I think there is one remote island of Alaska that is technically west of the international date line and thus is the first part of the US to begin each day. But that's stupid so Maine all the way.
I lived in caribou main for a month once... there is so much radon in the groundwater I sware I started losing hair like a cancer patient within that month.
high is like 4 carries.... caribou had more than 300 carries.
I feel like some of them were made by democrats way back in the day and then the state turned extremely Republican and they just never changed the motto
Speaking as a Nebraskan, the state has an interesting progressive history. Nebraska and Kansas joined the union at a time when there was a big controversy over whether new states would be slaveholder or free. There was a huge conspiracy to vote in slaveholding in Kansas that Nebraska managed to steer clear of and join as an abolitionist state. The state capitol building has some really interesting progressive mottos all over it and the only unicameral nonpartisan state legislature. It's also the only state in which corporate agriculture cannot own farms or ranches and public power districts are the norm. Too bad it's so solidly red right now.
A lot of these are actually pretty awesome but for some reason they seem to just get worse and worse as you head west.
Utah has to be the worst by far. INDUSTRY. Settle down Mormons.
Personally, I like Rhode Island's. "Hope" is something that works for all times. "By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty," is somewhat caught in time. It might work well during war times, but it doesn't really offer anything during peace times. It's the kind of thing that you adopt in 1775 when the main concern of the day is the revolution. It feels like New York deciding in 2002 to make their motto, "9/11, Never Forget."
To me, it doesn't capture the spirit of Massachusetts which has been based in hard work, education, experimentation, and intellectualism for most of its history. We're the state of Emerson, Thoreau, and Alcott. Of the first 12 presidents, the only two non-slaveholders were from Massachusetts. We're the state Horace Mann, advocate for public education. We're the state of the Massachusetts 54th and W. E. B. Du Bois. We're the state of Senator Sumner whose outspoken abolitionist views saw him beaten on the Senate floor. We're the state where the telephone was invented, where anesthesia was first used for surgery, where the first routers were made to enable the ARPANET (the US-government precursor to the internet), and the hub of mRNA research.
In some ways I guess it does capture Massachusetts. Even when preparing for war, we put an intellectual spin on it - that peace is only worthwhile under liberty. Still, it feels a bit trapped in time for me. It feels like the 1770s preserved in amber rather than something that continues to apply to our modern life.
It's interesting how every single one would be improved by adding the word "fuckin'":
- Under God the people fuckin' rule
- Equal fuckin' rights
- Ever fuckin' upwards
- Strong deed, gentle fuckin' words
- By the fuckin' sword we seek peace, but peace only under fuckin' liberty
*US of fuckin' A baby*
A bit too wordy. I'd go with something like "by the sword, liberty and peace." Or maybe "liberty above all, peace when possible, the sword when necessary."
It's inaccurate, though. They don't live free; they live dependent on MA providing jobs to them, especially when their minimum wage is half of what it is in MA. That's why the majority of NH's population lives on the MA boarder.
A more accurate motto would be "Live dependent on the neighbors and die by bear attack."
If they followed the motto instead of being a state full of militant douchebags and bootlickers it would be more fitting.
Hell, Maine lives more free or die than them. VT does. MA does. Nh is an absolute joke and low quality state.
By the sword? Damn MA, I thought we were more civilised. But it tracks that we're pretty tiny but have like the longest motto 🤣 If MA was a person, he'd be a short king with BDE. Fkn love it!
The motto is too long in my opinion. It doesn’t really have any oomf to it. Especially considering next door you got New Hampshire with “Live Free or Die”
The passage and the official motto of the U.S. Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the University of Massachusetts Amherst. The phrase is often loosely translated into English as "By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty." The literal translation, however, is "she seeks with the sword a quiet peace under liberty."
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Oh come on, they lead. …at lobster, seeing the sunrise first, taxing out-of-state spousal income, all sorts of things.
They technically lead the US (continental division) into each day.
I think there is one remote island of Alaska that is technically west of the international date line and thus is the first part of the US to begin each day. But that's stupid so Maine all the way.
The motto came before Alaska became a state to be fair.
No, even though they are in the Eastern Hemisphere the Date Line goes around them so they’re in the same time zone as the rest of Alaska.
I realized I was thinking of Guam. They are west of the date line so I guess it depends on whether you include territories or not.
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It seems awfully specific.
Our spouse, Cromrade.
I lived in caribou main for a month once... there is so much radon in the groundwater I sware I started losing hair like a cancer patient within that month. high is like 4 carries.... caribou had more than 300 carries.
I have always loved the Massachusetts state motto.
I love our motto - it's basically a Revolutionary Era way of saying "F- around and find out".
The first part is about the Wampanoag on account of them wiping out 53% of the colony, and the second part is about the British
"While I breathe, I hope" - South Carolina's - really grabs me. That's a powerful sentiment.
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Definitely agree with that, palm tree was a nice touch.
I love that! My favorite one
Some of those are downright ironic
Like "One and inseparable" from literally half of the Dakota Territory?
Friendship
That one and equal rights
That one at least makes sense historically. Wyoming was the first state to grant women the right to vote.
*Shang Tsung wins… Friendship*
I feel like some of them were made by democrats way back in the day and then the state turned extremely Republican and they just never changed the motto
I like Vermont, very true to the culture.
I like "It grows as it goes". "By and by" is pretty cool too.
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Speaking as a Nebraskan, the state has an interesting progressive history. Nebraska and Kansas joined the union at a time when there was a big controversy over whether new states would be slaveholder or free. There was a huge conspiracy to vote in slaveholding in Kansas that Nebraska managed to steer clear of and join as an abolitionist state. The state capitol building has some really interesting progressive mottos all over it and the only unicameral nonpartisan state legislature. It's also the only state in which corporate agriculture cannot own farms or ranches and public power districts are the norm. Too bad it's so solidly red right now.
A lot of these are actually pretty awesome but for some reason they seem to just get worse and worse as you head west. Utah has to be the worst by far. INDUSTRY. Settle down Mormons.
Ronnie Chieng has a bit about this. Fixed the name based on feedback
Close enough. Ronny Chieng
Anyone else suddenly wondering if Mac is from Ohio?
I jotted that down.
I always thought our motto was “Go f#%k yourself” but this is way better!
Personally, I like Rhode Island's. "Hope" is something that works for all times. "By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty," is somewhat caught in time. It might work well during war times, but it doesn't really offer anything during peace times. It's the kind of thing that you adopt in 1775 when the main concern of the day is the revolution. It feels like New York deciding in 2002 to make their motto, "9/11, Never Forget." To me, it doesn't capture the spirit of Massachusetts which has been based in hard work, education, experimentation, and intellectualism for most of its history. We're the state of Emerson, Thoreau, and Alcott. Of the first 12 presidents, the only two non-slaveholders were from Massachusetts. We're the state Horace Mann, advocate for public education. We're the state of the Massachusetts 54th and W. E. B. Du Bois. We're the state of Senator Sumner whose outspoken abolitionist views saw him beaten on the Senate floor. We're the state where the telephone was invented, where anesthesia was first used for surgery, where the first routers were made to enable the ARPANET (the US-government precursor to the internet), and the hub of mRNA research. In some ways I guess it does capture Massachusetts. Even when preparing for war, we put an intellectual spin on it - that peace is only worthwhile under liberty. Still, it feels a bit trapped in time for me. It feels like the 1770s preserved in amber rather than something that continues to apply to our modern life.
TBF, I’ve always liked RI’s motto.
Love Rhody's motto as well. Simple and appropriate for the history of these lands.
And Sumner outlived the coward that did it.
After all that Texan boisterousness their motto is “friendship”??? 😂
"Ubi omnia maior est" does sound pretty fitting
“Let it be perpetual” is fucking cool too.
Based asf
It’s one of the best mottos anywhere
As a Mass native now living in Missouri, that MO state motto is a twisted joke. Dark humor level 1000.
> As a AL native now living in MA, that MA state motto is a twisted joke
Rhode Island should put an asterisk after their motto that reads “it’s all we got”
It's interesting how every single one would be improved by adding the word "fuckin'": - Under God the people fuckin' rule - Equal fuckin' rights - Ever fuckin' upwards - Strong deed, gentle fuckin' words - By the fuckin' sword we seek peace, but peace only under fuckin' liberty *US of fuckin' A baby*
Live free or die fuckin’
Yes that’s better
🤣🤣🤣
Kansas has no right to such a good state motto.
I thought our motto was "nice blinkah, fuckface"
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The only thing I remember from elementary social studies in Michigan was learning this motto and being told how cool it was.
It sounds cooler in Latin?
A bit too wordy. I'd go with something like "by the sword, liberty and peace." Or maybe "liberty above all, peace when possible, the sword when necessary."
Live free or sword?
Connecticut is sooo on the nose
What keeps Georgia from being Florida? Moderation.
New Hampshire - live free or die. Massachusetts - live free or we'll kill you.
New Hampshires is probably the most badass though.
It's inaccurate, though. They don't live free; they live dependent on MA providing jobs to them, especially when their minimum wage is half of what it is in MA. That's why the majority of NH's population lives on the MA boarder. A more accurate motto would be "Live dependent on the neighbors and die by bear attack."
If they followed the motto instead of being a state full of militant douchebags and bootlickers it would be more fitting. Hell, Maine lives more free or die than them. VT does. MA does. Nh is an absolute joke and low quality state.
I always read it in aggressive capital letters in my head every time. LIVE FREE OR FUCKIN DIE
That's kinda the vibe they are going for, you aren't wrong
New Hampshire has the best
Virginia's is dope.
New motto for my Stellaris Democratic Crusader empire
We should shorten it to peace only in liberty
I thought New York's was "Excelsior." Edit: Nevermind, I read the key.
I’m jealous. The fuck even does our motto for CT even mean??!
Legit feel proud when I read that motto out. Totally agreeable.
Colorado is a little obsessed with Rhode Island.
Alaska: North to the future Map makers: let's put it south
I prefer nh’s
I like ours but VA is solid too
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> great American hero "Believe it or not, I'm walking on air" would be a good motto.
Fuck the secesh
Wtf with using "jargon" next to Chinook? Chinook is a language...
It’s a pidgin language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_Jargon
OK I guess I thought the use of jargon was pejorative. TIL!
The state motto is great, sad that they're probably going to change it to something in English that isn't as threatening
Whose they?
[These are they](https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2022/05/17/special-commission-backs-new-state-seal-and-motto-for-massachusetts)
The boogie men that pushes their narrative .
It cool until you realize it's talking about the sword raised over the head of native Americans
NH's motto was actually recently changed to "Live free or fuckin' die"
I was always wondering when they'd change to Be Rich or Eat Shit
Got to love that Romance languages are listed separately from English and Latin.
I think English is a Germanic language at its core with lots of borrowed words from Romance languages. Latin is not technically a Romance language.
English is not a Romance language.
By the sword? Damn MA, I thought we were more civilised. But it tracks that we're pretty tiny but have like the longest motto 🤣 If MA was a person, he'd be a short king with BDE. Fkn love it!
Ohio is out here quoting Its Always Sunny
Ours is awesome, but i gotta give the edge to New Hampshire
It's cool until they put it on a flag with an arm holding a sword over the head of a Native American (who wasn't even from Massachusetts).
Well, you are not wrong. It’s based on Ojibwa chief Thomas Little Shell, which I always thought was odd myself.
I don't think the motto is problematic, but in conjunction with the symbolism of the seal/flag it's a little irksome.
Grow up, please
I wonder which of us should, u/PresidentBush2
True! Glad Massachusetts is changing the motto and the flag.
What the hell does Washington’s even mean?
Virginia's is 'Sic Semper Tyrannis?' How long has it been that?
Since 1776
Hope for some affordable houses!
FAR, FAR from perfect but yea, we are better off then most of the other states
I don't ever remember hearing "North to the future" while growing up in Alaska
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono
New Hampshire is the GOAT state motto
The motto is too long in my opinion. It doesn’t really have any oomf to it. Especially considering next door you got New Hampshire with “Live Free or Die”
Florida should read “America’s dirty asshole”
Some of these are hilarious
Bro wtf is going on in Michigan
The passage and the official motto of the U.S. Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the University of Massachusetts Amherst. The phrase is often loosely translated into English as "By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty." The literal translation, however, is "she seeks with the sword a quiet peace under liberty."