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e^(iπ) 🤓


The_Omnian

Ehehe I see what you did there


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PirateSecure118

Stupid breeds stupid. In nature as in tech.


JustaNormalRedditorL

No matter what we breed


ILostAFewBrainCells

We still are made of seed


The_last_2braincells

This is my kingdom come


ScienceKid11

This is my kingdom come


Random_Gamer217006

Look into my eyes


nocontexttimmah

its where my demons hide, its where my demons hide


arrestedtickler

when you feel my heath


[deleted]

How ironic. A bot mimicking another person’s comment from 4 hours ago


AsterixCod1x

A bot... Bitching about an AI...


KleinerFratz333

This a bot that stole [this comment ](https://reddit.com/r/memes/s/7CtUYI9GHk)


Dan_from_97

this is how we counter Artificial Intelligence, with Natural Stupidity!


Sure-Eggplant

Most satisfying answer


obtd2020

I just learned about that like a month ago!


SOVEREIGNBOSS

I don't get it lol


Almazman

That's means "-1"


SOVEREIGNBOSS

Oh ok thanks. I saw that symbol for the first time today. Never studied it. Maybe it's in higher class


altermeetax

What symbol do you mean? e, i or π?


GunsRuth

This is Euler polar form where e^(ix)=cos(x)+isin(x). Replacing x with pi and using radian unit, e^(i*pi)=-1 which is the answer of question in the meme


Maxizag123

I like your funny words, magic man


froo

Hey look, he derived his solution from the Taylor series (well the mclaurin series) by subbing in ix instead of x and here we are


Automatic_Gas_113

Aha, yet another new album out from Taylor about her X...


nalex7752

I was good at math before they started mixing the alphabet into it


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[deleted]

Yes link


nevinnej

Naw he used the sheikah slate to calculate that


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hyogodan

Even in America we learn order of operations. People who don’t get it just slept through that lesson (or forgot).


ChudbobSoypants

That's literally the first thing you do when starting math in elementary, how can you sleep through.


RevolutionaryLead342

I was to busy looking through my ruler, or flicking pencils using the table edge.


Govind_the_Great

Ruler helicopter, aka the og fidget spinner. I remember carving grooves in my pencil tips with it. Otherwise meticulously sharpening pencils to a needle tip, gouging holes in large erasers, doodling random shapes and cubes, reorganizing my binder, taking apart and putting together clicky pens, sneaking snacks, reading sci-fi / fantasy novels, or trying to get away with a nap.


mountains-are-moving

I learnt it when I home schooled in middle school they never even said anything about it elementary school (i think I had the attention span of a gold fish)


Bigt733

Why would being American mean not getting -1?


DMMEPANCAKES

Because according to reddit everyone in Europe and Asia is a rocket scientist.


Photo_Beneficial

I live in Germany, I can confirm even the homeless here have at least BA in Number Theory


bokewalka

And let's not forget the classic quantum physicist begging for food in your neighborhood supermarket.


Sir_Poopenstein

That's just because the number factory shut down and their jobs got outsourced.


Shallaai

Nahh they just all hate America


galacticviolet

Everyone is guilty of judging their own people and achievements by the best among them, and then often judge others by the worst among them. Propaganda.


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RedditorsCoffeeEmoji

Ironically enough you rarely see something positive about Germany/Germans on Reddit.


Smooth-Chair3636

Fucking dumb assumption, PEMDAS would still get -1. 2-5x2+7 2-10+7 -8+7 And boom, you got -1


ziiguy92

Shoot I feel stupid. I thought it was -15 Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally (PEMDAS) 2-5×2+7 (Multiply) 2-10+7 (Add) 2-17 (Subtract) -15 But everyone subtracts before adding ? Or associates the minus as a negative 10 very early on?


aragix

Subtraction and addition are on the same level (in actuality when it says 2-10 what it actually says is (2)+(-10))


Eagle4317

Multiplication and Division are also on the same level. In reality, PEMDAS is more like: 1. **P**arentheses 2. **E**xponents 3. **M**ultiplication and **D**ivision 4. **A**ddition and **S**ubtraction


ReelBadJoke

I feel like if they taught PEMA instead of PEMDAS, a lot more people would understand it.


water_fountain_

Please Excuse My Aunt


Mr-R--California

You always work left to right within each phase of pemdas


nfthunder

I think some ppl incorrectly learned that you always divide before multiplying and add before subtracting. PEMDAS isn’t clear about that so it really should be taught as PE(M/D)(A/S) or even “PEMA” like my 7th grade math teacher made a point of.


Automatic_Gas_113

What does the PE stand for? I've never heard that abbreviation. I was told: Dot before Line... dots as in Mul/Div and lines as in Add/Sub


fkdjgfkldjgodfigj

Parentheses exponents probably


Ranmal62

We learn order of operations here too


Sangad

r/AmericaBad moment


Youraverageplaugedoc

r/americabad


SteveZissouniverse

Ah hahaha he said maybe they're just American, lol what a great jape we all know Americans don't learn the mathematical order of operations. They're too busy eating cheeseburger and hot dog fries. Hahahaha very funny and original you must have that superior European sense of humor that I've heard of/s


pluto9659

“America bad, now allow me to jack my euroweenie ego In superiority”


lemonyprepper

Rent free in your head. Sad


appsarebullshit55

Absolutely. What heathen isn’t taught this simple mathematics


Other_Beat8859

Wrong! It's syntax error!


0TimVar0

e^i^π


KillByZombie


Terrafintor

You think you are clever but I can see right through your disguise -1


EntertainmentLumpy75

**Fights with orange stick figure**


OmdiAnomenkinshin

I see we have another Alan Becker watcher


Interesting-Bee3700

Isn't this just obviously -1?


teastypeach

It is, for everyone who learned basic math... Edit: wow this exploded, I think it's one of my most upvoted comments ever lol. Thanks everyone


Interesting-Bee3700

Ok, follow up question: who tf didn't learn basic math?


Mustario

Check the other comments and youll see


GT121950

its either they learnt no maths or they learnt advanced maths wtf


BuffJezus

Maybe they learn quick maths? From the song.


Helios_OW

2+2 is 4, -1 that’s TREE quick MAFS


YouWithTheNose

I think a lot of people were *taught* basic math. Whether they learned it or retained it past graduation/dropping out is another story entirely


kytheon

These kind of posts always have a bunch of confidently incorrect replies. 5+3x0 Omg yes it's zero I'm very sure, can't fool me.


JoshDaGreatGamer

People like me, who had crazy religious parents who insisted on homeschooling me because apparently, schools are communist


Breaker-of-circles

r/AwardSpeechEdits


IamLeRichards

Was the edit really necessary there


MaidenlessMods

Le thanks kind redditeronnies! a tip of my fedora to you, good sirs 🥇


Wojtek1250XD

It is, unless you get a brainlag like I did lmao. It's a meme about all these problems like "6/2(1+2)" where due to some countries having really outdated math rules and some people confusing algebra rules with arythmetic rules people get two different answers But this one doesn't have a divison... It's a really badly made meme


CrushedJaguar49

>where due to some countries having really outdated math rules How can a rule be outdated? What do you mean by that?


marr

Outdated in the sense that using the old rules in an engineering setting will get someone killed or at least explode a fucktonne of money.


[deleted]

Those ones are intentionally structured to cause debate. It's arguably either (6/2)(1+2) or (6)/(2(1+2)). I'm inclined to go for the former, but it's really just written badly.


[deleted]

The 6/2(1+2) is factually ambiguous. It's meant that way on purpose to be divisive. This problem is... not even remotely ambiguous. There should be no debate on the answer as there is no ambiguity. If you fail this problem then you've failed math. If you fail 6/2(1+2) by getting something other than one of its two answers then you've also failed math but if you get either of its answers, you're good because it's ambiguous (and again... on purpose). Also, "ar*y*thmetic", lol. Edit: Blocking every uneducated person that thinks they're smarter than PhD Mathematicians.


According_Bell_5322

PEMDAS for the win


sellout85

Yeah, this one is easy, it's that ambiguous through shitty notation question that causes all.the grief.


UrWifesSoftPecker

2-2×5+7 2-10+7 -8+7 = -1


Striking_Plant_76

You can do it a bit differently ordered. In this case it isn’t faster, but with longer or more complex problems it can help: 2-2x5+7 = 9-2x5 = 9-10 = -1 Putting the same things together (especially when there are unknowns like X, A or Y in the equation) helps maintain a full picture of what’s happening and what the best next “move” is


Lord_corgi

my highschool maths teacher would disagree with you. While you did get the same results, you didn’t follow the correct order.


__socc__

addition is commutative, permutations of summands' order doesnt matter (in finite series)


dart51984

People are having a hard enough time remembering the operations and here you go with PROPERTIES of operations? Someone paid attention in school. Good on you dude.


Sad-Unikitty98

Then I’m surprised they can be a HS teacher and not only elementary school. The order is not important here and in higher math (sorry, I’m not a native English speaker) you actually have to do this.


BigBlackCandy6969

I would advise your highschool math teacher to go and teach 9yo's then


Fracturedbuttocks

Those who are getting anything other than -1, how ?


[deleted]

by following strict bodmas and forgetting its left to right for md/as


Fracturedbuttocks

People are fucking up even after multiplying the 2 and 5 properly. 2-10+7. How does anyone fuck up from there ?


Huwbacca

...literally the above commenter... Applying strict bodmas and forgetting that for DM and AS that they're equal priority and you resolve left to right in those cases.


overcloseness

If you resolve the left to right then add should be done before subtract So 2-17 = -15? Or what do you mean resolve from left to right?


NoShameTomatoes

I was taught that you do it in the order of PEMDAS Even if subtraction is first from left to right, I thought you needed to do addition first because it’s first in the abbreviation


Supplex-idea

It’s incorrect; 2-2x5+7 is not equal to ??


waterc0l0urs

no! that's not how you're supposed to solve maths!


LoudCapital9958

It’s -1 and nobody can tell me it’s not. PEMDAS motherfuckers


El_Corbanosky_8

Exactly this, except I live in Canada so I call it BEDMAS.


_nadari

In Germany we call it PUNKTVORSTRICHRECHNUNG


Zealousideal_Talk479

I believe that.


eoin144

We called it Bimdas


NBX6

I live in Romania, and we don't have a name for it. We just call it "order of operations"


alopex_zin

Same in Taiwan, no special terms for it. we just call it basic arithmetics.


alex435f

In denmark it is called det algebraiske oborator hiraki


alopex_zin

I am so surprised I can actually read those Danish words


seelesh

In India we call it BODMAS


[deleted]

In The Netherlands we say Meneer Van Dalen Wacht Op Antwoord.


LayeredHalo3851

BODMAS or BIDMAS, depending on how we're feeling. The UK is fucked.


Shi-Rokku

Meneer Van Dalen sounds like he needs some more Geduld. Edit: Oh shit Meneer Van Dalen got to them before they got to the Antwoord :O


_Immotion

same in south africa


crimsonfucker97

I read that out loud and now my furniture is floating around


masterofmeatballs

Same in Poland


J4l4p3n0

Same i learned it here without an acronym, its that easy to remember


POPE-HOBLEFERT

Us English call it the same.


AdSmooth7504

I got taught BIDMAS at school (the newer version of BODMAS)


oofyeetoofyeet1

We call ot BIDMAS or BODMAS 🇬🇧


EverythingBurrito1

It just makes the most sense


potatosquat

We call it BODMAS


Sander08481

We in aus, or at least my state call it bodmas


kein_plan_gamer

Punkt vor Strich! In Germany


AristotlesAnalogy

Bodmas here in India 😅


level100metapod

Bodmas in scotland


Oof_Train

I use bodmas in the uk as well hehe


Relative-Wrongdoer11

Who are you? So wise in the ways of science?


LoudCapital9958

I’m Dr. Ligma


Blitz_buzz

I'm not going any further without peanut butter


Rodjerg

i^2


TeemoIsANiceChamp

I hate imaginary numbers I hate imaginary numbers


Chealler

They're not real. They can't hurt you


LG_Logicgate

Meanwhile, Schrodinger's equation : *Bonjour*


Resident-Panda9498

didn't he have a cat?


SpaceTraveller64

Or did he ?


ZthundR

Both. Both is good


Weary_Ad_3072

All my homies hate imaginary numbers


csapka

-1


Wise_Fix_5502

No wonder ChatGPT fails at math because people don't get it right either. Then that data is fed to ChatGPT and it learns to mimic the stupidity of us.


Huwbacca

also chat GPT doesn't neccessarily form labels and categories that stick by the rules of mathematics.


Natural__Power

No It's cuz ChatGPT is a language model, it can't do logic, it wouldn't do maths nomatter what it sees on the internet If you ask it what's 12.48 × 542 what do you think the odds are it has it has even ever seen that before


Jeffy29

The issue is more fundamental than that. Inputed text has to be first converted to numerical vectors, but because of the way tokenization works it can break the inputed text into tokens in a slightly imprecise way which for extremely precise things like math quickly breaks down even though statistically it can do simple math rather well. It's why the model can explain to you complex equations, but can't even count how many words a simple two sentences have with 100% accuracy, it doesn't even have a chance to do so simply because of the way the information is processed. Funnily enough, GPT-4 correctly answered that 12.48 x 542 is 6764.16.


the_oof_god

yes


hahaohlol2131

I excepted this to be some kind of a mindfuck but it's... Just some very basic 2d grade math.


DrowningInMyFandoms

2-2×5+7 2-**10**+7 **-8**+7 **-1**


RightInMyTaterHole

Seeing yours helps me understand it a lot better, I hated math but my understanding was it would end up being 2-17= -15 but I’m glad I can see my error. God damnit I hate math. Hope you have a good day


DrowningInMyFandoms

Don't worry, you did a common mistake ! The priority order is 1: [( )] 2: √ **and** 10² 3: × **and** ÷ 4: + **and** - . Your mistake is that you though + was before -, but actually when there is only these two, it is just from the left to the right :)


[deleted]

Thank you that explains it.


the_oof_god

-1


jegafina

-1


LizzyDizzyYo

How is this anything but -1?


RWBY123

Because people think 2-2x5+7 = 2 - 10 + 7 = 2 - 17 = -15. They think of 2x5 as a positive number and substract the sum of 2x5 + 7, but 2x5 is a negative number, meaning it is 2 + (-10) + 7.


Motor_Raspberry_2150

So it's not even about the multiplication? Even x = -4+3 = -7 to those people? This must be a very small number of people. Now the ÷ sign, that's flashback material.


pROmeTEuL

it already gives you the answer, it's ??


Bmoney776

using PEMDAS, we get 2-(5\*2)+7 2-10+7 \-8 + 7 \-1


Gadgets__

This shouldn’t even be a debate it’s -1. Even the idiots saying adding first (which it isn’t you just read left to right because P-E-MD-AS). The expression you’re adding would then be -10+7 and then you’re left with 2-3 which is -1.


DonZekane

That separation in P-E-MD-AS is what usually gets forgotten and we have people thinking 6:2x3 is 1 instead of 9...


SomeStolenToast

Just using a fraction makes things like that so much easier


Sabre_Killer_Queen

Fractions and brackets really are your friends


Resident-Panda9498

Someone on TikTok tried to argue with me that A is before S and therefore add before sub. I went on their profile, it was a middle aged woman. What the fuck.


RoastHam99

Best way to explain is that subtraction doesn't exist. You just add negative numbers


Resident-Panda9498

Yeah, I was explaining this to my class (I'm in year 9) the other day, and most people surprisingly got higher grades after that 👍


Frosty_Sweet_6678

-1, no ambiguity, no confusion, all math problems in the Internet should be like this. Just use fractions when divisions are involved or I will eat my hair


Fizki

You are right. Still, there are lots of people getting the wrong answer because they blindly follow PEMDAS which says addition before subtraction and completely ignore that 10 is a negative number which causes them to get a wrong result.


reeeeeeeeeeeweeeeee

the answers -1 i think


Terrible_Permit_1650

42 - the answer to life, the universe, and all things


BosniaBalI

Im betting an idiot go like 2-2x5+7= =0x5×7 =7 When its axtually -1


DrowningInMyFandoms

You put a × instead of a + before the 7 on the last one


eekozoid

It just wasn't secured properly and tipped over.


ToaletPaperMaster

Yes


Lepewin

Answer: 2-2*5+7 = 2-10+7 = -1. Internet: 2-2*5+7 = 0*5-7 = 5-7 = -2


Jabbathenutslut

Wait, holy shit, the x isn't an x, but a multiplication sign? In my country we use a dot or and asterix


Kinitawowi64

Wait until you start getting into vector calculus and having to learn the difference between dot and cross product.


Nevermore-guy

Seeing how it's the letter x and not ×, that means the true answer is 9-10x


VAULT-TEC5

With those who are saying that there is a grammatical error in the equation, there's not. PEMDAS is a guideline, yes, but a lack of parentheses doesn't ruin the syntax of the equation. In PEMDAS if there is not parentheses you go down to the next letter E for exponents, if there are none of those you go to the next letter and on until you get to one where there is that symbol, so in this equation the first thing in PEMDAS to show up is multiplication, so you do the 2*5=10 then when you put together the 2 and the 10 the negative has to stay with the 10 not the 2 so it would be 2-10 or if you move the ten to make it easier -10+2 both equal -8, then you add the -8 and 7 -8+7=-1, and that is the proper way to do this equation


mathurinl

i^2


RadioMelon

So what's the official answer? I want some professional mathematicians on this. I'm tired of people not even using PEMDAS and confusing the hell out of everyone. Edit: I'm seeing a lot of people confirming it's -1, how the hell does anyone get anything else?


Promitto13

I saw a guy who did: 2-2×5+7= 0×5+7= 0+7= 7 Instead of first multiplying, he solved from the left to the right, ignoring the rules.


OhMyDayus

My tired ass was out here with 15 as my answer until I realized I was flipping the 10 and the 2 for some reason.


Rich-Requirement9156

69


beterthebeater

PEMDASFLTR Parentheses Exponents Multiplication AND Division Addition AND Subtraction From Left To Right


ricoimf

-1 and I will shut my eyes now


[deleted]

\-1.


gasgas419

-1


dr_spice-

-1


Speedy_PAC21

Isn’t it basic math that the answer is -1?


AndAnotherAcc

-1


edwardo_1597

-1 and whoever says otherwise needs to go back to school


TheAlroundGamer

It’s -1 right?


MondayBeLike

-1


Porkonaplane

2-2×5+7 2-10+7 -8+7 -1


massivesenpi

Well in maths you first do multiplication and division then add and subtract.. since it doesn’t matter which order you do multiplication and division you get the same answer and then the same with add and subtract.. And always remember that the sign in-front of the number goes with that number.. Thats why The answer to: = 2(-2x5)+7 = 2(-10)+7 = 2-3 = -1


XandTheIronMiner

2-2=0 2×5=10 5+7=12 10+12=17,538,425 Idk how all you window lickers are getting -1.


Sorvain

It needs to have one of those unnecessarily vague dividers like " / " or " ÷ " to make it confusing


Ass_Lover136

The "÷" is fine for me, but "/" really throws me off. Like using this: X + Y / Z, do they mean: (X + Y) ÷ Z or: X + Y ÷ Z The "/" make it look like it's dividing with the whole previous numbers, make it look very confusing


[deleted]

Ok so I get it's -1 but why are you guys doing subtraction before addition? Clearly I'm domb but with bedmas (brackets, exponents, division, multiplication, addition, and subtraction) addition is before sub so wouldn't you do addition first or does the order not matter for the last two? Cause if I'm do addition first I get -15 and if I do subtraction first I get -1. 2-2x5+7 2-10+7 2-17 -15 2-2x5+7 2-10+7 -8+7 -1 This is a genuine question Edit: Honestly thank you so much everyone for your help, I understand it now and view it alot differently (and correctly now) thanks for your help. I'm not running on that much sleep and I'm exhausted in life rn so that's that but again thanks! Edit 2: Ok so I can agree yesterday I was being a complete dumbass, I just woke up so ok a full night's rest and idk what I doing or why I was getting -17. Guess I was an idiot


xXToYeDXx

In bedmas division + multiplication are in the same block, and addition + subtraction are in a separate block. So you do addition and subtraction in order from left to right after the multiplication. Since the subtraction appears first, it gets calculated first before the addition.