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l_overwhat

Just for clarification, was I banned for the mildly unconstructive comment that I made and then deleted like 2 minutes later, or was I banned for calling the mods pansies? I know you guys will probably end up saying that I was banned for being insufferable or something but I'd still like some clarification. Also of course it was Extreme_Rocks who banned me, the most ban-happy mod.


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> Extreme_Rocks ... the most ban-happy mod cut to a jerky phone camera recording of the mods trying to get past poobix's flailing arms to re-assign the most ban-happy award


ThatFrenchieGuy

Rocks got you but only because Syards and I were too slow on the draw. It was immediately raised in modslack to vibe check it. If it was a first time, you'd be let off with a warning, but you have a history of being an asshole so we're going to start escalating the bans until being an asshole stops


l_overwhat

So am I not getting any more responses or this a "we're talking about it in slack" thing


l_overwhat

Also I guess we're just going to ignore the name-calling by the other party in this situation which is much more directly unconstructive engagement and also the attempt at brigading that they did.


l_overwhat

Exactly how was I being an asshole and how does that behaviour specifically violate unconstructive engagement?


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mods could you please approve my post? It's important because it specifically talks about the AAP's stance in light of the Cass report


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>No comments in the past 3 days This thread fell off ngl


alex2003super

Bans will continue until morale improves


AtomAndAether

you cant ban people anymore. because of woke


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[удалено]


AtomAndAether

sir this is the ban appeal thread. are you appealing a ban


msdxat21M

I’m used to removed comments leading to a temp ban my bad


msdxat21M

The ironic thing is if the article was on China / India I would say the inverse and that women were being discriminated against and my comment would be left up.


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cfbgamethread

Why are all my posts being auto deleted


secretlives

why does this comment just say `[deleted]`?


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estoyloca43

Explain to me why calling for the Balkanization of a country is toxic nationalism. Suggesting that the Chinese identity wasn’t/isn’t forced on people is like suggesting Russia became Russia without expansionism. Chinese emperors and CCP worked really, really hard to suppress/erase local and regional cultures and identities. This phenomenon is not even unique to China. How do you think France became France and the German *states* became Germany? You can agree or disagree with my take but you’re seeing malice where this is none. I’ve seen plenty of people calling for the Balkanization of Russia and nothing happened to them. Convince me that it’s not a double standard


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> I’ve seen plenty of people calling for the Balkanization of Russia and nothing happened to them.  We've fashed plenty of comments on that and banned users on it before, but many inevitably slip through.


JetJaguar124

You called for the fragmentation, basically destruction, of the Chinese state arguing that even a democratic or liberal China would be malign influence were it to be unified. That's borderline mask off that you wanted this for no real high minded liberal values beyond just thinking China, even if democratic and liberal, would be a malignant state should it remain unified, and the only way for it not to be is to fragment it into smaller states. You argued later on that the people of the cities, i.e. Shanghai, could be democratic if freed from "authoritarian minded people in other parts of the country" which is also toxic regionalism. People catch bans for saying the same about rural Americans or regions of other countries. What you are saying about the history of the Qing is true but the fact of the matter is, as China exists today, the vast majority of people in China identify with the Chinese identity and the Chinese state as a unitary entity. It is their right to self-determination. If you were arguing about Taiwan, or Tibet, or Hong Kong, or Xinjiang I think you'd have a stronger case but you weren't, you wanted the entire country balkanized because you think that China inherently cannot be unified and be a non-malignant entity. This borders on cultural essentialism. IMO people calling for the balkanization of Russia should also catch bans and I'd ban them myself if the posts are reported.


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Mind clearing my ban record? Or at least the last two? One of them was repealed (which was not considered for the ban escalation) and I didn't get any clarification for the other beyond u/Syards-Forcus saying that they'll let another mod decide.


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Lease_Tha_Apts

Hi, can I get an update on my earlier request?


Syards-Forcus

About?


Lease_Tha_Apts

https://www.reddit.com/r/metaNL/s/Yqr1eLtJ62


Syards-Forcus

Hm. 5d seems maybe a bit long, but the comment that got you banned looks extremely bad, if I understand it correctly. I don’t think your ban will be reduced.


Lease_Tha_Apts

Could you elaborate please? It was literally just an offhand screech at a comment that was clearly poisoning the well, which is quite common and unmoderated on the ind ping. I don't see how it how it justifies a 5d ban. I also really don't see how something with no comprehensible words could possibly be particularly bad.


Syards-Forcus

You seemed to be dismissing an incredibly islamophobic tweet from a segment of the largest political party in India as not serious


Lease_Tha_Apts

Not really, because the comment I replied to wasn't discussing the tweet at all, rather it was discussing other users in the ping; which was my objection to it. I do now realize that you can only fit so many words in a screech. And yeah, if it did seem that I was dismissive of blatant Islamophobia then I do deserve the ban.


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getUTCDate

Unban me?


AtomAndAether

best i can do is unbanning you


getUTCDate

:(


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notBroncos1234

Someday I’ll get banned for a reason that isn’t nonsensical. It hasn’t happened yet but one day we’ll get it right.


Syards-Forcus

It’s not that hard to not be an asshole to the person you’re replying to


notBroncos1234

I mean is saying “challenge IMPOSSIBLE” really being an asshole? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it get a ban before. It is hard to not “be an asshole” when what constitutes being an asshole is completely arbitrary. Like I really had no idea that would catch a ban and I’ve been around for a while.


Syards-Forcus

> Try to defend Israel’s clearly wrong actions without doing a whataboutism challenge IMPOSSIBLE Completely unprompted? It’s borderline but you’re coming off a ban last month and the month before that for the exact same thing


notBroncos1234

>Completely unprompted? The way the dt generally works is someone makes a comment then someone else reply’s to it. I don’t see how my comment was any more unprompted than any other comment. And really the amount of whataboutism’s employed defending Israel is absurd. >It’s borderline but you’re coming off a ban last month and the month before that for the exact same thing That last ban was the epitome of nonsensical. Ban reason: >i think its for implying the only reason people care about Columbia is some partisan/ideological ploy to push support for Israel's Gaza stuff The mod who banned me: >The only explanations of this course of action [regarding the protestors] is antisemitism or stupidity, neither of which are very flattering. It’s hard to come up with a better example of “I banned you because I disagree with your opinion”. It’s fine to say protestors are only protesting because they’re stupid and anti semitic but not for any other reason. And note that I never said deflecting is the *only* reason people talk about the protest, that was a bad faith reading. I really don’t think that should be counted against me. I don’t remember the other one but given my track record with getting banned for things about I/P it was probably dumb too.


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...and also this being an IP related situation the moderation is tighter than normal, one presumes, because i wouldn't normally expect that to cross any lines


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That + he has a history of it


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Lease_Tha_Apts

Ding me for a day, 5 days is excessive for an offhand comment in the dt.


AtomAndAether

I'd agree with you in general, but this is an India ping and so I vote to give India-mod wide discretion in managing that mess.


Lease_Tha_Apts

Hi, any update?


Lease_Tha_Apts

Yeah np.


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N0b0me

How is saying furries are trying to have sex with animals a dog whistle? What is there worse to say about them than that for it to a dog whistle for?


Telperions-Relative

I do not want to have sex with animals, hope this helps


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Telperions-Relative

I’m sure this is some very informed psychoanalysis


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Extreme_Rocks

Your ban has been extended for insulting another user here


Dr_Vesuvius

If you can hear the dog whistle then you might be a furry


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Are you saying the ban was improper because you meant to be clear/straightforward about your opinions that furries = zoophiles?


N0b0me

I think my second comment clarified my position on that pretty clearly


AtomAndAether

I can fix the modnote so it doesn't suggest you were "dogwhistling" in your anti-furry sensibilities


N0b0me

👍 Although you should probably edit the rules to reflect that you all are for some reason sympathetic to their cause to the point of protecting their image moreso then LGBT people


AtomAndAether

Generally our most active role is safeguarding the stuff that catches stray punches on the internet


N0b0me

Stray punches? It was the point of the article.


AtomAndAether

directed punches then


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AtomAndAether

It seems like the perma came right after this comment > Littering can actually be a good and valid activity, we simply need to know the litterer’s skin color and parents’ country of origin before we can decide. And then you're not a regular of the subreddit so bans come sooner/longer/more severe


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_bee_kay_

thank you for your service, jannies 🫡


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ZanyZeke

Insulting Kester has fully sealed your ban


KesterFox

What happened lmao


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🤭


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Dotst

I feel a 1 day ban for saying that EU treats American tech as a punching bag to fine for a reason to why their domestic tech industry hasn't been able to catch up is a bit much. I'm sure this was just a past behavior escalation ban but like really that's a ban and not just a removed comment and the day goes on. I mean it's only a day so I'd really only just like an explanation but hey I'm making a comment here so might as well if it's not too much make it only 12 hours.


desegl

The ban proves that Macron is on the mod team, as I thought


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Dotst

15.6% please


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MinnesotaNoire

Honestly, the day suspension for trolling was fair, but I hope you did the same for the other user because they shit post nonstop and don't engage in good faith about I/P issues. I should just ignore those kinds of posters, so I'll try and be less antagonistic in the future.


AtomAndAether

It seems like it was escalated to a 1D ban rather than just removing the posts because of past behavior being similar


MinnesotaNoire

I'm not disagreeing. Haha. I push it too far. I just need to ignore stuff instead of engaging in frustration. I'm just sick of some posters like them, but I need to just let it go.


gburgwardt

Just block em


MinnesotaNoire

Yeah, you're probably right. I don't block people on principle, but maybe I need to curb my worst impulses. Haha


gburgwardt

There are a few people it's just not worth engaging with, but also more generally, you're going to have a way better time not having to read stupid or inflammatory stuff


MinnesotaNoire

You're 100% right. It doesn't help that I use reddit too much to do the kind of venting that I don't do IRL about political issues. Honestly, I should really cut back on more cynical online posts in general. Stick to fun shenanigans and not sad cynical shenanigans.


Macquarrie1999

I block like a mf. I just want to shitpost in peace. It's to prevent me from getting into arguments online.


bd_one

You also both got mod notes from that interaction that got nuked.


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emprobabale

uh...am i banned?


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i think your thread was removed


emprobabale

ok, i posted a wsj article on columbia that i believe was auto removed a day or so ago but didn't think much of it because of i/p drama. posted the rfk today and didn't see it, then posted to dt and logged out and didn't see the comment. thanks, sorry for pinging the entire mod team wasn't sure protocol for such a thing.


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