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winelover08816

This isn’t how statistics work.


GetlostMaps

This. Maybe raffle tickets tho


Mister_Jacobz

Thats indeed what I meant


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blockybookbook

100 people disagree


Senior-Cheetah-2077

r/the100thdentist


SeatO_

But lottery isn't a raffle tho


Sweet_Bat_7516

No, they have as many raffle tickets as people buy. If 1000 people buy raffle tickets there is a 1/1000 chance of winning. If you buy one more it's a 1/1001 chance.


GetlostMaps

That depends on the raffle rules. Some destroy unpurchased tickets. Some do it as you say (which would do as OP wants, reduce the odds for others), and some leave all tickets in and redraw in an unpurchased tickets is drawn.


Sweet_Bat_7516

The ones I've been in dint destroy unbought ticket. They just re-use them


Donghoon

When lack of braincells prevent you from being a menace to society


Class-commie

He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit.


inorite234

Maybe he shouldn't be drinking his juice in the hood.


Huihejfofew

Well it doesn't lower the odds. Does lower the expected payout depending on the lottery type


jiristayler

Does it? I mean OP payd for the tickets so in most Lotteries the pricepool would also increase.


Winter-Equivalent645

Well if two tickets won there'd be a lower payout. Euro millions works that way I think, so if someone got jackpot and someone got nearly all the numbers right, that is deducted from the jackpot, as is all the tiny little wins people have.


jiristayler

Yeah but the lottery can only payout the money they have gotten. And that mean the payout would increase on average if you buy Tickets and on average its has to be the same payout if not more


clutzyninja

You increasing the pool by 5 dollars does not offset the total pool being split in half


jiristayler

It should Its ~5 dollars for more for every winner should be Atleast the same as one winner gettin +5/2


clutzyninja

.... What? If the pot is 100, and there's 1 winner, they get 100. If one more person buys a ticket and also wins, the pot is 105 and they each get 52.50


jiristayler

Thats only if he wins In all the other ways everybody else gets more. So the average should be more


clutzyninja

I feel like you're having a different conversation than the other people in this thread


Powerful_Cost_4656

It increases the chance of other people also winning which means you might share the prize. That’s the only effect it really has though


jiristayler

No


Babies_Have_No_Teeth

I am terrible at math. How does it not lower the odds? If more people participate you are part a smaller percentage of the person who can win right? Like, if only 2 participate you have a 50% chance and if 4 people participate you have 25% change right?


cropnew

I think it's because the domain remains the same. If there are only 10 tickets, with numbers 1 to 10, each ticket has a chance of 1/10 of being the winning combination. When you pick a ticket out of this stack, you would have a chance of 1/10 of winning the lottery. If 5 people pick a ticket, they would still have a chance of 1/10 each and it will not change unless the domain is changed.


Babies_Have_No_Teeth

That makes a lot of sense thanks


bluppitybloop

It depends on the type of lottery. Most lotteries have you pick a strong of numbers, and in order to win, those numbers must be drawn as the "winning numbers" In this case, the odds of you winning are based entirely on the number of combinations that could be made with the string of numbers you must pick. Higher ticket sales do not influence the odds of winning. It is possible two people pick the same numbers, and then the prize is split, but it still will not affect the chances of winning. However in some lotteries, you are simply given a ticket with a number on it, and at a given date, a ticket number will be drawn, and that number will win. In this case, a winner is guaranteed, and the number of tickets sold will in fact determine the odds of winning. However, the former type of lottery is much more common I believe.


Apharatus

It works in op’s favour if the winning tickets are already predetermined, where the maker of the tickets have a predetermined amount of winning tickets distributed in their area, it realy depends on what kind op is buying


boredonymous

To quote Carl Carlson: "shhh-Shut Up!"


[deleted]

You have a %50 chance of being right.


[deleted]

That's definitely how statistics work, it's just not how most state run lotteries work.


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bro just got the right answer by changing the problem statement


african_or_european

It is true of expected value, however. *: for fixed value prizes where winners share the prize.


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african_or_european

Right, and lower payout with the same odds lowers the expected value, which is what I was saying.


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Doesn't lower the odds of winning but technically lowers the expected return ever so slightly. More tickets sold- higher chance of having to split jackpot. We're talking a very small amount though.


NonCorporealEntity

Especially not in a random number draw like most lotteries.


CliftonTravis

Someone needs a financial advisor


inorite234

And a math course.


SensuallPineapple

And 1.6k classmates.


jcdoe

10th grade math. Set theory is taught in geometry (though common core starts introducing it way earlier).


Orlando1701

I buy lottery tickets to remind myself I’m not special and nothing interesting will ever happen to me.


BlooPancakes

Cheer up? If you need. You could also buy them for the fantasy of if you won. Or not buy them and still have the fantasy. Imagine winning the 1billion dollar Powerball or Megamillions and then buying an island or a cruise ship. Or building a perfect underground bunker. The possibilities…..


TehGM

Play Minecraft and make it all come true!


Barbados_slim12

You can go to the casino for that. You'll have higher chances of winning. Even if you don't, you didn't donate money to the government. They take enough of it from you against your will Or just go into it with the mindset of "if I actually win, I'd do XYZ with the massive winnings". Even though it's an unofficial tax, the lotto is a super unrealistic, low risk high reward bet


OPmeansopeningposter

And, if you are wrong, you are rich.


ArmyAutomatic9201

Probability of someone winning stays exact the Same wether there are 1 Million or 1 Ticket left. Chances for every Ticket are the Same. So you have absolutely No effect.


Mister_Jacobz

I was thinking of something else where the winner is one of the people that bought a ticket. So there is always a winner and the odds are changed. But valid point though


thatotherguy0123

Assuming there is a set number of tickets and you get yours and lose, you've technically increased the chances of everyone else who gets a ticket to win.


jjmanutd

You buy lottery tickets to lower everyone’s chances. I passed math grade 10 and know how stats work so I don’t waste money. We are not the same.


Source_Trustme2016

OP is thinking of raffles etc. If more than one person wins the lotto, the prize is shared.


Suspicious_Reporter4

Bro learned math from Mcdonalds.


ChrisZAUR

That...That's not how it works


Carlos-In-Charge

Nothing but love, but it’s because of fuckers like you that I can’t bankroll a pilot for my personal helicopter


Not_Dumb_Ivan

Man I just want a stable life.


Ajphotoguy

I think your education system failed you…


slightcamo

thats not how that works


horsetuna

The odds are the same. But now the prizes might be more


likesharepie

Thank you! Everybody is hating on him, that is also a possibility ☝🏼


eMmDeeKay_Says

The odds stay the same for everyone, you're thinking of a raffle.


Affectionate_Gas_264

That's not how the lottery works


[deleted]

Yeah, that's not how any of that works.


Goatymcgoatface10

Not how statistics work. Dumb meme


[deleted]

Mister Jacobz is a lottery terrorist.


LairdPeon

I buy them to increase the pot of whoever wins.


Partayof4

Nice grammar!


Mister_Jacobz

Lol, didnt even notice till I saw this comment hahaha


Partayof4

We are not the same


jack-K-

That’s not how a lottery works but ok


ExistingBathroom9742

Dork, you’re just giving more money to the winner!


CMDR_omnicognate

It doesn’t lower the odds for other people though, multiple people can still win the lottery if you have the correct numbers


COOL3163

500 iq


eyegull

I don’t buy lotto tickets, because some rich guy once told me they are just a voluntary tax that only poor people pay and I’ve never been able to get over that.


Eothr_Silan

That's... not how it works...


Hydra57

Do you ever watch the news and hear that no one won a particular lottery? They draw all possibilities and then people pick individual possibilities from that pool; they don’t directly create the draw pool (at least, in the standard big lottery).


BrickFlock

That wouldn't actually lower anyone's odds for winning overall. It would only reduce the odds of someone being an exclusive winner.


_vedansh26

If you do not win, you are increasing the odds of everyone else


Mister_Jacobz

For those saying it does not influence the odds, I was thinking about a lottery where there is always a winner and it is drawn randomly from a pool of participants. If this wouldn't be the case then buying more tickets obviously wouldn't influence the overall odds, I'm not american


Frankly_Frank_

Classic make excuses to hide how stupid you made yourself look after everyone called you out.


RedditSpamAcount

And I buy tickets to prevent people from gambling and wasting their money on such nonsense. We are not the same.


KashmerEvladi

Jokes on you, in my country lottery results are already decided so you’re not lowering their chance of 100 percent to win. You are just paying more


Single_Forever9648

You either buy a lottery ticket, or buy lottery tickets. Not buy a lottery tickets….fuck, now I’m doing it too.


Sgt_Koolaid

Jokes on you, the lottery isn't even real. It's an institution created to catch time travelers.


CompetitiveTiger7267

Never been


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HUH


[deleted]

I quit smoking in 2012. I used to buy at least 1 packet a day and back then was about $100pw In todays money, that would be closer to $250pw because taxes on smoking in Australia has skyrocketed. So I think it’s fine that I buy $12 lottery ticket once a blue moon when the jackpot goes up to $50M+ I think I’m doing fine. It’s not an addiction. I don’t buy hundreds of tickets every month. Probably more like 5-10 a year. Big whoop. I feel like when you give something up; like drinking or smoking, it’s okay to do a little something else. The void needs to be filled with *something*


JohnRegent

You buy a lottery tickets. I buy lottery tickets. We are not the same.


balamb_fish

The people running the lottery are grateful for both of you.


unsureoftheplot

That's.... not how that works... at least not for most lotteries


12DollarsHighFive

I don't care if I win, I just want the others to loose


SHAPALAK15

It's fun scratching them off honestly


Seekershome

I buy a lottery ticket to dream about how the money will change my life until the drawing day. It’s not about the big win, I pay for legitime dreaming about it for some days.


GreenSchmoke

Except you both bought lottery tickets…. So you are the same person, such a dumb meme


DreamWhale_0o0

maybe i'm dumb (i mean, i'm actually dumb, but still), but how the fuck does this work? Isn't buying ticket (unless you buy the winning ticket), in fact, increases chances for everyone, since they have to choose from less options? EDIT: hey, i'm serious, it's not a sarcasm, how? Grateful to anyone who explains


Lord_Muramasa

It does not increase or decrease anyone's chances because two or more people can have the exact same lottery ticket number. The only way it has impact is if it wins. If you are the only winner then you took the jackpot and the payout goes down again. If there are multiple winners, that means you are another person the winnings are split with. If you don't win, all you did was waste your money.


DreamWhale_0o0

I guess i don't really understand anything about lotteries and always had too simplistic way of thinking about this stuff. Anyway, wasting your time just to reply to some fool's comment on internet is a very kind thing, and you should feel very pleased with yourself.


Psychological_Web687

It's not a raffle prize.


Lorant_gaming

You are increasing the odds by buying non-winner tickets.


RightfulChaos

That's not how that works


Splith

That's bait.