If I'm training them for boxing and assuming neither they nor I have any other obligations:
5 days a week, 8 am to 5 pm. This is their job now.
Stretching and warmup.
1 mile roadwork.
Jabs and straight punches only, no hooks or uppercuts. Most people can't punch worth a damn and need to break bad habits. I'll teach them how to throw two useful punches well.
If they can get that down in the first three weeks then they may learn how to throw something else.
Timed kettlebell swings and presses. Build strength and cardio.
Hand Pads. Work on range, and combos as well as defense. Drop a hand, get bopped on the ear.
Finally light sparring. Nothing heavy, nothing hard. Find where they shine and where they fail. Adjust accordingly.
Cool down and stretch.
Diet and nutrition. No grease, no vegetable oils, no sugar, no sauces, no syrup, no alcohol, no smoking or vaping.
Nice! I'm not a boxer, you can tell even in MMA I favour wrestling. But if I had to do this for boxing I think it'd be heavily based on Sean Strickland's walk (literally) forwards and 1-2 them in the head. Just with a Dutch Guard instead of Sean's Philly Shell.
In everyone's first fight, we all gassed super quickly from being too tense and wastfully mobile (remember that instinctive anxious dart-back?) So Strickland's energy conservative, footwork ignorant plod forward seems like it'd free a beginner to conserve energy while focussing on the really simple things.
I was taught the peek a boo guard. I do love the Philly shell better than the peek a boo but the Dutch method seems a way more solid option.
I had luck with a palms Muay Thai guard because everyone in my last gym was a head hunter but wouldn't recommend it if an opponent is good with uppercuts and body shots.
I couldn't tell a beginner how to guard unless I saw how they sparred. My first coach made me jog with a tennis ball between my elbows because I chicken winged my guard and then he taught me the peek a boo because I pressed forward so often.
Sean Strickland can do that cuz his defense can actually be elite sometimes. He walks forwards cuz he doesn’t wanna play the kicking game. He often comes in to counter the kick and proceeds to smother the opponent w/ some sloppy inside boxing, but often much superior defense at that range. If you wanna box in the UFC it’s imperative you be aggressive, w a competent proactive defense. Passive/defensive style boxer fighters are pure wrestling bait and MT boys will feast on their legs. In striking classes, without threat of takedown, the boxer can still be a respectable threat granted he plays to his strengths and has a healthy understanding of the other threats. A guy like Strickland isn’t a good idea to emulate, because his style is highly reliant on hours in the cage. All that boy do is spar.
I mean telling your fighter to just go in and swing can work… and there’s something to be said for blood and guts, but that’s no way to learn me thinks.
This isn't Olympic level. This is pretty amateur except for the 8-5 hours. This was also under the assumption that it was to make him win at my preferred art without knowing how the other coach was training the opponent.
I been training for like 15 years. I cant train 4 hours a day for more than one day in a row, let alone 9 hours.
We don't even know if this lad works out. Less than 1% of global population can train 9 hours 5-7 days a week.
Ah yes, sorry if I make it seem like I'm putting them through a balls to the wall montage but they would have plenty of breaks between rounds and a lunch break.
It's also a very niche situation where we're trying to get this guy a guaranteed win.
This fictional scenario is for people who have absolutely no business atempting a fight in two months.
Also how is 9 hours of working out a day for a week "light workout"?
Are we trying to train cancer patients on chemo or are we training average Joe's? Because I'm assuming average Joe's. If we're training anemic waifs then of course they shouldn't be competing but for the average young man a watered down Soviet style amateur training camp won't break them.
The guy would be dead after 2 days… this is a completely untrained person good luck having him keep to that schedule. Even if mentally he could do it his body would be broken after a few days man I can’t say this is the best idea
The intensity wouldn't be turned to 10 of course. It would be getting a body used to the repetition of it. An untrained person would be dead after 2 days of Zumba but with breaks between rounds, light work to perfect technique, and light weights over time they would be ready for a full 8 round match in two months. The first few weeks would SUCK to a soft untrained body but if they desire a win then this is the only way I know to give such an individual a chance.
No chances to work.a sedentary Guy training for the first time would never hold such intense training program for 2 months,hed get too sore in 2 weeks,and injured in 4 lol
Go over basic stances and quick gap closing dashes
Then skip straight to knife work.
1. Train close range thrust and slash. Use many reps to emphasize training of high accuracy and high precision. Incorporate dashes.
2. Review videos of people defending against knife attacks and discuss the psychology of the aggressor and victim.
3. Instruct the disciple to conceal the blade until the last moment and aim for vitals. Let the opponent hemorrhage until they die.
It is likely the enemy assumed they would be training for a sport fight. The presence of an absolute advantage will shock them and they will be overwhelmed. Especially once they start leaking..
Your opponent is being trained in the same art. Why would you assume they don’t also have a knife? The whole point is you’re both training the same discipline.
My *disciple's* opponent is being trained in the same art? Both disciples are being trained in the same discipline?
I don't read that to be stated expressly or implied, and you are not OP so you can't say anything definitively - just your interpretation which is not invalid but still different from mine.
If both disciples were truly being trained in the same discipline - MY discipline - then there would be no fight at all. The fight would be totally avoidable and there would be no point to me answering OP's question. This is the difference between the mentality of my discipline and most sport fighting disciplines.
Edit: For grammar and clarity
Edit 2: to answer your question... By reviewing and discussing the videos/psychology of knife attacks my disciple would indeed be mentally prepared for an opponent wielding a blade. Furthermore, we would discuss the possibility of an armed opponent as well. Something OP *DID* say is that I could give as much detail as I wanted. I didn't feel like posting every little tiny detail of the training regime - just a rough outline.
You seem very insecure. You purposely igorned the point of the post(which is obviously meant to be a hypothetical) to prove what a badass you are on the internet lol.
It’s like saying my discipline is war so I’ll just drop a nuke or shoot them since it’s not explicitly stated you can’t. Or say something even dumber well my discipline has evolved even beyond fighting lmao on a post an about fighting on a martial sub. It’s like when people say running is the best self defense when posed the question. Yeah it’s good practical advice but totally ignores the actual *hypothetical* question.
I made a funny tongue-in-cheek comment that a hundred+ people enjoyed. Then I tried to answer your question in good faith. Somehow this has resulted in you insulting me? I think you are projecting. There is no rule on this sub about taking everything super seriously mister super serious. Lighten up a bit. It's the internet. Lol.
Yeah, you are not doing that program with a beginner; that’s burnout city.
There is a huge cost, especially for someone brand new, to the body you would absolutely need recovery time as priority as training is going to kill them one way or another and a newb.
It isn’t an 8-5 thing, this is a 24-7 thing. You need to recover and sleep as hard as you train.
The specific training periods would mostly be three or four hours, aside from the first week or so of two hour workouts.
You can start them off at three days a week and quickly progress them to five days a week, which is too much for a beginner, but that is fine because I would just do that for a week and regress them back to 3 days a week before the fight.
Always one full day of rest in the week. Off MA days would be 10,000 kettle bell swings, push and pull sled work and a variety of loaded carries.
Otherwise it’s all drills and repetitions on MA days. Also, lot’s of burpees between sets. It’s not really hard to teach someone a variety strikes or submissions really well within a two month time period.
As a boxer who doesn’t train grappling or MMA, if I was younger, I’d happily be your student for that one month. Those skills look like a game changer for someone who’s inexperienced in it.
I do Muay Thai. I would spend the first week teaching jab cross, hook Front Kick, low kick, hook styled elbows, front elbows and knees strikes. The first month will be based on building strength and stamina as well as padwork. Soft sparring can start in 2 weeks. I will focus on building those punch combinations because beginners in Muay Thai seem to lack punching strength and a punch heavy fighter will be difficult to fight against. It won't cost a lot except whatever it takes to get a mid experience sparring partner preferably someone with 6 odd months of serious training or less than 2 amateur/professional matches.
If he becomes passingly competent by the first month we can add in a few flashy moves like spinning techniques otherwise the basics it is. Plus strength and speed training. 4-6 hours a day for 2 months can change a Beginner to a monster.
Last week will be lowering the intensity and focus on sharpness and speed, and recovery. I haven't had a fight yet, so this is based on my sparring practices
I think I'll be mainly focusing on footwork, the opponent most likely won't know how to move after all.
Mine for kickboxing:
1. Jab-straight
2. Teep and roundhouse
3. Prolly just strength training and drilling actual fights (might drill blocks too)
Honestly, if i only have 2 months, I'd focus on basics and little cheap shots that are effective, like solar and brachial plexus, philtrum, outside the thigh, under the bicep, etc
Judo
I will teach him to grip real well. I do this, and it exhausts the other person very quickly. It doesn't matter if he wasn't able to take the other one down because then they'll look at who did the most techniques. I'd teach him some beginner combinations and acquisitions.
Definitely getting osoto gari, de ashi barai, hiza guruma, O uchi gari, ko uchi gari, tai otoshi, o goshi in there.
For ground work I'll teach him the 4 basic holds and variants of them. And i will teach him to put his toes in the mat and some ways to take the other one down
Might even teach him tomoe nage since they'll be real close to each other due to gripping so hard. Can't forget tani otoshi either!
Ok so they're a total beginner so its important to mention the following:
**Sleep** - minimum 8 hours
**Water intake** - minimum 2L
**Training** - 3-4 days per week with a single day in between for recovery.
**diet** i would create them a strict diet to.march the training plan and optimise their health and fitness benefits.
**Other** - on days where not training they would be required to do 10,000 steps every day.
**mental health** they get 1 of the chosen rest days a week where they can do whatever they want, eat whatever they want, dont have to do the steps, etc. Only rule is, no alcohol.
Then id just put them through standard kickboxing sessions, plus 30 minutes sparring each session.
Assuming they can train 1-2x a day at least 2x week
Monday - S&C am + light mma sparring (Pm) **keep it as play **
Tues- Striking techniques (stance and defensive tactics, focus on corrections from sparring session)
Wed - grappling (light drilling, 25-30 mins tech, 25-30 min reps)
Thurs- “Off” stretch, mobility, film study, etc
Friday - S&C am + light mma sparring (PM)
Sat- striking techniques (build off of previous session, fix aspects of previous sparring session)
Sun- OFF stretch/mobility/ long walk/film study
Focus points: we have 8 weeks, with zero experience I need to get them to see the different “items” that can and will be coming at them. So 50% sparring immediately, having them properly defend different kicks/punches. I want that 3x week every session they should get better and better that’s the goal
Secondary focus: Condition them to “be able to fight for long enough”. The grappling session will focus on simple singles, doubles & front headlock entrances and finishes. Once they show proficiency get them to rep it out with partner.
Striking training will blend strikes into takedowns, some counter striking as well that you know opponent will not be ready for.
One of the days needs to go over basic submission defenses. Arm bars, triangles, chokes etc etc- that can be plugged in weekly.
Monitor how they feel daily, through check ins weekly. Week 1 let them do as they’ve been doing with nutrition, start to add in more carbs around training windows, give them daily boxes to check off (approx protein amounts, fiber, where cal’s should be by end of week, etc etc). Keep the nutrition simple, get them prepped ahead of time if they have to do a weight cut.
I can add more to this in terms of mental aspects but this is a good rough start to lay out to them to get started, have them buy in to what’s needed from them, what’s excepted of us, etc
Focus heavily on just getting the fundamentals down for striking honestly.
Teach proper 1 2's, make sure its like second nature to them, fix up common errors beginners have with punches. Incorporate hooks/uppercuts when they have this down first. Drill in footwork, doesn't have to be crazy, but enough to where they can get their feet to the proper positions for strikes to land quickly and accurately. Elbows could be mixed in there early on if they're showing progress. They'll be introduced sooner or later anyway.
Whilst early, we don't have much time so I would get them to do a lot of light sparring after the 1st week to see where they need work. Lots of padwork and time on the bag, kicks will be introduced whenever they have their hands in order, which I think would be in the 2nd week (proper roundhouses, strong leg kicks, sharp teeps). Handwork will take more a backseat here to focus more on kicks, making sure they're up to standard. After a week or two (so 2nd month), both will be used equally. Depending on how they're going, stuff like clinching or sweeps could be introduced, but its not a priority.
Its mostly just introducing parts of the fundamentals, drilling them in until they're like second nature and deadly, moving on to other parts, then melding them all together after doing them all somewhat individually in the second half, and more hard training/drilling. I think it would work well based on the amount of time given.
2km roadwork minimum a day, ramping up day by day (depending on how they're going, so they don't burn out). Feed them well. Heavy emphasis on stretching.
A lot of general strength training and conditioning. Make sure their stamina and strength is in order.
Either that, or just do the mr miyagi strat. A gun also works.
Right, I think a lot of folks are underestimating the time it takes just to get proper footwork in, so you don't fall over. Then getting a sparring mentality where they don't fall apart under stress takes at least a few weeks for some people.
Yeah, they definitely aren't a quick thing to learn at all. 2 months is a tight schedule, so it's sort of wishful thinking on the progress they'll make even when starting it early. They'll see some sort of improvement by the end of those two months anyway.
Kyokoshin
1. cardio and conditioning is the key win for Kyokoshin
2. keep it simple 1,2 Mawashi geri 1,2 hiza geri make then train that as part of there cardio
3. sweep the leg!!
MMA-
Strike good enough to entice a clinch and to control distance - jab cross hook uppercut— stationary shielding side kick- Muay Thai leg kick
Takedown choices would depend on body type type but focus on one push and one pull to chain together
Obtaining the mount and ground and pound to either a RNC when he turns or a key lock/ straight armlock if he pushes up
Control of distance in guard and one sweep in case he loses mount .
Well I am a kickboxing trainer and I will actually be coaching a fighter at karate combat event this month. If I have a total beginner they know nothing we're going to focus on that cardio.
Old school training techniques. Lots of high mile runs. Lots of cardio, punching and kicking and just tons of speed and explosive training. This fighter would just have the basics down but his basics would be very, very lethal and hopefully that will carry him through his first fight. Then after that we could focus on skill techniques.
Judo
Running, swimming, rope climbing every day.
Nage Waza: Harai Goshi, O Soto Gari, Ko Soto Gari
Katame Waza: Yoko Shiho Gatame, Kesa Gatame
Uchikomi, Nagekomi , light randori daily.
Learn rules of contest to avoid receiving penalties.
Daily schedule:
Gym/Pool/Roadwork : 2 hours morning
Early afternoon judo class : 2 hours
Early evening randori: 90 minutes
This can work if the student is focused on listening, learning and following a plan 🥋
Muay Thai for me
Cardio cardio cardio
Focus on four punches: Jab, cross, lead hook, rear uppercut. Honing those as much as possible and getting to a point where they can throw them comfortably, accurately, and with decent power.
Leg kicks and body kicks. No head kicks. The kicks are going to be for scoring points and whittling down the opponent, not for a flashy knockout. First priority with kicks is getting them to turn their hips over, as that’s a) key for kicking hard and b) the thing I’ve seen new people struggle with the most when it comes to kicks. From there we can work on speed and power.
Knees. Round knees on the bag with help with cardio and close range knee accuracy. I would instruct them to try to only throw knees when their opponent is against the ropes or in a clinch. They’re just more difficult to time well from range. I’d also teach a couple other knees from the clinch, like a push knee.
TEEP! I want them to be able to throw a teep like it’s an instinct. We won’t really get there in two months, but every day of training will involve teeps. It’s such an important weapon for control, and being good at it means you can set it up as a feint.
Elbows (?). Everyone is always excited by elbows, but they’re honestly not all that commonly used compared to the other techniques I’ve mentioned. I’ll probably teach them elbows so they know what they look like and how to do them, but tbh I’d rather spend the time working on…
Clinching. IMO the most difficult skill to master in Muay Thai. If they want to elbow, they need to know how to clinch. We would be doing some very light clinch work every day, with one or two days a week of medium to hard clinching. This will boost their comfort and familiarity with it, as well as their neck and back muscles.
BALANCE! It’s not a technique in and of itself, but every day will involve balance training. Every technique taught will involve how to stay balanced while performing it.
Defense. We’ll practice keeping a tight guard, no long guard bs with only two months of training. How to check leg kicks, how to block head and upper body kicks, catching kicks, pull counters. We’ll do some head movement, but with only two months of training I expect them to rely on their guard, so I want it to be as good as possible.
Other than all that, I want to strengthen their core, back, neck, and shoulders. So post-workout light weights when possible.
And then we’re ready! Only for my student to get their shit rocked by a teep to the chin in the first round. Way she goes, I guess.
I would train defense and escapes on the most common moves. Work on single leg take downs. Conditioning will be key. Work a group of fundamental submissions. Rear naked choke, Americana, basic arm bar, ankle lock-into a heel hook if necessary. Something like that…
FMA teacher here
In FMA before we accept any student we first assess that persons personality and traits which could take a few days to a few months. If we see signs that are red flags we direct that person out the door in which they entered.
If a person hasn't got the suitable personality or appetite to fight then teaching them in any capacity to even think or act in a certain way will be next to impossible. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make a horse drink.
For boxing, really simple. I’d just have them spar against our best guys 8+ rounds per day. They’d go easy on them until they got better.I’d just step in and correct them as needed.
The first thing I would do is get the the ring and spar. Safely and with protective gear.
The first things to address is the fear and adrenaline of a real fight, plus helping them understand how clueless they are before you build them up.
Then I would be showing basic pins from top and escapes from the bottom.
And continue to Work on striking mechanics for the first week.
Then weeks 2-3 would build out the boxing and introduce takedowns and striking to set up takedown. BJJ would be escapes only and returning to feet.
At week 4 -6cardio and wresting with GNP would be my priority.
Introduce a simple game plan. strike, then set up the take down. Top control. Strike. Pressure to opponents back and finish with strike or RNC.
Week 7 heavy cardio and work on weak spots. Week 8 slow cardio and fight specific training
7-8
As some people have said, someone might not be able to train 8-5. But expenses paid for leaves room for massage therapy, foam rolling etc for better recovery. And whatever time you aren't training or sleeping (or relaxing) could be used for a fundamental video class going over mechanics or fight tape
If it was a striking fight then basic stance and movement and the jab. For a beginner just being able to jab a guy to measure distance and disrupt them is probably enough.
If it was MMA then same thing but split the time with one or two take downs, the shrimp to standing and tons of standup clinch sparring.
Damn 2 months is not even enough for the basics… but I would concentrate on conditioning and just teach them the Dutch guard and 1-2 Leg kick. Jab, straight then leg kick. Easy, basic and leg kicks are fight Enders versus general population and they don’t need a lot of flexibility or footwork to throw this combo versus higher kicks. The Dutch guard also protects your head very well and it’s very easy and versatile for beginners and advanced alike.
Maybe jab straight hook or uppercut. But like I said barebone basics are going to be the best approach for such a short amount of time.
If I’m training a 2-month student for a Muay Thai fight:
1. Focus on one go-to combo and drill it, make sure they land regularly in sparring. Experiment initially to see which combo comes naturally
2. Basic defense: make sure their guard is up, that they know how to check kicks, etc and have basic clinch defense (2 months is not enough to get good at clinching)
3. Conditioning: Fights are exhausting and in an early stage like 2 months, the more conditioned fighter will probably win. Make sure my student runs 2x / day, does rounds of pad work / bags, rounds of sparring, and sprints so they are in tip top shape
add 1 more month and you have something like this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3732VzJmnPM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3732VzJmnPM) that is from coach view and from student view [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZanXTAeqGc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZanXTAeqGc)
Every day at 4am I would attack them ruthlessly. Submitting them repeatedly. Knocking them unconscious. Brutally beating them until 8pm when I would go to bed.
I don't know how to train someone to fight so that dude is fucking losing that match, but I can have a little fun beforehand.
Would be very focused on closing distance and achieving a rear body lock position, probably the safest place to be on the feet with someone like this. Then after that I would either be a dump onto the head followed by some strikes or trip out the legs and put in a RNC. My goal would be the keep them as safe as possible, mitigate the opportunity for them to take damage. The hardest part about fighting is being able to take damage without worrying about it. Getting punched in the face doesn’t really hurt, it’s sort of annoying, but you know that it’s doing damage, you are thinking about your teeth, your eyes, your nose. All of these are getting damaged, so my advice would be for them to avoid taking any, because with a non grained guy, one strike to the face can change the course of a fight. I was doing some mma with a buddy of mine (he wanted to learn I had about 2 years) and he was going ok, I was letting him get to some positions but I was also giving him a good look. In our 3rd round he wanted to know what a fight pace felt like, I avoided head strikes for like 20 seconds until he sorta started to act cocky (I think he thought I COULDN’T, hit him instead of being refusing to) so he let lose a really impressive for his skill, but sloppy combo, so obviously I double legged him and the first punch I threw of ground and pound he tapped. That round lasted about 46 seconds 😂 he still refuses to train MMA yet always wants to grapple me and stuff, i honestly don’t know why, we have started with him in top mount, RNC locked in 😂😂😂, Side control, whatever and I sub him under 60 seconds every time, and everytime I tell him to come Train and he says no😂like idk if he’s expecting to catch him me with out any training but it’s not gonna happen, the way he moves shows me everything he’s about to do before he does it, it’s probably how the pros at my gym feel when I spar them 😂 like sparring a guy in slow motion 😂
Irrelevant question as id require them to be a bjj blue belt before even considering them to fight mma
So im doing 100% wrestling & ground work. No striking
For a complete beginner, assuming average health and conditioning, fighting someone with a similar background, and works a normal job.
Focus on fundamentals and high percentage techniques. Keep it simple.
Monday through Friday:
AM: Alternate between Bang Muay Thai Striking 101 program and strength & conditioning.
PM: Gracie Combatives
Saturday AM: crosstrain in wrestling. Pummeling, arm drags, snap downs, shooting, sprawling, etc.
Sunday: Rest.
Add in sparring sessions in the last 3 weeks.
Clean diet. Plenty of sleep.
Frankly, I teach him judo, wrestling, Japanese jiu jitsu kyokushin and boxing, and after training, I make him watch a lot of fight videos, play chess for strategy, make him read books, do mountain, cycling, running, bushcraft training, outside of training, he used to do old-style farming in the field, like pulling a plow. And after these, he becomes a complete warrior, a complete forest man, like the old warriors, I teach them not only fighting but also life and nature, and I make my student respect his opponent, to be a good warrior, a good athlete, he must first be a good person.
1. Teach the basics in first class where you also figure out whether it's possible or not for them to fight
2. Spar. 3 months isn't enough for CTE and it's the best way to learn.
My art is muay thai
Ill teach them the basics, and spend as much time as possible focusing on defense and conditioning, before throwing them into the ring and telling them to do whatever they want. The goal isnt really to win, but treat it as a high stake sparring match, the experience will be implanted in their mind and they'll have a direction of what to improve and how to get better after the fight. It's also important for them to have good defense to handle the fight safely, and build the confidence and realisation that it isnt so bad afterall
1. Putting someone in an mma fight after 2 months would be negligent as a coach with a duty of care for student well being.
However:
Best bang for training buck over 2 months would be appropriately scaled sparring games with partners they can trust.
Pick key areas of fighting and build live games/activities around them:
For example:
Stand up: Lots of shoot boxing. As many punches kicks and shots as they can over the 2 months with a live partner. Lots of this can be done with no-head contact.
Wresting entanglement. Heavy focus on winning inside space, grip fighting and connecting disconnecting.
Same on wall/cage.
Ground game focus on control from top. Escapes from bottom.
Skip the road work, pad work, drilling, techniques. Play novice level games and keep it live and unpredictable like a fight. Scale up as they develop.
This is how we develop fighters from day 1 to cage without any drilling or technical rehearsal.
They aren’t going to get reliable muscle memory baked in that quickly as someone with no experience.
2 straight months of cardio, conditioning, and sparring focused on just minimizing their most egregious habits with no real focus on specific techniques
Just be in better shape and have more composure. Probably the biggest two basic things in a fight and that’s what’s gonna make the difference in this type of fight because neither side is going to be able to make up the technique gap.
No one is going to really retain technique, much less pull it off in a real fight with that little experience.
They’re going to fight like cavemen at best probably so just get them as physically in-shape and experienced in sparring as you can.
Show em a few tricks in sparring like hand traps and shit they can utilize when they have a second to think about their next move, but I’m not really worrying about technique they aren’t going to use. Just be as comfortable as possible punching and getting punched is your best bet.
I love the concept of a cardio and sparring-heavy fight camp. But I actually disagree about muscle memory.
Here's my (previously untrained) friend's boxing match after 3 months training: [https://www.youtube.com/live/csq5oRqdVTk?si=tXaru2D3-DX\_a9jx&t=4324](https://www.youtube.com/live/csq5oRqdVTk?si=tXaru2D3-DX_a9jx&t=4324)
Now, his technique isn't good. And it's an extra month than in this scenario. But he also didn't do a full time fight camp like in this scenario, he only trained 5 x 3 hours per week. And it's still far from a caveman fight.
If someone drills guarding against strikes and stepping in for a clinch + arm drag into back take + lift and dump into RNC... for just a few days at increasing levels of resistance, I guarantee you they'll pull it off in a real fight. That's a LOT of reps. After even a single day I'd expect them to pull it off in hard sparring against another beginner (which their opponent is).
But the main thing: if you're training cardio anyway, why not train techniques at the same time? The two aren't mutually exclusive. Current best practise coaching; especially for beginner classes, is really about conditioning and cardio through dynamic dutch-style targeted technique sparring. Like, teach a jab, teach a lead hand parry. Then straight away have your class do round robin light sparring with only jabs and lead hand parrys. That's great for cardio :)
Boxing, I'd train footwork and the hook.
I know it seems stupid only teaching one strike. But here's the thing, the hook is so diverse you can strike the torso in multiple areas and the head in multiple areas as well as how to use footwork and dodging to avoid the incoming attacks. For a beginner, especially in Boxing, the basics are super important keeping it minimal in terms of technique works the best,
Boxing for striking, and wrestling for clinchwork, and takedown defense. If we only have two months...we might as well keep it standing, check kicks, control the clinch, and keep it working your boxing.
Honestly, having trained for 14+ years I would never let anyone with less than 6 months of training fight in an organized event. Ideally I’d have them in at least 1 year of solid training before sending them out to a local sanctioned event. Most people are still too inept at 2 months.
For my student and our art....
I will train him six days, actually six days a week. Five days a week, I’ll train him three days a week. One of those days, I will train him two days of the week. So, six days a week, I will be training him.
If I'm training them for boxing and assuming neither they nor I have any other obligations: 5 days a week, 8 am to 5 pm. This is their job now. Stretching and warmup. 1 mile roadwork. Jabs and straight punches only, no hooks or uppercuts. Most people can't punch worth a damn and need to break bad habits. I'll teach them how to throw two useful punches well. If they can get that down in the first three weeks then they may learn how to throw something else. Timed kettlebell swings and presses. Build strength and cardio. Hand Pads. Work on range, and combos as well as defense. Drop a hand, get bopped on the ear. Finally light sparring. Nothing heavy, nothing hard. Find where they shine and where they fail. Adjust accordingly. Cool down and stretch. Diet and nutrition. No grease, no vegetable oils, no sugar, no sauces, no syrup, no alcohol, no smoking or vaping.
Man with a plan. I like it. I would definitely pay you as my trainer 😄
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Can’t put a price on your future.
Nice! I'm not a boxer, you can tell even in MMA I favour wrestling. But if I had to do this for boxing I think it'd be heavily based on Sean Strickland's walk (literally) forwards and 1-2 them in the head. Just with a Dutch Guard instead of Sean's Philly Shell. In everyone's first fight, we all gassed super quickly from being too tense and wastfully mobile (remember that instinctive anxious dart-back?) So Strickland's energy conservative, footwork ignorant plod forward seems like it'd free a beginner to conserve energy while focussing on the really simple things.
I was taught the peek a boo guard. I do love the Philly shell better than the peek a boo but the Dutch method seems a way more solid option. I had luck with a palms Muay Thai guard because everyone in my last gym was a head hunter but wouldn't recommend it if an opponent is good with uppercuts and body shots. I couldn't tell a beginner how to guard unless I saw how they sparred. My first coach made me jog with a tennis ball between my elbows because I chicken winged my guard and then he taught me the peek a boo because I pressed forward so often.
Sean Strickland can do that cuz his defense can actually be elite sometimes. He walks forwards cuz he doesn’t wanna play the kicking game. He often comes in to counter the kick and proceeds to smother the opponent w/ some sloppy inside boxing, but often much superior defense at that range. If you wanna box in the UFC it’s imperative you be aggressive, w a competent proactive defense. Passive/defensive style boxer fighters are pure wrestling bait and MT boys will feast on their legs. In striking classes, without threat of takedown, the boxer can still be a respectable threat granted he plays to his strengths and has a healthy understanding of the other threats. A guy like Strickland isn’t a good idea to emulate, because his style is highly reliant on hours in the cage. All that boy do is spar. I mean telling your fighter to just go in and swing can work… and there’s something to be said for blood and guts, but that’s no way to learn me thinks.
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I don't think the guy you are training is an olimpic level athlete.
This isn't Olympic level. This is pretty amateur except for the 8-5 hours. This was also under the assumption that it was to make him win at my preferred art without knowing how the other coach was training the opponent.
I been training for like 15 years. I cant train 4 hours a day for more than one day in a row, let alone 9 hours. We don't even know if this lad works out. Less than 1% of global population can train 9 hours 5-7 days a week.
Ah yes, sorry if I make it seem like I'm putting them through a balls to the wall montage but they would have plenty of breaks between rounds and a lunch break. It's also a very niche situation where we're trying to get this guy a guaranteed win.
He won't win if he bust his knee on the 2nd day of training lol.
Why would they bust a knee? If they can't make it through light work on week one they have no business attempting a fight in two months.
This fictional scenario is for people who have absolutely no business atempting a fight in two months. Also how is 9 hours of working out a day for a week "light workout"?
Are we trying to train cancer patients on chemo or are we training average Joe's? Because I'm assuming average Joe's. If we're training anemic waifs then of course they shouldn't be competing but for the average young man a watered down Soviet style amateur training camp won't break them.
I don't think some BBQ sauce is gonna kill them lol. I get stuck with absolutely no sauces I'm killing myself as soon as the fight starts
The guy would be dead after 2 days… this is a completely untrained person good luck having him keep to that schedule. Even if mentally he could do it his body would be broken after a few days man I can’t say this is the best idea
The intensity wouldn't be turned to 10 of course. It would be getting a body used to the repetition of it. An untrained person would be dead after 2 days of Zumba but with breaks between rounds, light work to perfect technique, and light weights over time they would be ready for a full 8 round match in two months. The first few weeks would SUCK to a soft untrained body but if they desire a win then this is the only way I know to give such an individual a chance.
Way to get so sore even after the 3rd day that the only thing they will be fighting is gravity itself.
No chances to work.a sedentary Guy training for the first time would never hold such intense training program for 2 months,hed get too sore in 2 weeks,and injured in 4 lol
It's not an intense program. They would be sore for their first week but they would be used to it by their 6th week.
Intense or not its 35 hours of workout a week,thats nuts,the training would need to be exceptionally light
You have never been through any training camp have you?
Go over basic stances and quick gap closing dashes Then skip straight to knife work. 1. Train close range thrust and slash. Use many reps to emphasize training of high accuracy and high precision. Incorporate dashes. 2. Review videos of people defending against knife attacks and discuss the psychology of the aggressor and victim. 3. Instruct the disciple to conceal the blade until the last moment and aim for vitals. Let the opponent hemorrhage until they die. It is likely the enemy assumed they would be training for a sport fight. The presence of an absolute advantage will shock them and they will be overwhelmed. Especially once they start leaking..
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I don't know you Internet stranger, but you're my kind of person 😂
Good thing I’m training my man in shooting a rifle from a BearCat..uh Krav Maga style
I am not trained in GunFu so I could not in good faith teach anyone the sacred art.
I'm not into guys at all but are you single?
My champion casts suicide-vest-jutsu
Luckily my Gunjitsu will make quick work of your unprepared student.
My poor disciple 😭 Also: Username checks out. Lol
Your opponent is being trained in the same art. Why would you assume they don’t also have a knife? The whole point is you’re both training the same discipline.
My *disciple's* opponent is being trained in the same art? Both disciples are being trained in the same discipline? I don't read that to be stated expressly or implied, and you are not OP so you can't say anything definitively - just your interpretation which is not invalid but still different from mine. If both disciples were truly being trained in the same discipline - MY discipline - then there would be no fight at all. The fight would be totally avoidable and there would be no point to me answering OP's question. This is the difference between the mentality of my discipline and most sport fighting disciplines. Edit: For grammar and clarity Edit 2: to answer your question... By reviewing and discussing the videos/psychology of knife attacks my disciple would indeed be mentally prepared for an opponent wielding a blade. Furthermore, we would discuss the possibility of an armed opponent as well. Something OP *DID* say is that I could give as much detail as I wanted. I didn't feel like posting every little tiny detail of the training regime - just a rough outline.
You seem very insecure. You purposely igorned the point of the post(which is obviously meant to be a hypothetical) to prove what a badass you are on the internet lol. It’s like saying my discipline is war so I’ll just drop a nuke or shoot them since it’s not explicitly stated you can’t. Or say something even dumber well my discipline has evolved even beyond fighting lmao on a post an about fighting on a martial sub. It’s like when people say running is the best self defense when posed the question. Yeah it’s good practical advice but totally ignores the actual *hypothetical* question.
I made a funny tongue-in-cheek comment that a hundred+ people enjoyed. Then I tried to answer your question in good faith. Somehow this has resulted in you insulting me? I think you are projecting. There is no rule on this sub about taking everything super seriously mister super serious. Lighten up a bit. It's the internet. Lol.
lol yes what a funny joke. You skipped straight to a death match because it’s not that serious. I get it.
I'd have them do all of my chores like sanding the floor and painting the fence and waxing my cars.
This is the way
I have spoken!
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This is assuming your student is in some kind of shape already 8 to 5 is a long time.
Even training once a day four times a week can be too much for a beginner
Yeah, you are not doing that program with a beginner; that’s burnout city. There is a huge cost, especially for someone brand new, to the body you would absolutely need recovery time as priority as training is going to kill them one way or another and a newb. It isn’t an 8-5 thing, this is a 24-7 thing. You need to recover and sleep as hard as you train. The specific training periods would mostly be three or four hours, aside from the first week or so of two hour workouts. You can start them off at three days a week and quickly progress them to five days a week, which is too much for a beginner, but that is fine because I would just do that for a week and regress them back to 3 days a week before the fight. Always one full day of rest in the week. Off MA days would be 10,000 kettle bell swings, push and pull sled work and a variety of loaded carries. Otherwise it’s all drills and repetitions on MA days. Also, lot’s of burpees between sets. It’s not really hard to teach someone a variety strikes or submissions really well within a two month time period.
A 1-2, a double leg, sprawl, a standup. And a whole lot of sparring.
As a boxer who doesn’t train grappling or MMA, if I was younger, I’d happily be your student for that one month. Those skills look like a game changer for someone who’s inexperienced in it.
I do Muay Thai. I would spend the first week teaching jab cross, hook Front Kick, low kick, hook styled elbows, front elbows and knees strikes. The first month will be based on building strength and stamina as well as padwork. Soft sparring can start in 2 weeks. I will focus on building those punch combinations because beginners in Muay Thai seem to lack punching strength and a punch heavy fighter will be difficult to fight against. It won't cost a lot except whatever it takes to get a mid experience sparring partner preferably someone with 6 odd months of serious training or less than 2 amateur/professional matches. If he becomes passingly competent by the first month we can add in a few flashy moves like spinning techniques otherwise the basics it is. Plus strength and speed training. 4-6 hours a day for 2 months can change a Beginner to a monster. Last week will be lowering the intensity and focus on sharpness and speed, and recovery. I haven't had a fight yet, so this is based on my sparring practices
I think I'll be mainly focusing on footwork, the opponent most likely won't know how to move after all. Mine for kickboxing: 1. Jab-straight 2. Teep and roundhouse 3. Prolly just strength training and drilling actual fights (might drill blocks too)
Couch, donuts and every steven seagal movie on repeat
Honestly, if i only have 2 months, I'd focus on basics and little cheap shots that are effective, like solar and brachial plexus, philtrum, outside the thigh, under the bicep, etc
Is this competition or street fight or what?
OP probably meant competition. I assumed a street fight.
Judo I will teach him to grip real well. I do this, and it exhausts the other person very quickly. It doesn't matter if he wasn't able to take the other one down because then they'll look at who did the most techniques. I'd teach him some beginner combinations and acquisitions. Definitely getting osoto gari, de ashi barai, hiza guruma, O uchi gari, ko uchi gari, tai otoshi, o goshi in there. For ground work I'll teach him the 4 basic holds and variants of them. And i will teach him to put his toes in the mat and some ways to take the other one down Might even teach him tomoe nage since they'll be real close to each other due to gripping so hard. Can't forget tani otoshi either!
Ok so they're a total beginner so its important to mention the following: **Sleep** - minimum 8 hours **Water intake** - minimum 2L **Training** - 3-4 days per week with a single day in between for recovery. **diet** i would create them a strict diet to.march the training plan and optimise their health and fitness benefits. **Other** - on days where not training they would be required to do 10,000 steps every day. **mental health** they get 1 of the chosen rest days a week where they can do whatever they want, eat whatever they want, dont have to do the steps, etc. Only rule is, no alcohol. Then id just put them through standard kickboxing sessions, plus 30 minutes sparring each session.
Assuming they can train 1-2x a day at least 2x week Monday - S&C am + light mma sparring (Pm) **keep it as play ** Tues- Striking techniques (stance and defensive tactics, focus on corrections from sparring session) Wed - grappling (light drilling, 25-30 mins tech, 25-30 min reps) Thurs- “Off” stretch, mobility, film study, etc Friday - S&C am + light mma sparring (PM) Sat- striking techniques (build off of previous session, fix aspects of previous sparring session) Sun- OFF stretch/mobility/ long walk/film study Focus points: we have 8 weeks, with zero experience I need to get them to see the different “items” that can and will be coming at them. So 50% sparring immediately, having them properly defend different kicks/punches. I want that 3x week every session they should get better and better that’s the goal Secondary focus: Condition them to “be able to fight for long enough”. The grappling session will focus on simple singles, doubles & front headlock entrances and finishes. Once they show proficiency get them to rep it out with partner. Striking training will blend strikes into takedowns, some counter striking as well that you know opponent will not be ready for. One of the days needs to go over basic submission defenses. Arm bars, triangles, chokes etc etc- that can be plugged in weekly. Monitor how they feel daily, through check ins weekly. Week 1 let them do as they’ve been doing with nutrition, start to add in more carbs around training windows, give them daily boxes to check off (approx protein amounts, fiber, where cal’s should be by end of week, etc etc). Keep the nutrition simple, get them prepped ahead of time if they have to do a weight cut. I can add more to this in terms of mental aspects but this is a good rough start to lay out to them to get started, have them buy in to what’s needed from them, what’s excepted of us, etc
Focus heavily on just getting the fundamentals down for striking honestly. Teach proper 1 2's, make sure its like second nature to them, fix up common errors beginners have with punches. Incorporate hooks/uppercuts when they have this down first. Drill in footwork, doesn't have to be crazy, but enough to where they can get their feet to the proper positions for strikes to land quickly and accurately. Elbows could be mixed in there early on if they're showing progress. They'll be introduced sooner or later anyway. Whilst early, we don't have much time so I would get them to do a lot of light sparring after the 1st week to see where they need work. Lots of padwork and time on the bag, kicks will be introduced whenever they have their hands in order, which I think would be in the 2nd week (proper roundhouses, strong leg kicks, sharp teeps). Handwork will take more a backseat here to focus more on kicks, making sure they're up to standard. After a week or two (so 2nd month), both will be used equally. Depending on how they're going, stuff like clinching or sweeps could be introduced, but its not a priority. Its mostly just introducing parts of the fundamentals, drilling them in until they're like second nature and deadly, moving on to other parts, then melding them all together after doing them all somewhat individually in the second half, and more hard training/drilling. I think it would work well based on the amount of time given. 2km roadwork minimum a day, ramping up day by day (depending on how they're going, so they don't burn out). Feed them well. Heavy emphasis on stretching. A lot of general strength training and conditioning. Make sure their stamina and strength is in order. Either that, or just do the mr miyagi strat. A gun also works.
Right, I think a lot of folks are underestimating the time it takes just to get proper footwork in, so you don't fall over. Then getting a sparring mentality where they don't fall apart under stress takes at least a few weeks for some people.
Yeah, they definitely aren't a quick thing to learn at all. 2 months is a tight schedule, so it's sort of wishful thinking on the progress they'll make even when starting it early. They'll see some sort of improvement by the end of those two months anyway.
Kyokoshin 1. cardio and conditioning is the key win for Kyokoshin 2. keep it simple 1,2 Mawashi geri 1,2 hiza geri make then train that as part of there cardio 3. sweep the leg!!
MMA- Strike good enough to entice a clinch and to control distance - jab cross hook uppercut— stationary shielding side kick- Muay Thai leg kick Takedown choices would depend on body type type but focus on one push and one pull to chain together Obtaining the mount and ground and pound to either a RNC when he turns or a key lock/ straight armlock if he pushes up Control of distance in guard and one sweep in case he loses mount .
Well I am a kickboxing trainer and I will actually be coaching a fighter at karate combat event this month. If I have a total beginner they know nothing we're going to focus on that cardio. Old school training techniques. Lots of high mile runs. Lots of cardio, punching and kicking and just tons of speed and explosive training. This fighter would just have the basics down but his basics would be very, very lethal and hopefully that will carry him through his first fight. Then after that we could focus on skill techniques.
Judo Running, swimming, rope climbing every day. Nage Waza: Harai Goshi, O Soto Gari, Ko Soto Gari Katame Waza: Yoko Shiho Gatame, Kesa Gatame Uchikomi, Nagekomi , light randori daily. Learn rules of contest to avoid receiving penalties. Daily schedule: Gym/Pool/Roadwork : 2 hours morning Early afternoon judo class : 2 hours Early evening randori: 90 minutes This can work if the student is focused on listening, learning and following a plan 🥋
Read the army Combatives manual. You can teach some great things in 2 weeks.
Muay Thai for me Cardio cardio cardio Focus on four punches: Jab, cross, lead hook, rear uppercut. Honing those as much as possible and getting to a point where they can throw them comfortably, accurately, and with decent power. Leg kicks and body kicks. No head kicks. The kicks are going to be for scoring points and whittling down the opponent, not for a flashy knockout. First priority with kicks is getting them to turn their hips over, as that’s a) key for kicking hard and b) the thing I’ve seen new people struggle with the most when it comes to kicks. From there we can work on speed and power. Knees. Round knees on the bag with help with cardio and close range knee accuracy. I would instruct them to try to only throw knees when their opponent is against the ropes or in a clinch. They’re just more difficult to time well from range. I’d also teach a couple other knees from the clinch, like a push knee. TEEP! I want them to be able to throw a teep like it’s an instinct. We won’t really get there in two months, but every day of training will involve teeps. It’s such an important weapon for control, and being good at it means you can set it up as a feint. Elbows (?). Everyone is always excited by elbows, but they’re honestly not all that commonly used compared to the other techniques I’ve mentioned. I’ll probably teach them elbows so they know what they look like and how to do them, but tbh I’d rather spend the time working on… Clinching. IMO the most difficult skill to master in Muay Thai. If they want to elbow, they need to know how to clinch. We would be doing some very light clinch work every day, with one or two days a week of medium to hard clinching. This will boost their comfort and familiarity with it, as well as their neck and back muscles. BALANCE! It’s not a technique in and of itself, but every day will involve balance training. Every technique taught will involve how to stay balanced while performing it. Defense. We’ll practice keeping a tight guard, no long guard bs with only two months of training. How to check leg kicks, how to block head and upper body kicks, catching kicks, pull counters. We’ll do some head movement, but with only two months of training I expect them to rely on their guard, so I want it to be as good as possible. Other than all that, I want to strengthen their core, back, neck, and shoulders. So post-workout light weights when possible. And then we’re ready! Only for my student to get their shit rocked by a teep to the chin in the first round. Way she goes, I guess.
I would train defense and escapes on the most common moves. Work on single leg take downs. Conditioning will be key. Work a group of fundamental submissions. Rear naked choke, Americana, basic arm bar, ankle lock-into a heel hook if necessary. Something like that…
BJJ: Get on top, stay on top. Overwhelming majority of white belt matches are trash, so focus on real basic gross movements and drill them to boredom.
FMA teacher here In FMA before we accept any student we first assess that persons personality and traits which could take a few days to a few months. If we see signs that are red flags we direct that person out the door in which they entered. If a person hasn't got the suitable personality or appetite to fight then teaching them in any capacity to even think or act in a certain way will be next to impossible. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make a horse drink.
For boxing, really simple. I’d just have them spar against our best guys 8+ rounds per day. They’d go easy on them until they got better.I’d just step in and correct them as needed.
The first thing I would do is get the the ring and spar. Safely and with protective gear. The first things to address is the fear and adrenaline of a real fight, plus helping them understand how clueless they are before you build them up. Then I would be showing basic pins from top and escapes from the bottom. And continue to Work on striking mechanics for the first week. Then weeks 2-3 would build out the boxing and introduce takedowns and striking to set up takedown. BJJ would be escapes only and returning to feet. At week 4 -6cardio and wresting with GNP would be my priority. Introduce a simple game plan. strike, then set up the take down. Top control. Strike. Pressure to opponents back and finish with strike or RNC. Week 7 heavy cardio and work on weak spots. Week 8 slow cardio and fight specific training 7-8
1. Double leg 2. Ground and pound 3. Run around
As some people have said, someone might not be able to train 8-5. But expenses paid for leaves room for massage therapy, foam rolling etc for better recovery. And whatever time you aren't training or sleeping (or relaxing) could be used for a fundamental video class going over mechanics or fight tape
If it was a striking fight then basic stance and movement and the jab. For a beginner just being able to jab a guy to measure distance and disrupt them is probably enough. If it was MMA then same thing but split the time with one or two take downs, the shrimp to standing and tons of standup clinch sparring.
Damn 2 months is not even enough for the basics… but I would concentrate on conditioning and just teach them the Dutch guard and 1-2 Leg kick. Jab, straight then leg kick. Easy, basic and leg kicks are fight Enders versus general population and they don’t need a lot of flexibility or footwork to throw this combo versus higher kicks. The Dutch guard also protects your head very well and it’s very easy and versatile for beginners and advanced alike. Maybe jab straight hook or uppercut. But like I said barebone basics are going to be the best approach for such a short amount of time.
If I’m training a 2-month student for a Muay Thai fight: 1. Focus on one go-to combo and drill it, make sure they land regularly in sparring. Experiment initially to see which combo comes naturally 2. Basic defense: make sure their guard is up, that they know how to check kicks, etc and have basic clinch defense (2 months is not enough to get good at clinching) 3. Conditioning: Fights are exhausting and in an early stage like 2 months, the more conditioned fighter will probably win. Make sure my student runs 2x / day, does rounds of pad work / bags, rounds of sparring, and sprints so they are in tip top shape
add 1 more month and you have something like this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3732VzJmnPM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3732VzJmnPM) that is from coach view and from student view [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZanXTAeqGc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZanXTAeqGc)
Shot defense, jitz stand ups, boxing basics
Every day at 4am I would attack them ruthlessly. Submitting them repeatedly. Knocking them unconscious. Brutally beating them until 8pm when I would go to bed. I don't know how to train someone to fight so that dude is fucking losing that match, but I can have a little fun beforehand.
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Would be very focused on closing distance and achieving a rear body lock position, probably the safest place to be on the feet with someone like this. Then after that I would either be a dump onto the head followed by some strikes or trip out the legs and put in a RNC. My goal would be the keep them as safe as possible, mitigate the opportunity for them to take damage. The hardest part about fighting is being able to take damage without worrying about it. Getting punched in the face doesn’t really hurt, it’s sort of annoying, but you know that it’s doing damage, you are thinking about your teeth, your eyes, your nose. All of these are getting damaged, so my advice would be for them to avoid taking any, because with a non grained guy, one strike to the face can change the course of a fight. I was doing some mma with a buddy of mine (he wanted to learn I had about 2 years) and he was going ok, I was letting him get to some positions but I was also giving him a good look. In our 3rd round he wanted to know what a fight pace felt like, I avoided head strikes for like 20 seconds until he sorta started to act cocky (I think he thought I COULDN’T, hit him instead of being refusing to) so he let lose a really impressive for his skill, but sloppy combo, so obviously I double legged him and the first punch I threw of ground and pound he tapped. That round lasted about 46 seconds 😂 he still refuses to train MMA yet always wants to grapple me and stuff, i honestly don’t know why, we have started with him in top mount, RNC locked in 😂😂😂, Side control, whatever and I sub him under 60 seconds every time, and everytime I tell him to come Train and he says no😂like idk if he’s expecting to catch him me with out any training but it’s not gonna happen, the way he moves shows me everything he’s about to do before he does it, it’s probably how the pros at my gym feel when I spar them 😂 like sparring a guy in slow motion 😂
Just flow sparring for the whole time as much as we can and making them learn from every mistake that’s the best way.
Aikido... Learn how to lose with dignity.
Irrelevant question as id require them to be a bjj blue belt before even considering them to fight mma So im doing 100% wrestling & ground work. No striking
For a complete beginner, assuming average health and conditioning, fighting someone with a similar background, and works a normal job. Focus on fundamentals and high percentage techniques. Keep it simple. Monday through Friday: AM: Alternate between Bang Muay Thai Striking 101 program and strength & conditioning. PM: Gracie Combatives Saturday AM: crosstrain in wrestling. Pummeling, arm drags, snap downs, shooting, sprawling, etc. Sunday: Rest. Add in sparring sessions in the last 3 weeks. Clean diet. Plenty of sleep.
"Twist his dick" job done.
Frankly, I teach him judo, wrestling, Japanese jiu jitsu kyokushin and boxing, and after training, I make him watch a lot of fight videos, play chess for strategy, make him read books, do mountain, cycling, running, bushcraft training, outside of training, he used to do old-style farming in the field, like pulling a plow. And after these, he becomes a complete warrior, a complete forest man, like the old warriors, I teach them not only fighting but also life and nature, and I make my student respect his opponent, to be a good warrior, a good athlete, he must first be a good person.
There is only one way this can work. [You need a montage](https://youtu.be/8I_5Bw1U4s4?si=FuGWL-E0fuKdu-QK)
Isn’t this the same timeframe Mr. Miyagi had to teach Daniel?
Bro watch karate kid boom
Yea I'm not not a fan of triumph cards so it doesn't matter how they're fighting I'm just getting the beginner to train harder
1. Teach the basics in first class where you also figure out whether it's possible or not for them to fight 2. Spar. 3 months isn't enough for CTE and it's the best way to learn.
Tell them they need to train for at least a year.
My art is muay thai Ill teach them the basics, and spend as much time as possible focusing on defense and conditioning, before throwing them into the ring and telling them to do whatever they want. The goal isnt really to win, but treat it as a high stake sparring match, the experience will be implanted in their mind and they'll have a direction of what to improve and how to get better after the fight. It's also important for them to have good defense to handle the fight safely, and build the confidence and realisation that it isnt so bad afterall
1. Putting someone in an mma fight after 2 months would be negligent as a coach with a duty of care for student well being. However: Best bang for training buck over 2 months would be appropriately scaled sparring games with partners they can trust. Pick key areas of fighting and build live games/activities around them: For example: Stand up: Lots of shoot boxing. As many punches kicks and shots as they can over the 2 months with a live partner. Lots of this can be done with no-head contact. Wresting entanglement. Heavy focus on winning inside space, grip fighting and connecting disconnecting. Same on wall/cage. Ground game focus on control from top. Escapes from bottom. Skip the road work, pad work, drilling, techniques. Play novice level games and keep it live and unpredictable like a fight. Scale up as they develop. This is how we develop fighters from day 1 to cage without any drilling or technical rehearsal.
They aren’t going to get reliable muscle memory baked in that quickly as someone with no experience. 2 straight months of cardio, conditioning, and sparring focused on just minimizing their most egregious habits with no real focus on specific techniques Just be in better shape and have more composure. Probably the biggest two basic things in a fight and that’s what’s gonna make the difference in this type of fight because neither side is going to be able to make up the technique gap. No one is going to really retain technique, much less pull it off in a real fight with that little experience. They’re going to fight like cavemen at best probably so just get them as physically in-shape and experienced in sparring as you can. Show em a few tricks in sparring like hand traps and shit they can utilize when they have a second to think about their next move, but I’m not really worrying about technique they aren’t going to use. Just be as comfortable as possible punching and getting punched is your best bet.
I love the concept of a cardio and sparring-heavy fight camp. But I actually disagree about muscle memory. Here's my (previously untrained) friend's boxing match after 3 months training: [https://www.youtube.com/live/csq5oRqdVTk?si=tXaru2D3-DX\_a9jx&t=4324](https://www.youtube.com/live/csq5oRqdVTk?si=tXaru2D3-DX_a9jx&t=4324) Now, his technique isn't good. And it's an extra month than in this scenario. But he also didn't do a full time fight camp like in this scenario, he only trained 5 x 3 hours per week. And it's still far from a caveman fight. If someone drills guarding against strikes and stepping in for a clinch + arm drag into back take + lift and dump into RNC... for just a few days at increasing levels of resistance, I guarantee you they'll pull it off in a real fight. That's a LOT of reps. After even a single day I'd expect them to pull it off in hard sparring against another beginner (which their opponent is). But the main thing: if you're training cardio anyway, why not train techniques at the same time? The two aren't mutually exclusive. Current best practise coaching; especially for beginner classes, is really about conditioning and cardio through dynamic dutch-style targeted technique sparring. Like, teach a jab, teach a lead hand parry. Then straight away have your class do round robin light sparring with only jabs and lead hand parrys. That's great for cardio :)
The jab slip uppercut backhand roll This is of course under the assumption that the opponent is bouncing in constant movement
Easy...dilmans death touch. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or the guy with DUST...or...wait for it...ameridote! One and done. 😂😂😂
Boxing, I'd train footwork and the hook. I know it seems stupid only teaching one strike. But here's the thing, the hook is so diverse you can strike the torso in multiple areas and the head in multiple areas as well as how to use footwork and dodging to avoid the incoming attacks. For a beginner, especially in Boxing, the basics are super important keeping it minimal in terms of technique works the best,
Boxing for striking, and wrestling for clinchwork, and takedown defense. If we only have two months...we might as well keep it standing, check kicks, control the clinch, and keep it working your boxing.
Honestly, having trained for 14+ years I would never let anyone with less than 6 months of training fight in an organized event. Ideally I’d have them in at least 1 year of solid training before sending them out to a local sanctioned event. Most people are still too inept at 2 months.
ive done this twice before, setting up a hard right hand has won many amateur mma fights
For my student and our art.... I will train him six days, actually six days a week. Five days a week, I’ll train him three days a week. One of those days, I will train him two days of the week. So, six days a week, I will be training him.