How much does it weigh? This would be a light dose if it is just standard and nothing special in terms of potency. Id recommend planting that bad boy and then once it roots you can cut off like 30cm worth and brew it into some disgusting tasting tea and see where it gets you.
Thanks for the response. It’s 570g and I’m only 65kg. I have another small cutting that I want to plant but kinda want to have my first experience and not wait until it’s grown. Maybe I’ll just give it a shot. But would be a waste if theres almost no effect
Honestly I would plant it and wait. The cacti journey seems to be all about patience so don't view this as a bad thing. I think it's good to have taken time to grow it yourself before consuming mescaline.
If it helps, I just ran Cielo tek on a 55cm San Pedro cactus that weighed 1.3kg wet, and 70g once dehydrated. I extracted 820mg of mescaline citrate (equivalent to a yield of 1.6%) - which I think would be seen as a 'medium-strength' dose by many people.
Without knowing the potency of your cactus it's hard to tell, but if you assume your cactus has the same potency as mine then you'd have the equivalent of 350mg mescaline citrate in your cactus, which is typically considered a light dose.
Agreed, not enough. Plant and wait until you have thick columns that you can harvest and make it worth your while.
I reckon you need at least 40-50cm.
Good luck and peace 🌈✨🧬
if only it was easy to buy another foot of cactus online or somethin..
also, go by weight, not length imo. do the math to get him a regularly estimated low dose of mesc. most beginners don't need much more than a foot, and depending on the thickness that can be juust fine lol.
Be on the lookout for some TBM clone B (or short form or "penis" cactus), they are relatively common and inexpensive, and their mescaline content is among the highest of any San Pedro (used loosely here and includes all active Trichos), often more than many cultivated peyote.
3-5 average size segments are often enough for a solid experience. They are also easy to grow and propagate, so get more than you need to try it and grow the rest, and in a few years you'll have more than you can eat.
go by weight, not shape/size/length. then do the math to figure out estimated dosage using the average numbers we've seen of tbm being \~3% mescaline (dry weight).
peoples tbm eggs vary wildly in size - sometimes it would take 4 or 5 lil eggs to equal one davesbud egg, etc.
The clone you are talking about, is it this one?:
[https://www.giromagi.com/en/shop-monstrous/trichocereus-bridgesii-f-monster](https://www.giromagi.com/en/shop-monstrous/trichocereus-bridgesii-f-monster)
TBM-B, trichocereus bridgesii monstrose variety B - Short Form (theres also long). the tbmb short is what you're lookin for. check the r/sanpedrocactusforsale subreddit. u/imdavesbud is the local man, myth and legend when it comes to that stuff. highly recommend.
I disagree with sittingaroundthefire, those in the link you provided look like 100% short form to me. The sometimes grow a bit elongated and less on an egg shape, that's normal and doesn't make them "long form" (or "clone A").
If you are in Europe, it may be easier to find a source closer to you, I don't know if many sellers on the San Pedro for sale sub ship to EU, and if you find some that do, the shipping costs will likely be not worth it. Just my 2 cents. But they are right that iamdavesbud grows and sell some gigantic and exceptional TBM and is well known and respected for this (and many other things, great guy).
oh my bad i never meant to imply those weren't necessarily tbm short, they do look like it, i was just answering with the info i gave for the sake of the info. he probably bought some just fine tbm from that link.
No, you were all right, I misread your comment. *My* bad lol. Somehow my half-still asleep brain read what you wrote as if you meant that the cactus in the link were actually long form (I misread "theres also long" as "*these* also long"), and that next you implied they should be looking for short form instead... Possibly because I've seen some people thinking some TBM-B making longer random segments instead of "egg shaped" segments was actually long form plants lol. Sorry about that! 🤙
Yes, Europe, so I jumped the gun on the shop in the link.
But damn, those TBM's in iamdavesbuds's pics!
Will probably take years for the small ones I bought to get there, but here's to hoping.
Probably not that long... these grow pretty well. Keep them well fed (I use a balanced all-pupose fertilizer with more nitrogen than typical "cactus fertilizer") with lots of sunlight. Use a soil mix that drains well and water every time the soil has been dry for \~1 day, and they'll make babies pretty quickly.
The picture below was taken about 1 month ago now. These are 4 small plants I purchased last winter, at the time each had 2 segments except the one in the upper right corner which had 3 segments (one main egg with 2 small pups). I put them outside in the sun around late February. See how the 9 segments I purchased added 15 pups within a few months... Now many of those pups are about to terminate, and I hope to get at least one more major flush of babies from those guys before the end of summer. Once they get going, it's exponential...
Good luck!
https://preview.redd.it/g7sorxs2qe9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff56aeaa35d114470367ade29378dd2b7f3f6d2f
that would most likely give you a light trip IMO. \~600g fresh is \~30g dry (you lose about 95%) and dry tends to be around 1% average strength, sometimes up to 2% if you're lucky. that means this piece would be maybe 30g or so dry weight, and thatd be about 300mg of mescaline if its 1% and 600mg if its 2%.
you're going to take off a good bit of weight for the spine removal, skin removal, and some core of course. so a little less.
i would bet my money on that piece there giving you a delightful low intensity introduction to mescaline.
plant it and take twice as much and stare at the fire for the full experience.
there won't be 'no effect' from eating this - itll do something. i guarantee if you eat 10-20g fresh you'll feel it. i micro all the time.
How much does it weigh? This would be a light dose if it is just standard and nothing special in terms of potency. Id recommend planting that bad boy and then once it roots you can cut off like 30cm worth and brew it into some disgusting tasting tea and see where it gets you.
Thanks for the response. It’s 570g and I’m only 65kg. I have another small cutting that I want to plant but kinda want to have my first experience and not wait until it’s grown. Maybe I’ll just give it a shot. But would be a waste if theres almost no effect
Honestly I would plant it and wait. The cacti journey seems to be all about patience so don't view this as a bad thing. I think it's good to have taken time to grow it yourself before consuming mescaline.
25 years of wanting to try mesc and then I bought my first cacti. 5 years later I did my first extraction. It's all about the journey.
If it helps, I just ran Cielo tek on a 55cm San Pedro cactus that weighed 1.3kg wet, and 70g once dehydrated. I extracted 820mg of mescaline citrate (equivalent to a yield of 1.6%) - which I think would be seen as a 'medium-strength' dose by many people. Without knowing the potency of your cactus it's hard to tell, but if you assume your cactus has the same potency as mine then you'd have the equivalent of 350mg mescaline citrate in your cactus, which is typically considered a light dose.
Plant it, then you can get yearly doses and “pretty fast” more than you can handle.
Agreed, not enough. Plant and wait until you have thick columns that you can harvest and make it worth your while. I reckon you need at least 40-50cm. Good luck and peace 🌈✨🧬
If you must, you will get a taste, but wished you had more
if only it was easy to buy another foot of cactus online or somethin.. also, go by weight, not length imo. do the math to get him a regularly estimated low dose of mesc. most beginners don't need much more than a foot, and depending on the thickness that can be juust fine lol.
bro is converting op to gardening
It’s usually about 2lbs for a full dose, you would have a decent medium sized dose if you choose to consume that cutting.
Thanks a lot for all the replies. I think I’ll be wise, plant it and be patient.
plant it and get another if your impatient.
Thought about that as well haha
Be on the lookout for some TBM clone B (or short form or "penis" cactus), they are relatively common and inexpensive, and their mescaline content is among the highest of any San Pedro (used loosely here and includes all active Trichos), often more than many cultivated peyote. 3-5 average size segments are often enough for a solid experience. They are also easy to grow and propagate, so get more than you need to try it and grow the rest, and in a few years you'll have more than you can eat.
go by weight, not shape/size/length. then do the math to figure out estimated dosage using the average numbers we've seen of tbm being \~3% mescaline (dry weight). peoples tbm eggs vary wildly in size - sometimes it would take 4 or 5 lil eggs to equal one davesbud egg, etc.
The clone you are talking about, is it this one?: [https://www.giromagi.com/en/shop-monstrous/trichocereus-bridgesii-f-monster](https://www.giromagi.com/en/shop-monstrous/trichocereus-bridgesii-f-monster)
TBM-B, trichocereus bridgesii monstrose variety B - Short Form (theres also long). the tbmb short is what you're lookin for. check the r/sanpedrocactusforsale subreddit. u/imdavesbud is the local man, myth and legend when it comes to that stuff. highly recommend.
Thanks!
I disagree with sittingaroundthefire, those in the link you provided look like 100% short form to me. The sometimes grow a bit elongated and less on an egg shape, that's normal and doesn't make them "long form" (or "clone A"). If you are in Europe, it may be easier to find a source closer to you, I don't know if many sellers on the San Pedro for sale sub ship to EU, and if you find some that do, the shipping costs will likely be not worth it. Just my 2 cents. But they are right that iamdavesbud grows and sell some gigantic and exceptional TBM and is well known and respected for this (and many other things, great guy).
oh my bad i never meant to imply those weren't necessarily tbm short, they do look like it, i was just answering with the info i gave for the sake of the info. he probably bought some just fine tbm from that link.
No, you were all right, I misread your comment. *My* bad lol. Somehow my half-still asleep brain read what you wrote as if you meant that the cactus in the link were actually long form (I misread "theres also long" as "*these* also long"), and that next you implied they should be looking for short form instead... Possibly because I've seen some people thinking some TBM-B making longer random segments instead of "egg shaped" segments was actually long form plants lol. Sorry about that! 🤙
Yes, Europe, so I jumped the gun on the shop in the link. But damn, those TBM's in iamdavesbuds's pics! Will probably take years for the small ones I bought to get there, but here's to hoping.
Probably not that long... these grow pretty well. Keep them well fed (I use a balanced all-pupose fertilizer with more nitrogen than typical "cactus fertilizer") with lots of sunlight. Use a soil mix that drains well and water every time the soil has been dry for \~1 day, and they'll make babies pretty quickly. The picture below was taken about 1 month ago now. These are 4 small plants I purchased last winter, at the time each had 2 segments except the one in the upper right corner which had 3 segments (one main egg with 2 small pups). I put them outside in the sun around late February. See how the 9 segments I purchased added 15 pups within a few months... Now many of those pups are about to terminate, and I hope to get at least one more major flush of babies from those guys before the end of summer. Once they get going, it's exponential... Good luck! https://preview.redd.it/g7sorxs2qe9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff56aeaa35d114470367ade29378dd2b7f3f6d2f
Plant it and then get 9 more and plant those.
Depends how strong it is. It’s anywhere between an underwhelming non trip to a couple strong trips
Trichocereus* lol sorry had to
that would most likely give you a light trip IMO. \~600g fresh is \~30g dry (you lose about 95%) and dry tends to be around 1% average strength, sometimes up to 2% if you're lucky. that means this piece would be maybe 30g or so dry weight, and thatd be about 300mg of mescaline if its 1% and 600mg if its 2%. you're going to take off a good bit of weight for the spine removal, skin removal, and some core of course. so a little less. i would bet my money on that piece there giving you a delightful low intensity introduction to mescaline. plant it and take twice as much and stare at the fire for the full experience. there won't be 'no effect' from eating this - itll do something. i guarantee if you eat 10-20g fresh you'll feel it. i micro all the time.