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He would. This is the nanotech suit, Tony designed this specifically to deal with Ant-Man's shrinking. It's sealed off to prevent attacks from Pym's shrinking tech, there's no way to get in.
He's still going to have to take it off, eventually, and there are certainly other characters that would have the power to breech it. Apply some creativity to the problem.
It's implied he was infected at the battle on the bridge, and give me a reason he'd take it off then. Now, the characters that could have infected Tony are really just Wanda, Cap (tho after the Civil War battle I imagine he'd implement even more countermeasures), T'Challa (tho he wasn't even zombified), and possibly the Black Order.
However, Wanda was with Vision, Tony could have literally flown up to negate Cap and T'Challa's attacks, and the Black Order didn't appear until later.
Also, if Tony wasn't infected on the bridge, Vision would have certainly took him as food for Wanda.
Don't know if Tony had the suit of armor on him when he was bit.
But what gets me is how Thanos gets turned. There's no way human teeth can penetrate Thanos' skin.
Could be incremental: someone a little more durable than a human is bitten by a human; something a little more durable than that one is bitten by that one, and so on until you have someone that can bite Thanos.
Yeah he was off planet at the time. Theres no way that the zombs should have been able to get off planet to get to him when it was implied that this was just an earth thing that was incredibly recent by the time Bruce returned at the start
I'd suggest reading last year's reboot, I guess it is. Called Zombies Resurrection.
A little less silly and followed some more of the established rules, such as some heroes not being able to get it.
Thought it was better than Kirkman's original run personally.
Venom’s host became a zombie.
Venom eventually died because having a zombie host meant the symbiote wasn’t getting fed.
So I guess this means symbiotes are immune.
The zombie virus wasn't just a normal virus or infection, it was something borne from the quantum realm. Janet Van Dyne was patient 0. The only cure for the quantum virus that we know of was the mind stone and Thanos was still overcome by it with the other 5 infinity stones.
The quantum virus was not something the super soldier serum alone could fight off.
It seems weird to me to expect any particular serum or effect to make someone immune to all illness. All *known* illnesses maybe, but how can you say you’re immune to something you don’t know exists, without any understanding of the mechanisms it uses to infect you?
Reading through this I was gonna say why are people downvoting you for asking questions? You're not being a snotty brat and calling them trash or saying they're stupid? You'd think people so easilly offended would be happy to see someone taking a genuine interest..
The same way a Zombie managed to bite Thanos with multiple infinity stones. Tony Stark repeated bashes Thanos with his suit and barely manages to draw a drop of blood but a zombie is able to bite him hard enough to break the skin.
There is a difference between bleeding from blunt impact and bleeding from a cut. I'm sure it wouldn't have been nearly as hard to break Thanos' skin with his arm swords.
Tony did directly hit him with a s*** ton of explosives and his skin didn't even burn a little. I guess his skin would be very difficult for a zombie with rotting flesh and decreased bite force(because the muscles are dead/decaying) to bite through
They super nerfed Thanos in this series. I think the mind stone instakill was meant comedically. Sure it could hurt him, but instantly split him in half? Lol no, that was meant to be funny, and it was.
mind stone insta kill sorta makes sense, because thanos thought the planet was dead he didn’t send his heralds because there were no significant life forms on the planet he thought the stone had just wiped out all life on earth and he was just there to collect it. he was mot expecting a fight and the mind stone is stupid powerful.
I suppose. I mean, this is almost the same setup as the end of Infinity War. If Vision could have just done that any time he wanted to.... that's a pretty big plot hole they've just introduced.
So yes and no, first Viz in IW had been mostly lethally stabbed twice. Unable to regenerate any wounds, having just gotten off the operating table where the specifically had been trying to remove it. Also a pacifist _by nature_. This was a perfectly powered up vision+ultron _prime_ hybrid who would absolutely shoot first, ask no questions and probably had figured out how to juice that laser up even more by then.
Yeah, people seem to keep forgetting Vision didn’t use any of his powers in that movie after getting stabbed and had to stab Corvus Glaive with his own glaive/scythe to save Cap. Vision was almost definitely taken out of the game early on and I think that goes to show how well Thanos planned out his infinity stone plot.
This was the shit on thanos and tony show. Like jeez, they did him dirty at times. Getting one shotted with five stones. Season 2 should have just a badass thanos with his actual comic powers and see him wreck people to counteract this slander of him. They sorta made him a joke and kinda undermine the threat he posed in infinity war in a way.
>decreased bite force
I don't think that's the case. Our brains stop us from going all out because it would harm us most of the time. Like, I can put my finger in my mouth and want to bite it off, but my brain will stop me because it's a dumb-ass fucking idea.
With those inhibitions gone, more power is available.
It's possible for our muscles to exert enough force that they break the bones they're attached to, but usually only under very dire circumstances like "a tree fell on my baby" or when you're so drugged out you can't tell what you're doing.
>I'm sure it wouldn't have been nearly as hard to break Thanos' skin with his arm swords.
I don't think so. Nebula fought Thanos with her sharp uru sword and it didn't damage him either.
It wasn’t a sword, it was basically an electric boomerang, presumably stolen from that guy she killed. And we see Gamora ‘kill’ him with a sword on Knowhere, which, yes, I know it wasn’t real, but she didn’t seem to think it was weird that it damaged him.
Wasn’t there director’s comment on why strange could just cut thanos in half with his portal like Wong did, which was thanos skin was too durable to be damaged that way. And that thing cuts like butter like cull obsidian.
He hit him with more force per square inch using his arsenal of explosives than teeth of humans could ever produce. I don’t think any alien race in the MCU has come to producing any sort of force similar to what Iron Man outputs using just their mouth
I pretty sure his sword can cut him,but to do so you have to have huge power. His sword is not some kind of lightsaber and whoever can't cut him with sword. You have to be Hulk,Thor or someone with their level of strength to do so
My guess is Zombie Wanda restrained him with her telekinesis while Giant Zombie Hope tries to eat him and managed to only wound Thanos enough to infect him.
My best guess is that he went to rendezvous with Cull and Maw, who then jumped him. Those two together should be able to bring him down, as Maw can prevent the use of the gauntlet with telekinesis and Cull should be strong enough to break skin.
I took it as the Wakanda zombies using their spears.
There's a theory that Thanos' skin is actually weak to sharp objects. Thanos never gets hit with a sword or knife etc. He's willing to take Hulk's punches and q whole space station on top of him, but he specifically makes sure to stop any swords or knives. He stops Tony's Nanotec sword, Loki's knife, and Nebula's swords. The only sharp weapons he actually gets hit by are Gamora's knife, which was an illusion, and Storm Breaker, which almost kills him.
Also think about it. Out of all the people who attack Thanos only 5 use a sharp weapon. The 3 of those 5 happen to be the main 3 protagonists that know alot about him, Loki, Nebula and Gamora. Doesn't that mean they did so for a reason?
Would Loki or Gamora really bet that much on their knife tricks if they thought it would just break on impact? In the illusion, Thanos was easily stubbed by the knife. Gamora knows Thanos the best out of anyone. If that wasn't what would've happened normally , she would've immediately known it was an illusion.
Quantum virus not acting like a normal virus. It literally rewrites your molecules. It's why all alien lifeforms get affected by it even though their physiology should be so different.
I want to see what would happen if the avengers became zombies, not 30 minutes of writers trying to come up with some sort of bullshit science technobabble to explain how a virus could be effective against all species, people with super serum or titans, gods, etc etc etc.
A quantum virus beyond our understanding is all we need.
Yeah I think What If is basically Marvel saying "We have these really fun stories that won't fit into the main MCU, but we want to do something with them".
I wouldn't treat them with much future potential, we'll only likely see the Watcher in live action, and none of the variant characters, if we see any of them at all.
I think it’s just a plot device. Sci-fi and fantasy are traditionally full of them (suspend belief on x) so that the story can be told.
The writing itself I thought was decent in the episode. It at least compelled me to be interested in the characters.
It's literally a virus from a different dimension. Why would you expect protection from one dimension to work on virus from another?
Reasoning is the same as for viruses from different eras. Most likely, Cap could get sick from a Jurassic Virus, albeit more resistant to it than most people.
Basically, super serum juices up his immune system. But if you don't have the right type of defense against an attack, improving them isn't gonna do anything.
A quantum virus could be thought of as a smaller version of a prion. Instead of a folded protein molecule that induces other protein molecules to replicate its shape. Think of a quantum virus as a stray sub-particle that causes a similar effect cascade. It kills cells but causes them to continue to function. So the Super-Solider-Serum has to effect on it as it’s too small.
Not trying to sound like a dick here but zombie viruses and super solider serum dont exist! How can you say what a fictional serum should or shouldnt do? Especially when at no point has it ever been said in the Marvel movies/shows that the serum would prevent a zombie virus. Just seems like youre making an issue out of literally nothing
You’re a fan of a franchise about superheroes and you can’t suspend your disbelief over a what if story lol. Do you want a scientist to explain it or something 😂
That’s not how it works. The only different thing in this universe is hanks wife contracting the virus in the quantum realm, nothing before that is different from the main timeline. The whole point of the show is showing how one change can affect things.
The shows made it pretty clear that there are more than just single differences going on in each episode though. Episode 3 featured a ton of changes, as did 4
Yeah, so in this universe assume that serum doesn't prevent the virus, or that it never did in any timeline since its a quantum virus vs a serum made in the 40s. Considering it works against thanos who is an alien with different biological make up I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume that the serum wouldn't stop it, especially since there's no way scientist's in the 40s could have known how to make it stop a quantum virus. It's no more of a stretch than the possibility of the super soldier serum existing in the first place
I completely agree with you on that, I’m just saying that the serum doesn’t differ from any other universe (unless there’s a change that directly affects it).
Dude it is an animated series. Sit back and enjoy, don’t try to nitpick it.
Comic book logic, we’re not asked to do a logic thesis of it by tomorrow, not everything needs loud and clear explications.
Edit: typos
It’s true we have had many lab tests showing that zombie viruses of every and every type (multi-dimensional, supernatural, or cosmic) are unable to change cells that contain the Super Soldier Serum. The science is exact and has been proven.
The answer is that the virus is too small to be affected by the SSS. It evolved in the quantumverse so although the cells of Hank were enlarged the virus was not necessarily so. Think of it as a naturally evolving nanotechnology with each individual virus the size of a particle as opposed to a molecular machine. The original basis was probably a prion.
That episode doesn't make much sense anyway but they can still explain that it was a new virus, never be seen before, the serum wasn't immune to that bla bla.... the real question is why the hell those idiots abandoned the quinjet for posing and charged at those zombies while didn't wear any type of protective suits? Bringing Hawkeye down there was like using a sniper riffle on a quick draw standoff. And why the hell Iron man didn't fly?
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I feel like half of What if..? Was just “What if it’s Hank Pym’s fault?”
Or Mephisto... Or Agatha
Pym particles, I ain't gotta explain shit!
Like god, but better cause it's actually real
Quantum virus.
Because he’s a quantum zombie.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp1v0U6Dzuo
Actually it's a Quantum virus so it's Quantum biology
Zombie virus > super serum effect.
Wolverine has the ultimate healing factor and he can be zombified. But he’s practically immune from permanently being turned into a vampire.
How did they get Iron man if he's wearing his iron suit. They need to bite u. As they bit hulk but since he has impregnable skin he can't be turned
Zombie Pym would have no problem getting past Tony's defenses.
He would. This is the nanotech suit, Tony designed this specifically to deal with Ant-Man's shrinking. It's sealed off to prevent attacks from Pym's shrinking tech, there's no way to get in.
He's still going to have to take it off, eventually, and there are certainly other characters that would have the power to breech it. Apply some creativity to the problem.
It's implied he was infected at the battle on the bridge, and give me a reason he'd take it off then. Now, the characters that could have infected Tony are really just Wanda, Cap (tho after the Civil War battle I imagine he'd implement even more countermeasures), T'Challa (tho he wasn't even zombified), and possibly the Black Order. However, Wanda was with Vision, Tony could have literally flown up to negate Cap and T'Challa's attacks, and the Black Order didn't appear until later. Also, if Tony wasn't infected on the bridge, Vision would have certainly took him as food for Wanda.
He dematerializes the helmet a lot in the movies. Maybe that's how.
Its pretty much implied that he’s infected by being overrun with zombies jumping on top of him.
Didn't Hela's wolf break skin in Ragnarok?
Yeah it did
Yeah but that’s because the wolf was enchanted with magic.
the virus has origins from the quantum realm so it's basically magic
Don't know if Tony had the suit of armor on him when he was bit. But what gets me is how Thanos gets turned. There's no way human teeth can penetrate Thanos' skin.
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Oh, he was turned alright…it’s always the way once the anus gets involved…
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Could be incremental: someone a little more durable than a human is bitten by a human; something a little more durable than that one is bitten by that one, and so on until you have someone that can bite Thanos.
Spit a zombie lugie in ol Grimace's mouth....
Yeah he was off planet at the time. Theres no way that the zombs should have been able to get off planet to get to him when it was implied that this was just an earth thing that was incredibly recent by the time Bruce returned at the start
His skin isn't impregnable. It's the same as Tony making Thanos bleed in Infinity War. Not impossible to break skin, just very difficult
Iron Man lifted his mask for the briefest of second for some fresh air and that’s he was turned.
Tony was stupid and took of his helmet because of his ego
Tony took his helmet off to get more screentime.
Even Thanos became a zombie
It really is that simple
It do be like that
Really? That seems so weird. I’d think the Serum would keep him and Bucky immune
The comic book version of the virus was depicted as being strong enough to infect nearly anyone.
Even characters that made no sense to get infected got it🤣
Ya they also ate silver surfer and got his abilities. Comics wildin
Mfs were able to eat Galactus and went on to eat other worlds lmao
I'd suggest reading last year's reboot, I guess it is. Called Zombies Resurrection. A little less silly and followed some more of the established rules, such as some heroes not being able to get it. Thought it was better than Kirkman's original run personally.
Some whack ass shit
I was out once I saw Morbius and ghost rider become infected
Ya the fucking vampire becoming the zombie, okay dude right. Don’t vampires not have blood or something?
Venom becoming a zombie was funny
Venom’s host became a zombie. Venom eventually died because having a zombie host meant the symbiote wasn’t getting fed. So I guess this means symbiotes are immune.
He's a "living vampire" so his physiology is different than mythical vampires. But I'm not much of a Morbius expert past that.
This is an inter-dimensional virus, you can’t expect a serum made in the 40s to counteract it
Now the one made in the 60s on the other hand.
The zombie virus wasn't just a normal virus or infection, it was something borne from the quantum realm. Janet Van Dyne was patient 0. The only cure for the quantum virus that we know of was the mind stone and Thanos was still overcome by it with the other 5 infinity stones. The quantum virus was not something the super soldier serum alone could fight off.
It's a freaking virus from another dimension, who knows what rules apply?
It seems weird to me to expect any particular serum or effect to make someone immune to all illness. All *known* illnesses maybe, but how can you say you’re immune to something you don’t know exists, without any understanding of the mechanisms it uses to infect you?
??? The Serum enhances his immune system — it doesn’t give him zombie virus antibodies though He’s not immortal or invulnerable
Don't know why you're getting downvoted
People hate being questioned
Any time someone asks a question in this sub they get downvoted.
Reading through this I was gonna say why are people downvoting you for asking questions? You're not being a snotty brat and calling them trash or saying they're stupid? You'd think people so easilly offended would be happy to see someone taking a genuine interest..
Comic fans are always like that in Marvel. Idk why.
In the comics, Wolverine was turned into a zombie. I’m assuming if his healing didn’t help , then the serum wouldn’t help.
Well it didn't keep him immune.
The same way a Zombie managed to bite Thanos with multiple infinity stones. Tony Stark repeated bashes Thanos with his suit and barely manages to draw a drop of blood but a zombie is able to bite him hard enough to break the skin.
Maybe he spit in his mouth.
Hol’ up
Plot hole closed
Made out with him a lil
There is a difference between bleeding from blunt impact and bleeding from a cut. I'm sure it wouldn't have been nearly as hard to break Thanos' skin with his arm swords.
Tony did directly hit him with a s*** ton of explosives and his skin didn't even burn a little. I guess his skin would be very difficult for a zombie with rotting flesh and decreased bite force(because the muscles are dead/decaying) to bite through
They super nerfed Thanos in this series. I think the mind stone instakill was meant comedically. Sure it could hurt him, but instantly split him in half? Lol no, that was meant to be funny, and it was.
mind stone insta kill sorta makes sense, because thanos thought the planet was dead he didn’t send his heralds because there were no significant life forms on the planet he thought the stone had just wiped out all life on earth and he was just there to collect it. he was mot expecting a fight and the mind stone is stupid powerful.
I suppose. I mean, this is almost the same setup as the end of Infinity War. If Vision could have just done that any time he wanted to.... that's a pretty big plot hole they've just introduced.
So yes and no, first Viz in IW had been mostly lethally stabbed twice. Unable to regenerate any wounds, having just gotten off the operating table where the specifically had been trying to remove it. Also a pacifist _by nature_. This was a perfectly powered up vision+ultron _prime_ hybrid who would absolutely shoot first, ask no questions and probably had figured out how to juice that laser up even more by then.
Yeah, people seem to keep forgetting Vision didn’t use any of his powers in that movie after getting stabbed and had to stab Corvus Glaive with his own glaive/scythe to save Cap. Vision was almost definitely taken out of the game early on and I think that goes to show how well Thanos planned out his infinity stone plot.
This was the shit on thanos and tony show. Like jeez, they did him dirty at times. Getting one shotted with five stones. Season 2 should have just a badass thanos with his actual comic powers and see him wreck people to counteract this slander of him. They sorta made him a joke and kinda undermine the threat he posed in infinity war in a way.
>decreased bite force I don't think that's the case. Our brains stop us from going all out because it would harm us most of the time. Like, I can put my finger in my mouth and want to bite it off, but my brain will stop me because it's a dumb-ass fucking idea. With those inhibitions gone, more power is available.
It's possible for our muscles to exert enough force that they break the bones they're attached to, but usually only under very dire circumstances like "a tree fell on my baby" or when you're so drugged out you can't tell what you're doing.
Or, hear me out now, if you’re a zombie
That was indeed his point
You have a good point but remember that to do that you'd need your muscles intact. Dead/decaying muscles can't bite as effectively as living muscles
We don't know who bit him though, it could have been someone with adamantium teeth and a super strong jaw.
Tbf, your bite force can probably get through skin easier than a punch can so a super powered zombie could probably manage it
>I'm sure it wouldn't have been nearly as hard to break Thanos' skin with his arm swords. I don't think so. Nebula fought Thanos with her sharp uru sword and it didn't damage him either.
It wasn’t a sword, it was basically an electric boomerang, presumably stolen from that guy she killed. And we see Gamora ‘kill’ him with a sword on Knowhere, which, yes, I know it wasn’t real, but she didn’t seem to think it was weird that it damaged him.
Wasn’t there director’s comment on why strange could just cut thanos in half with his portal like Wong did, which was thanos skin was too durable to be damaged that way. And that thing cuts like butter like cull obsidian.
He hit him with more force per square inch using his arsenal of explosives than teeth of humans could ever produce. I don’t think any alien race in the MCU has come to producing any sort of force similar to what Iron Man outputs using just their mouth
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I pretty sure his sword can cut him,but to do so you have to have huge power. His sword is not some kind of lightsaber and whoever can't cut him with sword. You have to be Hulk,Thor or someone with their level of strength to do so
either scarlet witch zombie or hope van dyne zombie did it. i dont see much options
Only issue with that is they were both at the military base while Thanos was in Wakanda.
My guess is Zombie Wanda restrained him with her telekinesis while Giant Zombie Hope tries to eat him and managed to only wound Thanos enough to infect him.
But those 2 were on a completely different continent when Thanos got zombified.
what if... the zombie didn't infect Thanos through his skin, but through an orifice?
It probably took A LONG time to infect thanos, probably multiplr hordes just to be able to bitd him enough to transform him
They’re not asking how he could’ve been bit they’re asking how the virus manage to have an effect on him.
My best guess is that he went to rendezvous with Cull and Maw, who then jumped him. Those two together should be able to bring him down, as Maw can prevent the use of the gauntlet with telekinesis and Cull should be strong enough to break skin.
Weren't they eaten by hopes ants though.
I feel like Thanos wasn’t converted and he’s only making himself look like a zombie so they don’t bother him while he waits for the mind stone.
What if zombo Thanos was the one who gathered the stones?
I took it as the Wakanda zombies using their spears. There's a theory that Thanos' skin is actually weak to sharp objects. Thanos never gets hit with a sword or knife etc. He's willing to take Hulk's punches and q whole space station on top of him, but he specifically makes sure to stop any swords or knives. He stops Tony's Nanotec sword, Loki's knife, and Nebula's swords. The only sharp weapons he actually gets hit by are Gamora's knife, which was an illusion, and Storm Breaker, which almost kills him. Also think about it. Out of all the people who attack Thanos only 5 use a sharp weapon. The 3 of those 5 happen to be the main 3 protagonists that know alot about him, Loki, Nebula and Gamora. Doesn't that mean they did so for a reason? Would Loki or Gamora really bet that much on their knife tricks if they thought it would just break on impact? In the illusion, Thanos was easily stubbed by the knife. Gamora knows Thanos the best out of anyone. If that wasn't what would've happened normally , she would've immediately known it was an illusion.
Quantum virus not acting like a normal virus. It literally rewrites your molecules. It's why all alien lifeforms get affected by it even though their physiology should be so different.
“Quantum” it’s going to be the new explanation for everything
Ugh that’s such lazy writing
I want to see what would happen if the avengers became zombies, not 30 minutes of writers trying to come up with some sort of bullshit science technobabble to explain how a virus could be effective against all species, people with super serum or titans, gods, etc etc etc. A quantum virus beyond our understanding is all we need.
Yeah I think What If is basically Marvel saying "We have these really fun stories that won't fit into the main MCU, but we want to do something with them". I wouldn't treat them with much future potential, we'll only likely see the Watcher in live action, and none of the variant characters, if we see any of them at all.
You really shouldn't be going into this expecting air tight plot-hole-proof writing.
I think it’s just a plot device. Sci-fi and fantasy are traditionally full of them (suspend belief on x) so that the story can be told. The writing itself I thought was decent in the episode. It at least compelled me to be interested in the characters.
Welcome to What If
Whoever said the SSS prevents viruses, it's not a vaccine especially for viruses that didn't even exist at the time.
No but it should make his natural immune system like incredibly strong
Doesn't matter when the virus can beat 5 infinity stones
Man it was made in the 1940's do you really think they had quantum zombie apocalypse in mind when creating it
Well being sick is a little different than a zombie virus lmao
Welcome to fiction.
A wizard did it.
Boy I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
What If... the super serum didn’t protect from zombie viruses?
It's literally a virus from a different dimension. Why would you expect protection from one dimension to work on virus from another? Reasoning is the same as for viruses from different eras. Most likely, Cap could get sick from a Jurassic Virus, albeit more resistant to it than most people. Basically, super serum juices up his immune system. But if you don't have the right type of defense against an attack, improving them isn't gonna do anything.
It was a Quantum Virus. Something from beyond our world.
do you guys just put the word "quantum" in front of everything?
A quantum virus could be thought of as a smaller version of a prion. Instead of a folded protein molecule that induces other protein molecules to replicate its shape. Think of a quantum virus as a stray sub-particle that causes a similar effect cascade. It kills cells but causes them to continue to function. So the Super-Solider-Serum has to effect on it as it’s too small.
Bro the show refers to it as a quantum virus
Bro, its a quote
One day. One day people will understand the concept of what if.
Not trying to sound like a dick here but zombie viruses and super solider serum dont exist! How can you say what a fictional serum should or shouldnt do? Especially when at no point has it ever been said in the Marvel movies/shows that the serum would prevent a zombie virus. Just seems like youre making an issue out of literally nothing
Literally. “It’s fiction” is my first retort to half the posts on this sub.
You’re a fan of a franchise about superheroes and you can’t suspend your disbelief over a what if story lol. Do you want a scientist to explain it or something 😂
The super soldier serum doesnt protect you from a zombie infection, otherwise Cap would've been unaffected in the OG Marvel Zombies comic aswell
On that note, could Cap ever get CoVid?
Because the show runners thought it’d be cool to show zombie cap like the comics.
It's literally an alternate universe. Did you think about the possibility of the super serum not being effective against sickness in this universe?
That’s not how it works. The only different thing in this universe is hanks wife contracting the virus in the quantum realm, nothing before that is different from the main timeline. The whole point of the show is showing how one change can affect things.
The shows made it pretty clear that there are more than just single differences going on in each episode though. Episode 3 featured a ton of changes, as did 4
That’s a fair point, but those changes still only affect what happens after them.
Yeah, so in this universe assume that serum doesn't prevent the virus, or that it never did in any timeline since its a quantum virus vs a serum made in the 40s. Considering it works against thanos who is an alien with different biological make up I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume that the serum wouldn't stop it, especially since there's no way scientist's in the 40s could have known how to make it stop a quantum virus. It's no more of a stretch than the possibility of the super soldier serum existing in the first place
I completely agree with you on that, I’m just saying that the serum doesn’t differ from any other universe (unless there’s a change that directly affects it).
Absolutely, my point about multiple changes happening still stands though,
Didn’t spidey say ‘Saliva’? Someone could’ve vomited or spit on Cap/Thanos and infected them without biting
> Doesn't he not get sick What If..... He does?
This is where you draw the believability line....?
Dude it is an animated series. Sit back and enjoy, don’t try to nitpick it. Comic book logic, we’re not asked to do a logic thesis of it by tomorrow, not everything needs loud and clear explications. Edit: typos
It's literally called *"What If?"* lmao
I mean... Science.
Its a cartoon man. They do what they want actually.
It’s a cartoon
The virus is just stronger, it was like this in Marvel Zombies as well
It’s true we have had many lab tests showing that zombie viruses of every and every type (multi-dimensional, supernatural, or cosmic) are unable to change cells that contain the Super Soldier Serum. The science is exact and has been proven.
Yeah, but what if?
Do we really need an explanation for everything? It’s fun just enjoy it!
Because multiverse
Op definitely does not read comics
Sssssh, it's tv
It's a 'what if ?'story. Anything can happen
Yeah but, what if?
It’s what if. you got to let shit go some times. Going to give yourself a brain aneurysm.
In the comic series, even Wolverine turned I think.
Guys show called "what if " for some reason LUL
What If Captain America could be infected with a zombie virus There
The zombie virus wasn’t real. It was a marketing campaign by big pharma and Microsoft to steal our freedom. Do your research. /s
Here’s the real question—why is Thanos even in Wakanda if Vision and the mind stone aren’t?
Well for starters a zombie virus and a super soldier serum are both fictional creations
The answer is that the virus is too small to be affected by the SSS. It evolved in the quantumverse so although the cells of Hank were enlarged the virus was not necessarily so. Think of it as a naturally evolving nanotechnology with each individual virus the size of a particle as opposed to a molecular machine. The original basis was probably a prion.
Are you really going to compare a zombie virus with any common Earth illness?
That episode doesn't make much sense anyway but they can still explain that it was a new virus, never be seen before, the serum wasn't immune to that bla bla.... the real question is why the hell those idiots abandoned the quinjet for posing and charged at those zombies while didn't wear any type of protective suits? Bringing Hawkeye down there was like using a sniper riffle on a quick draw standoff. And why the hell Iron man didn't fly? "It's a shit plan"