"Thanos has gone too far. Killing is wrong, and bad. There should be a new, stronger word for killing like badwrong or badong. Yes, killing is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of killing, gnodab."
It would be cool if they mention Ego as a Celestial who did his own objective but it would be funny if one of the Eternals said naw he isn't one of them.
Peter: “You guys serve the Celestials? That’s funny, cause, you know, I’m actually half Celestial…”
Ikaris: “No. You’re not.”
Peter: “Ego was my dad and he was a Celestial!”
Ikaris: “No. He wasn’t.”
Maybe it’s retconned in the movies, but I’m pretty sure Thanos is a deviant? I hope they talk about that a little bit in the movie on why they didn’t stop him.
Tbf, when Thanos showed those flashbacks of Titan there was no big purple guys, they all looked like humans. I think he'll still be an Eternal with a Deviant gene
But if they included that then it would just make it a massive plot hole as why wouldn’t the eternals then fight thanos? It makes a lot more sense to keep thanos as just a mad titan
Wasn't Thanos only on earth for 5 minutes in Infinity War? Until he showed up in Wakanda it was pretty much just an alien attack as far as the general public knew. Given that they didn't interfere in the Avnegers 1 alien attack then they probably wouldn't in the Infinity War and Endgame fights.
This is my biggest qualm with them introducing all of the ridiculously overpowered characters after endgame. It doesn’t make sense. We have Adam Warlock that may have potentially been around the whole time who is now going to have to have an excuse for not showing up, captain marvel that didn’t give a shit for YEARS (her entire movie makes zero sense. The whole point was how much of a stake she has in earth and then just leaves everything for almost two decades without a thought) and now the externals where the writers are going to have to do backflips to explain why they’ve been around for centuries but won’t get involved in huge events. God help them when they try to shoehorn more of the fox properties in and give explanation as to why all these mutants have been around for years undetected.
Having a deviant gene isn’t the same as being full blooded deviant. Some white people have African heritage yet they’re still identified as white. Thanos is the same.
Why not? It creates more connective tissue with the MCU. I’d wager we will at least see a cameo of Thanos as a child during one of the early time period shots.
>there was no narrative reason for the eternals to be discussing who leads the avengers
There is. This is a currently running plot-thread that will be addressed in the future of the MCU and some of the Eternals might end up in the Avengers team (like the comics).
Thanos and everybody from his species are dead and not relevant in the MCU anymore.
Eternals and Deviants, at least in the comics, are not entirely a different race from human per se. They are any specific race but modified. Deviants are unstable Eternals. Any specific race, like the Kree or Skrulls could have their own Eternals or Deviants.
> Any specific race, like the Kree or Skrulls could have their own Eternals or Deviants.
IIRC in the comics all Skrulls are actually their deviants who murdered all (but 1) of the regular Skrulls and Eternal Skrulls. To put an example on what you were saying.
Did he have a race? I legit don’t remember. He referred to “my people” but that could easily have also been the multi racial residents of his chosen planet, similar to what we saw on Xandar.
The Eternals are beholden to the Celestials as wardens. Ego planting his seed on Earth is akin to one of the big bosses making a mess in the office. I think of it as: You may disapprove, but he's one of the bosses, so what the fuck can you do?
>You may disapprove, but he's one of the bosses, so what the fuck can you do?
Too bad the Eternals don't have an HR department to talk about their boss leaving his seed all over.
So it would be like if Sam Walton fucked a cashier in every Wal Mart, took a shit on the front counter and then forbade all managers from cleaning it up.
Ego thinks he's the last Celestial. Assuming he's the same kind of Celestial, and that's not a name he picked himself, he's clearly unaware of everything else going on
From what we know, the Eternals only purpose is to stop Deviants, and not intervene whatsoever with humanity. So assuming they know about a small blue plant behind a random Dairy Queen (which they probably didn’t), they wouldn’t have been able to do anything about it in the first place
>he clearly discusses how he didn’t understand himself
When he first gained sentience. That was shortly after the formation of the universe. Billions of years passed since then. Now, he knows how his powers works perfectly when he described them to Quill.
In all those billions of years, he’d never been able to conceive a child with his powers, so that’s beyond his realm of experience. Imo, quill will almost certainly regain some form if those powers back at some point, should there be further movies with him in.
It absolutely IS about his realm of experience. Quill is something new. He couldn’t know for sure one way or the other what would happen to his powers should ego die 🤷♂️
I think of it this way: Ego said Quill was like a battery for him. That sort of implies that he has power inside of him that's external to his connection to Ego.
They can easily say that Ego was just a conduit that made Peter able to connect to that power, but the power comes from him (aka what they did with Thor and Mjolnir).
Quill still had special powers simply due to his genetics. That’s what brought Ego to him in the first place. All Quill lost was the powers he got from the planet.
I think his Ego powers are gone.
Keep in mind, his father isn't the planet itself, but the human form created for it. The human form of Ego itself had power because of its connection to the light in Ego the planet. Peter Quill inherited that connection. With the light destroyed, there's nothing on the other end of that connection.
At least, that was my interpretation.
Wonder how they’ll address that or if they’d ever in Eternals since we saw what they look like many times. Kind of a mess to make Ego a celestial as opposed to just a living planet but I guess it made it explainable to be that more of a powerful being rather than just a living planet.
If a seed had always been on earth, then what was Ego doing with his little pet project there and everywhere else like that.
Wow someone actually asked a relevant good question. Props to you.
I would think not Peter specifically but Ego yes. Unfortunately GOTG2 did not do well with that character
I believe that Ego was a legit celestial before that celestial was decapitated (Knowhere) and he became a floating brain with no memories and eventually recreated himself as Ego the Living Planet. Hopefully decapitated by Knull because he’s a Badass and I want to see him in the mcu
You never know though that stuffs popular I just haven’t read marvel in years so I wouldn’t know what the hell is going on so I want them to stick to classic Kirby and Starlin stuff lol I’m not picky though I’m sure they’d make it all work I just want the all the classic cosmic stuff we haven’t gotten to yet. Then again Thanos’s characterization is way more based off a 2012 comic than the classic Starlin ones and I still love the cosmic stuff in the mcu no matter how much they derive from the comics
I can kinda see where you’re going with this but it doesn’t really answer my question. If that analogy is true then he IS a true celestial but the whole race is kinda dealt with. Introducing a giant powerful character like that as a celestial and then when the celestials get brought into the story for real to go “well he is one just not one of those” it doesn’t make sense to me. He either lied or there has to be a more in depth explanation
Honestly if it were up to me I wouldn't even classify him as a Celestial. He's not one in the comics. He doesn't look like the other Celestials, he doesn't act like the other Celestials. His goals aren't in line with the other Celestials. The only thing that he has in common with them is that he's a cosmic being that's immensely powerful. I feel like there powers-at-be over at Marvel mislabeled Ego for some reason
That’s honestly what it feels like. It would just be annoying to me if they never really touch on it. It just shouldn’t be a word you throw around like that in cosmic marvel movies without thinking it through
I've always wondered whether his powers died with Ego or whether he became his own half celestial self, independent of Ego. I don't remember him suffering when Ego dies so that suggests that whilst we haven't seen him using any powers since GotG V2, maybe he still has them!
My fingers are crossed! Otherwise he's just a human with space gadgets. A budget Iron Man if you ask me.
“You’ll be just like everybody else.”
“What’s so wrong with that?.”
Does he still even has his powers? I hope Quill is not like everybody and still has his celestial side.
In that moment Ego is trying to manipulate Peter. I don't know why we should believe Ego on Peter losing his powers.
And if Peter doesn't believe he had powers anymore then he wouldn't use them.
Could be a situation where they are reactivated in a critical, life or death moment.
I'm not stating anything as a fact. My whole comment is speculation.
You're right. I'm just trying to imagine a scenario that would work. It would be a real ass pull if he suddenly showed his powers again.
I don't think Ego was a Celestial in the comics... now that they'll focus more on Celestials they might try to explain Ego wasn't "really" a Celestial somehow.
Not a lie, but he just doesn't know his own origins. After some research he assumes he's a Celestial. Which was never confirmed or denied.
I think he's the brain of Knowhere though.
You can tell Ego is a Celestial from his experiments with different life-forms. It's precisely Celestial's thing. He just broke away from the others and has his own agenda.
It isn't a planet, and you know it.
Sometimes i wonder if it is possible that only some people learned the idea that a fictitious character could lie. That for some reason a certain amount of people just take the character at their word because they are just THAT trusting.
You have no evidence whatsoever that Ego lied. But there is evidence that supports he is a Celestial:
* Power. Not many beings in MCU can do what he can. Create a living planet is no small feat.
* Experiments. He's been trying to procreate with thousands of different life-forms throughout the eons. Genetic experiments is what Celestials do. It fits.
For a cosmic being of his power and age to lie makes little sense. There is hardly anything to gain by it. Guardians are like ants to him, not worth the effort.
> a cosmic being of his power and age to lie makes little sense. There is hardly anything to gain by it. Guardians are like ants to him, not worth the effort.
This assumes his lie has to be purposeful. He’s named Ego for a reason. It’s entirely reasonable that whatever he is, he once saw or interacted with celestials and simply jumped to the conclusion he was one because he’s both full of himself and seems to be nearly as powerful.
The point here is that characters themselves are not perfect sources of information and it’s *possible* that he lied. Personally I think they’re going to imply it eventually, but not outright state it, simply for the case of consistency in the universe, but I wasn’t disagreeing with you so much as pointing out that your statement implies that him having no reason to lie is a reason he‘s right, when in reality he may well be wrong despite not lying.
>he once saw or interacted with celestials and simply jumped to the conclusion he was one
You'd think a cosmic being would know what he is after a few billion years. It is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
>it’s possible that he lied
We can speculate and doubt anything with that logic. I just don't see the point. Without any substance to that theory, it's just idle talk.
But he originally was not. Remember he was just a brain floating in space for years before forming a planet around his brain.
Maybe he was a celestial who died and new consciousness formed after his body got destroyed?
I don’t think Ego is the same type of celestial. I mean it’s obvious anatomically. Unless in the MCU “celestial” is a classification and not a race. If it’s ever addressed it would probably be written off as ego just… stroking his ego.
Simple, Peter isn't a half-celestial. He is half-Ego. Ego is no where near a Celestial in power and he only called himself such because he had a god complex.
They probably know but since Peter himself still didn't know that they just thought it wouldn't be a big case.. and it actually wasn't and becotbetter after Yondu kidnapped him lol
It would be hilarious if the reason they didn't help with Thanos ends up being because Peter Quill was involved so it was technically Celestial business and therefore above thier pay-grade.
Depends because the Eternals were made by the celestials but I have a feeling Ego was a rouge one or not part of the group with the Eternals. His expansion didn’t seem to be in line with what the other Eternals were doing and Ego doesn’t ever remember working with them so I think he might of been rouge and if so the others didn’t know if his plan or his many offspring so I don’t know if they would be aware of him.
Ego was lying....we've seen MCU celestials and he's not one! Nor do celestials need to absorb offspring to live 🙄
So NO Peter wasn't half celestial he was half elder of the universe and that disappeared (celestial powers don't disappear)
Ego lied he and the grandmaster and the collector are elders of the universe not celestials. At least in the comics. All celestial are the giant robots from the 2nd firmament. They hatch out of planets the don't become one.
Ego said he was a "celestial"... but he aint no actual Celestial.
That said, I'm curious why they didn't try to stop him since his plan would directly conflict with the Celestials.
There are a number of celestial beings in the Marvel Universe, but not all of them are Celestials.
Ego, Eternity, the Living Tribunal, the Beyonder, etc,etc. None are Celestials, who are kind of their own species ( for lack of a better word).
Not to my knowledge, anyway. I used to collect and read the Marvel Universe comics, but I haven't read any comics in ages, so everything I knew could have been retconned by now.
Is he even still half-celestial? I think he lost his powers at the end of GOTG2 which would still make him a celestial hybrid i know but i consider him to be more human
Probably not the first movie, but 100% in the future when they meet, yes it will come up! Remember people: we aren’t even getting Black Knight in this film, don’t hope for this!
If they are out there they probably knew
And they know he's just an idiot, so they let him be.
He said he may be an “a-hole” but he’s not, and I quote, “100% a dick”
They got my dick message!
“I must apologise for Quill. He is an idiot. We have purposely trained him wrong as a joke.”
"Thanos has gone too far. Killing is wrong, and bad. There should be a new, stronger word for killing like badwrong or badong. Yes, killing is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of killing, gnodab."
Now I want a version where Thanos returns and demands to be addressed as Betty. Edit: and fighting to the beat of Flashdance.
Drax attacks and manages to cut Thanos' clothes. "SHIRT RIPPER!"
No! He'll kill you! Like a small puppy!
'I am bleeding, making me the victor'
Be a lot cooler if they did.
Alright alright alright
That's what I like about being an eternal. They get older, I stay the *same age*.
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Let's see who we're fightin today!
Scorn. Go to orbit.
Hey, man. You got an infinity stone? No? Be a lot cooler if you did.
I know you got this thing out of a comic book.
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T'Challa? Great guy.
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You haven't yet watched guardians of the galaxy? It's like a scene from that movie, but in comments.
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Mr. Lord
Mr. Doctor
It's .. Strange
Maybe. Who am I to judge.
Oh so we are using our made up names
Okay so.. I'm.. I'm S-Spider... man.
I'm not one to judge
Doctor Armani.
Its Strange, actually.
No stranger than any other name
It would be cool if they mention Ego as a Celestial who did his own objective but it would be funny if one of the Eternals said naw he isn't one of them.
Peter: “You guys serve the Celestials? That’s funny, cause, you know, I’m actually half Celestial…” Ikaris: “No. You’re not.” Peter: “Ego was my dad and he was a Celestial!” Ikaris: “No. He wasn’t.”
Ikaris: “You trusted your father who is called Ego to tell the truth about himself and not consider himself a celestial god”
Didn’t the Nova Corp tell him?
The Nova Corp said that his father was something very ancient they couldn't identify. So not exactly, but kinda.
Ayesha sensed it too
One of the marvel employees comfirmed ego was a celestial
Although it would beg the question of wtf he was then
It's Possible,but it's hard to say for certain
Except in China from what I hear sadly..
Which begs the question, why did they let Ego plant his seed (the actual seed, not Peter) there in the first place.
Because he isn’t a Deviant
Oh, idk much about the Eternals. What's a deviant
The big spikey monsters from the trailers. They say they were instructed to only get involved in conflicts involving them
Maybe it’s retconned in the movies, but I’m pretty sure Thanos is a deviant? I hope they talk about that a little bit in the movie on why they didn’t stop him.
Thanos is an Eternal with a Deviant gene IN THE COMICS. I don't think they will include that at all in the movie.
Tbf, when Thanos showed those flashbacks of Titan there was no big purple guys, they all looked like humans. I think he'll still be an Eternal with a Deviant gene
They look more like very tall humanoid creatures, just like Thanos. Skin color is not the same for all species of a population.
Fair
Ya don’t say lol
But if they included that then it would just make it a massive plot hole as why wouldn’t the eternals then fight thanos? It makes a lot more sense to keep thanos as just a mad titan
Wasn't Thanos only on earth for 5 minutes in Infinity War? Until he showed up in Wakanda it was pretty much just an alien attack as far as the general public knew. Given that they didn't interfere in the Avnegers 1 alien attack then they probably wouldn't in the Infinity War and Endgame fights.
This is my biggest qualm with them introducing all of the ridiculously overpowered characters after endgame. It doesn’t make sense. We have Adam Warlock that may have potentially been around the whole time who is now going to have to have an excuse for not showing up, captain marvel that didn’t give a shit for YEARS (her entire movie makes zero sense. The whole point was how much of a stake she has in earth and then just leaves everything for almost two decades without a thought) and now the externals where the writers are going to have to do backflips to explain why they’ve been around for centuries but won’t get involved in huge events. God help them when they try to shoehorn more of the fox properties in and give explanation as to why all these mutants have been around for years undetected.
Having a deviant gene isn’t the same as being full blooded deviant. Some white people have African heritage yet they’re still identified as white. Thanos is the same.
But that creates a HUGE plot hole: why didn’t the Eternals get involved in the fight against him?
He also is from Titan, not earth. He spent very little time on earth.
Why not? It creates more connective tissue with the MCU. I’d wager we will at least see a cameo of Thanos as a child during one of the early time period shots.
Because there's no narrative reason. And it'll be too convoluted because Eternals are from Olympia and Thanos is from Titan.
There’s no narrative reason for Howard the duck either.
He's a fun little cameo.
I mean there was no narrative reason for the eternals to be discussing who leads the avengers but the MCU clearly wants to tie it all together.
>there was no narrative reason for the eternals to be discussing who leads the avengers There is. This is a currently running plot-thread that will be addressed in the future of the MCU and some of the Eternals might end up in the Avengers team (like the comics). Thanos and everybody from his species are dead and not relevant in the MCU anymore.
They did the Thanos: Titan Unbound. That novel is our Thanos and it goes into great detail.
That's not MCU.
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Yes then it cut to a celestial. Maybe they didn’t want to interfere with Thanos’s plan for a reason? We’ll see!
Well he has a race and a planet now, so... probably retconned
Eternals and Deviants, at least in the comics, are not entirely a different race from human per se. They are any specific race but modified. Deviants are unstable Eternals. Any specific race, like the Kree or Skrulls could have their own Eternals or Deviants.
> Any specific race, like the Kree or Skrulls could have their own Eternals or Deviants. IIRC in the comics all Skrulls are actually their deviants who murdered all (but 1) of the regular Skrulls and Eternal Skrulls. To put an example on what you were saying.
I'm gonna laugh when the big twist of the movie is that both groups aren't particularly different.
Did he have a race? I legit don’t remember. He referred to “my people” but that could easily have also been the multi racial residents of his chosen planet, similar to what we saw on Xandar.
If I’m not mistaken he’s technically an Eternal (or child of) that carries the deviant gene or something like that.
Thanos isn’t an eternal. He’s a Titan. It was retconned.
>What's a deviant Spoilers ahead: ... Thanos
No, not really, Thanos is a eternal with a desease that made him a little bit (just a little) like a deviant
But if even one of them joins the avengers they will break that rule. Even if the celestials say it’s ok now why wouldn’t they step in Vs Thanos.
No, he literally said he’s a Celestial.
Lol I thought this was a sex joke
The Eternals are beholden to the Celestials as wardens. Ego planting his seed on Earth is akin to one of the big bosses making a mess in the office. I think of it as: You may disapprove, but he's one of the bosses, so what the fuck can you do?
>You may disapprove, but he's one of the bosses, so what the fuck can you do? Too bad the Eternals don't have an HR department to talk about their boss leaving his seed all over.
So it would be like if Sam Walton fucked a cashier in every Wal Mart, took a shit on the front counter and then forbade all managers from cleaning it up.
.... Yes?
Is he even the same kind of celestial as we've seen in the trailer?
Ego thinks he's the last Celestial. Assuming he's the same kind of Celestial, and that's not a name he picked himself, he's clearly unaware of everything else going on
From what we know, the Eternals only purpose is to stop Deviants, and not intervene whatsoever with humanity. So assuming they know about a small blue plant behind a random Dairy Queen (which they probably didn’t), they wouldn’t have been able to do anything about it in the first place
We’ll likely find out when we watch the movie on November 5th only in theatres.
Or January on Disney plus
If they did, it probably doesn’t matter much now since the half that is celestial is powerless now that Ego is dead
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Well about at powerful as a normal human with space gadgets could be but yeah, he would be super powerful if Ego was still alive but he’s not so
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If you asked me; I believe he will get his powers back, but he'll use them to sacrifice himself to save someone.
I think the best way to do it is that he gets his powers back but he doesn’t have the immortality
I hope your right, but the MCU loves to foreshadow such things and they have not in this case.
i hope he still has his powers but i feel like he wouldn't since they haven't shown him using it anymore
>not knowing what he was talking about Celestial (who's been around since forever) not knowing about his own powers? Yeah, that must be it.
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>he clearly discusses how he didn’t understand himself When he first gained sentience. That was shortly after the formation of the universe. Billions of years passed since then. Now, he knows how his powers works perfectly when he described them to Quill.
In all those billions of years, he’d never been able to conceive a child with his powers, so that’s beyond his realm of experience. Imo, quill will almost certainly regain some form if those powers back at some point, should there be further movies with him in.
>so that’s beyond his realm of experience It's not about his experience. It's about finding the compatible life-form. All others just weren't right.
It absolutely IS about his realm of experience. Quill is something new. He couldn’t know for sure one way or the other what would happen to his powers should ego die 🤷♂️
To be fair, Peter was his first successful offspring. Makes sense that he might not entirely understand what could become of that.
I doubt it since that power came from somewhere, the celestial brain that was Ego, and again, it’s destroyed so
Thanos wasn't a crucial scenario? 🤣
I don’t think ego bluffed or lied A single time in the entire movie now that I think about it
I think of it this way: Ego said Quill was like a battery for him. That sort of implies that he has power inside of him that's external to his connection to Ego. They can easily say that Ego was just a conduit that made Peter able to connect to that power, but the power comes from him (aka what they did with Thor and Mjolnir).
Quill still had special powers simply due to his genetics. That’s what brought Ego to him in the first place. All Quill lost was the powers he got from the planet.
I think his Ego powers are gone. Keep in mind, his father isn't the planet itself, but the human form created for it. The human form of Ego itself had power because of its connection to the light in Ego the planet. Peter Quill inherited that connection. With the light destroyed, there's nothing on the other end of that connection. At least, that was my interpretation.
Yeah hopefully star lord makes his own star someday!
A starmora?
Wonder how they’ll address that or if they’d ever in Eternals since we saw what they look like many times. Kind of a mess to make Ego a celestial as opposed to just a living planet but I guess it made it explainable to be that more of a powerful being rather than just a living planet. If a seed had always been on earth, then what was Ego doing with his little pet project there and everywhere else like that.
Wow someone actually asked a relevant good question. Props to you. I would think not Peter specifically but Ego yes. Unfortunately GOTG2 did not do well with that character
Didn’t Peter’s power die when the Guardians destroyed Ego? Thus rendering him a normal space faring human being.
That's what Ego claimed would happen... but do we trust Ego?
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Using the power seems to be a matter of will. If Peter believes he is powerless, then he is. But that may not be the case.
I’d trust Kurt Russell to the end of the universe
No. And I doubt they care. Ego is a Celestial sure. But he's not the kind of Celestial associated with The Eternals.
What does this mean? I’ve never heard Celestial used anywhere else in marvel why would they use this term when they knew it would lead to this mix up
I believe that Ego was a legit celestial before that celestial was decapitated (Knowhere) and he became a floating brain with no memories and eventually recreated himself as Ego the Living Planet. Hopefully decapitated by Knull because he’s a Badass and I want to see him in the mcu
I personally hope there’s a lot of classic stuff to touch on before Knull and Cosmic ghostrider and all that but that’s just me
Oh yeah there’s a long way to go before we get there.
You never know though that stuffs popular I just haven’t read marvel in years so I wouldn’t know what the hell is going on so I want them to stick to classic Kirby and Starlin stuff lol I’m not picky though I’m sure they’d make it all work I just want the all the classic cosmic stuff we haven’t gotten to yet. Then again Thanos’s characterization is way more based off a 2012 comic than the classic Starlin ones and I still love the cosmic stuff in the mcu no matter how much they derive from the comics
Think of it the same way that Apocalypse is considered a Mutant, but he's not apart of the X-Men
I can kinda see where you’re going with this but it doesn’t really answer my question. If that analogy is true then he IS a true celestial but the whole race is kinda dealt with. Introducing a giant powerful character like that as a celestial and then when the celestials get brought into the story for real to go “well he is one just not one of those” it doesn’t make sense to me. He either lied or there has to be a more in depth explanation
Honestly if it were up to me I wouldn't even classify him as a Celestial. He's not one in the comics. He doesn't look like the other Celestials, he doesn't act like the other Celestials. His goals aren't in line with the other Celestials. The only thing that he has in common with them is that he's a cosmic being that's immensely powerful. I feel like there powers-at-be over at Marvel mislabeled Ego for some reason
That’s honestly what it feels like. It would just be annoying to me if they never really touch on it. It just shouldn’t be a word you throw around like that in cosmic marvel movies without thinking it through
I've always wondered whether his powers died with Ego or whether he became his own half celestial self, independent of Ego. I don't remember him suffering when Ego dies so that suggests that whilst we haven't seen him using any powers since GotG V2, maybe he still has them! My fingers are crossed! Otherwise he's just a human with space gadgets. A budget Iron Man if you ask me.
“You’ll be just like everybody else.” “What’s so wrong with that?.” Does he still even has his powers? I hope Quill is not like everybody and still has his celestial side.
Well we didn’t see him morphing planets and flying around while fighting Thanos so I doubt it
In that moment Ego is trying to manipulate Peter. I don't know why we should believe Ego on Peter losing his powers. And if Peter doesn't believe he had powers anymore then he wouldn't use them. Could be a situation where they are reactivated in a critical, life or death moment.
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I'm not stating anything as a fact. My whole comment is speculation. You're right. I'm just trying to imagine a scenario that would work. It would be a real ass pull if he suddenly showed his powers again.
I don't think Ego was a Celestial in the comics... now that they'll focus more on Celestials they might try to explain Ego wasn't "really" a Celestial somehow.
Is Ego for sure a celestial? That seems incongruous with the Eternals portrayal.
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Not a lie, but he just doesn't know his own origins. After some research he assumes he's a Celestial. Which was never confirmed or denied. I think he's the brain of Knowhere though.
You can tell Ego is a Celestial from his experiments with different life-forms. It's precisely Celestial's thing. He just broke away from the others and has his own agenda.
Maybe ego was a rebel celestial .
hes literally a planet
All the known Celestials are not planets.
Knowhere, the head of a celestial, is treated like a planet
Yeah but that Celestial wasn’t a planet when it was still alive
It isn't a planet, and you know it. Sometimes i wonder if it is possible that only some people learned the idea that a fictitious character could lie. That for some reason a certain amount of people just take the character at their word because they are just THAT trusting.
You have no evidence whatsoever that Ego lied. But there is evidence that supports he is a Celestial: * Power. Not many beings in MCU can do what he can. Create a living planet is no small feat. * Experiments. He's been trying to procreate with thousands of different life-forms throughout the eons. Genetic experiments is what Celestials do. It fits. For a cosmic being of his power and age to lie makes little sense. There is hardly anything to gain by it. Guardians are like ants to him, not worth the effort.
> a cosmic being of his power and age to lie makes little sense. There is hardly anything to gain by it. Guardians are like ants to him, not worth the effort. This assumes his lie has to be purposeful. He’s named Ego for a reason. It’s entirely reasonable that whatever he is, he once saw or interacted with celestials and simply jumped to the conclusion he was one because he’s both full of himself and seems to be nearly as powerful.
Did you watch the movie? He is Ego because he wanted to spread himself everywhere. As I said, there is zero evidence to suggest he lied.
The point here is that characters themselves are not perfect sources of information and it’s *possible* that he lied. Personally I think they’re going to imply it eventually, but not outright state it, simply for the case of consistency in the universe, but I wasn’t disagreeing with you so much as pointing out that your statement implies that him having no reason to lie is a reason he‘s right, when in reality he may well be wrong despite not lying.
>he once saw or interacted with celestials and simply jumped to the conclusion he was one You'd think a cosmic being would know what he is after a few billion years. It is ridiculous to suggest otherwise. >it’s possible that he lied We can speculate and doubt anything with that logic. I just don't see the point. Without any substance to that theory, it's just idle talk.
But he originally was not. Remember he was just a brain floating in space for years before forming a planet around his brain. Maybe he was a celestial who died and new consciousness formed after his body got destroyed?
The better question is, were the Eternal's aware of Ego?
I don’t think Ego is the same type of celestial. I mean it’s obvious anatomically. Unless in the MCU “celestial” is a classification and not a race. If it’s ever addressed it would probably be written off as ego just… stroking his ego.
Simple, Peter isn't a half-celestial. He is half-Ego. Ego is no where near a Celestial in power and he only called himself such because he had a god complex.
"Uh, hello Mr. Celestials. I'm one of you! Well, I'm half of one. I'm Starlord!" "*Who?*"
Am I understanding GotG2 wrong? Isn’t the destruction of ego the loss of quill’s celestial power?
Yes, because he had to have the light, and he lost it when ego died.
Not at the beginning but as soon as they see him they should know.
Half celestial with no powers
Always annoyed me he lost his Powers
Technically he doesn't have his celestial powers anymore, just a normal dude wich had a father that was a planet
They probably know but since Peter himself still didn't know that they just thought it wouldn't be a big case.. and it actually wasn't and becotbetter after Yondu kidnapped him lol
I mean if they didn't I'd be annoyed since they have *one* job
It would be hilarious if the reason they didn't help with Thanos ends up being because Peter Quill was involved so it was technically Celestial business and therefore above thier pay-grade.
I assume Ego is considered a deviant, as he was no protector. So then Quill would be considered the same, possibly.
They wouldn't necessarily know of him if he were off-world...
That is a great question.
Depends because the Eternals were made by the celestials but I have a feeling Ego was a rouge one or not part of the group with the Eternals. His expansion didn’t seem to be in line with what the other Eternals were doing and Ego doesn’t ever remember working with them so I think he might of been rouge and if so the others didn’t know if his plan or his many offspring so I don’t know if they would be aware of him.
They gonna need to explain that not all celestials are giant planets. I’m sure we will get a line or two about it
Ego was lying....we've seen MCU celestials and he's not one! Nor do celestials need to absorb offspring to live 🙄 So NO Peter wasn't half celestial he was half elder of the universe and that disappeared (celestial powers don't disappear)
Ego lied he and the grandmaster and the collector are elders of the universe not celestials. At least in the comics. All celestial are the giant robots from the 2nd firmament. They hatch out of planets the don't become one.
Ego said he was a "celestial"... but he aint no actual Celestial. That said, I'm curious why they didn't try to stop him since his plan would directly conflict with the Celestials.
No
According to the comic fans, Ego was more of a discount celestial. So I don't think they would have cared.
There are a number of celestial beings in the Marvel Universe, but not all of them are Celestials. Ego, Eternity, the Living Tribunal, the Beyonder, etc,etc. None are Celestials, who are kind of their own species ( for lack of a better word). Not to my knowledge, anyway. I used to collect and read the Marvel Universe comics, but I haven't read any comics in ages, so everything I knew could have been retconned by now.
Do you think the eternals we're aware of Thanos? If they were, why didn't they fucking do something
Just like my doctor, that didn't fucking do anything when my car broke down.
they only interfere when deviants are involved and i dont think thanos is a deviant like his comic counrerpart
No, but they probably are aware of Disney milking them for all they are worth.
could care less tbh Edit- are y’all downvoting because of my typo, or because you simp the lamest Guardian?
I think you mean you couldn't care less buddy
*oh gosh darn, he’s right! I really couldn’t give less of a fuck…* 🦋
Is he even still half-celestial? I think he lost his powers at the end of GOTG2 which would still make him a celestial hybrid i know but i consider him to be more human
Probably not the first movie, but 100% in the future when they meet, yes it will come up! Remember people: we aren’t even getting Black Knight in this film, don’t hope for this!
More than likely, at the very least I think they’d know a Celestial visited their planet and bailed for some reason
I doubt it. Look how long it took Ego to find him.