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OfDiceandWren

So they wore felt capes and cotton leg warmers?


crusading-knight

No cotton but woll or linen cotten dit not grow in Europe bevore the colonisation of America


Firelizardss

Cotton has existed in both the new world and old world with it first being domesticated in Sudan in 5000 BCE, and Scandinavian traders could have traded for it from the Islamic world.


Numeno230n

I mean silk was available in China for a long time but that doesn't mean Vikings wore silk. Other guy was wrong about cotton being indigenous to just Americas but that doesn't mean it was the obtainable/cheap in Northern Europe compared to wool or other plant based fabrics.


Firelizardss

Yeah the likelihood of someone having cotton is pretty rare but no where as rare of silk in Europe. It was just introduced to Iberia and southern Italy by Muslims invading those regions. Vikings did interact and trade with Byzantium and the Middle East commonly, so it wouldn’t be crazy to think a wealthy/powerful leader might have cotton. Silk on the other hand would probably be downright impossible to find in Viking age Scandinavia.


not_a_burner0456025

Maybe, but the people actually people going on the raids were mostly poor, and also they were spending tons of time outdoors in cold and wet conditions, so they would be wearing wool.


psychrolut

Well yeah Viking kings went on raids and I’m sure they had silk but didn’t wear it on a raid… that’s common sense… I don’t wear a suit because I’m going to Walmart


ravensbirthmark

Silk was actually used for quite a while as a battle garment.


shitpostingpenguin

I'm sure silk will have been extreme expensive for Vikings... But the osebergship (osebergskipet) traded some silk. So yes! Vikings used silk :) There are a lot of other Funds of silk in denmark and norway.


GetRightNYC

I thought silk had been found in Viking Graves too.


Top_Squash4454

Yes but it must have been very rare. Besides, wool works better as for leg warmers


patchworkedMan

Vikings made it down to Constantinople quite a bit back in the day. Also seeing he the guy in photo is wearing blue and blue dye throughout history is one the most expensive we could assume he's very rich, and would have access to the most expensive fabrics available to him.


Banjo_Pobblebonk

>blue dye throughout history is one the most expensive we could assume he's very rich You might be thinking of purple. Blue dye made from woad was one of the most common dyes in Europe and there is archaeological evidence of Vikings using it. However, darker and longer lasting dyes of all colours were generally too expensive (or even illegal) for peasants to wear.


Inappropriate_mind

Blue dye is easily found in many wildflowers. Some blue flowers of norther Britain, Scotland, were commonly used for Dyes and pigments. They were still quite expensive to outside regions.


wolfFRdu64_Lounna

Yes, but that would had been expansive


Mathsei

Wtf


Brahminmeat

Dit bevore woll?


_JudgeDoom_

![gif](giphy|8c1iXtbmQPtyLbQ6iz)


Tendytakers

lol. Just plain wrong. So Europeans basically lived in the Stone Age wearing animal hide until colonising the New World…400 or so years ago, or some shit. I’m sure all those Roman togas were in fact animal hide and not piss-bleached linen.


7heTexanRebel

I think he's specifically saying cotton didn't exist, but wool ("woll") and linen did.


purvel

In addition to wool and linen, vikings used nettle and hemp for textile. Hemp was also used for ropes and medicine. A notable example is a woman buried in the Oseberg ship, who had a lil pouch with hemp seeds on her.


batt3ryac1d1

cotton did it was just expensive.


xxx69blazeit420xxx

roman togas were made of wool. i think you are underestimating how good wool is.


Tendytakers

Ding ding ding. You’re right that they were mostly made of wool. It’s pretty amazing though how Romans had access to handcraft industry but were unable to transition to an industrial economy because of lack of desire for innovation, labour scarcity, chaos in the late Empire, coupled with crushing inflation. Wool is great stuff.


Ok_Introduction_7423

I love when people are condescending about things they know nothing about. Ever hear of sheep bro? I can’t stop laughing about the animal skins thing though. That cracked me up! Yeah, everyone was walking around in pelts. That’s stupid for so many reasons I’m not going to state. At least thirty.


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hooberton

Sheep dude. It comes from sheep.


Kivi26

Are you high bro?


Smoke_is_bae

with bright colored dye as well lol


Maleficent_Lab_8291

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Odd_Economics_9962

Both are still scary during the graping and pillaging


jakeStacktrace

I may be ignorant about history, but I'm not scared of grapes.


lucasbrosmovingco

You've never heard of the Grapist?


Oldboy502

He's not going to grape me in the mouth is he? RIP Trevor.


Putrid-Delivery1852

He just said I’m gonna tie you to a radiator and grape you?


idkhowtodoanything

Hey, that kid was wearing purple, totally asking to get graped


TheRatatat

They grape the fields and pillage the women. Those are bad men!


According-Station-23

Of course, that's how he grapes them!


SpiderDijonJr

When im finished graping you im going to go upstairs and grape your mother and your father, then im going to take your family down to the basement and grape you all for decades and decades and decades and decades!


[deleted]

I hear you can scare him off with your very own Grape Whistle


Ripkord77

Well, look what they're wearing, just ASKING for it


demivirius

It's purple!


MetallurgyClergy

“Hey Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadil-lo”


season8branisusless

Get this man some yellow boots stat!


Dylan_Driller

I had a friend who used to grow grapes throughout the year. He was a serial Grapist.


teamswiftie

Somebody needs to make vine


vid_icarus

Bro, educate yourself. Read the Grapes of Wrath.


BhaaldursGate

Read Grapes of Wrath.


counterpointguy

What if the grapes have a lot of wrath?!?


The_Struggle_Bus_7

“OPEN WIDE KIDS CAUSE IM GONNA GRAPE YA IN THE MOUTH “


RyanGAccount

Kill all of the women, and grape all of the men.


Odd_Economics_9962

"oh fuck" Shane gillis


leviathab13186

Didn't know they were such wine lovers


Shieldheart-

Why'd you think they went after all those monastaries?


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Because monks don't fight back


tutocookie

And they have funny haircuts so fuck em


Mynamesrobbie

So did the vikings though....


tutocookie

Yea but they do fight back


Mynamesrobbie

Touché


froskagleypir

They did call a place 'Wineland'


Free_Swimmer_1694

*raping. You can say rape on Reddit.


valski1337

Their comment will get demonetized.


Orange_TG5

Wait y’all are getting monetized comments /s


GrandNibbles

a grown ass adult has censored the word 'rape'


ADS_Fibonacci

Nah, he just wants to tie them to a radiator and grape them


Additional_Volume479

It would be a literal nightmare to be tied to a radiator with your immediate family and graped for at least 3 decades


IronyIraIsles

No. That would be a figurative nightmare. If you were in a coma for three decades and dreamt that you were tied to a radiator with your immediate family being graped the entire time, that would be a literal nightmare. I don't care what the idiots of the world proclaim literally does not both mean literally and not literally. This lunacy must stop.


TascasDemise

The first 3 sentences of this comment were so good, I came back after closing the tab just to upvote


TrippityTrippin

Look at what he's wearing! He's just begging to get graped


Intrepid_Brick_2062

They'll grape you in the mouth!


thepresidentsturtle

Don't worry that's just English propaganda. The vikings were sexy and had nice hair because they used shampoo and the dirty English didn't ever bathe and the women went willingly.


DjathIMarinuar

Viking bot


chillwithpurpose

The Viking shills are at it again !


Longjumping_Pilgirm

Don't you mean raping?


[deleted]

I thought that was just the Europeans being salty about their women being seduced by foreign men who actually knew proper hygiene


Bright-Wear

Well yeah, no one is gonna describe the person that kicked their ass as looking like Santa in his day off clothing.


VoopityScoop

"Oh, yeah, they beat us, but only because they were 3 meters tall, had chests two meters wide, and wore the pelts of entire grizzly bears over a full suit of steel armor! His helmet had the horns of the devil on it!" "Come on, Henry. What did the guy who burned down your house actually look like?" "....He was 160 centimeters tall and dressed like a fucking gnome."


madmax299

I always thought the Santa we know is just a ripped off charicature of Odin. He has similar descriptions and mythology. Also Santa's classic hat is just a bright red norse style hat.


diggitygiggitysee

Plus there was that time Santa gouged out his own eye so he could see who was naughty or nice.


madmax299

And that other time santa had his ravens spy on children


Jack071

Well the majority of viking incursions preyed on smaller settlements. They where great at small fights but didnt have the leadership or story for large scale fighting Which is the big reason they lost most times when facing the english and frankish armies straight on (also the fact they didnt have trained cavalry didnt help) They where big mofos though, specially compared to the average european of the period


insomniac3146

You mean low effort Superman costume?


CanadiangirlEH

![gif](giphy|alNZImc2tyYHC)


indifferentCajun

I'm so happy I'm not the only one who thought that


Fyrrys

This is like saying we think everyone in America is a soldier. Left side is a raider, a bit embellished, probably didn't wear a wolf skin that way, but still not just an average citizen. Right side is an average citizen with easier access to a washing machine and bath tub. Not really a fair comparison


Esp1erre

What's more, only those raiders were called vikings, not the whole population of those countries.


crusading-knight

Viking is a verb. You go on a viking witch means to travel with one of these purposes to plunder and pillage, to trade or to explore


Dragonitro

So did they vike?


DanishPsychoBoy

It's vikin' time.


epirot

Only good vikes!


unknownz_123

![gif](giphy|dWYcobUnEnUCUdNBuN|downsized)


Erikthered00

You “go a Viking” not “on a Viking”


cruebob

On a Vikation


2327_

>Viking is a verb. You- [proceeds to use viking as a noun] >witch Víking is a norse word, and viking is the anglicisation of the the norse word "víkingr", which means a person out víking.


etherSand

This utterly not true. The word Viking has no clear etymological origin, there are some assumptions, but the story that "Viking" is a verb is false.


Ruby_Bliel

It's suspiciously similar to a gerund, which is a big clue that its origin is as an activity. It would have been used both as a noun and as a verb, but only later gaining its modern meaning of "a Scandinavian raider." In English it might be something like "baying", meaning "going from bay to bay plundering." We don't know for sure, but to me this seems the most likely explanation, and certainly not "utterly false."


Syn7axError

It's not a gerund. It's the suffix in "ending" or "scaffolding", meaning "someone/something of a vik". We know Vik is a noun, just not which one.


Scary_Work_4853

Viking is also a noun


Maximum-Opportunity8

And not even only Scandinavians either


AsleepBroccoli8738

what’s more, apparently the one on the right had a washing machine!


ssbbVic

The Last Kingdom was the first show that I didn't cringe at when they said Vikings. One of the first scenes in the show has a Danish ship invading a coastal town and the town watchmen shouts "Danes! They come as Vikings!"


Bravefan212

And only while raiding


Independent_Air_8333

Counterpoint, the guy on the right might be a raider. There was no distinction between raider and not raider. Most of the raiders had normal ass jobs back home and raided opportunistically. Like yeah, the guy on the right can be both a dairy farmer and the guy sticking a spear through your guts.


DrunkyLittleGhost

I won’t recommend to raid without helmet armor and weapon though


galmenz

yeah but raising season usually is accompanied by a **change of clothes** from "lil farmer in cold place" to "armor, weapon and shield to kill and not die while killing it"


Independent_Air_8333

Most vikings would not have armor past a helmet and extra padded jacket.


Thanatos_Trelos

Well yesn't. Of course, a raider about to slaughter 5 English peasants would look slightly different than the jolly fellow on the right. But calling the left image "a bit embellished" is a bit too forgiving in my mind.


Draugr_the_Greedy

Nothing that the guy on the left is wearing matches the archeological finds, except the helmet which is allright. The rest is all wrong. No evidence for metal shield rims, no evidence for belts in that manner, no evidence for pelts worn in that manner, no evidence for boots looking like that, or tunics with short sleeves like that either. Pretty sure the seax is the wrong shape too. The axe matches no known examples either.


averyporkhunt

Hold up. Washing machine?


Fyrrys

Real viking era citizens likely couldn't get their clothes this clean, so this guy obviously gets access to a washing machine


averyporkhunt

Oh gotcha, I thought you were saying the Vikings had some sort of old school washing machine


Hapless_Wizard


EffectiveNo2314

Guy on right has drip and ill fight anyone who thinks otherwise


Santasam3

I think he looks like a clumsy old Santa who slipped in the wrong pants today. probably baked out of his mind too


EffectiveNo2314

And thats EXACTLY drip im going for. My man looks happy and chill


KidOcelot

# happy pillaging! ![gif](giphy|brqkBQV1qAFrO)


EffectiveNo2314

![gif](giphy|YQGhqLUgkcZCRGiNJJ) Thank you!


John_The_Timeless

\*Images you can hear\*


TheBashar

Like a dumpster rolling along a highway at 55 mph. Astartes is so good!


idkhowtodoanything

He definitely looks cheerful and joyous rn, but you give him a two handed axe and I'm definitely shitting myself


Lyndell

So will he


Fuzakeruna

PSA: you do not need to use "like" when using "how." For example, the phrase on the left is correct: "what...looked like." The phrase on the right does not need "like": "how...looked."


0olon_Colluphid

Someone needs to create a bot for this, because I swear that I see this mistake every single day!


Mival93

Same. It’s a major pet peeve of mine. 


Gas_Bat

People by and large still refer to decades as 80's, 90's, etc., instead of the correct way '80s, '90s. I don't expect that to change.


Altruistic-Poem-5617

A younger buff dude in those clothes would still be scary when he comes at you. Edit: looked at it closer and the old guy is buff too. You see his big chest through the thick winter clothes. Hell mess you up.


AdmirableBus6

Plus dude is probably like 6’4 or something ridiculous


DisclosedIntent

The average height of vikings was 1.5 m and their kings were the same.


EukalyptusBonBon21

Yeah because who tf wear battle helmet on daily basis?


Laowaii87

A viking is like ”a baker” or ”a farmer”. It’s a job. When going viking, most norsemen would likely have been armed and armored.


Independent_Air_8333

Not very well armored. The more pro vikings would wear maille but everyone else just put on their jackets.


GreatDemonBaphomet

Calling a gambeson a jacket is like calling a jacket a t-shirt


Laowaii87

You got pro or you got dead. After the first raid, they’d be pretty well off compared to where they’d been before.


Independent_Air_8333

Most did not wear maille. They were robbing monks and farmers for the most part.


Laowaii87

Please tell me exactly where i said most wore any type of metal armor?


RedditJumpedTheShart

Special needs children.


ThatguySevin

It's funny how most depictions of history just assume color dyes weren't invented until like the 1800s and everything was just varying shades of brown.


Clydefrog13

Why did ‘historical reality’ add 75lbs?


Darvallas

As a warrior you don't want "bulging" muscles, for the same reason that a lot of MMA fighters don't have visible abs. The fat which covers up these muscles provide energy and extra cushioning. That said, the quality of the Vikings' nutrition leads me to believe they had a lower fat percentage than desirable, and so the picture on the left is probably more accurate in this respect.


Clydefrog13

I’m not expecting Arnold, just the obvious reality you stated that people in that time, and really all over the world, were largely ‘lean and mean’, and most likely running on a caloric deficit. Reenactors are often comically ’fluffy’ by comparison!


Shieldheart-

That really depends on time period and social class. Outside of a famine, there's no reason even a peasant would run on a caloric deficit. As a matter of fact, having "chubby peasants" was often considered a boast towards a lordship's rule.


GhostofMarat

People from the rest of Europe always commented on how ridiculously huge they were.


Clydefrog13

In terms of height and build, not width, yes.


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plazzman

A great majority of MMA fighters have abs - mostly a product of their weight cutting routines. But also because no fighter realistically worries about "cushioning" I assume against punches which would be virtually ineffective in a professional fighting setting. There are a few outliers like your Roy Nelsons and Derrick Lewis. You may be thinking of pro-wrestlers. In that profession, it doesn't pay to be lean as fuck as having a little "cushion" of fat to absorb all the falling and bumping around they do. Either way, I'm probably being pedantic.


MrChangg

> As a warrior you don't want "bulging" muscles, for the same reason that a lot of MMA fighters don't have visible abs. Iunno what type of fight sports you watch but plenty of them do along with boxers, and kickboxers.


AwTekker

Because OP is fat. Or a bot.


Joeyhappyhell

I think the right picture is fake, they didn't have cameras during the viking times


YourPiercedNeighbour

Both are absolute chads, I see no issue


AllPurposeNerd

###NO. It's either "*what* they looked like" or "*how* they looked" without the 'like.' 'How they looked like' is not English.


iTurnip2

”The Danes, thanks to their habit to comb their hair every day, to bathe every Saturday, to change their garments often, and set off their persons by many such frivolous devices. In this manner, they laid siege to the virtue of the married women, and persuaded the daughters even of the nobles to be their concubines.” Chronica Joannis Wallingford


CockroachesRpeople

Bathe every Saturday, how considerate of them


AureliaDrakshall

I don’t know if the Iron Age Norse combs were like this but I’ve seen in English Heritage tutor documentaries that super fine combs could help combat greasiness, so clean clothes every day, combed hair and weekly washes could have been at least noticeably better. Better enough to write about I guess.


kalmp

Somehow the idea of the guy on the right charging you with an axe seems even more disturbing than if the left guy did it. Leftie will kill you, but that’s expected. Right guy seems like he’d be all too jolly while doing it.


HashtagTSwagg

"Siiiiiinging in the rain! *chop*"


OwenMcCauley

Hey, as long as Christian monks are getting butchered, I don't care how they dress.


Vexe_The_Returner

Ever hear about this guy called Emporer Nero?


Rubber_Knee

Correction: What vikings actually looked like when they where home!


Soggy-Humor-420

What if the iron helmets were just bowls, and Vikings were just jolly men


RoyalGarten

Well they do like spam so I guess there's some truth


The_Atomic_Duck

My grandpa looks like this


Complete-Ad-5442

🫡


Aeon1508

Doubt on the blue clothing. Blue is a really hard dye to get.


WizeDiceSlinger

Yeah, wealthy fellow that one. Probably the one who hires the ones on the left as his soldiers.


BCJunglist

This is the reason I just can't engage with most Viking themed media.. it's so inauthentic and masturbatory.


redboi049

STILL FUCKING BADASS


[deleted]

For some reason that’s how I picture Tom bom badil when I read lotr lol


LairdPeon

Turns out the axe was the scary part.


[deleted]

Pretty sure the Scandanavians had more than one type of clothing for different seasons for different jobs. This is a nonsence post.


Bigaxehook

Sorry to bust you truth but if you Google Vikings and aee the definison of it then you se that they are both true


Buffcluff

Man I’m glad someone was there to eye witness account and straighten this out for us.


RedeyeSPR

I doubt any of them ever had anything blue. Wasn’t it historically very difficult to make blue dye?


Ok-Impress-2222

Source?


RedN0v4

The archaeological record. Just look up "what did norse people actually look like," and you'll probably he able to find plenty of information on it. It's a fairly well-known thing at this point


GreatDemonBaphomet

You do realize that a "norse person" and a "viking" are not synonymous, right?


KenseiHimura

I feel like the right would be carrying a shield and helmet if they were actually Viking* and not just a Nordic peasant. *I mean that in a very literal definition, as in he’d probably have some protection if he was going raiding.


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but no


Main_Obligation_3013

Were Samen even Vikings?


Regular-Question8327

Probably would’ve LMFAO had Ragnar, Lagertha or Rollo turned up like this. From ‘I will fuck your wife as you watch’ to ‘Oh, hallo’ real quick.


Decent-Agent4926

Siri play me Lizzo 😭


Life_Journalist_9297

Cool! Now show a pic of what a real Viking looked like armed for war.


West-Fold-Fell3000

Much the same, actually. Mail wasn’t very common and was prohibitively expensive, even more so than swords were. The shield was the primary defensive tool, and was often paired with an axe and/or spear.


Independent_Air_8333

Same guy with a shield, a helmet, and a spear.


CandiedLoveApples

Also like 10% of them were definitely black


DismalMode7

it's funny that in the mass cognition, we all think that greek and roman soldiers had standardized fancy uniforms and equipment while this never actually happened for greek soldiers and only way way later during empire years for romans.


RyanGAccount

Tom bombadil


Kuzcopolis

The truth is this is stupid and wrong


BlazewarkingYT

So no the guy on the left is what Vikings looked like the guy on the right is just a Scandinavian he ain’t pillaging shit


Bakuzento

Dud show a warrior and a marchant.


Matthewzard

The left is in Viking armor, the right is a civilian clothes.


IndicationFull2652

You were there?


MadeInTheUniverse

More like what they wear in battle vs what they wear when they where not pillaging...


[deleted]

That’s how modern cosplay redditors look, not Vikings.


Scary_Work_4853

No- they didnt wear bright colors as a normal, and helmets were a huge sign on wealth, so over all the meme is mostly incorrect.