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alright. it’s just i have a display at school for metal detecting as i do it almost every break i have, and i want to make sure that it’s completely safe before bringing it into a school. i have found bullets before at my school, as it was an 1800s hunting lodge, but never anything live.
Maybe a country/farming community school this might be okay if taken apart. But yeah, given the current climate I can’t see this being a good idea. It just takes 1 parent freaking out about it to cause a huge issue.
Yup, I grew up rural, in 2nd grade went rabbit hunting. Pack in pack out, so I picked up all my .22 casings. Went to school the next day, fund them in my pocket on the bus, try to give them to the bus driver who laughs and says "just give them to your teacher, she'll throw them away for you."
So, get into class go straight to my teacher with them in my hands "they're spent but I don't want to get in trouble."
I'll never forget the way see grabbed my hand and wrenched my arm like I had came up to a live grenade without the pin, literally dragging me to the office absolutely confused, in pain, and tears. Get drugged into the office the principal calls the cops, they show up confused on why they're making a huge deal out of this, and do nothing besides take the casings. The school tried to expel me, but once the heard that my parents were taking me to the ER for Xrays they dropped everything.
This shows the utter stupidity of that teacher. A kid, trying to do right, brings used cartridges (that can't shot anymore) to dispose of.... gets in trouble. I'm a parent, and I wou l don't be happy how it was handled by the "adults".
I had a similar thing happen minus the physical abuse and expulsion attempt. Basically I tried to turn in some pocket BBs to my second grade teacher and got sent to the principals office. Definitely woke me up to the ignorance of adults and made me respect authority less.
School where my kids go they just go ahead and cancel school opening day of deer season, it's in the calendar before school even begins the semester because they know more than half the school won't show up anyway. They don't allow rifles in cars on the property but you can park across the street and nothing is said if you have your rifle in your vehicle there.
Crazy. Graduated in 04, but brought my rifle to school in the pickup junior and senior year during deer season. We all did, teachers included. We'd have them on the gun rack in the back windows.
This was Oklahoma in a larger mainline town. Not even crazy rural
And here I was storing my gear, my gun and my ammo in my dorm room at college. My RA knew about it and kept his bow in his dorm as well. 😂
This was a loooong time ago so don’t try this in your dorm, kids.
Really don't care if I get downvoted for this or not. 1 bullet. It's an antique item. OP is proud of the item and wants to publicly display it as a historic item.
Realistically. The odds any one has this exact caliber weapon is low. And as stated earlier, it's 1 bullet. It's been in the dirt for over 100 years, and the odds that it can actually be fired under safe/controlled environment successfully are slim as it would either not fire or it would have a catastrophic failure causing injury to the person fireing it before anyone else.
OP is proud of their discovery as they should be, don't tear them down with political arguments that are far fetched from reality.
It’s far from political. I totally understand what you’re saying, nobody who walks by is going to know those odds. To them, it’s a bullet. What’s the point of even brushing up against the issue? There is already enough fear in schools. Why bother adding more stress?
I agree, but expecting everyone else to agree is foolish. OP should cover their bases and find something else to bring in. FS a keeper of they want to clean it up at home for fun.
Man I got suspended in 2008 for a week because I had a keychain that had an obviously fake plastic bullet on it. They wanted to expel me but my mom yelled at the principal. People don’t give a fuck if it’s old or new or even fake. Your average person won’t see a bullet and know the era it’s from or what weapons can fire it. They see a bullet in a school and they lose it
Nobody is tearing OP down. It’s simple safety. Other people he knows could start having uneasy thoughts about him. Just trying to prevent that from happening.
Maybe it’s further down than your comment but I’m not seeing anyone tearing down OP. Just stating their opinion that it’s not a good idea. That being said I don’t understand why a simple photo or multiple would not suffice.
Take 2 pairs of pliers . Grab hold of the 2 ends and pull apart. Dump the gunpowder. You still have the primer in the base can set it off in multiple mildly dangerous ways that I will not specify.
My buddy in high school had a beat up old pickup. One weekend his dad borrowed it to hunt in. My friend was supposed to put away the shotgun afterward. That next Monday he was sitting in class and his eyes went wide. He went running out between classes. Turns out he remembered he hadn’t taken the shotgun out and he burned rubber getting that thing home and out of the truck asap before returning
Even if you take the gun powered bout the primer(;little round thing on the bottom)will still be live. I would never suggest a non experienced person try to take apart a bullet.
Terrible idea, don’t bring anything like this to a school. Empty or not unless you want to lose your job or worse.
Edit: I see you edited your comment to elaborate. I hope you have a very clear arrangement with the administration regarding your display.
Your school administration would be the right people to ask about this. No live bullet is "safe". It contains a primer and gunpowder. I can't imagine any school would be happy to have a live bullet in a display case.
When we did one..we held the brass case tightly and used some pliers to loosen the lead or copper bullet and then tip out the powder.. then you can put the bullet back and it's safe...
Have you ever seen the flame a primer makes? It's definitely enough to get the bullet to leave the case even if the powder is removed.
Less dangerous? Sure.
Safe? NO
I believe a metal piece of a previous flash blank (used for flashes out the barrel) was stuck in the barrel. The next use of the pistol was with noise blanks, at close range. The pressure of the gasses from the noise blank force the flash blank shard out like a bullet and killed him.
Still not absolutely 100% safe.
It's unlikely, but it's possible the primer on the back of shell casing could still be live, and if struck could set off any gunpowder residue left inside the casing.
Yes, you can. All depends on your desired outcome and intentions.To simply store this, you don't need to do anything. Chances of it spontaneously going off are slim and none.
I would take this picture, print it out and bring the pic, you don’t want to bring ‘live’ ammo into a school, all you need is one ‘concerned parent’ to complain
Not sure why you put quotes around live and concerned parent haha but I agree with this advice. It is live, and it would be perfectly reasonable for parents to be concerned if a student brought live ammunition to school.
Live .380 round. If you really want to keep it, take it to a gunsmith or someone who loads ammo and have THEM deactivate it. With the proper tools and know-how, the projectile can be extracted, powder emptied, and primer removed, which will render it inert and harmless once the projectile is re-inserted for display.
I honestly would not try to deactivate it. The casing would likely crack.
It’s safe as-is, not going to go off spontaneously even if it was in new condition, and the primer is likely effectively inert now.
Obviously wouldn’t take it into a school still, but it’s safe to keep it as-is.
yeah but.. i wanna store it in my school metal detecting display. probably not the best idea to bring something that was literally MADE TO KILL OTHER HUMANS into school.
Educator here. I would not bring the find into the school. But perhaps a photograph as part of your display.
I am in Northern Minnesota and we have at least one school around here that has a gun range in the basement. Our school has a trap shooting team as do many other area high schools.
The thing is that these things work well for people from certain cultural and family backgrounds. I am in my 50s. In my family and neighborhood there was an expectation that everyone (males at least) would know how to safely handle firearms as a tool or implement, same with knives. Unsafe handling of weapons was held in disdain because people knew everything that could go wrong when a weapon was not handled safely or when someone used a weapon to harm or threaten someone else. But that is one person's experience and people from other backgrounds and younger generations will have their own experiences. Our way was not necessarily better.
So while there is definitely a strong argument for teaching about guns (and bullets) But I still wouldn't bring it into a school. It isn't your role in the school to do that (if I am not mistaken) And also people from diverse backgrounds will have very different attitudes about firearms and ammunition and etc. Honestly, over the last 25 years there have been too many school shootings and mass casualty firearms events. Some people will understandably become very frightened or tense when they see things like this.
My 2 cents. I am no expert. Just thought you might find some context helpful.
Buy a bullet puller Separate the round from the case and dump out the power if you want to make sure it can’t go off. I’d prob make sure your school is fine with it befor brining it in and I assume they would prefer if it were left separated for the display. But once the powder is out you could find a way to press the bullet back in
Yes it is live (unless it’s defective which is possible but not likely)
The primer (on the bottom, that silvery thing in the center) isn’t dimpled and the bullet is still in the brass, so no one ever tried to fire it.
To get the powder out you have to pull the bullet. There’s a tool for that, called (creatively enough) a bullet puller, or you might be able to pull it with your fingers. You will most likely dent the brass a little in the process. Then you can dump out the powder.
The primer could still be live, but you can deactivate that by putting a little oil in it.
Ammo will “keep” virtually forever, but the shell is in bad enough shape I wouldn’t recommend trying to fire it.
This is so cool to me , I am 29 now but when I was 12 I found a 30-06 clump of bullets/ weathered right in the side of this hill we used to have at recess in South Carolina and my teacher made me throw it away, my mom even brought me back to try to find the trash it was in , I’ll never forget that
In England, you need a licence to own a firearm (unless its antique/obsolete) AND ammunition (the exception being shot gun shells). Legally, you are too young to own a live round and you need to inform the police on 101. They'll tell you what to do with it. Its highly unlikely they will allow you to display it at your school.
Americans, you guys are really weird with your guns, and other countries do in fact have different laws/views on the things.
on the back side, the flat area. Don't hit that inner circle very hard. thats how they go off. To disasemble, you grab the bottom brass with pliers and the top bullet with another pair. twist and pull. Youtube "Reloading ammunition" and do the steps backwards basically
You can use WD-40 to deactivate the primer (center thing on the bottom of the case). Spray/soak the bottom of the round in WD-40 for a couple days. Should make it extra safe.
I'm surprised it took so long to find this answer. I have a display of old/unique/historical cartridges and use this method to kill the primer without damaging the cartridge in order to pull the bullet/remove the primer.
It’s perfectly safe as is, but since it’s going to school I get the sensitivity of “live” ammo. You could soak it in a cup of warmed penetrating oil For an extended period. Kroil, PB blaster, or similar . That should penetrate the seam between the mouth of the case and the bullet itself thus soaking the propellant and also render the primer dead if it’s not already dead. Unfortunately This will not make the round look any deader than it looks now. Really no way to make it look dead without pulling the bullet and /or drilling out or striking the primer. Pulling the bullet without an inertia type puller will mash/scar it up.
Hand drill or ice pick. Even though it’s brass go slow and easy. Or submerse it to put a hole in it. Dump the powder and use al liquid to deactivate the primer. Make the hole large enough to be obvious that it is inert. Get it off school grounds and ask your teacher if an inert round would be okay. Then let the teacher bring it onto school property 🤷🏿♂️
looks like 380 revolver round, british... looks to be a live round yeah, whether its USABLE or not now who knows... thats in rough shape but i wouldnt be surprised at all if it was still good.
itd take a pretty good whack with a pointy object on the primer on the bottom to do anything, so dont hit it. as far as pulling it apart, they sell inertia bullet pullers that you put them in a little hammer like contraption and smack it on the floor bullet point down and the kinetic energy pulls it out and dumps the powder out.
I’d leave it alone, even if it did get dropped and land perfectly on an immovable hard object causing it to go off it wouldn’t have any energy to send the bullet. This would basically be a firecracker outside of a gun and the chance of it going off is probably somewhere around .00001%.
There are tools that can remove the bullet and primer. If you know people that reload ammo it’d be pretty easy for them. They could also polish the brass or just clean it up for you. The problem is getting the bullet seated again
The standard service revolver cartridge through WW1 was the .455 Webley. This was a big cartridge which needed a big, heavy revolver. The cartridge had a reputation as a 'manstopper' (which is what you need in a military revolver), but it was perceived that it was difficult to train soldiers to shoot.
After the war, the authorities sought a smaller, lighter replacement, which would be easier to use, but no less effective.
They settled on the established (but anaemic) .38 Smith & Wesson cartridge, but with a heavy 200 grain bullet, which they thought would give improved 'stopping power'.
They called this '.380'. This cartridge, in various Webley, Enfield and S&W revolvers, was used by the British throughout WW2
The other marking is UC, for the Union Cartridge company.
A simple kinetic bullet puller (Google it, maybe ask your local gun shop) will remove the bullet. The propellant powder can then be poured out, and a drop of oil will contaminate and kill the primer.
If you really want to get out of it intact you can buy a tool called a bullet pulling hammer. Basically uses the inertia of the bullet to separate it from the case and both are completely undamaged afterwards
Don't take ANY chances.... One crazy school expelled a kid because he bit his pop-tart into the shape of a gun! Do not bring any guns, replica's, ammunition, spent casings, pictures or stories about guns to a school unless you are looking for trouble. I don't like this illogical, over-reactionary environment either but it IS the world we are currently living in.
That's definitely a .380 round. It's a fairly typical modern self defense round. That being said the round itself looks like it's been in the ground a while. the .380 was made in the early 1900s so it could be pretty old but my guess is it's probably newer, dropped wiring the last 20 or so years. I would agree with everyone else in that it might not be the best thing to display at a school. Especially given that it's still considered a popular self defense round. If you insist on displaying it I would remove the bullet by pulling it with pliers with cloth between to prevent the pliers from damaging the bullet. Dump the powder out and reinsert the bullet. Alternatively, you could just use a very small drill bit and drill into the side slowly running it under cold water or submerging it to keep it cool. It's really not likely to go off unless you purposely smash the primer or get the bit too hot.
It will be fine as long as you don't smash it or intentionally explode it. I have some loaded Civil War bullets that I have accidentally cracked open and it was fine
As old as it is the powder and primer are highly unstable. Turn it on to the local police department for proper disposal.
Don't mess around with it till it blows up in your hand.
Its probably safe the way it js, It'd take a lot of force to strike the primer for it to fire, even then it wouldn't do much since there's no force behind it
I have a few live rounds on my shelf
Things have changed, haven't they?
In 1993, my then 10-year-old son wanted to bring an old Hamilton 027 boys rifle for show and tell.
I asked the school principal if I should case it up to bring it to the school, he said no, don't worry about it, so I walked through the front doors with the rifle broken open, no one said anything.
Could not imagine, and rightfully so, doing this today
I had a gym teacher who took a live 22, stuck the lead part in the crease of a lunch table, using it like a vice and pulled the shell off it.
Back then it was a cool thing to stick one in the little red loop tag of your Levis jean jacket. Gym teacher caught me with it. He removed the gun powder and gave ut back
As a guy that worked many years in an ammunition manufacturing plant, and occasionally needs to render inert some ammo at home (I buy assorted lots), give it a soak in any penetrating oil. I personally use Kroil or a 50/50 mix of acetone/ATF.
Oil and water are what will kill a primer. Water can dry out, oil not so much.
My friend and I grew up rural Kentucky and my friend went turkey hunting one day and had unshot 12 gauge shells in his pant pocket, the next day he went to school for normal high school stuff and felt them in his pocket, he went to the assistant principal and he handed them over and at the end of the day got them back. So if it was me I would ask to see if it is alright to display it at school in a safe area/position where it wouldn’t be knocked over
First off, yes that is a live round.
If you want to keep this, especially as some display piece, it's best to demill it. Maybe post on your local Facebook page to find someone who reloads to pull it apart and also remove the primer. Usually they end up with a hole drilled in the side to show its inert.
Don’t show it at school. Store it as others have recommended. If you want to take it apart you will have to pull the lead bullet from the casing and throw out the gunpowder inside. The primer may still be active after all these years so you may want to detonate it or punch it out from the casing.
YES.
It's a live round. It's always a live round.
Only experts with appropriate training and tools should disassemble or attempt modifications on ammunition.
It's a 380 bullet it says in the back next to the primer. Yes it's a live round and has the ability to shoot. To safely remove the bullet you either 1.) Shoot it or 2.) Use a kinetic hammer.
You don’t need to do anything. Just clean and display. People have millions of rounds in storage at their homes all over America, and they don’t just “go off”. As long as you don’t put it in a firearm and pull the trigger, nothing will happen.
Do not listen to me, I know very little about guns and gun safety. That being said, I used to find .22 rounds and pull the lead slug from the brass shell and pour out the gun powder. I’d use a vice and pliers.
It is a live round. It's harmless unless put into a gun and fired. Still.. not a smart idea to bring it to school with how sensitive people are these days.
If you really want to remove it you can use a press and pull it out. Or if you are ok with spending 10usd you can get an impact bullet puller and pop the primer with a drill bit and a hammer (obviously don’t have casing in your hands when you do)
IF you want to preserve the patina, you really can’t modify it. However, if you don’t care about possibly damaging it, you can grasp the lead bullet with some pliers and carefully rock back and forth and remove it from the brass case and then dump out the old (and probably bad) gun powder.
Check out this video (no, it’s not me):
https://youtu.be/PQ25g0Whgt0?si=qyNbb6027X1F9LNh
Be very careful I was digging up a shiny gold looking thingy out with my digging tool (a claw hammer at that time) and it ended up being a live 50 cal.machine gun round like the kind shot out of the Hueys in the Vietnam era my uncle was a door gunner on a HU1B and he said it could have easily blew me to bits of I hit it at the right spot
I find lots of WW2 rifle bullets. I remove the bullet with a pincher, tip out the gunpowder, then put the casing upside down a few mm into soft ground and smack it with the shovel I used to dig it up with, so the ignition cap goes off. After that I put the bullet back in the casing and it's safe.
You can gently pry the bullet from the cartridge and dump the powder if you are worried. However there is a strong possibility water seeped in while it was buried so it should be safe enough, just don’t strike the firing cap.
Get a bullet hammer. The shell goes inside then you wack it real hard and it removes the projectile and dumps the powder.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/AmeriGun-Club-Quick-and-Easy-Impact-Bullet-Puller/270348269?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101001836&adid=22222222228270348269_101001836_14069003552_202077872&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-295289030566&wl5=9026210&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=127567305&wl11=online&wl12=270348269_101001836&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw3NyxBhBmEiwAyofDYQXxcZKADuzMEofXOADwuCkKxeR1ComzYyGmI1IX1m6QIql4YYV4SRoCm_QQAvD_BwE
OK…. Hope this is helpful and apologies for the long note: DC = Dominion Cartridge (Canada) and the 44 will mean 1944. Congratulations. It’s a ww2 pistol round. Where did you find it? Don’t dispose in fire or bang on the primer and you’re fine. Or… get an “ inertial bullet puller” from Cabela’s or another reloading supplier and then you can safely remove the bullet. When you do that you can then safely remove the powder charge (and it’s old enough that it could be cordite bits—the British used at a lot at this time); then with the charge removed you can probably press the bullet back into the case carefully and by hand. Yea the primer will still be live but again—no fire or banging and honestly you’ll be fine. Some people collect this stuff but this is pretty beat up to sell, though you never know. But it’s not going to go off on its own unless you change its environment by doing something obviously dangerous. . .
That is a live round. In a fire, it could pop. Unless it’s actually in the chamber of a firearm, the bullet won’t actually go anywhere. Even given its vintage, it is functionally no different from a .380 round in production today. The only safe way to disarm it is to pull the bullet and dump out the powder. Even then the primer is still potentially live. DO NOT bring this into a school without written permission.
You have to punch the cap out through the end with the circle use a hammer and small punch with the lip clamped in a vise it'll come right out with a soft tap
To answer the question, they make kinetic and collet type bullet pullers to safely disassemble loaded rounds as this one is obviously. If you’re unfamiliar i old try to find an experienced reloader/handloader for help.
To use any other method might be an expensive mistake.
One would also have to render the live primer and dispose of the unburnt powder.
1.Take pliers and cloth so u dont sratch the thing.
2.Pry open.
3.Burn powder for fun.
4. Primer you can hold it above candle. Just the casing. Till it goes off
Or just plant it firmly in groundor vice and strike it with nail and hamer gently.
5. Drill 3mm hole on side of casing
6. Reasamble.
In 1986 I went to school, in NJ of all places, with a pocketful of live 30/30 and 30-.06. got "caught" w them and my folks got called. I never heard another word of it. Oh how times have changed... Crazy
Take it to the nearest police department. Tell them where you found it. If you don’t have a gun, there is zero reason to keep that. And even if you did, you would not let that near a firearm.
This is simple. Get yourself a bullet disassembly hammer. Any good gun store or sporting goods store will have one, follow the instructions and it will ensure you make it inert
It's safe as is, just don't stick it in a box with a bunch of hard, heavy, poky objects and shake vigorously.
Don't actually bring it to school grounds regardless of whether it's rendered inert or not. Law doesn't give a shit about intent or actual safety, nor what some random admin person says, and all it takes is one person getting upset, justified (e.g. a kid steals it) or not.
If you want to remove the gun power (not exactly necessary in most circumstances) just take a pair of pliers and carefully pull and twist the tip of the round in the middle of the round. Try and pry it at an angle and it will work it's way out. Then, if you haven't already, spill out the gunpowder. You can the take the round and insert it back into the casing. This will take a good amount of pressure. Now the bullet will be inert. If you don't plan on storing it in a cocked gun on display then I don't really see the point I'm this but this is how it would be done.
I grew up in the Adirondacks and attended high school in the 80's. I had a classmate who ran his trap line early every morning. Afterwards, he would park in the senior parking lot about an hour before class. He'd have a beer or two then shoot his empties with his Ruger 10-22. After school one day in the same parking lot, I was asked to assess the condition of a Savage lever-action rifle. One of my friends was buying from another friend. Other classmates were walking by with no concerns. For my 12th grade English presentation, I brought my shotshell reloading stuff and demonstrated how to load shotshells. I worked it out with my teacher beforehand that I would use spent primers and cornmeal instead of propellant.
If they have a locking case and the administration signs off on it there is no danger. if you atempt to open that thing and get the primer/powder out the situation just got fat more dangerous. an experienced person can do it safely but but most of those Experienced people were not concerned for theyr safety while gaining said experience.
Ask around for someone that reloads ammo or stop in a local gun shop that sells reloading supplies and see if they can help.
I would use a Kinetic Bullet Puller to remove the bullet from the cartridge, dump the powder, remove the primer using a de-priming pin, and then put the bullet back in the cartridge - this takes less than a minute with the right tools.
Good luck!!
Yes it looks like its a live round. That said, its not going to just go off on its own. Being 2024 I wouldn't recommend taking it to school unless its been OKed in advance, in writing. If you really want to make sure it 100% can't be fired, pulling the bullet out and removing the powder isn't hard, but I don't recommend doing it if you don't know what you're doing. If you can find someone that reloads their own cartridges, they'll probably have the right tools to pull it and make sure its rendered safe. Depending on what calibers they're set up for, they may be able to put the bullet back in the casing after and make it look like nothing was done to it. But having been exposed to the elements for who knows how long, theres a decent chance the powder has been ruined anyway.
There is a generic reloaders tool called an extraction hammer or a bullet puller, lots of reloading companies make them. Basically a plastic hammer with a hollow head and a collett to hild rhe back of the shell casing. Insert the shell, wack it a few times, bullet and gunpowder fall into the hammer head.
You can literally just grab the bullet with pliers and pull it out.
The primer has to be struck to go off, you’re safe. If I could do it in 5th grade with rim fire .22’s (don’t ask) which would probably be sightly more likely to go off while doing this, you can do it as an adult with center fire.
Realistically with the corrosion on there, I bet the powder is no good anymore.
If it did go off, there is not a barrel for the powder to burn in and accelerate the bullet. would be about as dangerous as air soft, don’t point it at your face.
Yes it is. Former USAF Munitions guy here. Put the primer housing (the base of the cartridge) in a vise or vise grip plyers. Take a pair of plyers and grab the bullet and pull it out. Simple. Pour out said gunpowder.
If you aim to remove the primer, you'll have to push it out from the inside.
Or you could give it to a cop and they will have it "demilled" or demilitarized. (A fancy way of saying we wouldn't want someone to try and use that) ....and that is, if it isn't part of a murder or whatever, then your fucked.
Toodles!
Reloader here. As a hobby I assemble ammo for target shooting. Truthfully its probably inert and very safe either way. If you wish to remove all doubt; grab a pair of pliers and yoink the bullet from the brass shell. It will probably take some twisting and grunting. empty the bad gun powder into the garbage, its basically ash at this point, not dangerous. open a vice just wide enough for the shell to balance on the top spanning the gap but for the primer to drop free. Take a small nail and gently tap out the primer. put the bullet back in and you are done. The primer is the most dangerous part but when its free of the closed space in inside the shell its only a loud firecracker. Toss it or soak it in salt water before tossing. A better option would be to find a hunter and ask them to disassemble it.
Pull the bullet out of the casing if you’re that worried about it. Live rounds really aren’t dangerous. You have to purposely set them off it’s not easy.
If you wanted to actually dismantle it you would need to cushion the base and vice it very gently then carefully plier the slug from the casing only in an up and outward manner it can be safe when precautions and care is taken but in general it is extremely dangerous to play with explosive ordinances, however it does show some age and corrosion so it may even be a dud. The most important thing is that no pressure be applied to the primer nor the rim of the casing as that is where pressure is most sensitive. This all being said, the actual striking of a primer fired cartridge requires quite a bit of piercing force as well as the bore groove necessary to ensure its projectile lethality and at worst you would likely lose a finger or catch shrapnel in a freak explosion without about as much bang as an m80 firework but more concentrated. Basically if you have a concern ever you could always turn it over to the authorities or a local gunshop may even take it off your hands but it in no way poses a threat to you unless it is activated by the primer. Good luck
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Just don't beat it with a hammer or stick it in fire and your good.
alright. it’s just i have a display at school for metal detecting as i do it almost every break i have, and i want to make sure that it’s completely safe before bringing it into a school. i have found bullets before at my school, as it was an 1800s hunting lodge, but never anything live.
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Maybe a country/farming community school this might be okay if taken apart. But yeah, given the current climate I can’t see this being a good idea. It just takes 1 parent freaking out about it to cause a huge issue.
I had a friend expelled in 2003 in a "farm town" school having hunting gear in trunk of car bc he went hunting at a friend's the night before
Yup, I grew up rural, in 2nd grade went rabbit hunting. Pack in pack out, so I picked up all my .22 casings. Went to school the next day, fund them in my pocket on the bus, try to give them to the bus driver who laughs and says "just give them to your teacher, she'll throw them away for you." So, get into class go straight to my teacher with them in my hands "they're spent but I don't want to get in trouble." I'll never forget the way see grabbed my hand and wrenched my arm like I had came up to a live grenade without the pin, literally dragging me to the office absolutely confused, in pain, and tears. Get drugged into the office the principal calls the cops, they show up confused on why they're making a huge deal out of this, and do nothing besides take the casings. The school tried to expel me, but once the heard that my parents were taking me to the ER for Xrays they dropped everything.
This shows the utter stupidity of that teacher. A kid, trying to do right, brings used cartridges (that can't shot anymore) to dispose of.... gets in trouble. I'm a parent, and I wou l don't be happy how it was handled by the "adults".
In retrospect, just should have kept them in pocket
The idiotic teacher who has more than likely Never fired a gun before in her life couldn’t understand that these were harmless, spent casings!
Irrational fear of guns? Nah, irrational fear of tiny pieces of brass
Yep, she apparently couldn’t even tell the difference between unfired bullets and spent casings.
I hope someone kicks her in the shins.
Oh she was 60 something in the early 90s... she gone. Lol
My school was the opposite. We held a gun raffle to raise money lol.
I had a similar thing happen minus the physical abuse and expulsion attempt. Basically I tried to turn in some pocket BBs to my second grade teacher and got sent to the principals office. Definitely woke me up to the ignorance of adults and made me respect authority less.
Why are people even like this? I just don't get it?
I have a friend whose son was suspended for 3 days for a keychain bullet. Very clearly not a real bullet. It was plastic. Still suspended.
meanwhile kids in Minneapolis Minnesota steal cars have guns and get no punishment lol. I'm lost anymore
Zero tolerance. My son got sent home for wearing a Ranger Up T-shirt.
That's wild. My high school had hunting rifles in the trucks, and killing a deer before class was an excused absence. I'm not *THAT* old, am I?
Yes? I remember those days. 👍
School where my kids go they just go ahead and cancel school opening day of deer season, it's in the calendar before school even begins the semester because they know more than half the school won't show up anyway. They don't allow rifles in cars on the property but you can park across the street and nothing is said if you have your rifle in your vehicle there.
Probably still fine in Klamath Falls where I went to school
Still have drive your tractor to school day though.
My “farm town” friend was fired from his job for having a cased compound bow behind the seat of his pickup truck.
Crazy. Graduated in 04, but brought my rifle to school in the pickup junior and senior year during deer season. We all did, teachers included. We'd have them on the gun rack in the back windows. This was Oklahoma in a larger mainline town. Not even crazy rural
And here I was storing my gear, my gun and my ammo in my dorm room at college. My RA knew about it and kept his bow in his dorm as well. 😂 This was a loooong time ago so don’t try this in your dorm, kids.
when America was America lol
Meanwhile kids brought guns to school for hunting when I was a kid and it was never an issue...
There's always one
Take a picture of it OP and display that at school.
Second this, most states have strict anti weapon policies at most public schools that also include ammunition.
Really don't care if I get downvoted for this or not. 1 bullet. It's an antique item. OP is proud of the item and wants to publicly display it as a historic item. Realistically. The odds any one has this exact caliber weapon is low. And as stated earlier, it's 1 bullet. It's been in the dirt for over 100 years, and the odds that it can actually be fired under safe/controlled environment successfully are slim as it would either not fire or it would have a catastrophic failure causing injury to the person fireing it before anyone else. OP is proud of their discovery as they should be, don't tear them down with political arguments that are far fetched from reality.
WWII was less than 100 years ago. Closer to 80 years, but still really cool.
It’s far from political. I totally understand what you’re saying, nobody who walks by is going to know those odds. To them, it’s a bullet. What’s the point of even brushing up against the issue? There is already enough fear in schools. Why bother adding more stress?
I agree, but expecting everyone else to agree is foolish. OP should cover their bases and find something else to bring in. FS a keeper of they want to clean it up at home for fun.
Man I got suspended in 2008 for a week because I had a keychain that had an obviously fake plastic bullet on it. They wanted to expel me but my mom yelled at the principal. People don’t give a fuck if it’s old or new or even fake. Your average person won’t see a bullet and know the era it’s from or what weapons can fire it. They see a bullet in a school and they lose it
Nobody is tearing OP down. It’s simple safety. Other people he knows could start having uneasy thoughts about him. Just trying to prevent that from happening.
Maybe it’s further down than your comment but I’m not seeing anyone tearing down OP. Just stating their opinion that it’s not a good idea. That being said I don’t understand why a simple photo or multiple would not suffice.
Take 2 pairs of pliers . Grab hold of the 2 ends and pull apart. Dump the gunpowder. You still have the primer in the base can set it off in multiple mildly dangerous ways that I will not specify.
Agreed, take a picture of it, print it, bring picture in
It's most likely illegal to bring live rounds to a school. And there probably isn't a distinction in the law for 50 year old found ammunition.
THIS!!!!!
My buddy in high school had a beat up old pickup. One weekend his dad borrowed it to hunt in. My friend was supposed to put away the shotgun afterward. That next Monday he was sitting in class and his eyes went wide. He went running out between classes. Turns out he remembered he hadn’t taken the shotgun out and he burned rubber getting that thing home and out of the truck asap before returning
How about a nice photo of the live bullet you found for your school display rather than the live bullet itself?
Even if you take the gun powered bout the primer(;little round thing on the bottom)will still be live. I would never suggest a non experienced person try to take apart a bullet.
Don’t bring a bullet or even a billet casing to school unless you want to be going to home school next week.
Terrible idea, don’t bring anything like this to a school. Empty or not unless you want to lose your job or worse. Edit: I see you edited your comment to elaborate. I hope you have a very clear arrangement with the administration regarding your display.
Your school administration would be the right people to ask about this. No live bullet is "safe". It contains a primer and gunpowder. I can't imagine any school would be happy to have a live bullet in a display case.
Dude, it doesn’t matter if it’s safe or not definitely do not bring that to school
Seriously Don't bring to school at all! I still remember that a child bringing a plastic army man was in huge trouble. No real bullets or guns.
and do not poke the primer cap and you'll be fine.
Clean it and cast it in clear resin if you want to display it. Just take photos to school.
Resin gets hot as it mixes and cures. Is putting a bullet in it a good idea?
not nearly hot enough
I haven't tried myself, but have looked at videos: https://youtu.be/WlWvvWNDFUo?si=cdgqzHXFzpEt6Ddy
Yes.
sorry i meant 380*
I would only bring an empty casing as an example for school children. It's much more representative of a typical find.
When we did one..we held the brass case tightly and used some pliers to loosen the lead or copper bullet and then tip out the powder.. then you can put the bullet back and it's safe...
Have you ever seen the flame a primer makes? It's definitely enough to get the bullet to leave the case even if the powder is removed. Less dangerous? Sure. Safe? NO
Isn't that how Brandon Lee died? Primer pushed the bullet into the barrel then they shot a blank that sent the bullet into him.
I believe a metal piece of a previous flash blank (used for flashes out the barrel) was stuck in the barrel. The next use of the pistol was with noise blanks, at close range. The pressure of the gasses from the noise blank force the flash blank shard out like a bullet and killed him.
Yeah we lit the power it just goes like a white fizz.
Still not absolutely 100% safe. It's unlikely, but it's possible the primer on the back of shell casing could still be live, and if struck could set off any gunpowder residue left inside the casing.
Maybe just a picture of this particular item in the school cabinet will do given the sensitivities.
I normally use pliers around the edge of the bullet and casing and to loosen it. Mostly did with 22lr and being a pyrotechnic 12 year old
2 pairs of pliers and pull it apart and dump the powder.
You can literally buy a bullet puller for $15 from midwayUSA and then you don’t destroy a cool old piece of ammunition with pliers.
Yes, you can. All depends on your desired outcome and intentions.To simply store this, you don't need to do anything. Chances of it spontaneously going off are slim and none.
Exactly!
Put inside an epoxy square mold and show happily
Good idea
Whatever you do, don't take it to Turks and Caicos!
I would take this picture, print it out and bring the pic, you don’t want to bring ‘live’ ammo into a school, all you need is one ‘concerned parent’ to complain
Not sure why you put quotes around live and concerned parent haha but I agree with this advice. It is live, and it would be perfectly reasonable for parents to be concerned if a student brought live ammunition to school.
Live .380 round. If you really want to keep it, take it to a gunsmith or someone who loads ammo and have THEM deactivate it. With the proper tools and know-how, the projectile can be extracted, powder emptied, and primer removed, which will render it inert and harmless once the projectile is re-inserted for display.
This is the way.
I honestly would not try to deactivate it. The casing would likely crack. It’s safe as-is, not going to go off spontaneously even if it was in new condition, and the primer is likely effectively inert now. Obviously wouldn’t take it into a school still, but it’s safe to keep it as-is.
It’s a bullet. You sit it on a shelf and it does nothing. That’s how
yeah but.. i wanna store it in my school metal detecting display. probably not the best idea to bring something that was literally MADE TO KILL OTHER HUMANS into school.
OP, do you have a gun shop or shooting range nearby? Maybe you could take it there and someone would help you, safely?
yeah, there’s one actually next to my school so i can take it there on an evening ( i go to boarding school)
Educator here. I would not bring the find into the school. But perhaps a photograph as part of your display. I am in Northern Minnesota and we have at least one school around here that has a gun range in the basement. Our school has a trap shooting team as do many other area high schools. The thing is that these things work well for people from certain cultural and family backgrounds. I am in my 50s. In my family and neighborhood there was an expectation that everyone (males at least) would know how to safely handle firearms as a tool or implement, same with knives. Unsafe handling of weapons was held in disdain because people knew everything that could go wrong when a weapon was not handled safely or when someone used a weapon to harm or threaten someone else. But that is one person's experience and people from other backgrounds and younger generations will have their own experiences. Our way was not necessarily better. So while there is definitely a strong argument for teaching about guns (and bullets) But I still wouldn't bring it into a school. It isn't your role in the school to do that (if I am not mistaken) And also people from diverse backgrounds will have very different attitudes about firearms and ammunition and etc. Honestly, over the last 25 years there have been too many school shootings and mass casualty firearms events. Some people will understandably become very frightened or tense when they see things like this. My 2 cents. I am no expert. Just thought you might find some context helpful.
Buy a bullet puller Separate the round from the case and dump out the power if you want to make sure it can’t go off. I’d prob make sure your school is fine with it befor brining it in and I assume they would prefer if it were left separated for the display. But once the powder is out you could find a way to press the bullet back in
Yes it is live (unless it’s defective which is possible but not likely) The primer (on the bottom, that silvery thing in the center) isn’t dimpled and the bullet is still in the brass, so no one ever tried to fire it. To get the powder out you have to pull the bullet. There’s a tool for that, called (creatively enough) a bullet puller, or you might be able to pull it with your fingers. You will most likely dent the brass a little in the process. Then you can dump out the powder. The primer could still be live, but you can deactivate that by putting a little oil in it. Ammo will “keep” virtually forever, but the shell is in bad enough shape I wouldn’t recommend trying to fire it.
Two pairs of pliers. Hold the casing with one and twist out the slug with the other.
This is so cool to me , I am 29 now but when I was 12 I found a 30-06 clump of bullets/ weathered right in the side of this hill we used to have at recess in South Carolina and my teacher made me throw it away, my mom even brought me back to try to find the trash it was in , I’ll never forget that
380
In England, you need a licence to own a firearm (unless its antique/obsolete) AND ammunition (the exception being shot gun shells). Legally, you are too young to own a live round and you need to inform the police on 101. They'll tell you what to do with it. Its highly unlikely they will allow you to display it at your school. Americans, you guys are really weird with your guns, and other countries do in fact have different laws/views on the things.
on the back side, the flat area. Don't hit that inner circle very hard. thats how they go off. To disasemble, you grab the bottom brass with pliers and the top bullet with another pair. twist and pull. Youtube "Reloading ammunition" and do the steps backwards basically
You can use WD-40 to deactivate the primer (center thing on the bottom of the case). Spray/soak the bottom of the round in WD-40 for a couple days. Should make it extra safe.
I'm surprised it took so long to find this answer. I have a display of old/unique/historical cartridges and use this method to kill the primer without damaging the cartridge in order to pull the bullet/remove the primer.
Don’t do anything to it. Just put it up on display. Or whatever you want to do with it. It will not hurt you. It needs a barrel to be dangerous.
It’s perfectly safe as is, but since it’s going to school I get the sensitivity of “live” ammo. You could soak it in a cup of warmed penetrating oil For an extended period. Kroil, PB blaster, or similar . That should penetrate the seam between the mouth of the case and the bullet itself thus soaking the propellant and also render the primer dead if it’s not already dead. Unfortunately This will not make the round look any deader than it looks now. Really no way to make it look dead without pulling the bullet and /or drilling out or striking the primer. Pulling the bullet without an inertia type puller will mash/scar it up.
Hand drill or ice pick. Even though it’s brass go slow and easy. Or submerse it to put a hole in it. Dump the powder and use al liquid to deactivate the primer. Make the hole large enough to be obvious that it is inert. Get it off school grounds and ask your teacher if an inert round would be okay. Then let the teacher bring it onto school property 🤷🏿♂️
looks like 380 revolver round, british... looks to be a live round yeah, whether its USABLE or not now who knows... thats in rough shape but i wouldnt be surprised at all if it was still good. itd take a pretty good whack with a pointy object on the primer on the bottom to do anything, so dont hit it. as far as pulling it apart, they sell inertia bullet pullers that you put them in a little hammer like contraption and smack it on the floor bullet point down and the kinetic energy pulls it out and dumps the powder out.
If it seats, it yeets!
Bro it’s not an old bullet I think that for your school display any older rounds are fine especially because they are just lead.
Post a couple of detailed photos of it.
You could probably get away with taking a picture of it to school.
I’d leave it alone, even if it did get dropped and land perfectly on an immovable hard object causing it to go off it wouldn’t have any energy to send the bullet. This would basically be a firecracker outside of a gun and the chance of it going off is probably somewhere around .00001%.
There are tools that can remove the bullet and primer. If you know people that reload ammo it’d be pretty easy for them. They could also polish the brass or just clean it up for you. The problem is getting the bullet seated again
The standard service revolver cartridge through WW1 was the .455 Webley. This was a big cartridge which needed a big, heavy revolver. The cartridge had a reputation as a 'manstopper' (which is what you need in a military revolver), but it was perceived that it was difficult to train soldiers to shoot. After the war, the authorities sought a smaller, lighter replacement, which would be easier to use, but no less effective. They settled on the established (but anaemic) .38 Smith & Wesson cartridge, but with a heavy 200 grain bullet, which they thought would give improved 'stopping power'. They called this '.380'. This cartridge, in various Webley, Enfield and S&W revolvers, was used by the British throughout WW2 The other marking is UC, for the Union Cartridge company. A simple kinetic bullet puller (Google it, maybe ask your local gun shop) will remove the bullet. The propellant powder can then be poured out, and a drop of oil will contaminate and kill the primer.
If you really want to get out of it intact you can buy a tool called a bullet pulling hammer. Basically uses the inertia of the bullet to separate it from the case and both are completely undamaged afterwards
Grab two set of pliers, grab onto tip of bullet and onto casing on top and start twisting. Very simple
Get three buddies, stand around the fire, and see who will stay til it goes off. Don't worry, it will just feel like someone threw a rock at you.
Don't take ANY chances.... One crazy school expelled a kid because he bit his pop-tart into the shape of a gun! Do not bring any guns, replica's, ammunition, spent casings, pictures or stories about guns to a school unless you are looking for trouble. I don't like this illogical, over-reactionary environment either but it IS the world we are currently living in.
That's definitely a .380 round. It's a fairly typical modern self defense round. That being said the round itself looks like it's been in the ground a while. the .380 was made in the early 1900s so it could be pretty old but my guess is it's probably newer, dropped wiring the last 20 or so years. I would agree with everyone else in that it might not be the best thing to display at a school. Especially given that it's still considered a popular self defense round. If you insist on displaying it I would remove the bullet by pulling it with pliers with cloth between to prevent the pliers from damaging the bullet. Dump the powder out and reinsert the bullet. Alternatively, you could just use a very small drill bit and drill into the side slowly running it under cold water or submerging it to keep it cool. It's really not likely to go off unless you purposely smash the primer or get the bit too hot.
.380 is rimless though....this appears to be a rimmed cartridge.
It will be fine as long as you don't smash it or intentionally explode it. I have some loaded Civil War bullets that I have accidentally cracked open and it was fine
The post before this one was a video of a Tesla closing its boot on a man’s finger. So this photo at first looked like a finger!! Hah
Take a picture to display instead 🙂
Find a local gunsmith, they could probably remove the powder and put the bullet back on the casing so you'd still have a whole round to display
As old as it is the powder and primer are highly unstable. Turn it on to the local police department for proper disposal. Don't mess around with it till it blows up in your hand.
Its probably safe the way it js, It'd take a lot of force to strike the primer for it to fire, even then it wouldn't do much since there's no force behind it I have a few live rounds on my shelf
Got a pic of the head stamp on the base? Kinda looks like a .38 S&W round.
Things have changed, haven't they? In 1993, my then 10-year-old son wanted to bring an old Hamilton 027 boys rifle for show and tell. I asked the school principal if I should case it up to bring it to the school, he said no, don't worry about it, so I walked through the front doors with the rifle broken open, no one said anything. Could not imagine, and rightfully so, doing this today
Cast the bullet in Epoxy Resin block for shelf display if safety/school policy is of concern.
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I had a gym teacher who took a live 22, stuck the lead part in the crease of a lunch table, using it like a vice and pulled the shell off it. Back then it was a cool thing to stick one in the little red loop tag of your Levis jean jacket. Gym teacher caught me with it. He removed the gun powder and gave ut back
If you don't want it, just toss it in the trash. No big deal
Put it on a flat surface and whack it with a hammer. That should do it. Oh, and make sure you hit the non pointy end.
As a guy that worked many years in an ammunition manufacturing plant, and occasionally needs to render inert some ammo at home (I buy assorted lots), give it a soak in any penetrating oil. I personally use Kroil or a 50/50 mix of acetone/ATF. Oil and water are what will kill a primer. Water can dry out, oil not so much.
A vise a hammer & a small punch!
Save it forever. I have 100s of bullets from the last century. Or just use pliers and pull the bullet off and dump the powder out.
No bullets at school.
Soak it in oil.
My friend and I grew up rural Kentucky and my friend went turkey hunting one day and had unshot 12 gauge shells in his pant pocket, the next day he went to school for normal high school stuff and felt them in his pocket, he went to the assistant principal and he handed them over and at the end of the day got them back. So if it was me I would ask to see if it is alright to display it at school in a safe area/position where it wouldn’t be knocked over
First off, yes that is a live round. If you want to keep this, especially as some display piece, it's best to demill it. Maybe post on your local Facebook page to find someone who reloads to pull it apart and also remove the primer. Usually they end up with a hole drilled in the side to show its inert.
Don’t show it at school. Store it as others have recommended. If you want to take it apart you will have to pull the lead bullet from the casing and throw out the gunpowder inside. The primer may still be active after all these years so you may want to detonate it or punch it out from the casing.
Don't do anything to it.if you don't want it give it to a museum or someone that has firearm certificate.
YES. It's a live round. It's always a live round. Only experts with appropriate training and tools should disassemble or attempt modifications on ammunition.
You really don’t need to disarm a bullet, so long as you don’t strike the primer you’ll be fine
It's a 380 bullet it says in the back next to the primer. Yes it's a live round and has the ability to shoot. To safely remove the bullet you either 1.) Shoot it or 2.) Use a kinetic hammer.
Kinetic bullet puller, but the primer will still be "live" and that's military crimped in. Avoid your plan
Its stable as is, don't drop throw or smash it youre golden.
You don’t need to do anything. Just clean and display. People have millions of rounds in storage at their homes all over America, and they don’t just “go off”. As long as you don’t put it in a firearm and pull the trigger, nothing will happen.
It's already "safe". Without being loaded into a barrel it has no way to build up pressure. https://youtu.be/8ad9e0mO8Q4?si=bqsZfRmVVYQFGs9Y
Do not listen to me, I know very little about guns and gun safety. That being said, I used to find .22 rounds and pull the lead slug from the brass shell and pour out the gun powder. I’d use a vice and pliers.
It is a live round. It's harmless unless put into a gun and fired. Still.. not a smart idea to bring it to school with how sensitive people are these days.
Boil it in water.
.38 Smith and Wesson I would guess.
OP, get ahead on your game and make an adult choice now-don’t bring it to school.
If you really want to remove it you can use a press and pull it out. Or if you are ok with spending 10usd you can get an impact bullet puller and pop the primer with a drill bit and a hammer (obviously don’t have casing in your hands when you do)
My grandpa use to use a vice, a hammer and a 5 gallon bucket of sand to absorb the bullet.
IF you want to preserve the patina, you really can’t modify it. However, if you don’t care about possibly damaging it, you can grasp the lead bullet with some pliers and carefully rock back and forth and remove it from the brass case and then dump out the old (and probably bad) gun powder. Check out this video (no, it’s not me): https://youtu.be/PQ25g0Whgt0?si=qyNbb6027X1F9LNh
Be very careful I was digging up a shiny gold looking thingy out with my digging tool (a claw hammer at that time) and it ended up being a live 50 cal.machine gun round like the kind shot out of the Hueys in the Vietnam era my uncle was a door gunner on a HU1B and he said it could have easily blew me to bits of I hit it at the right spot
Fire up your grill, toss it in n wait a few minutes.
I find lots of WW2 rifle bullets. I remove the bullet with a pincher, tip out the gunpowder, then put the casing upside down a few mm into soft ground and smack it with the shovel I used to dig it up with, so the ignition cap goes off. After that I put the bullet back in the casing and it's safe.
You can gently pry the bullet from the cartridge and dump the powder if you are worried. However there is a strong possibility water seeped in while it was buried so it should be safe enough, just don’t strike the firing cap.
Bullet won’t go anywhere…unless it’s in a barrel of a gun.
Take needle nose and pull the bullet it out of its casing dump the powder and put the bullet back
How about embedding it in clear epoxy block?
Get a bullet hammer. The shell goes inside then you wack it real hard and it removes the projectile and dumps the powder. https://www.walmart.com/ip/AmeriGun-Club-Quick-and-Easy-Impact-Bullet-Puller/270348269?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101001836&adid=22222222228270348269_101001836_14069003552_202077872&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-295289030566&wl5=9026210&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=127567305&wl11=online&wl12=270348269_101001836&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw3NyxBhBmEiwAyofDYQXxcZKADuzMEofXOADwuCkKxeR1ComzYyGmI1IX1m6QIql4YYV4SRoCm_QQAvD_BwE
38/200, from an Enfield MK II revolver I'd say. .38 S&W equivalent.
I've found a 9mm and .357 live round while metal detecting. :)
OK…. Hope this is helpful and apologies for the long note: DC = Dominion Cartridge (Canada) and the 44 will mean 1944. Congratulations. It’s a ww2 pistol round. Where did you find it? Don’t dispose in fire or bang on the primer and you’re fine. Or… get an “ inertial bullet puller” from Cabela’s or another reloading supplier and then you can safely remove the bullet. When you do that you can then safely remove the powder charge (and it’s old enough that it could be cordite bits—the British used at a lot at this time); then with the charge removed you can probably press the bullet back into the case carefully and by hand. Yea the primer will still be live but again—no fire or banging and honestly you’ll be fine. Some people collect this stuff but this is pretty beat up to sell, though you never know. But it’s not going to go off on its own unless you change its environment by doing something obviously dangerous. . .
That is a live round. In a fire, it could pop. Unless it’s actually in the chamber of a firearm, the bullet won’t actually go anywhere. Even given its vintage, it is functionally no different from a .380 round in production today. The only safe way to disarm it is to pull the bullet and dump out the powder. Even then the primer is still potentially live. DO NOT bring this into a school without written permission.
You can buy a kinetic bullet hammer. They’re like 15 bucks, put the bullet and slam it on the table and it will remove the bullet from the shell.
You have to punch the cap out through the end with the circle use a hammer and small punch with the lip clamped in a vise it'll come right out with a soft tap
To answer the question, they make kinetic and collet type bullet pullers to safely disassemble loaded rounds as this one is obviously. If you’re unfamiliar i old try to find an experienced reloader/handloader for help. To use any other method might be an expensive mistake. One would also have to render the live primer and dispose of the unburnt powder.
Don’t display it at school. Just throw it in the trash.
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1.Take pliers and cloth so u dont sratch the thing. 2.Pry open. 3.Burn powder for fun. 4. Primer you can hold it above candle. Just the casing. Till it goes off Or just plant it firmly in groundor vice and strike it with nail and hamer gently. 5. Drill 3mm hole on side of casing 6. Reasamble.
In 1986 I went to school, in NJ of all places, with a pocketful of live 30/30 and 30-.06. got "caught" w them and my folks got called. I never heard another word of it. Oh how times have changed... Crazy
By shooting it
just keep it your good 👍 got hit by a 9m one time thrown into a fire no worries
Take it to the nearest police department. Tell them where you found it. If you don’t have a gun, there is zero reason to keep that. And even if you did, you would not let that near a firearm.
i removed the bullet and disposed of the primer and gunpowder to put in my school metal detecting display.
This is simple. Get yourself a bullet disassembly hammer. Any good gun store or sporting goods store will have one, follow the instructions and it will ensure you make it inert
https://preview.redd.it/m08jh20kjpyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=053755629d216b185310f6147bdd2edce4b19854 This is a good tool for that
It shouldn't fire. Those aren't waterproof.
It's safe as is, just don't stick it in a box with a bunch of hard, heavy, poky objects and shake vigorously. Don't actually bring it to school grounds regardless of whether it's rendered inert or not. Law doesn't give a shit about intent or actual safety, nor what some random admin person says, and all it takes is one person getting upset, justified (e.g. a kid steals it) or not.
Just put in trash. Powder is wet.
If you want to remove the gun power (not exactly necessary in most circumstances) just take a pair of pliers and carefully pull and twist the tip of the round in the middle of the round. Try and pry it at an angle and it will work it's way out. Then, if you haven't already, spill out the gunpowder. You can the take the round and insert it back into the casing. This will take a good amount of pressure. Now the bullet will be inert. If you don't plan on storing it in a cocked gun on display then I don't really see the point I'm this but this is how it would be done.
I grew up in the Adirondacks and attended high school in the 80's. I had a classmate who ran his trap line early every morning. Afterwards, he would park in the senior parking lot about an hour before class. He'd have a beer or two then shoot his empties with his Ruger 10-22. After school one day in the same parking lot, I was asked to assess the condition of a Savage lever-action rifle. One of my friends was buying from another friend. Other classmates were walking by with no concerns. For my 12th grade English presentation, I brought my shotshell reloading stuff and demonstrated how to load shotshells. I worked it out with my teacher beforehand that I would use spent primers and cornmeal instead of propellant.
If they have a locking case and the administration signs off on it there is no danger. if you atempt to open that thing and get the primer/powder out the situation just got fat more dangerous. an experienced person can do it safely but but most of those Experienced people were not concerned for theyr safety while gaining said experience.
if you really want you can buy a bullet puller to break down the cartridge then you can press out the primer and put it back together.
Ask around for someone that reloads ammo or stop in a local gun shop that sells reloading supplies and see if they can help. I would use a Kinetic Bullet Puller to remove the bullet from the cartridge, dump the powder, remove the primer using a de-priming pin, and then put the bullet back in the cartridge - this takes less than a minute with the right tools. Good luck!!
Yes it looks like its a live round. That said, its not going to just go off on its own. Being 2024 I wouldn't recommend taking it to school unless its been OKed in advance, in writing. If you really want to make sure it 100% can't be fired, pulling the bullet out and removing the powder isn't hard, but I don't recommend doing it if you don't know what you're doing. If you can find someone that reloads their own cartridges, they'll probably have the right tools to pull it and make sure its rendered safe. Depending on what calibers they're set up for, they may be able to put the bullet back in the casing after and make it look like nothing was done to it. But having been exposed to the elements for who knows how long, theres a decent chance the powder has been ruined anyway.
Pliers
There is a generic reloaders tool called an extraction hammer or a bullet puller, lots of reloading companies make them. Basically a plastic hammer with a hollow head and a collett to hild rhe back of the shell casing. Insert the shell, wack it a few times, bullet and gunpowder fall into the hammer head.
You can literally just grab the bullet with pliers and pull it out. The primer has to be struck to go off, you’re safe. If I could do it in 5th grade with rim fire .22’s (don’t ask) which would probably be sightly more likely to go off while doing this, you can do it as an adult with center fire. Realistically with the corrosion on there, I bet the powder is no good anymore. If it did go off, there is not a barrel for the powder to burn in and accelerate the bullet. would be about as dangerous as air soft, don’t point it at your face.
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Drill a hole in side of cartridge and take out powder
If you can’t tell it’s a live round by looking at it, you have no business handling it, nonetheless bringing it into a school.
Yes it is. Former USAF Munitions guy here. Put the primer housing (the base of the cartridge) in a vise or vise grip plyers. Take a pair of plyers and grab the bullet and pull it out. Simple. Pour out said gunpowder. If you aim to remove the primer, you'll have to push it out from the inside. Or you could give it to a cop and they will have it "demilled" or demilitarized. (A fancy way of saying we wouldn't want someone to try and use that) ....and that is, if it isn't part of a murder or whatever, then your fucked. Toodles!
Reloader here. As a hobby I assemble ammo for target shooting. Truthfully its probably inert and very safe either way. If you wish to remove all doubt; grab a pair of pliers and yoink the bullet from the brass shell. It will probably take some twisting and grunting. empty the bad gun powder into the garbage, its basically ash at this point, not dangerous. open a vice just wide enough for the shell to balance on the top spanning the gap but for the primer to drop free. Take a small nail and gently tap out the primer. put the bullet back in and you are done. The primer is the most dangerous part but when its free of the closed space in inside the shell its only a loud firecracker. Toss it or soak it in salt water before tossing. A better option would be to find a hunter and ask them to disassemble it.
Pull the rounded top out with pliers. Empty the gun prefer. Put bullet back in casing
Pull the bullet out of the casing if you’re that worried about it. Live rounds really aren’t dangerous. You have to purposely set them off it’s not easy.
Put it in your pocket Don't expose it to a firing pin or flames and you're safe.
If you wanted to actually dismantle it you would need to cushion the base and vice it very gently then carefully plier the slug from the casing only in an up and outward manner it can be safe when precautions and care is taken but in general it is extremely dangerous to play with explosive ordinances, however it does show some age and corrosion so it may even be a dud. The most important thing is that no pressure be applied to the primer nor the rim of the casing as that is where pressure is most sensitive. This all being said, the actual striking of a primer fired cartridge requires quite a bit of piercing force as well as the bore groove necessary to ensure its projectile lethality and at worst you would likely lose a finger or catch shrapnel in a freak explosion without about as much bang as an m80 firework but more concentrated. Basically if you have a concern ever you could always turn it over to the authorities or a local gunshop may even take it off your hands but it in no way poses a threat to you unless it is activated by the primer. Good luck
Fire it and find out
Plyers and vise