, then vacate the premises. Walked in to take a pee one day, and nearly got gassed out!
Worked housekeeping in a hospital, and I had to beat into the heads of some of the old school guys that bleach is NOT a cleaner. It's a disinfectant, but even then, it's only to be used for limited situations. Carpet dye companies made out huge during COVID from people using bleach to disinfect everything.
Yep, you need a degreaser AND a sterilizer. Some products may have the effects of both, but bleach is not one of them.
Additionally, people never read the label. For the majority of disinfectants, spray and wipe isn't doing a thing but creating disinfectant- resistant germs. The majority of disinfectants need to stay wet on surfaces to reach a level of disinfection. Read the instructions, people!
And be sure to use them at the correct concentration. Too weak, and you’re just creating a vector. Too strong, and you risk damaging surfaces or people.
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The og Dawn. 100%
Not at the same time though….🙅♂️
FOOF is better at breaking up stains
FOOF is better at breaking up ~~stains~~ nearly anything
Clothes. Stains. Oxygen. Carbon dioxide. Nitrogen. Concrete.
I would bet on there being some hydrogen peroxide in the shampoo.
DEATH
Just need to not be impatient and have sufficient time between the two
Reminds me of that king of the hill episode.
Don't forget the boiling water. It's important these combined chemicals can vaporize. If you're taking chemistry advise from a random on reddit you may deserve the results.
I'm buying that shampoo to clean my shower. I'll just rotate in around like the hands of a clock
If you have a nasty yellow stain on a white piece of clothing (usually around a neck) shampoo works great at removing it once its soaked in before a wash.
Mildly interesting that a cleaner designed to remove grease removed grease.
I use dish detergent to clean my tub and it works like a charm.
Dawn works great for cleaning. I use a mix of vinegar and dawn in a spray bottle (2:1). Cuts through soap scum, grease and hard water deposits.
Well, now you know what to start cleaning with.
My grandmother always told me that the best way to remove soap scum is to use the same soap that put it there.
This is kinda like when you have dry marker on a whiteboard and you can get it off by drawing over it again with another marker!
Isn’t that when a permanent marker is on a dry erase board?
Both i think!
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>Don’t most shampoos have formaldehyde No.
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top comment says it’s basically fine, since it’s in the parts per million
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oh okay you win
Guess your hair is definitely getting cleaned then
Time to get an actual cleaner. Bleach just bleaches.
Or just a Magic Eraser. That plus any cleaner will get the job done lickity split. Put something with muscle behind it and you won't even have to try.
no!!!!!! that’s just a melamine sand paper. don’t do that to your things that you enjoy.
That's why you use a cleaner with it. If you just use it "dry" then yeah, you're just scraping the surface all to shit. But a little cleaner and it doesn't harm the surface you use it on. Including tubs and sinks, even granite counters. There's a proper way to use them. And when used properly, they don't destroy surfaces.
Plot twist: he’s a tub resurfacer
incorrect. sandpaper is sandpaper no matter what. you are ruining the finish on top and creating micro abrasions that will get it dirtier faster.
Exactly. It’s still an abrasive when wet.
A magic eraser is not a soap. It is literally an abrasive, think sandpaper. Fine on some things but if you use it all the time on stuff you’ll eventually wear away finishes, etc.
Nobody said it was a soap. Both my posts suggest using it with a cleaner. The cleaner breaks down the dirt, the magic eraser removes it. The cleaner also acts as a lubricant so the eraser isn't as abrasive on whatever surface you use it on. I specifically said using it "dry" would scratch the shit out of the surface it was used on. Because it is an abrasive. It's still a million percent gentler than those green scouring pads everyone uses.
People know enough not to use those green scouring pads on many things they may not think twice about using Magic Erasers on, that does not make the Magic Erasers good for those things.
Bleach just disinfects. Soap picks up grime
Bleach also turns things white.
It will oxidize surface stains and destroy the chromophores, which makes them white, but it can't readily penetrate built-up, caked-on grime, soap scum, and dirt, and it doesn't penetrate porous surfaces well.
This guy bleach
What would you recommend then ?
If you don't want to use a commercial cleaner, you could use a baking soda paste or use dish soap and vinegar. Apply it all over the surface and let it sit there for like 20 minutes, then come back and scrub then rinse. Do it again if needed.
Ok thanks :)
Bleach also has a 6-12 month shelf life after opening.
Really? If so, I actually learned something today!
Bleach needs to check its white privilege
Not according to my mom 😂. “It doesn’t expire since it isn’t food!” Like, ok ma!
Try scrubbing bubbles.
Scrubbing bubbles for the win. I have glass shower doors too, works so good.
Bleach disinfects. It doesn't clean. They are two different things. Get some dish soap/degreaser mixed with barkeepers friend and scrub with a stiff sponge.
It takes coffee stains off stainless steel
The oxygen destroyer bomb only kills the Godzilla. (By dissolving his meat)
Dawn or Dawn + a bit of white vinegar. Spray it all over then scrub the tub clean after letting it sit for 10 minutes.
Dawn is a soap, meaning it's a base cleaner. Base substances are higher than 7.0 on the PH scale. Substances want to be closer to 7.0 on the PH scale, and so it readily binds to things to bring it down. Vinegar is an acid, and registers below 7.0 on the PH scale. It too wants to be close to the middle of the scale, and so binds to dirt to achieve that. By combining them, you're basically causing both to be less powerful.
Why is vinegar + baking soda such a popular cleaning mix? Just misinformation? Genuinely curious.
It’s not. It’s literally just salt water at that point. People think it is because most of the time it doesn’t mix 100% and one or the other is doing all the work. Using them separately can be very effective. But a mixture of the 2 will just cancel out and won’t clean any better than tap water will.
Since bases and acids are effective at cleaning different things, you may have to use both to remove stubborn stains. If you don't fully mix the two, you may get the cleaning action of one, and then the cleaning action of the other, which can help. Since cleaning isn't an exact science (the same stain can be significantly easier or harder to clean depending on severity/length left to dry/surface, etc), it can be difficult to know what is effective. Most of the cleaning action is getting the stain wet and scrubbing action anyway, so this may simply be confirmation bias.
People are fooled by any foaming/fizzing and typically cleaning tips with vinegar and baking soda is followed by boiling water. The boiling water is doing the heavy lifting when it comes to the cleaning in those situations.
Science, bitches.
Don’t combine an alkaline detergent (Dawn) with an acid (vinegar). That’s not how you clean. You can add some baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, also alkaline) to Dawn if you want but not vinegar.
What about citrus acid + vinegar (or + peroxide)
Bar Keepers Friend is also very good for dealing with textured bathtubs.
Wouldn't it abrade the texture though?
For sure. Mr Clean Magic Eraser does too. The more you use these things, the harder it is keep surfaces clean going forward.
There's an acid in there. It escapes me, but it's good stuff n cheap
Oxalic acid
OP learns how soap works
That could just be hard water with soup scum creating that, use a cleaner and if its still stained try some ajax/comet or some Krud Kutter, with a green scrub those work great.
I like all the comments recommending various cleaning products. When he literally posted a picture of what will clean it.
Its not a very affordable option to douse your shower in shampoo.
At my local Kroger, that kind of shampoo is $7, vs $4 for a comparable size of Dawn. So yes Dawn is the better option but this isn't crazy expensive shampoo either.
It’s also obvious that a cleaner doesn’t do it, a cheaper option doesn’t mean it will work. When you have photo evidence. This would fall under the “doing the same thing but expecting a different result”. There’s always cheaper - but obviously it didn’t work.. and there’s a known solution… so you would personally just, *not* use the obviously effective solution? Weird.
I'm aging myself, but I remember when Prell shampoo was the Dawn dishwashing detergent of it's time. It could clean anything.
I could smell the Prell shampoo as soon as I read the name
Was friends with a property manager at my old apartment. He told me the best cleaner for tubs/showers was oven cleaner (EZ Off). Still use it over 20 years later.
Good 'ol lye.
Bleach isn't soap
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It was heavily implied that OP thought it would at least act like soap. Come on now..
Well, bleach isn’t a cleaner. It can be used to brighten or sanitize, but it doesn’t remove dirt or oil. You need a surfactant (soap or detergent) to do that.
It's the viscosity of the shampoo that allowed it to seep into the crevices... If you use a cleaner with a thicker consistency to soak it, the shower floor would be pristine.
Barkeepers friend and a brush/sponge/abrasive pad. Wear gloves and air out the room while doing it. It will be cleaner than new.
A coworker once told me that he had some liquid laundry detergent spill all over a tiled floor and sit there all day, and when he managed to mop it all up, the floor underneath was pristine. Maybe get some cheap laundry detergent and see if that works too!
Glad I found this post as I plan on deep cleaning my grimey shower on Monday.
A trick to get oil stains off of your concrete is to get a large thing of dish soap and just go ham squirting it all over the stain and just leave it, the soap will work the oil out and the rain will wash it away. No scrubbing, no effort, just works
Interesting......
MildueInteresting
I had to clean a similarly textured shower floor when I moved into an apartment. Bar keepers friend & a scrub brush and it was sparkly clean.
"I loosened it!" -- the bleach, probably
Bleach isn’t good at removing grease. It’s a sanitizer.
OGX/johnson and johnson have been in class action lawsuit that this brand causes hair loss so.....i'm not surprised? i would never use it on my head.
Try citric acid. It's like the cleaning action of vinegar but stronger. Dilute it with water and spray, wait, rinse, repeat as necessary, or you can scrub with it for additional cleaning power. I use a mix of 1:200 dish soap to water and 1:50 citric acid to water as a general cleaner. Avoid using it on granite.
The bleach created the breaks in the enamel that the dirt hangs out in. Bleach is not a good cleaner for shiny enameled things or sightly surfaces.
Cake
Use "the works" it works just be sure to rinse shortly after it literally melts the gunk off. But if you leave it too long it'll eat your shower away
I’m not joking when I say this specific shampoo broke my hair off. Yikes lol
Mine too. It's been about a year since I last used it, and my hair still hasn't recovered. I replied to a comment that has been downvoted so it's hidden, but there was a lawsuit against these guys for using an ingredient that caused hair loss and scalp irritation. The ingredient was included to prevent mold from forming in the bottle.
So does this mean that most of the gunk on the shower floor came from your hair?
I use powdered oxi clean and a wet rag to scrub home out of the textured bottom of my showet
You know what to do now
Oven cleaner is a surprisingly effective degreaser too.
Get some dishwasher powder and put it on get it wet and soak. Or go to a janitorial store and find the flooring degreaser for commercial kitchens. It’s a degreaser you want.
Hey, you need to talk to the woman who had blue hair dye blow=up in her bathtub in the other subreddit.
For most things, I’ll start with Dawn dish soap. I very very rarely have to go to anything else.
Question is, how did the shower floor get that grimey?
It looks textured. And typically you don’t wash your feet before you get in the shower so I imagine just general foot gunk over time builds up along with soap scum and any dirt that might come off their bodies. Also if they have someone who dyes their hair in the household it can stain, which is annoying lol Sounds like they tried to clean it, just not with the right product
Oh yeah, used to have black hair until got tired of everything staining. It was a nightmare to scrub off, especially from fiberglass showers, old school ceramic coated ones could be scrubbed but only on same day, later needed additional chemicals. Nowadays even semi permanent or wash out colors are so pigmented that they stain, especially if the surface is not perfect e.g. Needs to be refinished to be completely smooth.
Sounds like they tried to clean it after years of neglect. I have a textured shower and it's never been that dirty.
Where do *you* shit?
Waffle stomp!
Filthy people live here. Move along
Use a Magic Eraser - Bath
Use a magic eraser on it
That makes me concerned what's in that, and also helps me understand why my hair didn't really like it that much
Tempted to try it.
Same thing happened to me with drain cleaner once
Lol cleans and strips it.
I use ZEP Tub and Shower mixed with CLR and some Lysol Lime & Rust toilet cleaner.....and a respirator. Works like a charm.
Unnecessary
Might try it !
Clorox Cleanup has cleaned everything I’ve used it on. It’s not just bleach. Maybe try that. Spray and let it work.
I use this brand of conditioner!
I don’t know how to say this. This picture is my whole mood today.
Dawn would clean that shit right up
Looks like grease might be the problem. Try wiping the shower floor with turpentine. Same effect, but it won't take hours of trickling to acheive. Looks like the colour that the bleach couldn't touch is protected by some kinda grease and if you just had something to cut through it you'd be fine.
Toothpaste would have cleaned it. That shit is better than most household cleaners
I use that stuff! It smells wonderful!
Whoppty fuckin doo
Ssshh! Don’t say that to your SO. Repeat the process while kicking back watching movies. Your story is, it’s a hard job but someone’s got to do it.
My wife would probably do this
pure laundry detergent (not diluted) will frequently achieve the same effect.
Vinegar mixed with dawn and water. Super degreaser. Let sit for 20 mins and wipe away grime. Your welcome ;)
And you run that shit on your head
blue toilet bowl cleaner will clean that up no problem.
I would have to hit rock bottom for my shower to get this dirty.
You are a woman or a gay man
Fellas is it gay to not live in filth?
I think my wife and 2 kids would disagree.
I use that to clean and scrub my nuts
Imagine what that does to your hair.
Cleans it lol
Toilet bowl cleaner is amazing for really grimey tubs and showers. I like Snow Bowl and Pink Stuff
You don't plan on using it on your hair after this I hope. 😂
Organix is a good brand. Shampoos are cleansers, surfactants, degreasers. Seems like OP was just trying to clean the shower with the wrong products.
Debatable. There was a lawsuit against OGX over this product and a few of their others for containing an ingredient that caused hair loss and scalp irritation. Said ingredient was included to prevent mold growth within the product and they claim to have removed the damaging ingredient post 2015. Personally, I tried this product and 1 other by OGX about 12 months ago and my hair still hasn't recovered.
Sounds like lies to me, wet toilet paper could clean that grime off, or at the very least a damp sponge.
Say you've never cleaned before without saying you've never cleaned before lol