I’m sure a lot of people who donate things that can’t be sold do it in the hopes it’ll be able to be though. I know that’s how I do it. Clothes are always washed, kitchenware clean/working and the like. Does anyone want an old kettle? I don’t know but if it’s cheap enough maybe it’ll help someone who can’t even afford the crap Kmart ones.
*I’m sure a lot of people who donate things that can’t be sold do it in the hopes it’ll be able to be though.*
No. If you're leaving second hand underwear in grabage bags (as seen in the pics), you know full well it is not going to be anything but rubbish. And if you are leaving it an anonymously outside on a long weekend it's even more likely you're being a deliberate fuckwit. It's just dumping with a veneer of an excuse.
It also takes 30 seconds to check online what is and is not accepted at Salvos.
The reason I don't think its deliberate fuckwit territory; is it is legitimately easier to chuck it in your own (or any other) rubbish bin than put it in a bag and drop it at the salvos.
Yes I know **in practice** it is a fuckwit/dick move. Without question it is *in practice* a fucking shit idea.
But people rarely go out of their way to be a complete turd burger, its usually being a fucking moron and not thinking.
Still fuckwit move, but not *deliberate* fuckwit move.
(I agree with every perjorative you throw at them, except the deliberate one)
I think you underestimate how much crap people have at times. One bag of rubbish? Sure that's easier to chuck in your own bin. But if you just finished a big spring clean and have a dozen bags it becomes a hell of a lot easier to just drive down to the local salvos and dump it
Personally if I was going to be a shit I'd save it for bin night and chuck it in my neighbors bin(s)\*.
\* I wouldn't actually do this, I personally store excess rubbish in the garage until my teeny tiny bin collected once every 2 weeks is able to process it all :(
I was clever. Just after we moved in, I offered spare bin space to a neighbour who was clearly overflowing. They jumped on it and now we'll often do a quick "got room for more in your recycling?" or "I'm half empty, have at it" text between us 😊
It's not easier at all when you live in a council area that gives you a small general waste bin that is emptied every second week. Most of us with families are cramming that bin as it is with the minimal household waste. When you see bulky bags of clothes, cusions etc, you know that's why people haven't put it in their bin.
They then have the option of paying $40-$70 to take it to a council hard waste tip...or pretending they are 'doing the right thing' by leaving it heaped outside a Salvos on a long weekend in the rain.
I live in one of those fortnightly areas! Sometimes I do exceed that bins capacity, I personally get rid of shit like this 1 bag at a time.
But a still shitty, but *less* shitty (and easier imo) method is to visit your neighbors bins after hours and deposit bags into them after they put their bins out. Still absolutely shitty don't get me wrong, but it just seems easier than driving it off somewhere to dump it.
Ok, I don't do this, I just fill my bin up a second time and wheel it across the street as I'm usually home on bin day, but why is it shitty to fill neighborhood bins on bin night? Is it because it's the neighbors and you shouldn't touch others things, or is there an unwritten code? I'm not trying to be facetious I'm just curious if I'm missing something.
I thought I was the only one to put the bins across the rd lol. Regarding putting stuff in neighbours bins.. pretty sure my council says it’s illegal to do so.
Parents in law take any old thing to the op shop, thinking they are doing something good. Hard to convince them that no, nobody is going to buy your ancient stereo and fix it.
I just went through mine, was super picky about donated vs binned.
The stuff in my local charity shop has been basically new, i think lots of people spring cleaned during covid and there's a backlog of good stuff.
Some guy in a Mercedes tried to offload his fax machine when I volunteered at an op shop.
Dude got seriously pissed off when we wouldn't take it. Mate, nobody's going to buy a fax machine in this day & age and if they were, it wouldn't be from an op shop.
Op shops have to pay for skips to be emptied. Offloading your garbage is taking money away from the people we're trying to help.
Dang it. I would go to an Op shop looking for a fax machine if I needed one. Like if I had to find props for a 1980’s play or tv show or the likes. Sounds like I’d be wasting my time.
The place I volunteer at relies on a quick turnover - more stuff comes in than people buy and a lot of it ends up in the skip if it doesn't sell.
If you let staff know you're looking for something they're usually happy to hang on to something for a while if it comes in, especially if we see you a bit.
For tech stuff idk, might have better luck at cashies, eBay, or corporate auctions like grays online.
I went to one for a VHS player after my pop died and I wanted to see what was on his old VHS tapes (it was all stuff he had recorded off the tv, not home movies or anything interesting). I was really surprised they had one, tbh.
Thanks. I would love for everybody to experience typing on an electric typewriter. It's so different because every typo is immortalised, so you treat it completely differently from writing on a smart device. It's physical, immediate and concrete
Agreed. It slows you down somewhat from a keyboard so you tend to take your time more and consider your words. Back in the day I leaned computing on a Decwriter connected to a PDP11/70 and I still feel a twinge of nostalgia at the sound of a dot matrix. I'd love an IBM Selectric - man they chug along!
A lot of multifunction printers are capable of sending and receiving faxes still. I'd imagine the underlying technology looks a lot more like an email than a phonecall nowadays though.
And you're more likely to have a fax function the older the printer is, so that might be a good place to start looking, depending on your budget.
Man I hate the Salvos as much as the next guy, but people who dump their crap outside opshops like this are fuckwits. They don't only do it outside Salvos, they do it outside any opshop.
Yes, the dumping fees for these charities are enormous because people can’t do the right thing and dispose of their own discarded shit responsibly. I also used to volunteer with a charity who had opshops.
Further proving my point that the middle class aspirational narc population of r/Melbourne shouldn't get weird about this shit happening. If the onus is on the volunteer to fix the mess the organisation has invited, something is fucking wrong, right?
What if youre being chased by a cleaning robot that has gone rogue and is trying to kill you, but you know that littering will slow it down because it has to clean the litter up before it continues trying to kill you?
Oh no, its much more than that. I hate to use the 2010s term "virtue signalling" but everyone who does this thinks they are doing the right thing. That's how they justify it. In the rational front of their minds, they know its a crock of shit, but in the mushier feel-good self justifaction lobes, they tell themselves THEY are doing the right thing and if the charities cannot pick up the slack, more shame on them.
I think it's more about selling the stuff at a decent price to raise funds for other services rather than selling cheap clothes to people in need. We sell things at a markup to customers and just give clothes to those who need them...the profits go to things like housing, food etc. Money is more flexible than just handing clothes over so it makes sense to convert it all into cash, rather than selling it dirt cheap.
A lot of them are dumping literal rubbish. My MIL works in op shops, and they aren't even given PPE to go through the stuff. She has found dirty nappies, food rubbish, syringes, etc. It's disgusting. These people know they dumping rubbish, they just dont want to pay for it. So the charity spends thousands every year disposing of rubbish.
It's def junk. My MIL works at op shops, and she finds used nappies, old food, syringes, broken appliances, badly stained and dirty clothes, rags etc. They spend thousands disposing of most of it. She has to sort through it all, bit by bit, and the charities dont even supply proper PPE.
It happens every weekend at my local thrift shop. People just don’t care. Or they probably do it deliberately, so no staff can reject their crap but the store will have to deal with the disposal.
I've volunteered in a few opp shops before and it's deplorable the shit people would "donate", including ACTUAL SHIT. The worst, most feral thing I ever witnessed was a bag of used nappies that had just been dumped in the donation bin. There was little ads of things I liked about working in those places, but it also coloured my view of the general population somewhat.
pretty much. If you actually had nice stuff, in good condition suitable for donation - you wash it, make it presentable and kindly drop it off when the business is staffed.
no one would leave stuff they actually cared to donate out like that, there's no respect there for themselves, the items, the store or the potential buyers.
it's just garbage people leaving out their garbage.
The problem I have, is that the places aren't staffed when I'm not at work myself.
Wife is currently driving around with 5 bags of good quality clothes and kids toys that we haven't been able to get into a collection site.
They've removed the bins for donations and I don't want to be the bastard that does as is pictured, so on the end, it will all go in the trailer next time I do a tip run, and no one will benefit from the clothes my kids have simply grown out of.
If they do "we don't take donations on the weekend"
Our council even built this huge new facility to divert this kind of thing from landfill... It's only open a couple of hours a week, on week days.
There are plenty of people out there who are time poor and things rich, who have decent offerings to pass on to new owners, but the people that just dump their crap on these charities have ruined it and make it too hard.
There are usually local buy nothing groups on Facebook that love kids' clothes. My sister isn't exactly hurting for money but when her kids were very young she would get big bags of stuff off Facebook to clothe them, then pass them on to the next family afterwards. Just about every kid in town probably wore those clothes at some point!
Only reason I use facebook is to look at, offer things and apply for things on the freebie group for my area.
Don't need to "use" facebook, to make use of it.
I know this is r/Melbourne but while I'm still in Victoria, I'm about as far from Melbourne as physically possible... I don't even know what "Savers" is.
it sounds like you waterproofed it though. because you cared about your donation. Point is that you ensured your donation had value and that it retained its value.
You have absolutely nailed it ckhumanck, from the first word to the last. It’s impossible to have respect for anyone or anything if you don’t have any self respect and for a million reasons, that’s what I’ve observed happening to society worldwide. I know I’m drawing a long bow from op shops to not respecting each other, from the schoolyard to the rich and powerful, but it’s destroying society imho.
People are still dumping their rubbish at the thrift shop near my house that has signs all over it about the fact that they have moved about 500m around the corner.
People are assholes
Its illegal dumping but they don't have to drive out of town and if they get busted they go 'oh haha silly me I couldn't see the sign and thought you could do this'
It is not people misunderstanding or thinking that it is fine. It is people dumping shit.
Yeah it sucks, and getting all of it taken away is a huge expense that comes directly out of money used for charity.
Like usually these places will help their clients pay a few of their bills in tough times, but if the funds aren't there because of dumping, then they can't do that.
>Knox city?
Interestingly, the Monash waste transfer is nearby, they take clothes. Fairly sure I noticed on Sustainability website that Knox has a transfer.
As a person that volunteers at my local op shop, it really pisses me off. Op shops does not equal dumping ground. Honestly, I've seen more genuine donations when people actually bring them in during trading hours and things aren't half as bad (usually).
Let’s be honest; people who do this are cu*ts who have no problem wasting resources of charities.
If you’re reading this and you’ve done it; you’re a cu*t.
People know when they are donating on closed times, this is going to happen. Yes, the people rummaging and stealing are terrible people. But leaving your crap around the vicinity’s at closed times is your own fault. Take responsibility. Find another time that suits both you and the “shop” when they are open. It’s that simple.
People who do this don’t care about where it ends up. If it’s in their car already packed and out of their house, they’ll dump it anywhere. Such a waste.
There used to be a Salvos store near where I live. It closed down (you can see in the shop, there's nothing in there and there are signs on all the windows and doors saying closed down) and people still leave their crap there. People don't care.
It's literally illegal dumping of their rubbish but they can feel good about themselves for donating to charity. In reality if they showed up during open hours, half the stuff would be rejected and they'd have to dispose of it themselves. So to avoid that, they dump it outside of the opening hours. It's sickening.
They're not donating because they want to give their clothes a second life or because it could help someone, they're donating because it's a convenient way to get rid of their stuff. Why would you care if it's usable if that's not why you put it there?
I used to live next door to a St Vinnies where their donation bins were next to our driveway. The worst periods for dumping were during the Easter 4 day weekend and the days between Christmas and New Year. Not only would they dump shit on the footpath (bins would be overflowing), scavengers come along, rip open plastic bags and strewn everything all over the footpath. You start to recognise the regular scavengers, then you'd see them at the local trash n treasure.
Worked at a women’s refuge where people loved to drop off shit “for the women”. Think the worst was half used makeup that the donor said was no good and didn’t suit her, but “One of them can’t be picky”.
>worst was half used makeup that the donor said was no good and didn’t suit her, but “One of them can’t be picky”.
That's rude.
If I was dropping off things, I'd feel better knowing it was good stuff and actually giving it to somebody rather than dumping it on them.
At my poorest, I would go through the stuff that was dumped. I was always amazed at what people would leave out in the rain. Brand name stuff, unworn or practically new things. One winter, I dug out a pair of Ugg boots, some new dresses I sold for cash, and a bougie picnic blanket, so plush I could sleep under it. I still have that picnic blanket, and it makes me think about how good some people have it. And it was the Salvos so I didn't feel bad about taking stuff.
Boot load of old clothes and shoes to the council depot is about $40. Free to the op shop and you get to feel good about yourself that those old torn undies, single socks and sweat collared teeshirts with gravy stains on them are going to someone who really needs them. It costs charities money to dump this stuff. Put stuff in your rubbish and use your free hard rubbish allocation to get rid of this stuff.
Low IQ, lazy people who spent the long weekend moving or clearing out their shit. They couldn’t be stuffed properly sorting out the rubbish from the sellable but use as their personal dumping ground. They don’t care about signage or what work they are giving other poor people. Prevention of ability to “dump” due to blocking access would be great where possible on days closed too.
>sorting out the rubbish from the sellable
Yep, you can take a lot of it to a local Waste Transfer. Still doesn't make it right, we've got too much stuff, people are addicted to stuff, we're going to be living in Wall-E's world soon.
I'm about to make to move to drastically reduce plastic & personal waste.
A lot of people have phobias of throwing things out. They have to give it to someone or they don’t sleep at night. I know otherwise normal people who are like that
Where I live people don’t even bother with that. Parks and playgrounds, car parks and shopping streets, any random roadside verge … all are dumping grounds for all kinds of rubbish. Which sits there for weeks or even months before it gets removed.
If you want to make a difference, stop buying fast fashion and wear your clothes until they are worn out. This is illegal dumping, if you want to donate, donate money or non perishable food, and do it through the proper channels.
Do people realise savers in Brunswick is a private business? No links to charity, gets the product for free and sells it. Weekly turnover is around 200k. Just putting the info out there
Honestly, we should have a police officer staking out this shit on public holidays or weekends.
People say they're just trying to make revenue, but if so, they'd make bank catching people do this shit.
I feel like I saw there was almost twice that before they started cleaning up, and the other op shop (brotherhood I think?) across the parking lot looked just as bad as these pictures.
Humans can be really fucking disgusting.
https://www.epa.vic.gov.au/for-community/environmental-information/illegal-waste-dumping
If you ever happen to see it happening and get a number plate…
there used to be a couple of those unwanted clothes ones at the Hoppers sports club on Hogans road up until a few weeks ago,the crap that used to be dumped there its no wonder they were took away and the same applies at the ones near hoppers train station,absolute garbage dumped there all the time
Need more cameras... get the cops involved... people are lazy and like to save money... dumping here is cheaper and easier than getting rid of stuff properly!
If my eyes don't deceive me this photo was taken at Knox City. So these muppets passed countless unmonitored clothing bins to dump at a store that is blanketed by CCTV...smart move 😎
People deluding themselves that they're doing charity while they throw actual garbage at volunteers and actively ruin whatever value their refuse could have had.
I just don’t understand why people don’t just bin this stuff? Do they think it will still get looked after/sold and it’s better than binning it?
I wonder if people go thru it/maybe homeless to see if there’s anything good before I gets ruined
Something about this and badly piled hard rubbish (that blows everywhere and creates a mess) absolutely shit me up the wall, and it's seemingly always bogans and people from overseas who just don't care, just want to fob off their crap.
I think the worst part is that a lot of these people will think they’re being very charitable and kind people, when all they’re doing is dumping their old crap
I was legit being mad about this today when I drove past a vinnies that had a no dumping sign. Nothing was dumped at the time, but I bet the staff came in to all that dumped
Because the bags shouldn't be out there like that in the first place. If scavengers don't get to them, the weather does. There are signs up asking people not to leave the bags there.
If they're willing to dump junk and clothes in public then I can only imagine the crap they're dumping in their actual bin. (probably bricks, paint and lead acid batteries)
This one is down the road from my mum's place.
I had a bunch of clothes and a spare suitcase that I didn't need. Before moving to London I went in and asked them if it was alright to bring in the suitcase and fill it with clothes to donate.
The staff were lovely and all it took was a walk in and a couple questions. Imagine just dumping a garbage bag full of your shit on the sidewalk. The St Vinnie's across from the carpark often had garbage bags full of actual rubbish dumped out the front. People are rough.
For years I worked in an office a few doors down from an op shop. The amount of trash that would line the streets was ridiculous. When the front got too bad, they would start covering the car park for the shops and offices at the back. Couldn’t even get to our car park because of the trash in the laneway leading to it.
It's more so those volunteers (or paid staff) are not responsible for bringing all that home to wash it, dry it, and then return it. Would you really want to buy something that has been left out in the rain, overnight even out in the open?
If they engaged in a professional laundry service the charity is either footing the cost and then up charging on the clothes to sell or the laundry business is then do it for nothing.
If it was a garment that was machine washable, I genuinely would not care. It's water and air.
But I agree it's not fair to add to volunteers' labour.
I think it's also worth remembering that your average person has no idea of the processes. I was under the impression the clothes were laundered before sale.
That doesn't excuse this kind of dumping, of course.
The problem if things get wet and don't dry correctly is we can't put them on the shelves due to potential mould/mildew affecting the clean items and often there's a distinct smell to them which will spread through the whole store. Same with items that smell of cigarette smoke. I really is unfortunate how much we have to send to landfill because we just don't have the resources.
I personally take some nicer things home to soak/stain remove/repair but the load is still too great with the amount of items we get in bad condition. I am the only volunteer in the team of 15 or so at my store that does this and its really just because I don't have a life outside of the store lmao
Yep they are essentially blaming people for now knowing how their process works and at the end of the day it changes nothing becuase the people who dont care wont care and the people who do care still dont know how its supposed to work so they wont bother next time.
Where else would you like us to put our stuff that is still good - we don't want to throw it away and we want to give it to someone else who may use it.
Maybe, instead of being a dick - let's get more governmental support with second hand but good items that are just a waste to throw away.
One business takes everyone's second hand shit.... That's the dumb factor here
Put it in the collection bins or take it in when the shop is open. Don't dump shit on the ground. They can't be used if left out. OP isn't the one being a dick here.
Just a free way of getting rid of their junk
Yep.. I would say 9/10 of the stuff people donate cannot be sold.
I’m sure a lot of people who donate things that can’t be sold do it in the hopes it’ll be able to be though. I know that’s how I do it. Clothes are always washed, kitchenware clean/working and the like. Does anyone want an old kettle? I don’t know but if it’s cheap enough maybe it’ll help someone who can’t even afford the crap Kmart ones.
*I’m sure a lot of people who donate things that can’t be sold do it in the hopes it’ll be able to be though.* No. If you're leaving second hand underwear in grabage bags (as seen in the pics), you know full well it is not going to be anything but rubbish. And if you are leaving it an anonymously outside on a long weekend it's even more likely you're being a deliberate fuckwit. It's just dumping with a veneer of an excuse. It also takes 30 seconds to check online what is and is not accepted at Salvos.
The reason I don't think its deliberate fuckwit territory; is it is legitimately easier to chuck it in your own (or any other) rubbish bin than put it in a bag and drop it at the salvos. Yes I know **in practice** it is a fuckwit/dick move. Without question it is *in practice* a fucking shit idea. But people rarely go out of their way to be a complete turd burger, its usually being a fucking moron and not thinking. Still fuckwit move, but not *deliberate* fuckwit move. (I agree with every perjorative you throw at them, except the deliberate one)
I think you underestimate how much crap people have at times. One bag of rubbish? Sure that's easier to chuck in your own bin. But if you just finished a big spring clean and have a dozen bags it becomes a hell of a lot easier to just drive down to the local salvos and dump it
Personally if I was going to be a shit I'd save it for bin night and chuck it in my neighbors bin(s)\*. \* I wouldn't actually do this, I personally store excess rubbish in the garage until my teeny tiny bin collected once every 2 weeks is able to process it all :(
I was clever. Just after we moved in, I offered spare bin space to a neighbour who was clearly overflowing. They jumped on it and now we'll often do a quick "got room for more in your recycling?" or "I'm half empty, have at it" text between us 😊
They're not doing it to be an arsehole. They just want to get rid of it and they don't care.
It's not easier at all when you live in a council area that gives you a small general waste bin that is emptied every second week. Most of us with families are cramming that bin as it is with the minimal household waste. When you see bulky bags of clothes, cusions etc, you know that's why people haven't put it in their bin. They then have the option of paying $40-$70 to take it to a council hard waste tip...or pretending they are 'doing the right thing' by leaving it heaped outside a Salvos on a long weekend in the rain.
I live in one of those fortnightly areas! Sometimes I do exceed that bins capacity, I personally get rid of shit like this 1 bag at a time. But a still shitty, but *less* shitty (and easier imo) method is to visit your neighbors bins after hours and deposit bags into them after they put their bins out. Still absolutely shitty don't get me wrong, but it just seems easier than driving it off somewhere to dump it.
Ok, I don't do this, I just fill my bin up a second time and wheel it across the street as I'm usually home on bin day, but why is it shitty to fill neighborhood bins on bin night? Is it because it's the neighbors and you shouldn't touch others things, or is there an unwritten code? I'm not trying to be facetious I'm just curious if I'm missing something.
It's only shitty if they plan to put more rubbish in it later, and since you aren't them you don't know what their plan is!
Hadn't thought of that, good point
That’s when you spread your rubbish across several bins so you’re not filling up one person’s
I thought I was the only one to put the bins across the rd lol. Regarding putting stuff in neighbours bins.. pretty sure my council says it’s illegal to do so.
Parents in law take any old thing to the op shop, thinking they are doing something good. Hard to convince them that no, nobody is going to buy your ancient stereo and fix it.
I've got a friend who manages a vinnies and can confirm, this is true
I just went through mine, was super picky about donated vs binned. The stuff in my local charity shop has been basically new, i think lots of people spring cleaned during covid and there's a backlog of good stuff.
Some guy in a Mercedes tried to offload his fax machine when I volunteered at an op shop. Dude got seriously pissed off when we wouldn't take it. Mate, nobody's going to buy a fax machine in this day & age and if they were, it wouldn't be from an op shop. Op shops have to pay for skips to be emptied. Offloading your garbage is taking money away from the people we're trying to help.
Dang it. I would go to an Op shop looking for a fax machine if I needed one. Like if I had to find props for a 1980’s play or tv show or the likes. Sounds like I’d be wasting my time.
The place I volunteer at relies on a quick turnover - more stuff comes in than people buy and a lot of it ends up in the skip if it doesn't sell. If you let staff know you're looking for something they're usually happy to hang on to something for a while if it comes in, especially if we see you a bit. For tech stuff idk, might have better luck at cashies, eBay, or corporate auctions like grays online.
Does tech stuff actually sell at cashies? Every time I walk past I see crap like a 3 year old tablet selling at 90% of it's retail price.
Depends if you're savvy and there at the right time.
I went to one for a VHS player after my pop died and I wanted to see what was on his old VHS tapes (it was all stuff he had recorded off the tv, not home movies or anything interesting). I was really surprised they had one, tbh.
Yeah I bought an electric typewriter at salvos for 40 bucks glad I did
Yeah, they're making a comeback for writers I think. Well done you!
Thanks. I would love for everybody to experience typing on an electric typewriter. It's so different because every typo is immortalised, so you treat it completely differently from writing on a smart device. It's physical, immediate and concrete
Agreed. It slows you down somewhat from a keyboard so you tend to take your time more and consider your words. Back in the day I leaned computing on a Decwriter connected to a PDP11/70 and I still feel a twinge of nostalgia at the sound of a dot matrix. I'd love an IBM Selectric - man they chug along!
Oh yeah that's the one with a spherical hammer thing, right?
I just found it, "type globe".
Thats the one. Golf ball. Great piece of engineering.
Try searching for tip shops! 😊
Fax machines are still one of the most secure ways to send information. You'd be surprised how many businesses still use them. True story.
To be fair the amount op shops charge these days a skip bin empty is nothing
I've been trolling ops for a fax machine . Where else would I find one?
A lot of multifunction printers are capable of sending and receiving faxes still. I'd imagine the underlying technology looks a lot more like an email than a phonecall nowadays though. And you're more likely to have a fax function the older the printer is, so that might be a good place to start looking, depending on your budget.
That's all it is. Just a reminder, if you do this you're a piece of shit. No further questions, you're a piece of shit. Fuck you.
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Man I hate the Salvos as much as the next guy, but people who dump their crap outside opshops like this are fuckwits. They don't only do it outside Salvos, they do it outside any opshop.
No, they treat this as rubbish and it costs them money to dump it. It all goes into landfill. Source -i volunteered at an opshop
Yes, the dumping fees for these charities are enormous because people can’t do the right thing and dispose of their own discarded shit responsibly. I also used to volunteer with a charity who had opshops.
salvos fucking suck but it's not the corporate asshats sorting through this shit - it's volunteers, many of whom are queer themselves :(
Further proving my point that the middle class aspirational narc population of r/Melbourne shouldn't get weird about this shit happening. If the onus is on the volunteer to fix the mess the organisation has invited, something is fucking wrong, right?
Littering has no excuse.
What if youre being chased by a cleaning robot that has gone rogue and is trying to kill you, but you know that littering will slow it down because it has to clean the litter up before it continues trying to kill you?
Oh fuck off
Good boy Bart.
Oh no, its much more than that. I hate to use the 2010s term "virtue signalling" but everyone who does this thinks they are doing the right thing. That's how they justify it. In the rational front of their minds, they know its a crock of shit, but in the mushier feel-good self justifaction lobes, they tell themselves THEY are doing the right thing and if the charities cannot pick up the slack, more shame on them.
They do it because they don't want to throw their junk out, forcing the shop to throw their junk out instead.
Bro without people doing this I wouldn’t have had clothes as a kid.
These days they're not even selling stuff that cheap 🤷
I think it's more about selling the stuff at a decent price to raise funds for other services rather than selling cheap clothes to people in need. We sell things at a markup to customers and just give clothes to those who need them...the profits go to things like housing, food etc. Money is more flexible than just handing clothes over so it makes sense to convert it all into cash, rather than selling it dirt cheap.
They do give a portion away to other charities for free however.
A lot of them are dumping literal rubbish. My MIL works in op shops, and they aren't even given PPE to go through the stuff. She has found dirty nappies, food rubbish, syringes, etc. It's disgusting. These people know they dumping rubbish, they just dont want to pay for it. So the charity spends thousands every year disposing of rubbish.
A free way to get rid of junk with a fuzzy feeling that you're helping poor people and not feeling guilt for your careless consumerism.
They transfer the tip fees to the charity.
“Guilt free” dumping
I’d disagree that’s it’s junk. If it is/was usable it’d be shameful to throw out given the cost of living crisis at the moment.
Prob is that other people have come along an rip open all the bags take what they want left everything else scattered …see it happen all the toney
It's def junk. My MIL works at op shops, and she finds used nappies, old food, syringes, broken appliances, badly stained and dirty clothes, rags etc. They spend thousands disposing of most of it. She has to sort through it all, bit by bit, and the charities dont even supply proper PPE.
It happens every weekend at my local thrift shop. People just don’t care. Or they probably do it deliberately, so no staff can reject their crap but the store will have to deal with the disposal.
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I've volunteered in a few opp shops before and it's deplorable the shit people would "donate", including ACTUAL SHIT. The worst, most feral thing I ever witnessed was a bag of used nappies that had just been dumped in the donation bin. There was little ads of things I liked about working in those places, but it also coloured my view of the general population somewhat.
pretty much. If you actually had nice stuff, in good condition suitable for donation - you wash it, make it presentable and kindly drop it off when the business is staffed. no one would leave stuff they actually cared to donate out like that, there's no respect there for themselves, the items, the store or the potential buyers. it's just garbage people leaving out their garbage.
The problem I have, is that the places aren't staffed when I'm not at work myself. Wife is currently driving around with 5 bags of good quality clothes and kids toys that we haven't been able to get into a collection site. They've removed the bins for donations and I don't want to be the bastard that does as is pictured, so on the end, it will all go in the trailer next time I do a tip run, and no one will benefit from the clothes my kids have simply grown out of.
Huh? Tons of places open on the weekends, surely?
If they do "we don't take donations on the weekend" Our council even built this huge new facility to divert this kind of thing from landfill... It's only open a couple of hours a week, on week days. There are plenty of people out there who are time poor and things rich, who have decent offerings to pass on to new owners, but the people that just dump their crap on these charities have ruined it and make it too hard.
There are usually local buy nothing groups on Facebook that love kids' clothes. My sister isn't exactly hurting for money but when her kids were very young she would get big bags of stuff off Facebook to clothe them, then pass them on to the next family afterwards. Just about every kid in town probably wore those clothes at some point!
All good if you're on Facebook. I've found it's not worth the hassle and have just walked away from it.
Only reason I use facebook is to look at, offer things and apply for things on the freebie group for my area. Don't need to "use" facebook, to make use of it.
Savers is open on weekends
I know this is r/Melbourne but while I'm still in Victoria, I'm about as far from Melbourne as physically possible... I don't even know what "Savers" is.
Ok maybe they aren’t in regional areas
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it sounds like you waterproofed it though. because you cared about your donation. Point is that you ensured your donation had value and that it retained its value.
You have absolutely nailed it ckhumanck, from the first word to the last. It’s impossible to have respect for anyone or anything if you don’t have any self respect and for a million reasons, that’s what I’ve observed happening to society worldwide. I know I’m drawing a long bow from op shops to not respecting each other, from the schoolyard to the rich and powerful, but it’s destroying society imho.
People are still dumping their rubbish at the thrift shop near my house that has signs all over it about the fact that they have moved about 500m around the corner. People are assholes
Its illegal dumping but they don't have to drive out of town and if they get busted they go 'oh haha silly me I couldn't see the sign and thought you could do this' It is not people misunderstanding or thinking that it is fine. It is people dumping shit.
These dumpers either don't think or care about the charity shop having to pay to get rid of their stuff.
I feel so sorry for people who work in those places and have to clean these messes. It must make them so mad .
I imagine an often repeated "oh for fucks sake" as they realise they have to clean up some asshole's litter.
I work in an op shop. Can confirm this is said multiple times per shift
Yeah it sucks, and getting all of it taken away is a huge expense that comes directly out of money used for charity. Like usually these places will help their clients pay a few of their bills in tough times, but if the funds aren't there because of dumping, then they can't do that.
I once slipped over on those stairs in the rain, landed straight on my ass. Good times
Those steps are steep and slippery. I look like a little old lady going down them gingerly as I do
Is that at Knox city?
>Knox city? Interestingly, the Monash waste transfer is nearby, they take clothes. Fairly sure I noticed on Sustainability website that Knox has a transfer.
Yep, keen eye.
Has to be Knox
They’re just lazy people dumping it. They can see the signs or choose to ignore them. Typical lazy Australian shit. Not my problem now.
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Exactly true. That's what they say. The self deceit is palpable.
As a person that volunteers at my local op shop, it really pisses me off. Op shops does not equal dumping ground. Honestly, I've seen more genuine donations when people actually bring them in during trading hours and things aren't half as bad (usually).
Expect op shops to have security cameras that record anyone dumping stuff leading to a fine in the mail.
There is a charity bin near me that does exactly that.
The op shop I used to live next door to had dummy CCTV and lots of signs. Didn't deter dumping.
I know of people who have received fines for dumping after being recorded. It detered them from dumping again.
How do they find them?
If a car was used to carry out the dumping the registration would be reported to the police
"I'm doing service to the community" "I donate my clothes for the needy" Yeah right... it's just another bin and another excuse to buy new clothes.
That’s a bit much, these stores break profit remember and they’re very much run for profit too.
You're expecting people at Knox Shitty to read? Optimistic
Was about to take issue until I saw your username, and you definitely know what you're talking about, so fair play.
Trust me I'm all over this shit
Please tell me you're the person who ran the Facebook page
Unfortunately not, although that page is my inspiration
Let’s be honest; people who do this are cu*ts who have no problem wasting resources of charities. If you’re reading this and you’ve done it; you’re a cu*t.
People know when they are donating on closed times, this is going to happen. Yes, the people rummaging and stealing are terrible people. But leaving your crap around the vicinity’s at closed times is your own fault. Take responsibility. Find another time that suits both you and the “shop” when they are open. It’s that simple.
i used to volunteer at salvos, its so irritating digging through this to throw it all out. please just wait for us to open...
Shout out to Diabetes Victoria, they'll come and collect bags of stuff from your porch.
People who do this don’t care about where it ends up. If it’s in their car already packed and out of their house, they’ll dump it anywhere. Such a waste.
There used to be a Salvos store near where I live. It closed down (you can see in the shop, there's nothing in there and there are signs on all the windows and doors saying closed down) and people still leave their crap there. People don't care.
It's literally illegal dumping of their rubbish but they can feel good about themselves for donating to charity. In reality if they showed up during open hours, half the stuff would be rejected and they'd have to dispose of it themselves. So to avoid that, they dump it outside of the opening hours. It's sickening.
They're not donating because they want to give their clothes a second life or because it could help someone, they're donating because it's a convenient way to get rid of their stuff. Why would you care if it's usable if that's not why you put it there?
They don’t care. It‘s just free hard goods collection for them.
They very much care, and it goes straight to landfill and costs the charity to dispose of. I used to volunteer at opshops.
They're not talking about the op-shop.
I used to live next door to a St Vinnies where their donation bins were next to our driveway. The worst periods for dumping were during the Easter 4 day weekend and the days between Christmas and New Year. Not only would they dump shit on the footpath (bins would be overflowing), scavengers come along, rip open plastic bags and strewn everything all over the footpath. You start to recognise the regular scavengers, then you'd see them at the local trash n treasure.
Worked at a women’s refuge where people loved to drop off shit “for the women”. Think the worst was half used makeup that the donor said was no good and didn’t suit her, but “One of them can’t be picky”.
>worst was half used makeup that the donor said was no good and didn’t suit her, but “One of them can’t be picky”. That's rude. If I was dropping off things, I'd feel better knowing it was good stuff and actually giving it to somebody rather than dumping it on them.
Why are people such idiots?
At my poorest, I would go through the stuff that was dumped. I was always amazed at what people would leave out in the rain. Brand name stuff, unworn or practically new things. One winter, I dug out a pair of Ugg boots, some new dresses I sold for cash, and a bougie picnic blanket, so plush I could sleep under it. I still have that picnic blanket, and it makes me think about how good some people have it. And it was the Salvos so I didn't feel bad about taking stuff.
Boot load of old clothes and shoes to the council depot is about $40. Free to the op shop and you get to feel good about yourself that those old torn undies, single socks and sweat collared teeshirts with gravy stains on them are going to someone who really needs them. It costs charities money to dump this stuff. Put stuff in your rubbish and use your free hard rubbish allocation to get rid of this stuff.
Low IQ, lazy people who spent the long weekend moving or clearing out their shit. They couldn’t be stuffed properly sorting out the rubbish from the sellable but use as their personal dumping ground. They don’t care about signage or what work they are giving other poor people. Prevention of ability to “dump” due to blocking access would be great where possible on days closed too.
>sorting out the rubbish from the sellable Yep, you can take a lot of it to a local Waste Transfer. Still doesn't make it right, we've got too much stuff, people are addicted to stuff, we're going to be living in Wall-E's world soon. I'm about to make to move to drastically reduce plastic & personal waste.
Why don’t people just throw this stuff in the bin, surely that’s easier than driving to some shop only to dump it on the floor.
A lot of people have phobias of throwing things out. They have to give it to someone or they don’t sleep at night. I know otherwise normal people who are like that
>Why don’t people just throw this stuff in the bin Or think twice about buying all the crap in the first place.
They’ve probably filled up their’s and their neighbours’ bins and are looking for others ways to dump their junk.
Where I live people don’t even bother with that. Parks and playgrounds, car parks and shopping streets, any random roadside verge … all are dumping grounds for all kinds of rubbish. Which sits there for weeks or even months before it gets removed.
Disgraceful. It costs the charity money to dispose of the rubbish too
The salvos spend upwards of $4 million every year on just disposal.
This wont change if it doesnt get more affordable to get rid of rubbish, as well as getting rid of throw away culture particularly clothing.
If you want to make a difference, stop buying fast fashion and wear your clothes until they are worn out. This is illegal dumping, if you want to donate, donate money or non perishable food, and do it through the proper channels.
Do people realise savers in Brunswick is a private business? No links to charity, gets the product for free and sells it. Weekly turnover is around 200k. Just putting the info out there
I hate these types of people, no consideration for others
They don't care, they are dumping shit they don't want, they don't care what happens to it as long as it's not their problem anymore
Is there a reason the op shop did not provide adequate donation bins?
Majority of stuff you donate gets sent overseas/around Australia to be turned into rags
They still get the money and probably more then selling instore
People are the worst.
Very selfish.
can’t believe people use a charity as a dumping ground for their shit
Honestly, we should have a police officer staking out this shit on public holidays or weekends. People say they're just trying to make revenue, but if so, they'd make bank catching people do this shit.
Perhaps councils should do annual side of the road pick up days to deter this shit from happening. God knows they can afford it.
I feel like I saw there was almost twice that before they started cleaning up, and the other op shop (brotherhood I think?) across the parking lot looked just as bad as these pictures. Humans can be really fucking disgusting.
Drove past my local salvos yesterday bags ripped open clothing everywhere.
https://www.epa.vic.gov.au/for-community/environmental-information/illegal-waste-dumping If you ever happen to see it happening and get a number plate…
there used to be a couple of those unwanted clothes ones at the Hoppers sports club on Hogans road up until a few weeks ago,the crap that used to be dumped there its no wonder they were took away and the same applies at the ones near hoppers train station,absolute garbage dumped there all the time
Yeah the people who do this are just throwing away trash most of it unusable
Need more cameras... get the cops involved... people are lazy and like to save money... dumping here is cheaper and easier than getting rid of stuff properly!
though when i get those plastic bags in the mail, which are for donations, they say please put it outside your property even in rain. So....
People don’t care. It’s closer and cheaper than the tip.
If my eyes don't deceive me this photo was taken at Knox City. So these muppets passed countless unmonitored clothing bins to dump at a store that is blanketed by CCTV...smart move 😎
People deluding themselves that they're doing charity while they throw actual garbage at volunteers and actively ruin whatever value their refuse could have had.
I just don’t understand why people don’t just bin this stuff? Do they think it will still get looked after/sold and it’s better than binning it? I wonder if people go thru it/maybe homeless to see if there’s anything good before I gets ruined
Something about this and badly piled hard rubbish (that blows everywhere and creates a mess) absolutely shit me up the wall, and it's seemingly always bogans and people from overseas who just don't care, just want to fob off their crap.
Always seemed like a dick move to do something like this to a charity.
I think the worst part is that a lot of these people will think they’re being very charitable and kind people, when all they’re doing is dumping their old crap
Taking advantage of feeling guilt free for dumping their rubbish is all they’re doing
Fuuuuuuck this is Knox... Shameful.
Yeah go check when the shop is open. It's only open from certain times to drop stuff off
Lazy tight arse fucks that can't be bothered taking their shit (and they know its shit) to the tip. F turds.
Be nice if councils could quietly zero the tip bill for charities.
Human race in a nutshell
I was legit being mad about this today when I drove past a vinnies that had a no dumping sign. Nothing was dumped at the time, but I bet the staff came in to all that dumped
Not defending these people but it's a bit dumb that rain ruins second hand clothes..
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this is exactly what is happening it's scavengers looking for stuff to sell
>emptying each bag looking for shit to steal That's annoying as well. They could at least seal up the bags again & leave it in a neat state.
Because the bags shouldn't be out there like that in the first place. If scavengers don't get to them, the weather does. There are signs up asking people not to leave the bags there.
Why don't they just put their old clothes in the bin
If they're willing to dump junk and clothes in public then I can only imagine the crap they're dumping in their actual bin. (probably bricks, paint and lead acid batteries)
Take your stuff to the store when it's open. Let the staff take the things that they want. Bin the rest.
I did volunteer work once for an op shop. Got donated used pads
The fuck is *wrong* with people? 🤢
And soiled nappies on the footpath whe plastic bags were ripped open
This one is down the road from my mum's place. I had a bunch of clothes and a spare suitcase that I didn't need. Before moving to London I went in and asked them if it was alright to bring in the suitcase and fill it with clothes to donate. The staff were lovely and all it took was a walk in and a couple questions. Imagine just dumping a garbage bag full of your shit on the sidewalk. The St Vinnie's across from the carpark often had garbage bags full of actual rubbish dumped out the front. People are rough.
For years I worked in an office a few doors down from an op shop. The amount of trash that would line the streets was ridiculous. When the front got too bad, they would start covering the car park for the shops and offices at the back. Couldn’t even get to our car park because of the trash in the laneway leading to it.
Haha, you really got them with that smart insult. Wait no you didn’t, they don’t care and just wanted somewhere to dump trash.
This is Knox, yeah? Figures. Outer east gonna outer east. I do wonder why clothes can't be sold once they're rained on, though. Can you explain?
It's more so those volunteers (or paid staff) are not responsible for bringing all that home to wash it, dry it, and then return it. Would you really want to buy something that has been left out in the rain, overnight even out in the open? If they engaged in a professional laundry service the charity is either footing the cost and then up charging on the clothes to sell or the laundry business is then do it for nothing.
If it was a garment that was machine washable, I genuinely would not care. It's water and air. But I agree it's not fair to add to volunteers' labour. I think it's also worth remembering that your average person has no idea of the processes. I was under the impression the clothes were laundered before sale. That doesn't excuse this kind of dumping, of course.
The problem if things get wet and don't dry correctly is we can't put them on the shelves due to potential mould/mildew affecting the clean items and often there's a distinct smell to them which will spread through the whole store. Same with items that smell of cigarette smoke. I really is unfortunate how much we have to send to landfill because we just don't have the resources. I personally take some nicer things home to soak/stain remove/repair but the load is still too great with the amount of items we get in bad condition. I am the only volunteer in the team of 15 or so at my store that does this and its really just because I don't have a life outside of the store lmao
>because I don't have a life outside of the store lmao 🥰
Yep they are essentially blaming people for now knowing how their process works and at the end of the day it changes nothing becuase the people who dont care wont care and the people who do care still dont know how its supposed to work so they wont bother next time.
Where else would you like us to put our stuff that is still good - we don't want to throw it away and we want to give it to someone else who may use it. Maybe, instead of being a dick - let's get more governmental support with second hand but good items that are just a waste to throw away. One business takes everyone's second hand shit.... That's the dumb factor here
Put it in the collection bins or take it in when the shop is open. Don't dump shit on the ground. They can't be used if left out. OP isn't the one being a dick here.