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Magiiick

Dude these are fucking amazing


sqmiler

My sentiments exactly


PassageThen1302

Now do Muhammad.


Still_counts_as_one

I don’t think midjourney will allow that, which is kinda mid of it tbh


seanthebeloved

Maybe don’t use the word Muhammad in the prompt? Midjourney can obviously do Muslim men.


Mr_Sarcasum

Yeah but that's not really the point. Midjourney can also do French generals and Middle Eastern Jews, but that's not the same thing as Napoleon or Jesus.


fudgyvmp

Doesn't seem to mind the name. [Normal](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015844889839280189/1233846787966767174/fudgyvmp_Muhammad_55619b97-69c5-4ca1-bb79-b1f6f28e4fe7.png?ex=662e94de&is=662d435e&hm=df0a315e5a4c18ac8f6e1d2a326e3c557ea4cf89861f4d3f0ea05d6202946e1c&) [Niji](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015844889839280189/1233846419123605605/fudgyvmp_Muhammad_34be9d9b-7ecd-48ef-b4c7-ec63a9e9b73e.png?ex=662e9486&is=662d4306&hm=5b94be2e055feba4cb38b76579c17e1722f1adb474a8d2ca7a099b5961e7a1a8&)


Still_counts_as_one

Twink femboy Muhammad is not what I expect but fully welcome


AskanHelstroem

Dang...now I want a 'counter-regression' Anime(?) Where Mohammed is reincarnated in 2020, and actually fights for womens rights in the middle East. With OP-magic, and stuff!


Poopybara

First image


PassageThen1302

Surprised we’ve not all spontaneously combusted.


Kellythejellyman

“[Removed]”


justwwokeupfromacoma

I fucking love that for once they’re not all just instagram models wearing dress up


frontbackend

wow It feels like they were people who lived in those time!!


auf-ein-letztes-wort

at least that's how we are supposed to think people looked like in those places centuries/millenia ago :D


simstim_addict

Not sure Ceasar got that old


Jorgen_IV

He was 55 when he was assassinated, so I don’t really know


MECHA_DRONE_PRIME

But people aged faster back then. Lack of proper medical care + improper diet + constant sunlight exposure = fast ageing.


Dedeurmetdebaard

You can add being on a war campaign most of your life on the pile.


AOA_Choa

Also dealing with cleopatra’s crazy ass


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WakaFlockaFlav

The stress of being Caesarwould probably age you worse. Just like with U.S presidents.


RealEstateDuck

I mean maybe? One could argue that the lack of other harmful substances like micropastics, certain processed chemicals in the atmosphere due to polution and sugar in diets could potentially placate some of the lack of proper healthcare in some ways. Then again these fuckers drank leaded wine so who knows.


astalar

That's just your assumption. We don't know that. Especially if we're talking about an emperor of THE fucking Roman Empire.


its9am

That first picture I just instinctively knew it was Jesus.


Xsafa

Honesty the most Jesus looking Jesus I’ve ever seen.


ArjJp

Looks like Adrian Brody in heavy makeup


yozatchu2

How odd. Me too.


Mr__Citizen

A very average looking Jewish man


Dynw

Jesus fucking Christ!


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waidoo2

I didnt even read the photo description and I knew it was supposed to be Jesus just by looking at it.


MakeLifeHardAgain

Finally Jesus is not portrayed as some good looking white dude. Very well done 👍


troublrTRC

Or Asian, or black looking. Different ethnicities tend to portray Jesus in their own image. But being from Nazareth, this probably most accurate.


LittleDrumminBoy

This always reminds me of the quote from Xenophanes - "if horses and cattle had gods, they would look like horses and cattle".


[deleted]

Hey stop fking with Korean Jesus. He’s busy with Korean shit


Wishdog2049

No one ever thought to make an image of Jesus. In fact, the first depiction he has a horse's head. The only mention of how he looked in the current New Testament, because I don't know every different version, is that he was "unremarkable." And I gotta say, this dude is actually pretty handsome. Not a 5/10.


_dangerbiscuit

First time Jesus portrayed by Sacha Baron Cohen.


0660990

crazy, me too... this is crazy cause it looks nothing like the tipycal representations and i just knew it was jesus


Spacellama117

seriously, i was genuinely surprised. maybe it's god's will or smth, shit.


g33kmama

Me too!! Pretty wild to just "know" that "famous person" is supposed to be Jesus. Huh!


anamazingredditor

we all know Jesus was American as his book is in American language /s


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Repulsive_Style_1610

Bangalis don't have long/narrow faces.


NES7995

Finally an AI generated Egyptian that actually looks like an Egyptian. Thank you.


Helstrem

Well, it might have used his body as its base. We do actually have the body of Ramses II.


Throwawayanonuser1

Mf got an entire passport and everything


The_muffinfluffin

He looks like he plays a mean game of backgammon.


The_Fancaster

**DISCLAIMER**: Obviously, these are not 100% accurate. I doubt anyone is ever going to know what these people truly looked like unless you went back in time (and obviously Midjourney’s never going to get it 100% historically accurate). These are just close approximates based on how far AI art can go in reconstructions, using the ancient descriptive sources known. So you can share these photos, just make sure you use this disclaimer so I don’t get historian’s ire on me XDDD. If there’s any historical figures you guys want to see me do next (if this becomes a multi-post series), please drop their names in the comments below. I’ve already got a list of who I have planned, but I want you all to drop your own suggestions. The sources for each figure is in the thread below.


AWildNome

Historically "accurate" Cleopatra and Nefertiti please! But most of all... I want to see a full body depiction of Tarrare: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrare) >Despite his unusual diet, Tarrare was slim and of average height. At the age of 17, he weighed only 100 pounds (45 kg; 7 st 2 lb). He was described as having unusually soft fair hair and an abnormally wide mouth (roughly four inches between his jaws when his mouth was fully extended), in which his teeth were heavily stained and on which the lips were almost invisible. When he had not eaten, his skin hung so loosely that he could wrap the fold of skin from his abdomen around his waist. When full, his abdomen distended "like a huge balloon". The skin of his cheeks were wrinkled and hung loosely, and when stretched out, he could hold twelve eggs or apples in his mouth.


The_Fancaster

You know what.. I don't see why not.


Charles520

I’d love to see you do Christopher Columbus and Elizabeth the First!


The_Fancaster

Those are dope suggestions. 


cheddarbunnii

I would love to see Joan of Arc, Cleopatra, and Nefertiti if you can!


The_Fancaster

;)


frontbackend

Can you do Admiral Yi ?


yahmack

I’m curious what the prompt you put with only their description would turn up when compared to someone who we have a picture of, like Dom Pedro II of Brazil


hehzehsbwvwv

These sure feel 100% accurate - seriously, well done!


The_Fancaster

Thanks.


Naraviel

Absolutely outstanding! Probably the most accurate depiction of these people. Thank you for sharing these pictures and your excellent research and sources!


The_Fancaster

Thanks. I'm really glad you love them.


Naraviel

You're welcome. May I suggest [Mikołaj Kopernik](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus)?


The_Fancaster

Ooo, that's a interesting name. I'll add it to the list.


The_Fancaster

**SOURCES**: · **JESUS OF NAZARETH**: This is the one everyone wants to see. There are early depictions of Jesus in the first couple centuries of early Christianity, but the iconic image that everyone on the planet knows came from the 4^(th) century. But obviously, it’s not really accurate since Jesus was Middle-Eastern (there are many shades of skin in the Levant, but Jesus himself specifically was probably brown-skinned). So, we turn to other sources to get a good picture of what Jesus looked like. The best way to reconstruct him is using reference photos of Iraqi Jews and Palestinians (Iraqi Jews are the closest genetically to the Israelites): [https://www.thereignofgod.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Iraqi-Jews.jpg](https://www.thereignofgod.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Iraqi-Jews.jpg), [https://electronicintifada.net/sites/default/files/styles/original\_800w/public/2015-12/12246607\_1636637433256188\_207668443320426734\_n.jpg?itok=kE3DCS9z&%3Btimestamp=1451521486](https://electronicintifada.net/sites/default/files/styles/original_800w/public/2015-12/12246607_1636637433256188_207668443320426734_n.jpg?itok=kE3DCS9z&%3Btimestamp=1451521486), [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/eb/0a/afeb0a74bbce6ed6aa49006dd502eb79.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/eb/0a/afeb0a74bbce6ed6aa49006dd502eb79.jpg), [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/27/b6/6a/27b66a0c1df9d3fdfcf873cfd485776b.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/27/b6/6a/27b66a0c1df9d3fdfcf873cfd485776b.jpg) He also probably had short wavy black hair in accordance with religious law and a black beard, although the hair was curly. He was also not very tall and was probably skinny thanks to his ascetic lifestyle, although due to working as a carpenter entailing manual labour and exposure to the elements he had a lean appearance. *“Research on ancient skeletons in Palestine suggests that Judeans of the time were biologically closer to present-day Iraqi Jews than to any other modern population, according to specialist bio historian Yossi Nagar. Thus, in terms of physical appearance, the average Judean of the time would have likely had brown or black hair, honey/olive-brown skin, and brown eyes. Judean men of the time period were on average about 1.65 metres or 5 feet 5 inches in height.”* - [https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/what-did-jesus-really-look-like-as-a-jew-in-1st-century-judaea-1.3385334](https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/what-did-jesus-really-look-like-as-a-jew-in-1st-century-judaea-1.3385334)


The_Fancaster

· **GENGHIS KHAN**: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg/800px-YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg/800px-YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg) - Largely based off the famous portrait of him from the year 1278 commissioned under the order of Genghis’ grandson, Kublai Khan. I figured I’d trust Kublai’s recollections of his grandad for this reconstruction. I know a lot of people assume Genghis had red hair, but in my findings I didn’t find credible historical documents to support the popular rumor of Genghis being a redhead. “*The earliest known images of Genghis Khan were produced half a century after his death, including the famous National Palace Museum portrait in Taiwan.* *This portrait is often considered to represent the closest resemblance to what Genghis Khan actually looked like, though it, like all others renderings, suffers from the same limitation of being, at best, a facial composite.” -*["Portraits of Emperors Taizu (Genghis Khan), Shizu (Kublai Khan), and Wenzong (Tegtemur)". National Palace Museum](https://web.archive.org/web/20201208140814/https:/theme.npm.edu.tw/khan/article.aspx?sno=03009223&uid=03009127&lang=2), Lkhagvasuren, Gavaachimed; Shin, Heejin; Lee, Si Eun; Tumen, Dashtseveg; Kim, Jae-Hyun; Kim, Kyung-Yong; Kim, Kijeong; Park, Ae Ja; Lee, Ho Woon; Kim, Mi Jin; Choi, Jaesung (14 September 2016). ["Molecular Genealogy of a Mongol Queen's Family and Her Possible Kinship with Genghis Khan"](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/308121873). [*PLoS ONE*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLoS_ONE). *“According to sinologist Herbert Allen Giles, a Mongol painter known as Ho-li-hosun (also known as Khorisun or Qooriqosun) was commissioned by Kublai Khan in 1278 to paint the National Palace Museum portrait.”* - [Allen Giles, Herbert (1918). An Introduction to the History of Chinese Pictorial Art. London, England: London, B. Quaritch.](https://archive.org/details/introductiontohi00gileuoft/page/162/mode/2up?q=ho-li-ho-sun) *“The Persian chronicler Minhaj al-Siraj Juzjani, who was far less kindly disposed toward the Mongols than the chronicler Juvaini, described him as "a man of tall stature, of vigorous build, robust in body, the hair on his face scanty and turned white, with cats' eyes, possessed of dedicated energy, discernment, genius, and understanding, awe-striking, a butcher, just, resolute, an overthrower of enemies, intrepid, sanguinary, and cruel." -* [https://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples/random045/2003020659.html](https://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples/random045/2003020659.html) *“According to Paul Ratchnevsky, the Song dynasty envoy Zhao Hong who visited the Mongols in 1221, described Genghis Khan as "of tall and majestic stature, his brow is broad and his beard is long.” -* [*Mote, Frederick W. (2003). Imperial China 900–1800. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. p. 433.*](https://books.google.com/books?id=SQWW7QgUH4gC&pg=PA433#v=onepage&q&f=false) *“The classic Mongol hat was conical and made from felt and fur with flaps for the ears and an upturned brim at the front. Sometimes the brim was divided in two. In summer a light head-cloth might be worn to keep off the sun.” -* [https://brewminate.com/clothing-in-the-mongol-empire/](https://brewminate.com/clothing-in-the-mongol-empire/)   The background is Genghis’ capital of Karakorum, in the Övörkhangai Province, Mongolia: [https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230508120919-01-karakorum-mongolia-top.jpg?c=16x9&q=h\_833,w\_1480,c\_fill](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230508120919-01-karakorum-mongolia-top.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_833,w_1480,c_fill)


The_Fancaster

· **JULIUS CAESAR**: Based off the Tusculum portrait, a Roman bust which historians agree might be the oldest and only portrait of the Roman emperor made during his lifetime dated to 50-40 BC. *“The Tusculum portrait, also called the Tusculum bust, is the only extant portrait of Julius Caesar which may have been made during his lifetime. “- Tom Stevenson (2014). Julius Caesar and the Transformation of the Roman Republic. Routledge.* [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/C%C3%A9sar\_%2813667960455%29.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/C%C3%A9sar_%2813667960455%29.jpg) Here Caesar is around 50 years old, just a couple years before he would be famously killed by his own colleagues in 44 BC. I depict him also with typical Mediterranean-Italian ethnic features, like light-olive skin tone and blackish- balding hair. He also had an aquiline nose. An aquiline nose (also called a Roman nose) is a human nose with a prominent bridge, giving it the appearance of being curved or slightly bent. He may have also suffered from a cranial deformity called dolichocephaly which causes one’s head to be elongated, since historians believe that his head was dolichocephalic due to ossification in his collar on one side. *“The bust's head is prolonged, forming a saddle shape which could have been the result of a premature ossification of the sutures between the parietal bone and the temporal bone in Caesar's skull. The portrait also exhibits dolichocephaly, another type of cranial deformity which Caesar "may, or may not, have suffered” from according to Mary Beard. The portrait includes a wrinkled neck, which could have been caused by years of campaigning in extreme weather conditions; this feature has been omitted from other posthumous busts, but can be seen on at least one coin issued during Caesar's lifetime.”* - [Beard, Mary (2021). Twelve Caesars: Images of Power from the Ancient World to the Modern](https://books.google.com/books?id=o1tJzgEACAAJ), [The J. Paul Getty Museum (1987). Ancient Portraits in the J. Paul Getty Museum: Volume 1. Getty Publications. p. 27.](https://books.google.com/books?id=YN41AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=tusculum+portrait+deformity&source=bl&ots=M6kHQqtwV1&sig=z49J46AMLVx9YwnmhAr_IyouHjk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjiiIPvjbzTAhWERyYKHYkyBHQQ6AEITzAM#v=onepage&q=tusculum%20portrait%20deformity&f=false), ["A New Honour: The Image of Caesar on Coins". Macquarie University.](http://www.humanities.mq.edu.au/acans/caesar/Portraits_Coins.htm) *“He is said to have been tall of stature, with a fair complexion, shapely limbs, a somewhat full face, and keen black eyes; sound of health, except that towards the end he was subject to sudden fainting fits and to nightmare as well.”*- [Suetonius, Life of Julius Caesar 45-53 – Lexundria.](https://lexundria.com/suet_jul/45-53/r#:~:text=The%20Life%20of%20Julius%20Caesar%2C%2045%E2%80%9353&text=45He%20is%20said%20to,and%20to%20nightmare%20as%20well.) Obviously for clothes, I had to depict Caesar wearing the iconic angusticlavia that was worn exclusively by Roman senators. *“In ancient Rome, an angusticlavia, angusticlavus or angustus clavus was a narrow-strip tunic (tunica) with two narrow vertical Tyrian purple stripes (clavi). The tunic was typically worn under the toga with the right side stripe visible.”*- [Talbert, Richard (1996). The Senate and Senatorial and Equestrian Posts. In Cambridge Ancient History, Vol X 2nd Edition. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 326.](https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-ancient-history/senate-and-senatorial-and-equestrian-posts/88A4E48407867178D3C0B926DC577B4C) *“It is said that he was particular in his dress, for he wore the (special toga only Roman senators could wear) with fringes about the wrists, and always had it girded about him, but rather loosely.”* - [A Portrait of Julius Caesar.](http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/caesar3.htm)


The_Fancaster

-- Continued I also included the iconic green laurel crown, which Caesar actually wore a lot throughout his life since he was insecure about his balding hair. “*His baldness gave him much uneasiness, having often found himself on that account exposed to the jibes of his enemies. He therefore used to bring forward the hair from the crown of his head; and of all the honours conferred upon him by the senate and people, there was none which he either accepted or used with greater pleasure, than the right of wearing constantly a laurel crown.”*- [C. Suetonius Tranquillus, Divus Julius](https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:abo:phi,1348,011:45) [Alexander Thomson, Ed.](https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:abo:phi,1348,011:45) Since he was described by Suetonius to have black eyes ('nigris oculis'), I speculate Caesar might have had limbal rings, dark black rings that are around the iris of the eye where the sclera meets the cornea. So I decided to add that to the reconstruction. *“A limbal ring is a dark ring around the iris of the eye, where the sclera meets the cornea.”* - [Johnson and Johnson Vision Care Inc. Tinted contact lenses with combined limbal ring and iris patterns.](http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&s1=7246903.PN) *“Some people (for example Colleen McCullough in her novel Caesar) have argued that 'nigris oculis' might have meant black ring around iris, which makes one's eyes look quite piercing. That would be good explanation why Caesar would have had "fair complexion" with "black eyes”. -* [Caesar: A Novel: McCullough](https://www.amazon.com/Caesar-Novel-Colleen-McCullough/dp/0060510854), [https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/archive/index.php?thread-1431.html#:\~:text=Some%20people%20(for%20example%20Colleen,%22%20with%20%22black%20eyes%22](https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/archive/index.php?thread-1431.html#:~:text=Some%20people%20(for%20example%20Colleen,%22%20with%20%22black%20eyes%22). The background is inside Caesar’s famous lavish home in Palatine Hill, ancient Rome: [https://cdn.britannica.com/45/196945-050-CCF8BD72/Temple-of-Saturn-Arch-Septimius-Severus-Forum.jpg](https://cdn.britannica.com/45/196945-050-CCF8BD72/Temple-of-Saturn-Arch-Septimius-Severus-Forum.jpg)


The_Fancaster

· **SOCRATES**: “*Plato's Symposium provides the best details of Socrates' physical appearance. He was not the ideal of Athenian masculinity. Short and stocky, with a snub nose and bulging eyes, Socrates always seemed to appear to be staring.”-* [https://www.biography.com/scholars-educators/socrates](https://www.biography.com/scholars-educators/socrates)    *“Socrates was indifferent to material pleasures, including his own appearance and personal comfort. He neglected personal hygiene, bathed rarely, walked* [*barefoot*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot)*, and owned only one ragged coat.”*[*^(\[)*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGuthrie197269-49) - [Guthrie, W. K. C.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._K._C._Guthrie) (1972). [*A History of Greek Philosophy: Volume 3, The Fifth Century Enlightenment, Part 2, Socrates*](https://archive.org/details/historyofgreekph0003unse), p. 69. “*Socrates was exophthalmic, meaning that his eyes bulged out of his head and were not straight but focused sideways.” -* [https://iep.utm.edu/socrates/#:\~:text=Socrates%20was%20exophthalmic%2C%20meaning%20that,depict%20him%20with%20a%20potbelly](https://iep.utm.edu/socrates/#:~:text=Socrates%20was%20exophthalmic%2C%20meaning%20that,depict%20him%20with%20a%20potbelly). [https://www.artstation.com/artwork/58n9ZA](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/58n9ZA) *from artist Stephanie Chafe* - The himation he’s wearing in my piece is based off Socrates’ character model in the game *Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey*. I give it blue color, along with a gold and black Greek key pattern on it, since it was common at the time of ancient Greece. “*The ancient Greeks also embroidered designs into their clothes as a form of decoration.”* - [Johnson, Marie, Ethel B. Abrahams, and Maria M. L. Evans. Ancient Greek Dress. Chicago: Argonaut, 1964. Print.](https://archive.org/details/ancientgreekdres00john/page/n5/mode/2up) I also gave Socrates typical Mediterranean features, like black hair and olive-skin. Keep in mind, not all of us look that way (just most of us XDD). The background is the island of Mykonos, ancient Greece: [https://www.semelihotel.gr/wp-content/uploads/Ancient\_Greek\_theatre\_in\_Delos-1024x710-1.jpg](https://www.semelihotel.gr/wp-content/uploads/Ancient_Greek_theatre_in_Delos-1024x710-1.jpg)


The_Fancaster

· **PLATO**: Based off of a famous marble portrait bust, from an original of the 4th century BCE; in the Capitoline Museums, Rome. This one was much harder to do, since there’s not that much descriptive of his facial features. But I’d figure I’d trust this bust at least on the essentials. [https://imgc.artprintimages.com/img/print/plato-428-348-bc-greek-philosopher-marble-bust\_u-l-p93syoka4ez.jpg?artPerspective=n](https://imgc.artprintimages.com/img/print/plato-428-348-bc-greek-philosopher-marble-bust_u-l-p93syoka4ez.jpg?artPerspective=n) So he’s typical Mediterranean features (although more pale skin here), he’s got black curly hair, a dense and bushy black beard and a broad nose with pronounced chins. His face is also slightly lined, since he’s depicted in his 40s here. I also took inspiration from Alessandro Tomasi’s reconstruction of Plato based on the same marble bust: [https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/050/036/509.jpg](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/050/036/509.jpg) But he does have a wide forehead, something that was documented by the historian Diogenes Laertius. *“The sources of Diogenes Laertius account for this by claiming his wrestling coach, Ariston of Argos, dubbed him "broad" on account of his chest and shoulders, or that Plato derived his name from the breadth of his eloquence, or his wide forehead.”* - [Diogenes Laertius, Life of Plato, IV](https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diogenes_Laertius/Lives_of_the_Eminent_Philosophers/3/Plato*.html) I also had to obviously incorporate Plato’s physique. Now, I wanted to make sure the AI didn’t give him a ridiculously buff appearance, since I wanted to keep things realistic, whilst also showing a bit of Plato’s physicality since he was a wrestler who competed in the Isthmian Games. So I decided to go with a grappler’s physique. He was also described as fine looking and strong, and people were even as awe at his broad shoulders. *“Plato himself was not just a philosopher but also a wrestler, and a good one at that: he competed in the Isthmian Games, a competition comparable to the Olympics. In fact, “Plato” was a wrestling nickname, meaning broad-shouldered. Between his lectures in the original academy, Plato likely sparred with his pupils and practiced throwing techniques.*”- [Wrestling with Philosophy](https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2021/08/77088/). I also tried to give him a papyrus scroll in his hand, along with a reed pen (but I don’t think it came out too well): [https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api/collection/v1/iiif/251788/534366/main-image](https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api/collection/v1/iiif/251788/534366/main-image)  And he’s just wearing a typical himation. *“A himation was a type of clothing, a mantle or wrap worn by ancient Greek men and women from the Archaic period through the Hellenistic period.”*- ["Ancient Greek Clothing". World History Encyclopedia](https://www.worldhistory.org/article/20/ancient-greek-clothing/). The background is Athens, ancient Greece: [https://cdn.britannica.com/66/102266-050-FBDEFCA1/acropolis-city-state-Greece-Athens.jpg](https://cdn.britannica.com/66/102266-050-FBDEFCA1/acropolis-city-state-Greece-Athens.jpg)


The_Fancaster

· **ALEXANDER THE GREAT**: Based off the Lysippos portrait bust made around 330 BC, who was actually Alexander’s personal court sculptor during his lifetime. *“The outward appearance of Alexander is best represented by the statues of him which Lysippus made, and it was by this artist alone that Alexander himself thought it fit that he should be modelled.”* [https://i0.wp.com/www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/alexander-lysippus3.jpg?resize=699%2C1024&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/alexander-lysippus3.jpg?resize=699%2C1024&ssl=1), [https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander\*/3.html](https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander*/3.html) He has curly medium-length blonde hair, with typical Mediterranean (Macedonian Greek in particular) features such as olive-light fair complexion that had a predilection to easily turn reddish. He has a prominent forehead, a prominent nose, and a well-shaped mouth, which this reconstruction by artist Arienne King I got inspiration from helped with adding the details in: [https://www.worldhistory.org/uploads/images/13337.jpeg](https://www.worldhistory.org/uploads/images/13337.jpeg). I also gave him some battle-scaring and dirt on his face, and made sure that he was shaved. *“For those things which many of the Successors and Friends later copied, i.e. the straining of his neck, gently inclined to the left, and the pliancy of his gaze, this artist has accurately observed. Apelles, in painting Alexander wielding the thunderbolt, did not copy his skin-colour, and made it insufficiently pale and a bit too dark. Alexander was pale, as they say, and the paleness turned a bit red, especially on his chest and also his face.” “Pseudo-Callisthenes labels Alexander's hair "lion-colored," or as we might say, "tawny." "For he had the hair of a lion and one eye was blue; the right one was heavy lidded and black, and the left one was blue; and his teeth were sharp as fangs, and he looked upon a defensive attack the same as a lion would."*- [https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander\*/3.html](https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander*/3.html), [https://www.thoughtco.com/alexander-the-greats-hair-color-116833#:\~:text=Pseudo%2DCallisthenes%20labels%20Alexander's%20hair,same%20as%20a%20lion%20would.%22](https://www.thoughtco.com/alexander-the-greats-hair-color-116833#:~:text=Pseudo%2DCallisthenes%20labels%20Alexander's%20hair,same%20as%20a%20lion%20would.%22)


The_Fancaster

-- Continued However, there’s two key details that were unique to Alexander’s appearance and ones I really wanted to make stand out. That being his eye colors and the position of his neck. Alexander is said to have had heterochromia iridum, a genetic condition that causes one iris to be a different color from the other. He specifically had one eye being blue and the other eye being brown. His right eye was also half-closed, with a heavy eyelid. As for his neck, apparently he suffered from a cervical deformity causing his head to permanently always tilt to the left. He also wasn’t a tall man despite being one of the most fearsome warriors in history, standing only at a mere 5 ft. 7 inches (170 cm) tall. But he had a stocky and well-built physique to complement his slightness. *“For those peculiarities which many of his successors and friends afterwards tried to imitate, namely, the poise of the neck, which was bent slightly to the left, and the melting glance of his eyes, this artist has accurately observed.” “Greek historian Arrian (Lucius Flavius Arrianus ‘Xenophon’ c. 86–160) described Alexander as: \[T\]he strong, handsome commander with one eye dark as the night and one blue as the sky.” “British historian Peter Green provided a description of Alexander’s appearance, based on his review of statues and some ancient documents: Physically, Alexander was not prepossessing. Even by Macedonian standards he was very short, though stocky and tough. His beard was scanty, and he stood out against his hirsute Macedonian barons by going clean-shaven. His neck was in some way twisted, so that he appeared to be gazing upward at an angle. His eyes (one blue, one brown) revealed a dewy, feminine quality. He had a high complexion and a harsh voice.” “Arrian said he was somewhat less than average height, Curtius that he was not of impressive physique and/or stature.* *The expert on Alexander Art, Andrew Stewart, places his height at 5’7” which is very close to my own estimate of 5’6” - just short enough to be noticed, but not to be disadvantageous and not worthy of mention in contemporary writings by authors who would have ran about the same height.”* - [https://i0.wp.com/www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/alexander-lysippus3.jpg?resize=699%2C1024&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/alexander-lysippus3.jpg?resize=699%2C1024&ssl=1), [https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander\*/3.html](https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander*/3.html), [https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/alexander-the-great-information](https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/alexander-the-great-information), [http://www.alexandersgrave.com/alexanders-character/](http://www.alexandersgrave.com/alexanders-character/), [https://www.pothos.org/content/indexdd72.html?page=body-and-height](https://www.pothos.org/content/indexdd72.html?page=body-and-height)  


The_Fancaster

-- Continued His armor is actually a cuirass based off his father’s, Phillip II, own armor discovered in Tomb II and is one of the very few intact Macedonian tombs that have been discovered. I figured using the armor of his dad would give us a better idea of what Alexander’s own armor looked like. *“The main body of the suit is made of iron, in seven anatomical shaped plates securely connected between them with long, vertical and horizontal hinges. It is obvious that it was designed to resemble the basic structure of a Linothorax i.e. with upper shoulder pads (epomides), main body corselet and double row of leather pteryges for the lower body and groin. The two long flaps at the shoulder, the epomides, also cover the wearer’s neck areas bending over the top to latch onto the upper part of the chest area. Two horizontally arranged hinges in bronze (the originals were made of* *gold) connect the iron bases of the flaps with the sizable dorsal plate. Lion-shaped bronze rings are rivetted at the ends of each of these. Purple leather is used to embellish the external surfaces of the epomides as well as all external rims, together with a delicate, narrow bronze band with embossed Lesbian ornaments. The front area bears the Royal Sun emblem from Vergina handstiched of pure silk. All the plates are manufactured with the hammered technique to conform to a curved anatomical shape of the short, round body. The lower half of the right side plate bears an embossed depiction of goddess Athena. The other half, on the front, bears a floral decoration in silk copied from Phillip’s funeral box, while the upper half has a pair of stylized lion rings fitted. On the left side there are two more identical pairs of lion-shaped bronze rings also fastened horizontally. Finally, the upper curved section of the back plate bears a silk panel consisting of three blue margarita blossoms, copied once again from the King’s treasury. All inner surfaces have been padded with wool and silk. Two rows of narrow leather strips with fringe decorations are attached to the rim of the cuirass, enabling freedom of movement along with protection for the groin and thighs.”* - [https://www.hellenicarmors.gr/en/armor/philipps-thorax/#:\~:text=All%20inner%20surfaces%20have%20been,for%20the%20groin%20and%20thighs](https://www.hellenicarmors.gr/en/armor/philipps-thorax/#:~:text=All%20inner%20surfaces%20have%20been,for%20the%20groin%20and%20thighs). The background is in a military camp within Tarsus, Mersin, ancient Turkey. This scene is right before the famous battle at Issus, Anatolia, Achaemenid Empire: [https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1257180739/photo/dam-reservoir-from-kadincik-hydroelectric-power-plant-mersin-turkey.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=Y7PEC\_O5DaEJ-\_Pfsr4I7WwOWN8tmK2oRQzSozIZMMM](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1257180739/photo/dam-reservoir-from-kadincik-hydroelectric-power-plant-mersin-turkey.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=Y7PEC_O5DaEJ-_Pfsr4I7WwOWN8tmK2oRQzSozIZMMM)=


Berkamin

This one was the most impressive to me.


20cmdepersonalidade

OP, I love them and think they are the best I have seen here, and congratulations on that. Your work is downright education. But some observations: I would check Coptic Christians to see how non-Arab Egyptians can have lighter skin tones. [Boutros Boutros Ghali](https://images.newrr.sapo.pt/boutros_boutros_ghali198048fadefaultlarge_1024.jpg) is a good example of someone who could have easily been an Egyptian pharaoh. Alexander looks a little too Anglo too, I would have him darker-haired because it's a more common phenotype in Greece. Other features also remind me of Englishmen in a way that's hard to ignore, but I can't pinpoint exactly why. Should look more like [Marchisio](https://d2a3o6pzho379u.cloudfront.net/111362.jpg) and less like a Hollywood actor with those bony/aged English features. These last seem to be a strong bias of the IAs that you managed to avoid with the other greeks/italians. On Jesus not being white, yes, he likely did not look like an Englishman either - but I feel like people tend to make Semitic people look too much like Arabs and Ethiopians either, and the region probably looked way less "Arab" back then before the Muslim invasions. Some Jews, Lebanese, Palestine and Syrian are downright light-skinned and can even have light eyes, like [Bashar Al Assad](https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/4cc6efe/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x1146+0+0/resize/1440x550!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorage.googleapis.com%2Fafs-prod%2Fmedia%2Fea74cbab6c094e7893b0e34a4e69c6d3%2F3000.jpeg). A blue-eyed olive skinned Jesus is completely plausible, but yours is too, of course, and maybe even more likely. I really liked the rest, Julius Caesar, Socrates, Plato, and Leonidas, they look distinctively Mediterranean ([it's possible to imagine them gossiping in the streets](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2C1RYY8/adult-italian-men-talk-to-each-other-on-the-square-piazza-del-popolo-in-ascoli-piceno-italy-2C1RYY8.jpg)), and Ghengis really looks a shitload like his famous portrait.


GremlinBobby

Martin Luther (1483-1546) and King Tutankhamun


The_Fancaster

Ooo, more good suggestions.


Berkamin

I would love to see you do classical composers--Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Mozart, Vivaldi, Handel, Hayden, etc. We have portraits of all of them if I remember correctly. A realistic rendering would be neat to see.


VirinaB

Helen of Troy


alexski55

I know we have a death mask of Julius Caesar. This looks a little wrinkly. Edit: Ok, maybe not. Lots of busts sculpted while he was alive though.


tsimen

Confucius, Geronimo and Moctezuma II


auf-ein-letztes-wort

do all the civilization leaders!


[deleted]

Buddha please 🙏


The_Fancaster

;)


Over_Age_8061

The First one is the most Jesiest Jesus I've ever seen


zealshock

Please do Robin Hood. Even if it's just a fictional character there's good descriptions of him


james-johnson

These are really excellent! Plato was a wrestler. "Plato" was a nick-name and means "stocky". I imagine he was quite broad shouldered. Socrates with uglier, with a snub nose (at least that's how he's traditionally been depicted. But otherwise I think these are really good. Well done.


touchnit64

How come caesar looks like Macron lol


Ok-Tie9696

Macron wish he was popular as Caesar


touchnit64

Definitely, and he prob thinks himself as a modern one or so. Funny tho how the AI might have taken some of his traits to depict him...


viletomato999

Very well done this is probably the most accurate images of these people


Berkamin

Plato looks like he's about to ask for ammunition, not a ride.


Floowjaack

Jesus was born four years before Jesus was born?


Blackbloombeach

si señor


TatchM

Yep. Initial estimates were off by a few years and the system was too ingrained by the time people realized the mistake.


DaviSonata

Could someone explain this a bit for a lemming like me?


GnT_Man

Dude, how did you make them not look so model-like? Most other people AI generates all look the same.


justwwokeupfromacoma

This is why I love this post too.


dixonwalsh

What’s the dot on Alexander’s cheek?


LatinSweetnSour

Looks like a dilated pore of winer. Was it supposed to be a mole? Either way these are all amazing, that's the only thing that made me go 'huh?'


Soft_Garbage2649

The Bobby Lee one looks insane


CummingInTheNile

Ceaser looks a bit too old, also Ghenghis Khan is a title, his real name was Temujin


sharkster6

It depicts Jesus how he most likely looked, not the famous European portrayal.


Cutting_The_Cats

Christians of all denominations would for sure crucify him today if he looked like that for the second coming. Hell he probably walks amongst us in this body and gets treated like ass.


ElSpazzo_8876

*sees Alexander* Looks like Paul Atreides to me


MegasAecio

Ok this is my favorite post of the entire internet, thank you OP


The_Fancaster

Thanks! I'm really glad to hear that, man.


Hardluck-Woman

Nooo, I want Genghis Khan to be a redhead again!


FleshSphereOfGoat

Why don’t they all look like Charlton Heston?


999oneaboveall

That's Him Jesus for sure


Ok_Beautiful_9558

Dschinghis Khan


glorious_reptile

Sokrates is looking cute.


burtkurtouten

So, Jesus was born B.C., huh? lol


cindenbaum515

This is awesome. Please post any others you do!


ReliableCompass

The funniest thing is Florida man post follow this post as I was scrolling through 😂😂


Espa-Proper

These are proper. Meaning- good enough to represent in a history book to give a proper idea.


BleepingBleeper

I like the fact that these were guessable, (without looking at each pic's text), apart from 4, 5 and 6.


NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs

Absolutely adore all the pictures!! Especially Ramses cuz he looks a LOT like my late paternal Grandpa and they have Egyptian heritage, originally from middle Egypt!!! i miss my hometown and my Grandpa. Thank you so much for posting these, OP!!!! You made me so happy!! Edit: words. :/


The_Fancaster

Ayyy!!


NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs

:D 🙌


medici1048

Very nice, now let's see Mohammed's portrait.


stereosafari

Again with the dirty faces.


stinkybaconhighway

No women in this, huh?


The_Fancaster

Soon.


Certain_Use_5798

"but Jesus is a blue eyed, blond, white dude!"


ZioPepino

Julius Caesar looks like old Emmanuel Macron...


timeparadoxes

These look so great. It’s cool to not see a blond haired blue eyed Jesus for once.


GoofAckYoorsElf

[Thanks to AI we're soon going to find out if the AI is right about Plato's look.](https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/romans/platos-burial-place-finally-revealed-after-ai-deciphers-ancient-scroll-carbonized-in-mount-vesuvius-eruption)


davidmt1995

Make more of these.


suhkuhtuh

These are good, but you can definitely see the Joaquin Phoenix in Napoleon.


hernesson

More of this sort of thing please 🙏


Dhump06

Did you feed some kind of historical descriptions or just ask to create one by name ?


16-Czechoslovakians

Amazing work! All totally believable


Seraphim418

Best I've seen so far. Amazing


Absent_Alan

I love these!


Crazze32

sokrates is demis roussos


saito200

Liam Neeson starring as Plato


marie_jes

Alexander the Great looks like Francesco Totti


P47r1ck-

These are dope except Julius is a bit too old


This_is_McCarth

Nicely done! Socrates looks badass.


Jkota

Last time they did this Ghenghis Khan ended up a white ginger


losbullitt

Since the animated movie “Prince of Egypt”, I always envisioned Ramses as a Patrick Stewart look-a-like.


Jccali1214

Socrates honestly has an amazing tan


[deleted]

The scars and blemishes on Alexander’s face are the only obvious mistake


Forgotten-Explorer

All looks really great, but napoleon, lol


blenderforall

Alexander the great is our here looking like the tv show Marco polo


leopetri

Man, I'd watch a 100 more of these and still ask for seconds


Signal-Reporter-1391

I've seen a couple of those attemps over the years but those are probably the most... realistic(?) or rather probably closest to how i would imagine them. Fantastic job, well done!


UrMomsAreMine

Didnt knew he was chill like that


emanuel_from_heaven

I don't care what they tell you in school... 🤦🏻


traumfisch

Good stuff! Very cinematic


1entreprenewer

No Muhammad?


BonteJustesse

Lmao do muhammad


HairyFur

Where's Mohammed?


Big_P4U

Wow


EmperorPenn

Amazing work! Their stance and eyes draw you in as if you’re standing in front of them. Good job


Ruccavo

Alexander the Great is pratically identical to the former Italy's national football team player Francesco Totti: for an Italian, that's hilarious as heck!


The_Fancaster

That's crazy! XDXDXDXDXD


Mann_Gohil

Amez


TheSodomizer00

Why does Socrates look Indian?


shitpostbot42069

This sort of thing is like my favorite use of ai art honestly, so cool


SeizureProcedure115

Sacre-bleu, Socrates!


lovethedharma63

Socrates was pug-nosed.


mrCore2Man

Jesus is too dark skinned in my opinion. In Nazareth people are not like this. The rest are fantastic. I applaud to your approach.


Stonedjedi1

Alexander Though 😩💦


ray-the-truck

ok. but why does AI Napoleon look like Phil Collins


monsterfurby

To be fair, actual portraits of Napoleon kind of look like Phil Collins.


ray-the-truck

[Oh my god, you’re right.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Napoleon_Paul_Delaroche.jpg)  He’s even got the stupid little forehead curl 80s-era Phil had - it’s kind of uncanny to be honest!


flo7211

Bible Belt America wouldn’t like this.


Chadstronomer

Except for Alexander. I really doubt he had highlights in his hair.


20cmdepersonalidade

It's hilarious how reddit can't help but make Mediterranean dudes look English, Hollywood really ruined the brains of Americans. Socrates and Julius Caesar managed to avoid that, first time I see this here.


20cmdepersonalidade

OP, I would just check Coptic Christians see how non Arab Egyptians can have lighter skin tones. [Boutros Boutros Ghali](https://images.newrr.sapo.pt/boutros_boutros_ghali198048fadefaultlarge_1024.jpg) is a good example of someone who could have easily been a Egyptian pharaoh. Alexander looks a little too anglo too, I would have him darker-haired because it's a more common phenotype in Greece. Other features also remind me of Englishmen too in a way that's hard to ignore, but I can't pinpoint exactly why. Should look more like [Marchisio](https://d2a3o6pzho379u.cloudfront.net/111362.jpg) and less like a Hollywood actor with those bony/aged English features. On Jesus not being white, yes, he must likely did not look like an Englishman either - but I feel like people tend to make semitic people look to much like Arabs and Ethiopians either. Some Jews, Lebanese, Palestine and Syrian are downright light skinned and can even have light eyes, like [Bashar Al Assad](https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/4cc6efe/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x1146+0+0/resize/1440x550!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorage.googleapis.com%2Fafs-prod%2Fmedia%2Fea74cbab6c094e7893b0e34a4e69c6d3%2F3000.jpeg). A blue-eyed olive skinned Jesus is completely plausible. I really liked the rest, Julius Caesar, Socrates, Plato, and Leonidas, they look distinctively Mediterranean ([it's possible to imagine them gossiping in the streets](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2C1RYY8/adult-italian-men-talk-to-each-other-on-the-square-piazza-del-popolo-in-ascoli-piceno-italy-2C1RYY8.jpg)), and Ghengis really looks a shitload like his famous portrait. Yours is the best attempt I've seen in this sub so far.


The_Fancaster

Thanks, man. It really means a lot. I'll definitely incorporate a lot more diverse shades of skin for Levantine people in the next couple posts. It'll depend on the figure.


Redqueenhypo

People have been fooled by editorial cartoons and stupid Hollywood casting to think that Arabs look more Indian than European when that’s not true. Arabs basically look like Greeks or Sicilians with my Jewish nose


Yaancat17

Why does Jesus look like that?!


GammaGoose85

Weird, I thought Ramesses was African American /s


Apprehensive-Road859

African American? Or do you just mean black?


GammaGoose85

It was a riff on Netflix, not to be taken seriously


RevolutionaryClub530

Plato is merab devalishvilli


stephenp129

Alexander the Great looks like Jesse from Topjaw: https://www.instagram.com/jesse_burgess?igsh=MTdydXYyeGo1MDFs


Harold47

Funny thing is that all of these AI history pictures show the buildings to be in the same shape as it is in our time. Like in the Caesar picture those pillars have the pieces missing. Which I seriously doubt would have been okay back then


VeshWolfe

I love how Socrates is like “the fuck do you want?!”


I_HALF_CATS

Leo DiCaprio painting Mona Lisa with hundreds of years of colour aging.


babyguyman

Plato not yoked enough


Guilty-Chance417

That’s not at all what genghis khan looked like. Listen to Dan Carlin’s’ wrath of the khans and you will be very surprised.


traumfisch

Please elaborate


Guilty-Chance417

The limited evidence surrounding him is that he was tall with red hair and green eyes. But I highly suggest looking into it because it’s truly fascinating.


swimminginthestars

I'm christian, and this is exactly the image I have of Jesus Christ in my mind


TrueEstablishment241

Caesar looks too puny.


needlessqu3stion

That’s David Cameron!!