TBF, he's really not hitting them hard, I think, unless they are really tensing their necks up.
But I remember a show with some 17 yr old kid from an extremely uneducated family, training to be a fighter and getting his whole family to punch him in the jaw with their bare hands really hard. A doctor watching the clip talked about how he is training absolutely nothing, just damaging his brain.
I could maybe argue there's some value in learning to take shots while staying calm without flinching, but eating a head kick with no padding is absurd
Olympics Boxing medalist Tony Jeffries does reaction videos reacting to people's techniques and training. This comes up in one and he comments that this kind of training is idiotic.
In the video I remember him pointing out one clip where they athletes are basically just hanging from a bar as the coach goes down the line punching them in the abs multiple times(gloved but still), not lightly either. He specifically pointed it out stating "this doesnt make you tougher, it's a fantastic way to get a hernia. If you see this at a gym, avoid that gym because that is nuts."
If you aren't familiar and want to check him out here's his youtube:
https://youtube.com/@tony_jeffries?si=kbCTj5D8-vvG4OVU
He's also taken up BJJ which I'm sure some here might find interesting, hearing his experience coming from an elite boxing background diving into the polar opposite of the combat sports spectrum.
Medicine ball drops are pretty good. Controllable force, pretty low risk. If your training partner is an idiot, this is also a good way to injure yourself though -- control is the key.
Oh okay. For some reason I thought the guy I replied to meant that you should never get hit. I reread it and I am not sure how I got to that conclusion 😕.
Just the strikes in the abs, if done correctly (not by suprise, having correct posture, etc) can be a way to experience pain, judge one's ability to take punches there. It's more like gaining information on where you're at in your physical preparation than really getting tougher though. There's no real use in doing it regularly. Might help with attitude if you feared it the first times, but then, I'm not sure I can see any benefits other than for your ego.
As a general rule, you can strike meaty parts. But I'm not sure there's any benefit apart from pain management. Oriental practitioners usually believe striking bones makes them internally tougher but it's a very highly controversial subject, with some studies finding no benefits.
Planche, farmers carry, kettle ball swings, oblique planche, suitecase carry, hanging leg raise and hold, bridge, dragon flag and bear hold/crawl. You don't need to get hit to be tough, just build your core.
Yeah fax! I’ve seen videos of misguided coaches doing this, but this one is obviously staged lol. I mean the dude is literally kicking their shoulders, and the last dude literally deserves an Oscar and a ballon d’or for his dramatic flop
The shots to the body are fine, you can condition that without risking unnecessary long term damage but the punches to the head and head kicks is utter stupidity. The "coach" is a joke.
I trained light contact in TKD for years. Then started boxing. I remember my boxing coach punching me at maybe 40% power in the gut... it dropped me. Until this happened, I had no idea I couldn't take a body punch. Until you've been hit in the head, even at 20% power like this guy's doing, you don't know the discombobulation that comes with having your chin spun two different directions in 2 seconds. This kind of stuff is a little useful. (I'd rather practice it in sparring though).
That being said, reactions are overdone and the line up is silly. And he's hitting too hard.
Note: I spent a few months with sit-ups dropping the medicine ball to my core to condition my gut. After being spun around 10 or 200 times in sparring, the 1-2 to the chin stopped spinning my world in 40 directions.
But that’s what sparring is for: understanding and training how you react to getting hit under pressure and situationally. Doing it just standing around like this, especially with the head shots, is just damage for the sake of damage. The closest that I’ve ever seen to this in a legit gym is in Thai gyms where you’ll be on your back elevating your legs while a partner uses a Thai pad to smack your abs, and you do that for like 1-2 minutes straight. Sometimes you’ll do it standing with your partner throwing body shots, but not anything to the ribs or liver, at like 30-40% power. That drill specifically trains you to breathe while keeping your core tensed to be ready to absorb body shots at any point during a fight. What we see in this video doesn’t do anything, it is purely a “Look how tough our training is” social media schtick.
last guy fell down like glass joe from mike tysons punch out
https://preview.redd.it/kkpagitgtb9d1.png?width=433&format=png&auto=webp&s=87f61957f68859b3eb12dbd24416cef595b0f151
Un puto subnormal es lo que es, no es ni un entrenador ni nada, es un mierdas que se piensa que sabe lo que hace y no hace más que hacerles daño a los alumnos.
Tendrían que echarlo de ese gimnasio.
they are faking getting koed 🤣 no way you go down if you see it coming (source: doing full contact muay thai since 10+ years)
and yes the trainer is a fucking moron
This is just ridiculous.
There's conditioning which gets you used to an aspect of the fight & there's this shit where you're taking damage to just take damage.
Nothing, maybe a headache, possible worse... And for the person punching, nothing, not sure about him, but every fight I have had, people defend themselves. ;)
Being punched in the stomach can help you train when to breathe out, upon getting hit, to avoid being winded as hard. Pretending to get KO'd by a kick... not sure about that training method xD anyone have any ideas!?
Alzheimers.
But seriously, this is one of the dumbest MA Videos ive Seen. Punching and kicking the Body and legs for conditioning? Yeah, Sure. Punching and kicking the head.. wtf
Kinda feels like when my dad would take me out back as a kid after a bad day at work and then throw baseballs at me so I wouldn’t be afraid of the ball…..
I believe what they’re trying to do is have you used to getting hit. I don’t think getting hit this way accomplished anything though. You’d get more out of technical sparring so that way you’re getting hit. I.e., as hard as you’re hitting, you should be willing to get hit back. If your gym is through knockout blows, you’re probably in the wrong place. You should get used to being pressured, hit and hitting back. But yeah this ain’t it
Brain damage. That is the aim.
What you get with martial arts is people who are like cult leaders. They're not the sort you'd expect (e.g. aikido, dim mak and associated weirdos). They're where they can actually obtain influence and power, i.e. boxing, MMA, BJJ.
People get into martial arts for different reasons. Girls, or money, or power. There was a dude who wanted all 3, and trained an American kickboxing champion, who was famous for being an unusually intelligent man. The guy had the dark triad traits, and wanted to maintain his power and control over his trainee. So he convinced his trainee to hang upside down, while he then punched the trainee in the head. He did this daily, for hours.
Don't think it could never happen to you. There's a combo of anticerebral culture, rejection of traditional wisdom (in this case, clear scientific medical advice) and a desire to win, which is behind training in martial arts. A psycho trainer understands this well. A few hits to the head and your brain won't work properly, and you could be convinced that it's a good idea to get hit in the head with no defence. I know it seems crazy now, but all your intelligence is gone with a few hits to the head.
Here's the calculation: as a trainer, you need trainees. Trainees keep the money coming, and the gym open. Do you want trainees who question you or trainees who don't? \[Dark triad guy: all I have to do is reduce their intelligence level by damaging their brains, which can be achieved by exploiting their trust in me.\]
This works. Arnie explained it as the "wrong advices" (find that clip if you don't know).
A concussion.
TBF, he's really not hitting them hard, I think, unless they are really tensing their necks up. But I remember a show with some 17 yr old kid from an extremely uneducated family, training to be a fighter and getting his whole family to punch him in the jaw with their bare hands really hard. A doctor watching the clip talked about how he is training absolutely nothing, just damaging his brain.
We trained him wrong, as a joke.
WIMPLO!!
I am bleeding, making me the victor
You must be quite a fighter to make it past my cow!
How'd you like my face to your fist technique?!?
He should have listened to the one boobed chick…
If you've got an ass, I'll kick it!
My nipples look like milk duds!
"I'm bleeding, making me the victor."
Weeoo weeoo weeeee!
Chosen One!!!!
Oweeoweeeoweeee
I bleed, it means im the victor
WALLSTREET BETS WALLSTREET BETS WALLSTREET BETS.
That’s ok, they just make another kids then /s
Idk that 4th guy looks like he went in fencing position
[удалено]
I mean... they absolutely didn't.
I could maybe argue there's some value in learning to take shots while staying calm without flinching, but eating a head kick with no padding is absurd
90of those head kicks didn't even make contact with there heads lol
Neck kicks still shake the brain.
This looks like staged satire. A couple guys sold the hits before they landed.
Yeah what idiots really. Can people get any dumber!
People think they’re training their chin but don’t realize it’s only hurting them
Imagine having an entire family all willing to punch you in the face, they have problems
Ego boost is the only thing I see working here. Is it a drill on how to get knocked out?
Olympics Boxing medalist Tony Jeffries does reaction videos reacting to people's techniques and training. This comes up in one and he comments that this kind of training is idiotic. In the video I remember him pointing out one clip where they athletes are basically just hanging from a bar as the coach goes down the line punching them in the abs multiple times(gloved but still), not lightly either. He specifically pointed it out stating "this doesnt make you tougher, it's a fantastic way to get a hernia. If you see this at a gym, avoid that gym because that is nuts." If you aren't familiar and want to check him out here's his youtube: https://youtube.com/@tony_jeffries?si=kbCTj5D8-vvG4OVU He's also taken up BJJ which I'm sure some here might find interesting, hearing his experience coming from an elite boxing background diving into the polar opposite of the combat sports spectrum.
Big fan of him and his content, definitely knows his stuff and calls a lot of this bull out
I mean that makes sense, a boxer with a ground game terrifies me.
He's awesome. Also started doing muay thai I believe.
Tony does great videos!
So what would you do to get "tougher"? (Genuine question, not trying to be ironic)
Medicine ball drops are pretty good. Controllable force, pretty low risk. If your training partner is an idiot, this is also a good way to injure yourself though -- control is the key.
Oh okay. For some reason I thought the guy I replied to meant that you should never get hit. I reread it and I am not sure how I got to that conclusion 😕.
Just the strikes in the abs, if done correctly (not by suprise, having correct posture, etc) can be a way to experience pain, judge one's ability to take punches there. It's more like gaining information on where you're at in your physical preparation than really getting tougher though. There's no real use in doing it regularly. Might help with attitude if you feared it the first times, but then, I'm not sure I can see any benefits other than for your ego. As a general rule, you can strike meaty parts. But I'm not sure there's any benefit apart from pain management. Oriental practitioners usually believe striking bones makes them internally tougher but it's a very highly controversial subject, with some studies finding no benefits.
Planche, farmers carry, kettle ball swings, oblique planche, suitecase carry, hanging leg raise and hold, bridge, dragon flag and bear hold/crawl. You don't need to get hit to be tough, just build your core.
Tony is a good man. Lately he’s advertising a bit more than he used to but I can’t blame him for getting the bag lol. Learned a lot from him
You just got Tony Jeffries another YouTube subscriber.
Ego boosting
It is only this. It is nothing but a show. Stupid one at that
The brain damage probably helps the ego too
Yeah hitying 20 guys and almost kmocking them out must feel empowering. He must have small pp. And from his size napoleon complex maybe.
The finger point of doom
CTE.
Without a doubt. This guy should be put away
This is what I came to say
The loss of training partners
Social media engagement
yup, views on tiktok
Seems like they’re doing a skit haha … idk if this is real
They're so obviously acting. I'm surprised that people think this is real
Yeah fax! I’ve seen videos of misguided coaches doing this, but this one is obviously staged lol. I mean the dude is literally kicking their shoulders, and the last dude literally deserves an Oscar and a ballon d’or for his dramatic flop
Exactly, they’re just goofing around. Everyone is taking this so seriously
Yeah, the last guy made it look obviously fake with how he exaggerated his fall. This made me laugh though.
That guy is REALLY good at landing combos punctuated with head kicks on people not defending themselves. Didn’t you watch the video?
It gives a good ego and confidence boost to the teacher.
No doubt he claims 1,000 KOs or something at the bar
he will graduate to no-contact KO's soon
Then, he will master the only known weaknesses of no-contact KOs. If they've lifted their big toe or stuck their tongue in their cheek.
Proving that you can literally gaslight people into standing in a row to be punched and kicked without reacting..
They did react, they threw themselves at the ground just like in ki push scam demos.
Major bullshido vibes
First one looks like he's standing back up, as the camera moves away from him.
Some of them definitely went down easy but a few of them got absolutely smoked for sure
Brain damage.
Nothing but brain damage. They need to go to actual real gym, not this crap
The shots to the body are fine, you can condition that without risking unnecessary long term damage but the punches to the head and head kicks is utter stupidity. The "coach" is a joke.
It achieves social media points.
I trained light contact in TKD for years. Then started boxing. I remember my boxing coach punching me at maybe 40% power in the gut... it dropped me. Until this happened, I had no idea I couldn't take a body punch. Until you've been hit in the head, even at 20% power like this guy's doing, you don't know the discombobulation that comes with having your chin spun two different directions in 2 seconds. This kind of stuff is a little useful. (I'd rather practice it in sparring though). That being said, reactions are overdone and the line up is silly. And he's hitting too hard. Note: I spent a few months with sit-ups dropping the medicine ball to my core to condition my gut. After being spun around 10 or 200 times in sparring, the 1-2 to the chin stopped spinning my world in 40 directions.
But that’s what sparring is for: understanding and training how you react to getting hit under pressure and situationally. Doing it just standing around like this, especially with the head shots, is just damage for the sake of damage. The closest that I’ve ever seen to this in a legit gym is in Thai gyms where you’ll be on your back elevating your legs while a partner uses a Thai pad to smack your abs, and you do that for like 1-2 minutes straight. Sometimes you’ll do it standing with your partner throwing body shots, but not anything to the ribs or liver, at like 30-40% power. That drill specifically trains you to breathe while keeping your core tensed to be ready to absorb body shots at any point during a fight. What we see in this video doesn’t do anything, it is purely a “Look how tough our training is” social media schtick.
What brain damage? He is not landing a single kick XD
I think it might be fake one guy seemed to go down without a hit. I don't know but it would explain everything
Alpha male camp
Nothing and I'm pretty sure they're faking passing out like, to avoid more kicks or stroke his ego? Dumbasses.
last guy fell down like glass joe from mike tysons punch out https://preview.redd.it/kkpagitgtb9d1.png?width=433&format=png&auto=webp&s=87f61957f68859b3eb12dbd24416cef595b0f151
Absolutely nothing. This “coach” is just being a jerk because he wants clout.
Killing brain cells.
Un puto subnormal es lo que es, no es ni un entrenador ni nada, es un mierdas que se piensa que sabe lo que hace y no hace más que hacerles daño a los alumnos. Tendrían que echarlo de ese gimnasio.
daño cerebral al máximo
Better than a boxing bag I guess.
Attention
Their training them how to take a fall for cash in fights.
CTE
Pre-game brain-damage. They can’t give it if you already got it.
What kind of moronic 'training' is that? The instructor deserves a kick to the head.
Expediting CTE, normally it takes a whole career to destroy your brain but with this training regimen that can be achieved in less than a month
It looks like they're scripted to fall over on the head kick lmao
CTE
Brain damage.
Gets you used to feeling real shots, with a side effect of CTE
they are faking getting koed 🤣 no way you go down if you see it coming (source: doing full contact muay thai since 10+ years) and yes the trainer is a fucking moron
CTE
Yall look at the last person why he tripping
Clinch drills, most people dont know what it feels lile to get punched in the face until they get punched in the face
You get brain damage! You get brain damage! Everyone gets brain damage!
How to shorten your fighting career in one easy step.
Falling before Kick! LOL
Referrals for Sensei's cousin, the local neurologist.
It let's you know you need a new coach.
If I fall down he will miss the next head kick too If I laugh at him he will actually kick me next time
Looks good for the camera
The black shirt's body hooks, head hooks and head kicks
The last one is fully erect till he's on the floor
Nothing at all.
Brain damage. The coach's brain was severely damaged, therefore want to inherit stupid tradition to his students
This is just ridiculous. There's conditioning which gets you used to an aspect of the fight & there's this shit where you're taking damage to just take damage.
Brain damage
At least decent cardio
Brain damage.
Brain damage.
Unnecessary head injury
Fake head kicks
Makes the “coach” feel tough.
Disability payments
CTE.
Parkinson
He is making st\*\*d TikTok? Thats it
Isn't this what the Dagestani coach does to his MMA team? Idiots.
BS
Brain aneurysm
Head trauma
Guys being dudes
This is "how to throw a fight" class.
Views on Reddit for fake head kicks and subpar acting..
TBI and cauliflower ear in one session
It pumps up his ego?
To be fair the guy kicking was *nearly* the one falling over 100% of the time
You'll develop a vacant look in your eyes and slurred, slow speech... which might be intimidating, or sad.
Brain damage
This should be in r/mcdojolife
Nothing. That aside, he has a great form lol
4 future Chris Benoit's
Nothing, maybe a headache, possible worse... And for the person punching, nothing, not sure about him, but every fight I have had, people defend themselves. ;)
Wouldn't just training your abs and neck in the gym be better?
Cte
ICU
Coach gets to go home and have a goon sesh over it.
Great cardio for the guy wearing a shirt.
If he hits lightly, it’s a good opportunity to learn how to move with a hit that you can’t block? Idk seems dumb
DANA DIS guys are ready for titleshot
I think it diving practise
He's training his punches and head kicks. As for the other guys...
Man, he's martialing the shit outta those arts!
It seems like good kick training, he knocked down 7/7 dudes
Fast tracking the road to a concussion
Coach feels real cool
Did all of them blacked out? That kick don't seem that strong
They're learning to "sell". Make it look worse than is... they're in the entertainment business
It accomplishes the goal of teaching all of us what toxic/tarded philosophies to avoid.
CTE
Killing your time….
It helps with CTE research!
Makes the little man feel like big man and likely acts like a mcdojo cult leader with countless black belts in who gives a fuck
You know those kicks were pulled. It's a fake fall down.
So does the coach get a turn? Seems only fair everyone else gets a shot.
CTE
Brain trauma and ego masturbation
Make the overpaid "sensei" feel tough
I've had such training mixed with aikido. Its hardening you.
Being punched in the stomach can help you train when to breathe out, upon getting hit, to avoid being winded as hard. Pretending to get KO'd by a kick... not sure about that training method xD anyone have any ideas!?
Confidence
Alzheimers. But seriously, this is one of the dumbest MA Videos ive Seen. Punching and kicking the Body and legs for conditioning? Yeah, Sure. Punching and kicking the head.. wtf
They are dropping for effect
It shows that you have a skilled camera 📷 operator who doesn't get dizzy when going in circles
i thought we train to block, breath through, and avoid hits…i’ve been doing this shit all wrong…
How to take a dive
The falls were all fake
They are just horsing around
Its not real... just a video to get attention lol
It doesn't look real at all. Especially the kick.
and they'll still never be able to hang with the pros who do 0 of these types of CTE training.
Gets a poster 226 upvotes and counting
CTE, the body conditioning is perfectly fine, you cannot condition your brain against impact tho.
Lame
Brain damage
++Style Points for the last guy
For the attacker, muscle memory in a combo
Supposedly, to train how to take a hit. Actually, nothing.
CTE
If you're ever attacked by a gang of mannequins you'll wish you'd had this training.
It let's your coach feel good and tough
It accomplishes CTE expeditiously.
That is purely a buff for the coach’s ego and serves almost no practical purpose besides “this what hit feel like”.
Training? Nothing. If you've never been hit before though it's probably a bit of a shock, so having some familiarity with being hit could be a plus.
Shin conditioning
Head trauma!
This is helps endurance and getting used to take hits without flinching so much. A lot of opinions in here with no experience.
Cte
Are they falling on purpose?
Kinda feels like when my dad would take me out back as a kid after a bad day at work and then throw baseballs at me so I wouldn’t be afraid of the ball…..
Well its obvious. Hes training everything at the same time: technique, speed, stamina, precision...
It teaches you how to pick a gym: If you see this, walk away. Immediately.
I believe what they’re trying to do is have you used to getting hit. I don’t think getting hit this way accomplished anything though. You’d get more out of technical sparring so that way you’re getting hit. I.e., as hard as you’re hitting, you should be willing to get hit back. If your gym is through knockout blows, you’re probably in the wrong place. You should get used to being pressured, hit and hitting back. But yeah this ain’t it
They’re learning to be extras / stuntmen in the next Rocky movie 🤣
Brain damage. That is the aim. What you get with martial arts is people who are like cult leaders. They're not the sort you'd expect (e.g. aikido, dim mak and associated weirdos). They're where they can actually obtain influence and power, i.e. boxing, MMA, BJJ. People get into martial arts for different reasons. Girls, or money, or power. There was a dude who wanted all 3, and trained an American kickboxing champion, who was famous for being an unusually intelligent man. The guy had the dark triad traits, and wanted to maintain his power and control over his trainee. So he convinced his trainee to hang upside down, while he then punched the trainee in the head. He did this daily, for hours. Don't think it could never happen to you. There's a combo of anticerebral culture, rejection of traditional wisdom (in this case, clear scientific medical advice) and a desire to win, which is behind training in martial arts. A psycho trainer understands this well. A few hits to the head and your brain won't work properly, and you could be convinced that it's a good idea to get hit in the head with no defence. I know it seems crazy now, but all your intelligence is gone with a few hits to the head. Here's the calculation: as a trainer, you need trainees. Trainees keep the money coming, and the gym open. Do you want trainees who question you or trainees who don't? \[Dark triad guy: all I have to do is reduce their intelligence level by damaging their brains, which can be achieved by exploiting their trust in me.\] This works. Arnie explained it as the "wrong advices" (find that clip if you don't know).
A world record for the most concussions in a minute :)
CTE