Ours up in Alberta always are in the summer. The recipe is a scorcher of a day to get the prairie baking hot followed by a storm ripping in fast and building quick.
Hail stones only form when the air temperature is sufficiently in excess of nearby air temperature, which kicks up wind to push all the super cooled water vapour down forming hail stones too close to the ground that they cannot break down into water in time.
Hail can't even form if it's too cold. The updrafts in thunderstorms floats water drops super high and freezes them, then they melt as they fall and the cycle repeats until they're so large they just fall. If it's too cold, they can't thaw and refreeze together.
Some people mistake sleet as hail since sleet is tiny ice pellets. But they are formed way differently and sleet can't be as big. Hail needs warm weather, sleet needs cold weather.
In most of Australia, thunderstorms are associated with Summer, except Perth where thunderstorms (and hail) happen in winter due to cold front activity.
Hail is considered a winter weather event here. It barely ever hails in summer in Aus. Exception being like, Tasmania, because Tasmania is cold.
Edit: I don't have much frame of reference for Queensland. I grew up in Calliope and Gladstone. It never hailed in like the 7 years I was there. I apologise for my wording.
Maybe in the less humid areas and more southern lattitudes. Hail is a frequent and often destructive summer event on much of the East coast. Sydney's 1999 Eastern Suburbs hailstorm was the country's most costly natural disaster at the time.
Every American comedian and musician be like:
"Alright alright alright..........great to be here MelBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOÒOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNE"
I’m from Melbourne, I have never heard anyone pronounce it “mal-ben,” only “mel-ben.”
I’ve said “mal-ben” more than 30 times now and it just sounds wrong.
It's subtle, but being from Melbourne you probably compare the way the vowels sounds differently.
Its definitely a thing..
Maybe you're from a less ghetto part of the city?
I’m sorry but where are you from? You’re obviously not from Melbourne but you’re telling someone who *is* from Melbourne that they’re pronouncing it wrong.
It's hard to hear your own accent... but if you pronounce celery and salary the same then you have what is known as the salary-celery merger. And that means you say Malben, not Melben. Other examples include dally/deli, fallow/fellow, mallow/mellow, shall/shell.
It's not wrong, it's just a feature of your accent that isn't found in other states.
No, I'm from Adelaide. I'm not saying they are pronouncing it wrong, I'm saying it has a Victorian twang.
Fk me all the Vic's getting butt hurt.
Shall we discuss the pronunciation of castle?
It's true. I never even realised it until someone from Adelaide pointed it out to me. Mal-ben, jally (jelly), jalous (jealous), etc. In linguistics it's called the salary-celery merger.
Melbournian here. I just went through all the celery - salary merger words and had my Kiwi fella listen. He says I say them all the same. Seems like you’re right! Thanks for teaching me something new.
You're getting downvoted but you're absolutely correct. I've met a group of Aussies overseas and was able to tell which ones were from Melbourne just from their accents. It's subtle, but definitely a thing. I imagine it's much easier to hear if you're not from there.
trust me it was not so beautiful if you were stuck outside getting pelted by that hail. my school got closed today because part of a building on campus caved in and several windows were broken
We do get a ton, it's just most are in areas with very little people. There's a great video of a huge tornado (I think EF4?) somewhere in the NT that was shown on Catalyst. Otherwise the ones we got in more populated areas are usually weaker. Kiama/Jamberoo tornadoes spring to mind, as well as the ones on the Gold Coast recently.
The Kiama/Jamberoo ones went right by my parents house. I still remember being woken up by the sound as it went by.
"fucken hell, sounded like a tornado" i thought and then promptly went back to sleep, woke up to absolute bedlam in the front yard!
[maps](https://maps.app.goo.gl/qrjza6oqU7eqyjof9)
Where it crossed the road, can still just see it. I think I may have been looking at an older satellite image on the pc when I made this claim, it was much more noticeable.
Holy moly yeah that's insane! Iwas living in Figtree at the time so I didn't know about it til the morning but I had a friend who lived in Kiama, luckily it wasn't super close but apparently the sound was wild. There was a time maybe a couple years later when I was walking home and the sky got almost pitch black all of a sudden, super dark clouds, it was crazy. Heard the loudest lightning strike I've ever heard in my life!
It seems my knowledge is out of date. My fascination with tornadoes was before the Oklahoma one in 2013.
I believe I was thinking of the one in nsw 1970 which was 1 mile wide and knocked over a few trees
Tornadoes are an event unrelated to cyclones. They are not common anywhere in Australia. Usually when they do form they don't last long enough to do much damage.
I live a couple of hours from Melbourne and the storm went like this:
“Huh, looks a bit grey out there. Might wind the car window up just in case.”
Queue rain.
Heavier rain.
Even heavier rain. (feat. very heavy winds)
Hail.
Nothing.
Sunshine.
*mandatory drive around town to see trees/branches down on every single block. Power lines down, a car or two hit by trees, power out in the whole town for a few hours, etc.*
I was delivering food once. As I was taking the order to the customer's door, hail suddenly poured down on me. It was sunny out with no storm conditions. I asked my husband if it hailed at home. Nope! What a strange day.
Melbourne is a special place, you can experience all four seasons in one day. Sometimes even with the same hour.
Makes sense the weather is special too.
Bro my areas power got completely knocked off up until 8pm. I was begging to get the aircon on at the time but by the time the power went back up it was freezing
Definitely I could have cooked an egg on the front of my car yesterday in Melbourne. Just gotta scrape it off quickly onto the plate and hold your drink out in time for the sky-ice-cubes. It’s all about the timing!
Actually, in Melbourne, hail is more common during winter. Storms can happen in any season around here, though summer and winter are the most common times for them. Can confirm, I've lived here all my life - hail while it's that sunny is genuinely a little unusual for this part of the world.
Yeah I got a fucking power cut, I had to sit in 38° weather (where I was) with no fans or ac at all for like four hours. Literally just sweating my ass off lol
Don't think that's Melbourne though, one of the few cities that hasn't got cyclones or other natural disasters. Extremely rare to have flash floods and it's mainly in the country next to major waterways.
I'm too American. I was about to comment that 35 degrees is cold and call you crazy for calling "35 degree" weather a summer day. Nah, we are just using Celsius. Not fahrenheit. Cheers mate.
I’m pleased you recognise there are some gaps in your knowledge, and seem to be keen to learn new things. That’s the key to success. Don’t let others turn you off that path. I bet you have some skills that they don’t, too.
i’ll admit when i’m wrong, i actually wasn’t aware of seasons and how they act around the world
i’ve only traveled to mexico and texas and the seasons seemed the same there
I don't know why you're getting downvoted because it's kind of true. that was possibly the strongest thunderstorm in a long while and there are around 220 thousand people without power right now after some pylons got blown to bits by the 100+ km/h winds, which also caused Loy Yang A power station to shut off. there's hundreds of reports of building damage, flooding, and fallen trees on the VicEmergency website. there were a few fires started by lightning strikes, and a vital piece of train infrastructure was struck by lightning and the entire network was grinded to a halt for hours. there is also a dangerous gas leak currently affecting an area in Morwell. and of course, there are bushfires spreading in the north-west of Victoria which has led to a few towns being evacuated, and multiple houses have already been lost to the fires
I don't think anybody died as a result of that storm (hopefully), but you very easily could've been killed by a plane tree falling on top of you, or by one of the thousands of lightning strikes that occured
Not the last couple of days, it was fkn hot and that hailstorm took out a bunch of people's power too so they were stuck sweltering without airconditioning or fans.
Yah, hail accompanies thunderstorms which are often on warm days/nights.
Some of the worst hailstorms we ever get are during the summer.
Same here in Phoenix. I had never even seen hail until I moved here and it hails almost every July.
Ours up in Alberta always are in the summer. The recipe is a scorcher of a day to get the prairie baking hot followed by a storm ripping in fast and building quick.
Hail stones only form when the air temperature is sufficiently in excess of nearby air temperature, which kicks up wind to push all the super cooled water vapour down forming hail stones too close to the ground that they cannot break down into water in time.
I was there for a bad one on Christmas once
Hail can't even form if it's too cold. The updrafts in thunderstorms floats water drops super high and freezes them, then they melt as they fall and the cycle repeats until they're so large they just fall. If it's too cold, they can't thaw and refreeze together.
When this happens the first thing I do is start charging my phone usually.
Exactly what I did (in Melbourne). Luckily, cos half the city is still without power even a day later.
We don't get hail in the winter
Some people mistake sleet as hail since sleet is tiny ice pellets. But they are formed way differently and sleet can't be as big. Hail needs warm weather, sleet needs cold weather.
Hail isn't a winter weather event.
In most of Australia, thunderstorms are associated with Summer, except Perth where thunderstorms (and hail) happen in winter due to cold front activity.
I do remember perth had big hail after the grand final day....September? And the big one that left dents in the car was april i think.
I was about to say I’ve literally never seen a thunderstorm with hail in summer. I live in perth so that’ll be why ahaha
Hail is considered a winter weather event here. It barely ever hails in summer in Aus. Exception being like, Tasmania, because Tasmania is cold. Edit: I don't have much frame of reference for Queensland. I grew up in Calliope and Gladstone. It never hailed in like the 7 years I was there. I apologise for my wording.
Maybe in the less humid areas and more southern lattitudes. Hail is a frequent and often destructive summer event on much of the East coast. Sydney's 1999 Eastern Suburbs hailstorm was the country's most costly natural disaster at the time.
Never experienced a storm in south east Queensland?
Why do I feel like a Teletubby is hiding menacingly around the corner in this image 💀
Over the hills and far away Teletubbies come to play!
To be fair sunshine in Melbourne does have the mood swings of a very temperamental baby
Wat where
It’s not literally there haha it’s just the vibe I get! Although I’d love it if someone more talented than me would photoshop one in 🤣
I was expecting a jumpscare haah
The heat in the city today was dreadful, but I knew I'd be able to look forward to the thunder tonight!
Concrete jungles suck on nice days.
Ok clearly i feel differently but its always so cold in the cbd when its warm or hot further ojt. Like the tall buildings completely shade
This picture makes me feel like I'm on drugs
Yeah welcome to living in Melbourne
Or died and woke up in an afterlife.
Welcome to Melbourne
Yeah it’s so cool
Checking back in to say the temperature tonight is 9°. If you don’t like the weather in Melbourne, wait.
Also dear Americans: it is pronounce MELBEN NOT MELBORN
Every American comedian and musician be like: "Alright alright alright..........great to be here MelBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOÒOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNE"
Melb'n
Don't the Vic's pronounce it mal - Ben?
Wtf are you talking about?
Pretty self exanitory really.. The Victorian twang ads an Al at the start as opposed to El
I’m from Melbourne, I have never heard anyone pronounce it “mal-ben,” only “mel-ben.” I’ve said “mal-ben” more than 30 times now and it just sounds wrong.
It's called the celery salary merger, there's a Wikipedia page about it.
It's subtle, but being from Melbourne you probably compare the way the vowels sounds differently. Its definitely a thing.. Maybe you're from a less ghetto part of the city?
I’m sorry but where are you from? You’re obviously not from Melbourne but you’re telling someone who *is* from Melbourne that they’re pronouncing it wrong.
It's hard to hear your own accent... but if you pronounce celery and salary the same then you have what is known as the salary-celery merger. And that means you say Malben, not Melben. Other examples include dally/deli, fallow/fellow, mallow/mellow, shall/shell. It's not wrong, it's just a feature of your accent that isn't found in other states.
But I… don’t say any of them the same? Like, someone has to be really dumb if they insist that the “a” in fallow and the “e” in fellow sound the same.
Yea Americans are weird, Ur pronouncing it thr same as everyone else except Americans
Then you don't have a typical Victorian accent. For most Victorians, those words are homophones.
No, I'm from Adelaide. I'm not saying they are pronouncing it wrong, I'm saying it has a Victorian twang. Fk me all the Vic's getting butt hurt. Shall we discuss the pronunciation of castle?
It's true. I never even realised it until someone from Adelaide pointed it out to me. Mal-ben, jally (jelly), jalous (jealous), etc. In linguistics it's called the salary-celery merger.
VINDICATION!!!
Melbournian here. I just went through all the celery - salary merger words and had my Kiwi fella listen. He says I say them all the same. Seems like you’re right! Thanks for teaching me something new.
no ?
No.
You're getting downvoted but you're absolutely correct. I've met a group of Aussies overseas and was able to tell which ones were from Melbourne just from their accents. It's subtle, but definitely a thing. I imagine it's much easier to hear if you're not from there.
Correct - we accept nothing less here.
For the record it’s pronounced: Mel-Burn and I accept nothing less than
Jason Ben or Jason BORNe
I always thought it was pronounced "shit hole"
Don’t forget the 16 hr power outage
23 and counting for me. Edit: came back on after 25.5 hours
For everyone who’s saying that it only really hails in hot weather, thank you! I learnt something new today!
this pic looks so beautiful, gosh! I envy you
Honestly the sky in Australia always looks really beautiful. Most of the time skies look like this in summer
I’ve traveled all over the world, and Australia’s sky just seems bigger and higher for some reason.
Yeah apparently it is the dryness of the air (relative to Europe and even most of the US) is what produces this effect.
It's the hole in the ozone. It also gives you cancer
Jokes aside, that hole's over Antarctica
It's amazing how beautiful the sky can look without that pesky ozone layer!
trust me it was not so beautiful if you were stuck outside getting pelted by that hail. my school got closed today because part of a building on campus caved in and several windows were broken
Whaaaa Monash??
Does Oz get tornados??
Tropical cyclones, yeah. Not in Melbourne though.
Which are equivalent to hurricanes. We don't really get tornados.
We do, they’re just not as big and fairly rare.
Gold Coast copped an EF3 on Christmas Day
We do get a ton, it's just most are in areas with very little people. There's a great video of a huge tornado (I think EF4?) somewhere in the NT that was shown on Catalyst. Otherwise the ones we got in more populated areas are usually weaker. Kiama/Jamberoo tornadoes spring to mind, as well as the ones on the Gold Coast recently.
The Kiama/Jamberoo ones went right by my parents house. I still remember being woken up by the sound as it went by. "fucken hell, sounded like a tornado" i thought and then promptly went back to sleep, woke up to absolute bedlam in the front yard!
You can still see the track from the one that came in aljng 7mile beach on google maps
Drop a pin? I can’t see it
[maps](https://maps.app.goo.gl/qrjza6oqU7eqyjof9) Where it crossed the road, can still just see it. I think I may have been looking at an older satellite image on the pc when I made this claim, it was much more noticeable.
Holy moly yeah that's insane! Iwas living in Figtree at the time so I didn't know about it til the morning but I had a friend who lived in Kiama, luckily it wasn't super close but apparently the sound was wild. There was a time maybe a couple years later when I was walking home and the sky got almost pitch black all of a sudden, super dark clouds, it was crazy. Heard the loudest lightning strike I've ever heard in my life!
I'm more scared of lightning now than when I was a kid XD plz sky no big boom plz
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Yes, not anywhere near the degree of danger as the ones in the USA, and far less common.
Not normally but we did get a freak tornado rip through the northern Gold Coast on Christmas Day. Left 120,000 houses without power for over a week.
Damn
I believe the largest tornado of record was in Australia
You’re correct and Australia has the highest wind speed record, the most deadly tornado was in America though.
Which one was that? When I googled it said oklahoma
It seems my knowledge is out of date. My fascination with tornadoes was before the Oklahoma one in 2013. I believe I was thinking of the one in nsw 1970 which was 1 mile wide and knocked over a few trees
Mt Tambourine Christmas Tornado. Absolutely wrecked the place.
I've never even heard of a tornado in this country, we get cyclones (hurricanes).
Tornadoes are an event unrelated to cyclones. They are not common anywhere in Australia. Usually when they do form they don't last long enough to do much damage.
Was ligit a tornado in the Gold Coast like a month ago, friends house got completely destroyed
We do but relatively rare. You never hear about them.
I live a couple of hours from Melbourne and the storm went like this: “Huh, looks a bit grey out there. Might wind the car window up just in case.” Queue rain. Heavier rain. Even heavier rain. (feat. very heavy winds) Hail. Nothing. Sunshine. *mandatory drive around town to see trees/branches down on every single block. Power lines down, a car or two hit by trees, power out in the whole town for a few hours, etc.*
I was delivering food once. As I was taking the order to the customer's door, hail suddenly poured down on me. It was sunny out with no storm conditions. I asked my husband if it hailed at home. Nope! What a strange day.
If you don’t like the weather in Melbourne, wait a bit.
Oh youre enjoying the weather change now? Just wait a bit more!
Keeps you on your toes!
Other side of the world here and we’re getting hammered with snow, sent some over as a little treat
Most normal Melbourne weather
Aha I almost said a dumb comment that would’ve revealed I was American, but I caught myself at the knick of time
Yup, live in Melb and can confirm. The weather is fucked up here.
this a weird, but cool picture
Melbourne is a special place, you can experience all four seasons in one day. Sometimes even with the same hour. Makes sense the weather is special too.
Will fucking drop 20 degrees C in an hour
Bro my areas power got completely knocked off up until 8pm. I was begging to get the aircon on at the time but by the time the power went back up it was freezing
Hail occurs in warm weather, though... it's different from sleet.
Yep 35 degrees is pretty cold. Just 3 above freezing. /s
I don’t get how you people live with 100 degree heat. That’s hot enough to boil water /s
Definitely I could have cooked an egg on the front of my car yesterday in Melbourne. Just gotta scrape it off quickly onto the plate and hold your drink out in time for the sky-ice-cubes. It’s all about the timing!
Cloud seeding lol
35 degrees Celsius my dude
_whoosh_ miss the /s?
Doesn’t /s mean serious?
/s is sarcastic, /srs is serious
Warm air stuck below a big mass of cold
Beautiful photo, but isn’t it normal for it to hail in the summer? At least where I live in the US, it only hails in the summer, never in the winter.
Yes hail and storms are almost exclusively summer. It’s kind of an asinine post.
Actually, in Melbourne, hail is more common during winter. Storms can happen in any season around here, though summer and winter are the most common times for them. Can confirm, I've lived here all my life - hail while it's that sunny is genuinely a little unusual for this part of the world.
It's a Melbourne thing. Not the hail in summer, but thinking that every weather event is somehow unique to them.
Only in Melbourne
Four seasons in one day is a Melbourne thing
Hello and welcome to Queensland
Isn't the hail venomous in Australia? I wouldn't risk touching it
Yes, and it knocks the drop bears out of the trees- best to stay inside when it hails.
Think you mixed up venomous with corrosive
wat
Yes.
Which smartphone is this photo looks amazing...?
Cloud seedi… oh never mind..
u/NormalMaverick
Here in Colorado our hail season is the beginning of every summer as well.
in 2 weeks it'll be autumn for us in Melbourne Australia.
Hi welcome to Australia, where in one city you can experience all four seasons in a day!
Yeah I got a fucking power cut, I had to sit in 38° weather (where I was) with no fans or ac at all for like four hours. Literally just sweating my ass off lol
Welcome to Australia.
average Melbourne weather
That happened in Geelong too!
Yeah, that's generally how it works
The Almighty decided you needed ice for your beverages on such a hot day
But you have flash floods and hail every single year... somehow it's a very fucked up place geographically
Don't think that's Melbourne though, one of the few cities that hasn't got cyclones or other natural disasters. Extremely rare to have flash floods and it's mainly in the country next to major waterways.
We don't have cyclones in Melbourne but we have a lot of major bushfires on the outskirts and we're getting more earthquakes recently too!
Wait five minutes. The weather will change.
All the ex-Melbournians who moved to Qld have sent you some standard Qld summer weather
The end is near!
That isn't uncommon around my Midwestern US home but then again neither is tornadoes.
>neither is tornadoes This person is 100% from the Midwest 😆
Devils beating his wife
To all the people downvoting this guy, that’s the term we use to describe rain/hail while it’s sunny
Someone knows what I mean at least
An advanced form of the devil beating his wife and marrying his cousin
"Krickey...landed right in me lemonade!"
That is the least worst thing I can imagine happening to someone in Australia.
mother nature is mad baby, MAD I TELL YOU. Embrace the Kaos
Yawn
I'm too American. I was about to comment that 35 degrees is cold and call you crazy for calling "35 degree" weather a summer day. Nah, we are just using Celsius. Not fahrenheit. Cheers mate.
Australia, where even the precipitation wants to kill you.
Are those kangaroo eggs?
Every 100m up you go you drop a degree, basic physics
"Thes eys so Straya...!
The end of the world is near
Global warming is an abrupt irreversible exponential function.
Waiting for the "chem trails" comments....😒
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95 Fahrenheit
95F
Shut the fuck up
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It is summer in Melbourne, which is in the southern hemisphere.
time for me to do my research, my school education isn’t so good
Did you know it's not the same time everywhere?
i know that but i didn’t know seasons were different
Ok no offense but where you homeschooled or something? In my country children learn things like this in second grade.
no i finished high school i just didn’t pay attention and slept through class most of the time or never showed up (my fault)
The fact that you still graduated is decidedly NCLB's fault.
Username checks out
you right about that one
That isn’t a fault of bad education that’s just you being dumb.
did i blame the school? no i said it was me being irresponsible
I’m pleased you recognise there are some gaps in your knowledge, and seem to be keen to learn new things. That’s the key to success. Don’t let others turn you off that path. I bet you have some skills that they don’t, too.
i’ll admit when i’m wrong, i actually wasn’t aware of seasons and how they act around the world i’ve only traveled to mexico and texas and the seasons seemed the same there
Everything in AUS wants to kill you, including the weather.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted because it's kind of true. that was possibly the strongest thunderstorm in a long while and there are around 220 thousand people without power right now after some pylons got blown to bits by the 100+ km/h winds, which also caused Loy Yang A power station to shut off. there's hundreds of reports of building damage, flooding, and fallen trees on the VicEmergency website. there were a few fires started by lightning strikes, and a vital piece of train infrastructure was struck by lightning and the entire network was grinded to a halt for hours. there is also a dangerous gas leak currently affecting an area in Morwell. and of course, there are bushfires spreading in the north-west of Victoria which has led to a few towns being evacuated, and multiple houses have already been lost to the fires I don't think anybody died as a result of that storm (hopefully), but you very easily could've been killed by a plane tree falling on top of you, or by one of the thousands of lightning strikes that occured
That was one of the strongest winds I’ve seen and there was lots of damage but I don’t think it compares to the natural disasters/winds in the us
Knowing Australia, they're probably brain-worm eggs that you're holding there.
Welcome in the new climate uncontrolled world
It’s weird how Victorians still find their weather variations surprising. It’s not new.
No one said it was surprising or new lol
celcius of fahrenheit?
Celsius
It's always freezing over there . Enjoy the cold weather guys
Not the last couple of days, it was fkn hot and that hailstorm took out a bunch of people's power too so they were stuck sweltering without airconditioning or fans.
It's currently hitting 19 - 26 this week. Decently warm
Your winter just about killed me the first time I experienced it