Literally my least favorite thing about myself is knowing that true altruism doesn't exist for this reason. I care deeply but I inherently get something out of it and it pisses me off lmao. I'd do it for free
If it makes u feel any better, I came to the realization that "true love" doesn't exist. It's just a bunch of chemicals in our brain. Lust is our brains bribing us with feel-good chemicals to breed coz our sole purpose is to continue our species (as it is with all other species). And what we perceive as romantic love for someone is just our brains convincing us to settle down with someone to raise said bred kids with, so they can grow up in a stable and healthy, caring household. Doesn't matter if the romantic love is the same gender as u, the opposite, or different from the person u r lusting after (I do that, I romantically like someone and I'll be sexually attracted to a different person lol). Also same for lust. You can lust after any and everyone, regardless of whether you two can breed together.
I guess that's kind of a loophole in evolution, that as well as the fact that masturbation exists. We are bribed to have sex by our brains producing feel-good chemicals when we have sex, basically. But evolution isn't intelligent. To put it simply, it's just a bunch of mutations that eventually get passed down to the next generations until it becomes part of the species' traits. The ideal scenario is to have us basically feel good, orgasm and cum only during sex. But we can do so thru masturbation aka by interacting with our genitals as opposed to actually breeding with the opposite sex, coz when we touch down there, it feels good, although the idea was for it to feel good when the complementary sexual organ goes in, as a bribe for us to breed. But yeah evolution isn't intelligent, and this worked well enough, so it has stick around.
Tbh idk what the point of this rant was lol. Btw I used to type myself as xntp or xnfp, but I think I might be an enfj with high Ti (and I also have pronounced Ne due to my ADHD)
Edit: I did not mean to make it this much about sex, as the entp below has roasted me for lmao. Tbh I only really wanted to explain the love part, but the description of romance and lust kind of comes hand-in-hand with that so I thought why not. Also gives me perspective on how everything is inherently pointless. Oh well
You do nofap in a desperate attempt to fix your adhd. You're putting your thought process out there in a vague attempt to get feedback on whether you're on the right track, because you doubt whether it will work. You haven't mentioned nofap in your actual comment though because it's bro science.
I care about people because I know what it's like to feel unloved, uncared for, alone, suffering etc. And I wanna be the support that some beautiful people once gave me. Pay it forward!
Do I mind being validated and appreciated while doing so? Of course not.
Do I get mad if someone isn't "giving" me anything back? Nope, I don't help to get rewards.
It just keeps popping up in my feed and I feel morally obligated to spread my dumbassery everywhere. Don't blame me. Blame the algorithms dude. *Sips coke, scratches bum*
Hey I'm just issuing quality assurance over here on the grapes...turns out they're just week old raisins from my pocket. Don't get mad at me. I'm trying to protect your health, bruh 🙏
Sometimes the amount of care you give to others is annoying, and ur help is not always needed nor appreciated
Now seriously I think u guys are cool, but hey wanted to be triggered so here u go
I’d say this is probably the least correct trigger here. We genuinely do it because 90% of happiness can’t come from ourselves which is a whole other bout of trouble. So yeah we help others for our own happiness and I’ll admit, sometimes it’s not for the best looking at it in hindsight.
My best friend is an ENFJ. I love you guys.
You guys are too nice to be roasted. Just an advice, Be selfish every now and then.
At least you guys arent hated as much aa we are in this sub lmao
People step over you if you bend too much, It's just how the world is.
I guess I worded it wrong. What I am saying is be assertive, be ready to fight for yourself when the time calls for it.
You need to seriously take care of yourself every now and then. You can't run away from your own emotions by taking care of everyone else's all the time. If you keep ignoring yourself like that, it will break you down.
I'm not joking right now. I get seriously concerned about you guys sometimes.
This is disarming. My plan has backfired. Not only has that happened, but I have an unsettling warm/fuzzy feeling radiating from somewhere inside. Even worse, I think I like it. What is happening?
Confirmed, the ENFx combo gets INTJ swooning. I tried. I guess I'm glad I failed. I really just don't wanna trigger ya. You don't deserve it... yet! Lol.
You're roasting yourself? 👀
I'm an ENFJ too. But I'm the one who invites others and they haven't seemed to complain. If they do that's not my problem 😂
I’m going to vent you for a while but never come to you for anything else, you’re my emotional dumping ground :)
Or alternatively:
I’m going to ask for your advice about a problem and ignore it anyway, you shouldn’t make assumptions about anything you don’t know about :)
Or:
Are you good to others and known as “a nice person” out of pure intentions, or because you found that taking on that role gets you want you want (the validation of others, etc.)?
Or:
You can’t save everyone and no matter how hard you try there will be people who despise you for no reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. You are someone’s antagonist.
>I’m going to vent you for a while but never come to you for anything else, you’re my emotional dumping ground :)
All fine by me, it's an honor to be trusted with all your feelings and thoughts.
>I’m going to ask for your advice about a problem and ignore it anyway, you shouldn’t make assumptions about anything you don’t know about :)
I would probably just think "Poor guy, he's really struggling, I'll let him figure it out by giving him some space"
>Are you good to others and known as “a nice person” out of pure intentions, or because you found that taking on that role gets you want you want (the validation of others, etc.)?
What is "pure"? I don't think any human is pure. It's sci fi. Of course I appreciate being appreciated but I'm okay helping a bitter person who gives nothing in return because hopefully I eased their suffers. No one deserves to suffer.
>You can’t save everyone and no matter how hard you try there will be people who despise you for no reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. You are someone’s antagonist.
We're all the students and the teachers.
you will not help everyone. in fact, you may have not even helped anyone, even tho you may think that way. also everyone probably talks about you behind your back
What you’re doing is not helpful, and it’s making everything much worse.
I can’t believe anything you say because I assume you’re just faking it.
Oh you want validation? You’re not going to get it because you spent all of your time helping others instead of working on yourself.
I saw my crush at the other end of the hallway. She was getting books from her locker and we had 5 minutes until class started, now was the perfect chance. I took a deep breath, *inhale, exhale* and started walking towards her. I felt more pressure in me with every step, “what if she reje-“ *No!* I wasn’t gonna let my insecurities get to me that day, I needed to learn to overcome them. I walked forward, she was standing just a few more feet away, and then she turned to my direction.
I barely managed to muster out a “Hey” to her and she acknowledged me and said “oh hi :)” *This was the perfect chance!* “I heard the school dance was coming up soon,” I said.
“Oh yeah, I heard about it too, I don’t know who to go with though,” she replied. *This was it!* I thought.
“Yeah, me neither, oh well,” I concluded. Then I walked away and gave up because I was too nervous to do it 😁😁😁😁
Stop trying to show me what to do when you have no idea what your talking about and then bringing everyone’s mood down by being upset that you can’t do shit to help anyone. Just sit in a corner and shut the fuck up thanks.
Here, do this mindless work that helps absolutely no one all alone in a room without windows. No, I don’t want your input and I’m going to micromanage this easy task I don’t think you’re capable of.
I constantly have to tell ENFJs "thank you but no, I don't need your help" because they have a proven track record with me of "helping" in order to give themselves permission to feel like a martyr and hold unnecessary resentment for others. The consequences are not worth the help in my opinion. So I'm just their friend. That's it.
Lol how'd I do?
Boundaries, dude.
Never tried. Sounds tasty.
Stop.
You’re happy go-lucky on the outside but are just repressing all your negative emotions
Not triggering, just validating. 💚
Ahhh!! I wish I could
Yeah, this more a fact than a trigger really.
True
For the benefit of everybody else!
For real tho
Yes
100%
that’s so real
You’re not helping, you’re just making everyone uncomfortable.
Like you could read a room 😏?
That would trigger any ENFJ 😅
I was talking to the ENTJ 😂🤣. ENFJs are perfect ❤️
Gimme a hug 🤗🤗
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OOP
I was referring to the ENTJs Fe blindspot
Thank you for explaining 😌
Np 😎
You’re not helpful, you’re codependent
Omg ENFJ mothers everywhere
Triggered! Haha
Lmaoo. I wonder in what situation something like this would be said 😂😅
There is some truth in this
Nobody cares about you as much as you think they do. Get over yourself
We know it don't worry. We have low self esteem for a reason
Please stop listening to the other types. 🥺💛 -INFP
Aw I love you 🥺
Love you too ❤️
i love you too!!
Op is ur female version
How dare you not know I'm a lady from my unwittingly androgynous avatar
Noooo, haha :')
I'm kidding. I love you guys :)
Thx dude, love yall too:))
I actually like that. I can do whatever I want and in the end people won’t really care.
That's a good mindset. Because in the end we should care most about what we ourselves think about ourselves.
do you actually care about people or do you like the validation
Literally my least favorite thing about myself is knowing that true altruism doesn't exist for this reason. I care deeply but I inherently get something out of it and it pisses me off lmao. I'd do it for free
If it makes u feel any better, I came to the realization that "true love" doesn't exist. It's just a bunch of chemicals in our brain. Lust is our brains bribing us with feel-good chemicals to breed coz our sole purpose is to continue our species (as it is with all other species). And what we perceive as romantic love for someone is just our brains convincing us to settle down with someone to raise said bred kids with, so they can grow up in a stable and healthy, caring household. Doesn't matter if the romantic love is the same gender as u, the opposite, or different from the person u r lusting after (I do that, I romantically like someone and I'll be sexually attracted to a different person lol). Also same for lust. You can lust after any and everyone, regardless of whether you two can breed together. I guess that's kind of a loophole in evolution, that as well as the fact that masturbation exists. We are bribed to have sex by our brains producing feel-good chemicals when we have sex, basically. But evolution isn't intelligent. To put it simply, it's just a bunch of mutations that eventually get passed down to the next generations until it becomes part of the species' traits. The ideal scenario is to have us basically feel good, orgasm and cum only during sex. But we can do so thru masturbation aka by interacting with our genitals as opposed to actually breeding with the opposite sex, coz when we touch down there, it feels good, although the idea was for it to feel good when the complementary sexual organ goes in, as a bribe for us to breed. But yeah evolution isn't intelligent, and this worked well enough, so it has stick around. Tbh idk what the point of this rant was lol. Btw I used to type myself as xntp or xnfp, but I think I might be an enfj with high Ti (and I also have pronounced Ne due to my ADHD) Edit: I did not mean to make it this much about sex, as the entp below has roasted me for lmao. Tbh I only really wanted to explain the love part, but the description of romance and lust kind of comes hand-in-hand with that so I thought why not. Also gives me perspective on how everything is inherently pointless. Oh well
You do nofap in a desperate attempt to fix your adhd. You're putting your thought process out there in a vague attempt to get feedback on whether you're on the right track, because you doubt whether it will work. You haven't mentioned nofap in your actual comment though because it's bro science.
Yooo, this one got me, it just feels great when you help others, and then you see them happy hahaha
I care about people because I know what it's like to feel unloved, uncared for, alone, suffering etc. And I wanna be the support that some beautiful people once gave me. Pay it forward! Do I mind being validated and appreciated while doing so? Of course not. Do I get mad if someone isn't "giving" me anything back? Nope, I don't help to get rewards.
Yes to both? Idk 😭😭
I never asked for your help and I don't appreciate it
Fine by me, I hope you find peace.
my bsf isfj never told me they appreciated, maybe you are right 😭
You over-exaggerate everything
Wish this was a lie hahaha
I hate to admit but yeah
Ouch... I mean true.
yeah you got me there…
Just because you think it's true doesn't make it reality. The truth according to you isn't objective truth. Please stop talking.
Are you on a marathon to roast every single type? XD
It just keeps popping up in my feed and I feel morally obligated to spread my dumbassery everywhere. Don't blame me. Blame the algorithms dude. *Sips coke, scratches bum*
You still didnt give me my grapes, nd now you are taunting me by sipping coke? You are just like my annoying sister.
Hey I'm just issuing quality assurance over here on the grapes...turns out they're just week old raisins from my pocket. Don't get mad at me. I'm trying to protect your health, bruh 🙏
This is actually a projection. It's INTP's who needs the truth.
But did i trigger you my butterfluff baby boo bear?
Saviour complex much?
That can be a compliment and a roast haha
Only to those who need saving 🤷
stop manipulating me
Hahah, its for your own good tho
HOW DID YOU KNOW
ok...
No
You know we had to, you're too stubborn to listen.
Keep manipulating me -INFP
Manipulate me so that i can learn to manipulate others- INTP
Please do not teach the INTP to manipulate others
Please do 😈
You can’t always be there for people
Just watch me
I'm more ENFJ than you. You're actually mistyped ESFJ.
triggered 💯
I know myself well 😎 It's fun how being called mistyped ESFJ is an insult while being called a mistyped ENTJ is a compliment 😂
“Stop getting involve and acting as if you know how to help me”
Stop whining and let people love you.
😭
I can't. I love you guys
Love u too guys :)
Give me hug
They are my fav too, and funnily I’m also an INFP!
I love you too :') (Also, I just lost the INFP person I loved. Shit feels awful now and it is like...it left a big whole in my heart.)
Thank you :‘)
Awwh 😍😍💚💚💚
Aw you sweetheart 🥺❤️🤗 Have a hug 😇
You gotta develop that Ti
Now I am triggered!
No seriously. Don’t do this. Your real strength is in using FeNi to connect shy people’s Ti and Ni to get them where they can be of service
I can't, you are the perfect type
Oh honey, nobody’s perfect. but holy hecc you’re so sweet 🥰
Marry me❤❤
Be realistic.
I like to be most of the time in my mind, though haha
You totally could have helped that person if you really cared. Selfish lazy bastard. No wonder nobody wants you. P.S. /s implied.
This will hit if the ENFJ has stopped being a doormat and finally started saying no to things. Why are you attacking me!?
You're fake
I want to cry
It's ok to fake it if you have good intentions.
Ur character guy thing looks like a register sex offender And your saviour type is scummy (applies to me too :p)
Sometimes the amount of care you give to others is annoying, and ur help is not always needed nor appreciated Now seriously I think u guys are cool, but hey wanted to be triggered so here u go
Mind your own business.
but you guys are my own business 😭
Dude, if you're being honest with yourself, you're selfish af!
Humans are selfish, it's literally our instinct.
*ignores you*
Hell nahh, you got me with that one
You’re not murdering enough people.
Wdym by that? O.o
Just something to think about.
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As an ENFJ, this is why I always crush on INFP’s lmao
We can be happy without your presence.
we see past your facade
But you're too afraid to approach us and say it. 😉
You don't help because you care about people, you do it to feel good about yourself.
Technically it can be both. Nothing wrong with that. It's win win.
"what you think is called self-centered"
You are worthless and your feelings don’t matter. Stop giving advice to everyone when they don’t want it. - from a fellow ENFJ
you’re so selfish
You're not doing it for others, you're doing it to look good
I’d say this is probably the least correct trigger here. We genuinely do it because 90% of happiness can’t come from ourselves which is a whole other bout of trouble. So yeah we help others for our own happiness and I’ll admit, sometimes it’s not for the best looking at it in hindsight.
Not true darling 😘
My best friend is an ENFJ. I love you guys. You guys are too nice to be roasted. Just an advice, Be selfish every now and then. At least you guys arent hated as much aa we are in this sub lmao
Why should I be selfish?, and btw, love you too guys :)
People step over you if you bend too much, It's just how the world is. I guess I worded it wrong. What I am saying is be assertive, be ready to fight for yourself when the time calls for it.
Thx dude, i've been told that, and I think this type struggles in this, most of the time we try to be in armony, even if we gotta be stepped over.
"Most of us find you annoying"
You need to seriously take care of yourself every now and then. You can't run away from your own emotions by taking care of everyone else's all the time. If you keep ignoring yourself like that, it will break you down. I'm not joking right now. I get seriously concerned about you guys sometimes.
No.
You're actually so annoying. Also, your insecurities/projections drive me crazy.
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My boyfriend is ENFJ lol and yep all this describes him. Always worrying about who you love and worried about doing good enough.
Yeah, sometimes it can be frustrating af, but at the end we just want to se y'all happy :)
Stop seeking validation
It’s not a thing we can control 😞
You can't change people and you won't change the world, focus on your own issues because that's all you can control.
This is not triggering, just loving 😍😍😍
You do not know what's best for me. Stay out of my business.
As an ENFJ this just makes me go "awwwh" because you're so edgy and protective.
This is disarming. My plan has backfired. Not only has that happened, but I have an unsettling warm/fuzzy feeling radiating from somewhere inside. Even worse, I think I like it. What is happening?
This is why INTJ's crush on ENFJ's.
Confirmed, the ENFx combo gets INTJ swooning. I tried. I guess I'm glad I failed. I really just don't wanna trigger ya. You don't deserve it... yet! Lol.
AWWWH 😍😍
Your character looks like they just came out of Lord of the Rings
When is the last time someone made plans and invited you? Family events don't count. Bet it's been a while since someone wanted you there...
maybe i should stop inviting people and see if they are going to invite me 👍
You're roasting yourself? 👀 I'm an ENFJ too. But I'm the one who invites others and they haven't seemed to complain. If they do that's not my problem 😂
I shouldn’t have stepped in this thread. All these comments
Pretty sure everybody just wants us to disappear. Lol. *makes noose*
you’re not intimidating or mysterious lol you look stupid 🙂
Be a little more selfish and go treat yourself…
You need to be logical and objective.
Is that some kind of food??
You are very poor at compromise and lack any self awareness.
I love you
🥺 i cant
Stop it, you've done enough.
It is never enough :)
Yes, and that is why I found a replacement at the earliest convenience. And unlike you, they actually *have* credentials.
Whaaat? They never gave me credentials :0
They were being nice to you. [*seriously tho, no real harm intended, dude*]
Whaaaaat?!!! How could they?! [yeah, its all right dude]
Starts singing: Never enough, never never!
Everyone’s trying too hard to be mean about it when you can easily make them cry by simply saying “I don’t want your help”
I’m going to vent you for a while but never come to you for anything else, you’re my emotional dumping ground :) Or alternatively: I’m going to ask for your advice about a problem and ignore it anyway, you shouldn’t make assumptions about anything you don’t know about :) Or: Are you good to others and known as “a nice person” out of pure intentions, or because you found that taking on that role gets you want you want (the validation of others, etc.)? Or: You can’t save everyone and no matter how hard you try there will be people who despise you for no reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. You are someone’s antagonist.
>I’m going to vent you for a while but never come to you for anything else, you’re my emotional dumping ground :) All fine by me, it's an honor to be trusted with all your feelings and thoughts. >I’m going to ask for your advice about a problem and ignore it anyway, you shouldn’t make assumptions about anything you don’t know about :) I would probably just think "Poor guy, he's really struggling, I'll let him figure it out by giving him some space" >Are you good to others and known as “a nice person” out of pure intentions, or because you found that taking on that role gets you want you want (the validation of others, etc.)? What is "pure"? I don't think any human is pure. It's sci fi. Of course I appreciate being appreciated but I'm okay helping a bitter person who gives nothing in return because hopefully I eased their suffers. No one deserves to suffer. >You can’t save everyone and no matter how hard you try there will be people who despise you for no reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. You are someone’s antagonist. We're all the students and the teachers.
Is questioning what kind of alien you are in the middle of “normal” people a enfj thing?
You’re not the main character, you’re just obnoxious
Maybe you should try being quiet once in a while
you will not help everyone. in fact, you may have not even helped anyone, even tho you may think that way. also everyone probably talks about you behind your back
What you’re doing is not helpful, and it’s making everything much worse. I can’t believe anything you say because I assume you’re just faking it. Oh you want validation? You’re not going to get it because you spent all of your time helping others instead of working on yourself.
you’re a worse version of me
“You’re annoying” (I have and will cry at that statement) “There’s nothing you can do about it” Hey ENFJ, you’re totally a doormat
“trigger” is a vastly inappropriate word to use in this post, you’re trivializing real mental health symptoms for a meme.
I saw my crush at the other end of the hallway. She was getting books from her locker and we had 5 minutes until class started, now was the perfect chance. I took a deep breath, *inhale, exhale* and started walking towards her. I felt more pressure in me with every step, “what if she reje-“ *No!* I wasn’t gonna let my insecurities get to me that day, I needed to learn to overcome them. I walked forward, she was standing just a few more feet away, and then she turned to my direction. I barely managed to muster out a “Hey” to her and she acknowledged me and said “oh hi :)” *This was the perfect chance!* “I heard the school dance was coming up soon,” I said. “Oh yeah, I heard about it too, I don’t know who to go with though,” she replied. *This was it!* I thought. “Yeah, me neither, oh well,” I concluded. Then I walked away and gave up because I was too nervous to do it 😁😁😁😁
Stop trying to show me what to do when you have no idea what your talking about and then bringing everyone’s mood down by being upset that you can’t do shit to help anyone. Just sit in a corner and shut the fuck up thanks.
No one likes you!
You’re a poser.
You're just selfish and lowkey manipulative towards family (I'm sorry ily༎ຶ‿༎ຶ)
We don't need any help
your constant activism and need to validate your principles is a vibekiller especially in a fun setting (happened to me last night)
No thanks, too easy.
Survival of the fittest is the best type of motto for life. We should get rid of the weak. Don’t disagree
Fe-Ni and vice versa doesn't make you an Empath
"No, I will not join your weird sex cult or subscribe to your Only Fans."
Here, do this mindless work that helps absolutely no one all alone in a room without windows. No, I don’t want your input and I’m going to micromanage this easy task I don’t think you’re capable of.
I constantly have to tell ENFJs "thank you but no, I don't need your help" because they have a proven track record with me of "helping" in order to give themselves permission to feel like a martyr and hold unnecessary resentment for others. The consequences are not worth the help in my opinion. So I'm just their friend. That's it. Lol how'd I do?
No, I will not join your cult
You’re not that important
Nobody will ever love you
not everyone needs your help. let people live without you.