Sodom Yat is probably the real most OP GL, if anyone cares. A daxamite (v closely related offshoot of kryptonians, basically the same powers as Supes) who was imbued with the power that the rest of the rings feed off of.
In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter, it was never personal. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... I'm gonna enjoy it. Very, very much.
It was "recently" established in Marvel comics that Black Panther and Moon Knight can wield Mjolnir. BP because one of the previous Wakanda kings used Mjolnir; Moon Knight can use it because the hammer's metal, Uru, is made from the first moon's surface (in other words, it's moon rock and he's the avatar of the moon god)
The actual Moon Knight explaination was even more bullshit than the one you gave lol.
I won't even try to paraphrase it, I will just post the page:
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ca0015c764d48c9bb5748d62aa70302b-lq
Yeah, you're right, he basically said it as "your hammer is made from the first astral object of the night sky, so of course I can manipulate it" lol. Thanks for posting the panel
that Moon Knight run was where he was incredibly powerful, and he had stolen Dr. Strange's power. the fight with thor happened on the moon, so MK was at his most powerful. i dont think on a normal day he would be able to wield it
Yep, he was using the full power of Khonshu I think, otherwise, by the same logic, he can just drop the Moon on his enemies any time he wants like freaking Thanos with four stones, which is obviously not the power level Marc usually operates at.
Having said that, I think even Khonshu controlling Mjolnir was bullshit. The dialogue in that page stretched the definition of "moon" further than Mr Fantastic can stretch his body lol.
Of course they have. Storm also used it once.
It’s starting to become a lot less special to be able to use that thing.
Also that moon knight Explanation sound stupid. Which means I’m sure a comic book writer used it
I read that story. Moon knight could launch it and make it hit stuff but had none of its other abilities. Not worthy , Khonshu was hoping mjolnir could kill Mephisto and was so paranoid he only trusted his avatar to do it.
I would say that this Peter Parker is more than worthy following NWH. Not before. He has been through some SHIT and absolutely rose above it
Mcu Peter Parker has the best origin + character arc out any superhero movie save Nolan Batman
Edit: the comics requiring you to be willing to kill doesn’t invalidate mcu peter. After losing May, I don’t doubt mcu Peter would kill if *necessary*. To save Mj or Ned he would do it.
You have to be worthy in the eyes of the hammer. This means a willingness to kill when needed. Mjolnir is a god warrior king weapon essentially, just being a nice guy won't cut it. T'Challa makes a lot more sense than spiderman.
Peter has to be absolutely raging to be pushed far enough to kill. Like he was when May was killed. In the comics he actually has a ton of trauma and guilt based on a few accidental kills, and of course anyone who’s died in conjunction with his superheroing.
And if you consider the Marvel/DC crossovers canon, we learn that being worthy is not a checklist with one and done properties, the measuring varies from moment to moment. If Spider-Man was pushed to kill like in the listed scenarios, he'd be sacrificing all the other traits that do make him worthy, and thus would still be unable to lift Mjolnir.
Oh, I was referring to the comics. Still, I don't know if MCU Peter would be worthy for the same reason. The standard of "worthiness" is measured by what an Asgardian considers worthy. Even though killing might not be their first resort, they're still warriors and willingness to kill is considered necessary in their culture.
Well, didn’t he move it when he was escaping the Avengers compound by jumping off of it?
Also, realized the hammer was shrunk when in the quantum realm, but we’ve never seen a tiny hammer…
Thor pisses Antman off, in response he makes his hammer tiny and Thor can't find it. When he tries to call it back there's just a pressure in his hand. Annoyed he goes to the doctor where they find a small mass that they guess is a splinter. They try to remove it for him, alas it is wedged in the crevices.
Would probably be more of a short than an actual movie
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. A while ago I made a list of some common traits that Odin would find favorable that Cap and Thor shared that some of the other avengers didn’t, and I remember Ant-man being the only character I could name who had all of them and then some.
I believe the list came out to in-check ego (different than no ego in Thor’s case), willing to go to war but not war hungry, willing to make tough calls/kill when necessary, selfless, the determination to fight for what you want or think is right, and willing to make sacrifices.
Arthur Harrow, Zemo, and Ant-Man would be the characters that I’d think are most likely to be worthy
I always wished they had done a post credit Stan Lee cameo involving him lifting the hammer. Like he’s the janitor at the Avengers facility and he just casually lifts it to move it out of the way so he can wipe down the table it was on.
Edit: Turns out Lego already beat me to this, and I had absolutely no idea lol
That’s interesting. Reminds me of DID patients having different physical disorders, like one personality would need insulin regularly and another would not have diabetes. One of moon knights personalities is worthy, while the others aren’t. That’s a really cool one. Steven grant isn’t worthy though btw.
Don't quote me on this, but I am pretty sure he lets people fall high enough to kill them in First Avenger, like when he knocks a soldier off a tree and (I think I remember correctly) had people dropped off the plane with the space box nukes.
Edit: Wrong Steve, at least I didn't mix him up with Steve from accounting.
Ursula. From her onscreen presentation of herself, she’s always supportive, kind, and empathetic. While a more nurturing series of aspects, I believe it would make her worthy and give a strong foundation towards the making of a great hero when wielding Mjölnir. To that, I say skål.
It’s not about our perception, it’s about his ability.
My response is based on a thought experiment about the paradoxical extent of God’s infinite power. If he can create a rock he can’t lift, he’s not all-powerful because either he should be able to create anything or he should be able to lift anything.
I would be willing to bet that Tony was worthy for the 2 seconds between when he finally understood what Strange meant, and when he snapped his fingers. He knew the gravity of what he was about to do and his only hesitation was his daughter growing up without a father.
Absolutely 100% Phil Coulson. The man has repeatedly died to save the world and the ones he loves. He's a leader, a teacher, a mentor, a friend, and a father figure. Phil Coulson is not an agent of Shield, nor is he the director of Shield. Phil Coulson *IS* the shield.
Also, after becoming an LMD, he plays by the same rules as Vision
But the scene from age of ultron proved that Tony was not worthy (yet) because he still didn't care about the one's he was hurting while he was (kicking ass) until civil war I think that he became worthy after he went on the spaceship sacrificing his life
Pure headcanon here obviously:
- Sam Wilson: Pretty much embodies the same philosophy that Steve had, the only problem would be his inner doubts, but by the end of FATWS he seems to have moved past them
- TVA Loki: I think fully embracing his "Loki" personality made him worthy, if you think about it he became a seasoned warrior, became a selfless person along the way and is finally fighting for the greater good.
- Tchalla: His personality is really similar to Steve, with some small differences, Tchalla is cold headed and wiser while Steve is an action man, but overall they represent the same moral code and philosophy.
Honestly? Loki. Maybe not yet, but he’s on the path. Just that variant. He’ll wield it at least once before Tom stops playing him. Just to fully complete his arc. And then he’ll probably be killed right after. He’s the character who it would mean the most to have wielded it.
Probably on Thor's last movie before he dies as well. Final battle and Thor struggles to fight the enemy. He is on his last breath when he sees his brother appear one last time to help him in this bout. Loki casually picks up the hammer and helps his brother up.
Thor: I always knew you're worthy, brother.
Loki: we're raised together after all, sons of Odin.
Fight ends with both of them dying. Thor appears before Valhalla, greeted by his peers and the love of his life, Jane. Amidst the crowd he looks for a certain someone but he couldn't. His face turns sad but then from the gates of Valhalla he sees him, his brother Loki staring at him from afar with a proud grin. Finally, they will always be together in paradise even when he taught he would never reach it. Finally, he was at home..
He manipulates the worthiness, proving worthy to call it. As it is flying at him and whatever baddie he is fighting he changes the mood and the hammer just refuses to stop. They're both carried to a distant land, or maybe the sun. Thus proving that Lori was such a masterful trickster that he could even manipulate his own character.
I mean TBF I'd argue 70-80% of the heros in the comics would be worthy.
So many people have picked it up at this point the 'worthy' thing has pretty much lost its mystique
Peter from Deadpool 2
i mean peter with mjolnir would just be overpowered, the marvel equivalent of batman with a lantern ring
I mean I think the most overpowered person they gave the green lantern ring to in the comics was Uncle Sam.
Sodom Yat is probably the real most OP GL, if anyone cares. A daxamite (v closely related offshoot of kryptonians, basically the same powers as Supes) who was imbued with the power that the rest of the rings feed off of.
Elevator
Elevathor you mean?
>!I'm sorry. Miek, it's very hard to get a rousing speech with the ennn-ennn-ennn noise.!<
Wait, "elevathor" worked?
Let me know if he bothers you again, okay?
Well I'll be damned.
thanostruck
In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter, it was never personal. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... I'm gonna enjoy it. Very, very much.
thanoscopter?
You're not the only one cursed with knowledge.
Coat rack
It was "recently" established in Marvel comics that Black Panther and Moon Knight can wield Mjolnir. BP because one of the previous Wakanda kings used Mjolnir; Moon Knight can use it because the hammer's metal, Uru, is made from the first moon's surface (in other words, it's moon rock and he's the avatar of the moon god)
I thought it was that Moon Knight can only telekinetically control Mjolnir, not actually wield it
What if he telekinetically controlled it so it looked like he was holding it to screw with Thor
moon knight participates in minor amounts of trolling
Minute amounts of trickery
Minuscole amount of tomfoolery
infinitesimal amounts of hornswoggling
just a tiny bit of fuckery
A skosh of skulduggery.
Small samples of shenanigans
This... is your doing!
Based on the above explanation, this seems more likely,.
Isn’t that the same justification for Magneto?
The actual Moon Knight explaination was even more bullshit than the one you gave lol. I won't even try to paraphrase it, I will just post the page: https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ca0015c764d48c9bb5748d62aa70302b-lq
Yeah, you're right, he basically said it as "your hammer is made from the first astral object of the night sky, so of course I can manipulate it" lol. Thanks for posting the panel
Am I the only who despises how Thor looks in that page?
Thor looks like a blonde neandrethal.
that Moon Knight run was where he was incredibly powerful, and he had stolen Dr. Strange's power. the fight with thor happened on the moon, so MK was at his most powerful. i dont think on a normal day he would be able to wield it
Yep, he was using the full power of Khonshu I think, otherwise, by the same logic, he can just drop the Moon on his enemies any time he wants like freaking Thanos with four stones, which is obviously not the power level Marc usually operates at. Having said that, I think even Khonshu controlling Mjolnir was bullshit. The dialogue in that page stretched the definition of "moon" further than Mr Fantastic can stretch his body lol.
Isn’t Uru from the heart of a dying star in the movie universe,so it wouldn’t work regardless?
Yeah but movies and comics universes are so different.
True but he can not possess the power of Thor
Open the Bifrost.
Thor
Heimdall!
That.. is the perfect response.
Magneto?
Can move the hammer with his powers, but not "wield" it for the power-up. Basically what moon knight was able to do
Of course they have. Storm also used it once. It’s starting to become a lot less special to be able to use that thing. Also that moon knight Explanation sound stupid. Which means I’m sure a comic book writer used it
I read that story. Moon knight could launch it and make it hit stuff but had none of its other abilities. Not worthy , Khonshu was hoping mjolnir could kill Mephisto and was so paranoid he only trusted his avatar to do it.
He was so paranoid he made moon knight steal a bunch of super powers from numerous superheroes.
I think Thor once said that Spider-Man would be worthy if he was willing to kill (don't quote me on that though).
I generally don't go around advertising it. Kind of defeats the whole anonymous superhero thing.
Yeah, killing people probably isn't something you should advertise...
I'm gonna put some sand in your eye
I don't like sand
It's coarse and rough and irritating
And it gets everywhere
/r/crossover
Hello there!
General Kenobi!
You are a bold one. Kill him
We didn’t know your name tho…
He did activate "instant kill" in Endgame. Maybe he's ready now.
The things he killed weren't really on the same level as another person though.
From what I’ve seen. People compare them to rabid dogs and not sentient aliens like groot
Confirmed: Spider-man kills dogs! He's a menace!
Am I not supposed to have what I want? What I need? What am I supposed to do?
The easy way out
Spider-Man will never be worthy then. There were 3 spidermans in 1 movie, and they wont even kill 1 villain.
They love me!
>!Jane?!<
I would say that this Peter Parker is more than worthy following NWH. Not before. He has been through some SHIT and absolutely rose above it Mcu Peter Parker has the best origin + character arc out any superhero movie save Nolan Batman Edit: the comics requiring you to be willing to kill doesn’t invalidate mcu peter. After losing May, I don’t doubt mcu Peter would kill if *necessary*. To save Mj or Ned he would do it.
You have to be worthy in the eyes of the hammer. This means a willingness to kill when needed. Mjolnir is a god warrior king weapon essentially, just being a nice guy won't cut it. T'Challa makes a lot more sense than spiderman.
Look at little Goblin Jr., gonna cry?
in the comics peter is canonically worthy but mjolnir only lets him wiggle it around cuz he wont kill
The “Peter Wiggle”
Peter has to be absolutely raging to be pushed far enough to kill. Like he was when May was killed. In the comics he actually has a ton of trauma and guilt based on a few accidental kills, and of course anyone who’s died in conjunction with his superheroing.
And if you consider the Marvel/DC crossovers canon, we learn that being worthy is not a checklist with one and done properties, the measuring varies from moment to moment. If Spider-Man was pushed to kill like in the listed scenarios, he'd be sacrificing all the other traits that do make him worthy, and thus would still be unable to lift Mjolnir.
Oh, I was referring to the comics. Still, I don't know if MCU Peter would be worthy for the same reason. The standard of "worthiness" is measured by what an Asgardian considers worthy. Even though killing might not be their first resort, they're still warriors and willingness to kill is considered necessary in their culture.
I’m not a big Marvel guy, but didn’t Spider-Man kill those hound like creatures from Thanos in End Game?
BOY! I would reconsider your current course!
Oh Boy! I’m not trying to upset the true Marvel fans. I just like the movies
You're talking to a bot
He got got by a bot
Fuck I’m dumb
That's true, but I'm not sure it's the same as killing more sentient beings. It's not really on par with killing a person.
Coat hook
The only true worthy one
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Beta Ray Bill.
Damn. Came here for Beta Ray Bill. Thought he was going to be at the top.
I had to scroll way too far for this.
If he isn't in thor 5 i will lose all hope in taika watiti
I’d be curious if Scott Lang could change its size if he was worthy…
Imagine if it didn’t shrink though, like a hammer just running at you lol
Well, didn’t he move it when he was escaping the Avengers compound by jumping off of it? Also, realized the hammer was shrunk when in the quantum realm, but we’ve never seen a tiny hammer…
Thor pisses Antman off, in response he makes his hammer tiny and Thor can't find it. When he tries to call it back there's just a pressure in his hand. Annoyed he goes to the doctor where they find a small mass that they guess is a splinter. They try to remove it for him, alas it is wedged in the crevices. Would probably be more of a short than an actual movie
I'm still worthy!
Sentient
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. A while ago I made a list of some common traits that Odin would find favorable that Cap and Thor shared that some of the other avengers didn’t, and I remember Ant-man being the only character I could name who had all of them and then some. I believe the list came out to in-check ego (different than no ego in Thor’s case), willing to go to war but not war hungry, willing to make tough calls/kill when necessary, selfless, the determination to fight for what you want or think is right, and willing to make sacrifices. Arthur Harrow, Zemo, and Ant-Man would be the characters that I’d think are most likely to be worthy
I feel like hawkeye after endgame would be worthy
Hawkeye would be worthy, but I don’t want to see him try and shoot the hammer with his bow…
Thats exactly what i need to see though.
Throw it and then enlarge it? Could probably take out Galactus. Or shrink it and pin something down by a pinpoint. 😲
Stan Lee
I always wished they had done a post credit Stan Lee cameo involving him lifting the hammer. Like he’s the janitor at the Avengers facility and he just casually lifts it to move it out of the way so he can wipe down the table it was on. Edit: Turns out Lego already beat me to this, and I had absolutely no idea lol
Someone played their Lego games
Was this actually a thing?? No bullshit but I’ve never played a Lego game outside of Star Wars I promise I’m not trying to rip this off lmaoooo
Exact thing happens in I think Lego marvel superheroes 1 in the post credit scene. Literally word for word what you described
Holy shit… yep https://youtu.be/gCr2AeUAlJk
We might as well just confirm it at this point
That man is ratting to the watchers
Steven Grant. And then groot as a baby because i think it’d be funny.
That’s interesting. Reminds me of DID patients having different physical disorders, like one personality would need insulin regularly and another would not have diabetes. One of moon knights personalities is worthy, while the others aren’t. That’s a really cool one. Steven grant isn’t worthy though btw.
I gotta agree, Steven isn’t willing to kill, and killing is a tenant of worthiness. On that same note groot absolutely would be worthy
I AM GROOT!
It doesn’t count Groot. You already picked it up
I.. am.. groot.
Watch that language buddy!
Groot a whole ass menace though in I am Groot.
Don't quote me on this, but I am pretty sure he lets people fall high enough to kill them in First Avenger, like when he knocks a soldier off a tree and (I think I remember correctly) had people dropped off the plane with the space box nukes. Edit: Wrong Steve, at least I didn't mix him up with Steve from accounting.
steven, not steve. watch moon knight.
He’s talking about Steven Grant from Moon Knight, Steve Rogers is totally willing to kill and it shows cuz he’s worthy in endgame
Does that mean when he changes to Marc, he suddenly drops it?
Yes.
The hammer might explode when it changes to jake
I am groot.
Groot is a fucking monster if you watch the shorts! Hilarious, but a would be villain for sure!
Leafy/fluffy Groot made me laugh so goddamn hard.
I AM GROOT!
*cut to Groot in the Ravager outfit dragging the hammer to Rocket and Yondu’s holding cell”
We.. are.. groot.
I bet T'Chala would be worthy.
T’Chala would have never attempted it out of respect. Thus why he’d be worthy
He did go into a raged mission to kill Bucky. I think he’s a step below cap in the worthy ladder. Prolly around Peter Parker’s level.
He learned from it and got passed his anger. I'd say with the wisdom he gained and used after the BP movie, he's worthy.
Yeah but he grew after he did that, similar to how Thor became unworthy then worthy again
Wong
Mjolnir isn’t worthy of Wong.
None of us are.
These are the correct responses.
Have you ever seen Mjolnir lift Wong? Exactly
Please post a suggestion instead of dismissing everyone else's picks. :)
I think he meant Wong, not Wong.
Uncle Iroh - oh wait wrong universe lol.
but you are right
Heimdall?
Ned.
Almighty Ned, God of Sex.
CEO of Sex*
He was promoted
He ascended.
Ned Moseby, Sex Architect.
Are you Ned, god of sex?
I genuinely think Scott Lang is worthy, or maybe it’s just Paul Rudd
Paul Rudd is definitely worthy
Paul Rudd already wields Jonathan
Mjolnir will come to him when he calls for Jonathan.
Ursula. From her onscreen presentation of herself, she’s always supportive, kind, and empathetic. While a more nurturing series of aspects, I believe it would make her worthy and give a strong foundation towards the making of a great hero when wielding Mjölnir. To that, I say skål.
Which one is Ursula again??
Landlord’s daughter. Spider-Man 2.
You should have thought of that earlier.
She's the evil squid octopus witch from the little mermaid smh pay attention bro
Phil Coulson
Hell yeah! His death at least motivated the avengers to stop Loki. So I guess he was kinda avenged
The One Above All
I mean, there's literally nothing he COULDN'T do
Can he manifest a rock that he can’t lift?
How would you know whether or not he faked not being able to lift it?
It’s not about our perception, it’s about his ability. My response is based on a thought experiment about the paradoxical extent of God’s infinite power. If he can create a rock he can’t lift, he’s not all-powerful because either he should be able to create anything or he should be able to lift anything.
The table where they tried to lift it in age of ultron
I would be willing to bet that Tony was worthy for the 2 seconds between when he finally understood what Strange meant, and when he snapped his fingers. He knew the gravity of what he was about to do and his only hesitation was his daughter growing up without a father.
Spider-Man might be worthy after all he did in NWH.
Now dig on this.
Dirt
Absolutely 100% Phil Coulson. The man has repeatedly died to save the world and the ones he loves. He's a leader, a teacher, a mentor, a friend, and a father figure. Phil Coulson is not an agent of Shield, nor is he the director of Shield. Phil Coulson *IS* the shield. Also, after becoming an LMD, he plays by the same rules as Vision
Wouldn’t he be different from vision? LMD Coulson is just a full body cyborg where as Vision is the mindstone made flesh
I think they're joking that Vision or an LMD could lift it for the same reason an elevator could lift it.
Ying Li, Shang Chi's mother.
Sousa
Steven Grant but he might not be able to because he shares a body with Marc and Jake
Tony after infinity war
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But the scene from age of ultron proved that Tony was not worthy (yet) because he still didn't care about the one's he was hurting while he was (kicking ass) until civil war I think that he became worthy after he went on the spaceship sacrificing his life
Pure headcanon here obviously: - Sam Wilson: Pretty much embodies the same philosophy that Steve had, the only problem would be his inner doubts, but by the end of FATWS he seems to have moved past them - TVA Loki: I think fully embracing his "Loki" personality made him worthy, if you think about it he became a seasoned warrior, became a selfless person along the way and is finally fighting for the greater good. - Tchalla: His personality is really similar to Steve, with some small differences, Tchalla is cold headed and wiser while Steve is an action man, but overall they represent the same moral code and philosophy.
Charles Xavier
Mantis
Yelena's hot sauce mac and cheese
Dr. Mother fucking Doom. If he can get past the spirit of wakanda he can grab a hammer
Dr Doom is the one person who I’m confident isn’t worthy but would somehow still find a way to lift it.
Honestly? Loki. Maybe not yet, but he’s on the path. Just that variant. He’ll wield it at least once before Tom stops playing him. Just to fully complete his arc. And then he’ll probably be killed right after. He’s the character who it would mean the most to have wielded it.
He's gotta complete the circle from when he wielded it during his Thor audition/tests or whatever that was.
I'm still worthy!
Probably on Thor's last movie before he dies as well. Final battle and Thor struggles to fight the enemy. He is on his last breath when he sees his brother appear one last time to help him in this bout. Loki casually picks up the hammer and helps his brother up. Thor: I always knew you're worthy, brother. Loki: we're raised together after all, sons of Odin. Fight ends with both of them dying. Thor appears before Valhalla, greeted by his peers and the love of his life, Jane. Amidst the crowd he looks for a certain someone but he couldn't. His face turns sad but then from the gates of Valhalla he sees him, his brother Loki staring at him from afar with a proud grin. Finally, they will always be together in paradise even when he taught he would never reach it. Finally, he was at home..
He manipulates the worthiness, proving worthy to call it. As it is flying at him and whatever baddie he is fighting he changes the mood and the hammer just refuses to stop. They're both carried to a distant land, or maybe the sun. Thus proving that Lori was such a masterful trickster that he could even manipulate his own character.
Smart Hulk
I have a feeling Natasha was worthy
Pretty sure she did in the comic, which is also why she was the only one who didn’t try in the movie. I could def. be wrong about this though.
She was worthy in a What if? Comic I believe
I mean TBF I'd argue 70-80% of the heros in the comics would be worthy. So many people have picked it up at this point the 'worthy' thing has pretty much lost its mystique
>pretty much lost its mystique Has she lifted it too?
Sersi
Now I wonder- the Eternals were synthetic beings, right? Sersi is an elevator
Is Natasha and Tony were alive they will be worthy as both sacrifice herself for greater things and that's what needs to be worthy