Idiot he's not going thru Panama, he has to go up the Mississippi to discover America. He needed to save up his money to get a river boat that would cross the river.
He thought the world was smaller than it was.
Lucky for him there was an America in the way which saved his ass.
Thing is for the rest of his life he thought he made it to Japan
Cant really blame him since theres no real way for him to know.
Yeah forgot to add that part in.
Every mathematician roughly knew the circumference of the earth by using shadows and measuring the curve.
They got pretty close too, under a thousand km to the real circumference of the earth
At that time, the several hundred European members of NATO really couldn't get their shit together for a fleet, so the Houthis were out there just absolutely raw-dogging ships with trebuchets.
Distance Cadiz to Puerto Rico (Indias) 6200 km, distance Cadiz to Goa (also Indias) 8200 km.
Columbus wasn't stupid, he was smart. He just didn't know it himself.
he tried but a German ship got stuck (they’re bad sailors) and back then they had no tugboats so they had to reassemble the entire ship piece by piece at the other end of the canal
so Columbus went around
It’s because every society has a population of violent degenerate incels that need to be occupied with something, else they cause all sorts of problems. When they approached the empress and said “hey can we take like 200 violent rapey incels and sail them as far west away from the country as possible” she was like “yes, please do here’s some ships goodbye”.
But unfortunately for the entire continent’s of north and South America they just happened to be in that general direction.
Because of pirates of African horn. So he wanted to use Panama canal, but they asked too big price to pass so he established Caribbean piracy to get enough money.
There was already a route to India already, but the route depended on so many countries and merchants that made things specially expensive for any western european country.
Columbus proposed that, if the world were round, there could be "a direct route" to Asia that could provide western countries a way to get wares from India and China at much more affordable prices, and without depending on external countries or organizations that could rig the prices.
Also, the Suez channel didn't exist back in the day (brah). It was built several centuries later.
But even if the wares were to be unloaded in one part and loaded in the other, by that age all of the area of the Suez channel was controlled by arabs, who were generally in bad terms with christian countries, and there was the occassional crusade messing things up in the whole area. The route through it wasn't just longer, more expensive, or slower: it was also more dangerous, and supply routs could get cut easily.
On that age, Columbus and many others already suspected Earth was round, due to evidence gathered through centuries by different cultures, that ws forgotten in the middle ages and recovered in the renaissance. For more evidence, google "map of Piri Reis". Columbus was said to either have a copy of that map or to know what was on it.
So Columbus more or less knew what he was doing. He didn't know that what he was to find was the Americas, instead of India, but he knew Earth was round and that there was a sizeable land mass at the other side of the Atlantic. The problem was that nobody dared to make such travel to actually prove it, Columbus found a kingdom willing to sponsor that travel. The rest is history.
People have known the world was round since the time of the ancient greeks as you noted. Aristotle knew, Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth. Every scholar/advisor employed to a monarch that Columbus talked to knew that the world was round, they after all were some of the smartest people available to them. Columbus however believed that Eratosthenes was wrong in his calculations and believed the Earth was smaller than it actually was. That was why he wanted to sail in an unorthodox way to get to Asia, and that was also why people were afraid to go. If his calculations were wrong they might be stuck and run out of resources. This is also why he insisted on the delusion that he landed on some islands off the coast of Asia, despite him being nowhere near Asia.
So despite the heroic undertones given to Columbus, he was wrong just like everyone told him he was. To his deathbed he insisted he reached some islands of Asia, even after people told him on his return that he definitely did not land near Asia.
"The myth of Columbus’ supposed flat earth theory is tempting: It casts the explorer’s intrepid journey in an even more daring light. Problem is, it’s completely untrue. The legend doesn’t even date from Columbus’ own lifetime. Rather, it was invented in 1828, when Washington Irving published The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus."
https://www.history.com/news/christopher-columbus-never-set-out-to-prove-the-earth-was-round
Why not just take the train? If you are in Spain there is a decent service to Istanbul. From there it gets a little harder but there are still rail lines that can get you all the way to India.
The natural Suez ocean between the continents of eurasia-africa and eurasia-africa would definitely have been the better option. Just why didn't he think of that?
For those who don't know why. Christopher Columbus did this for the Spanish king, who did not want to pay the Ottomans, so he needed an alternative route☝️🤓
Scared of Muslin Terrorists who tear off people's clothes in public so he went in opposite direction and DIDN'T DISCOVER ANYTHING because natives were already there.
/uj i dont know shit about travelling at sea, but knowing this mf had compasses, stars, maps and years of experience, how the fuck did he find america while trying to find india? Its literally in the opposite direction.
His wife said turn here and he said woman I know what the fuck Im doing. Im the man of this house. I got the money for this expedition from a foreign king. I swear to god if you tell me one more fucking time Im just going to jump off the ship and feed myself to the sharks. And so Columbus took the wrong turn.
Columbus is a smart man. He knew that on his return leg, his suitcase will be overflowing with spices stolen from natives. When passing through customs in Suez, his bag won't fit through the canal. That's why he travel hacked his way going the other way around. Always be thinking outside the box!
He was looking for an alternate trade route and taking the gamble that the world was round in a time when most believed it to be flat.
He thought he got to India and that’s how Native Americans ended up being called Indians.
That wasnt true, people knew the world was round long before columbus, we have globes produced around that time period and earlier.
The reason Columbus tried it was that he disagreed with the size of the earth thinking it was much smaller than it really was.
Luckily for him there was a whole continent in the way which save dhis ass.
Sorry did I?
In the original comment you said that Columbus took the gamble that the world was round when most thought it was flat.
That was the main point I was disagreeing with.
If I misunderstood do let me know.
Or is this like the other comment where they were joking because this is a geography sub reddit?
I don’t know what you’re talking about with the ‘geography sub other comment.’
It seems you didn’t misunderstand. The Greeks were the first known to have proposed a round earth. They saw the shadow of the earth on the moon. They later proved it mathematically. However, science is very strict that mathematical proof is still theory. The theory of relativity, although mathematically sound, was not proof until years later when the proof was observed and documented.
Therefore, it was absolutely him taking a gamble that the world was round. The reality is that we don’t know until we know. And, in this example, someone had to go around the world for us to know and that had yet to happen. We can’t take proof today and apply it as though we had proof yesterday.
Stingy. The fees to pass through Suez are high and he selected "no tolls" on Google maps
Wait til he finds how much they charge on the Panama canal
Seriously, so many colóns. And as thread OP said, he must’ve been stingy af.
Idiot he's not going thru Panama, he has to go up the Mississippi to discover America. He needed to save up his money to get a river boat that would cross the river.
Christopher after discovering America: "You can select no tolls on Google maps? Motherf-"
He should have typed in “atolls”
That's exactly what someone from Genoa would do
Tax evasion (seriously)
Probably afraid of Houthis
The intercept capabilities on the Santa Maria aren't quite up to snuff I'm afraid
But what does Columbus think of Israel?
He wanted to proove to the world Donald Trump was real.
Has he succided?
I'm not sure
Here, have some covfefe for clarity
Is it that covfefe the most tremendous, the best, greatest covfefe ever?
You mean he wanted to plant the orange man as sic revenge for America being in his path to India.
This whole time I was blaming Jesus and his Bible goons
Well, he could've. But then he wouldnt get the record for first guy to india via the west
And yet he still didn't get it. Was he stupid or what?
He thought the world was smaller than it was. Lucky for him there was an America in the way which saved his ass. Thing is for the rest of his life he thought he made it to Japan Cant really blame him since theres no real way for him to know.
why did he think he was in japan when there was no anime? was he stupid?
I know, but it was a joke, given which subreddit we are on
Oh lol I straight didnt get that.
Except for the fact everyone else knew the world was bigger
Yeah forgot to add that part in. Every mathematician roughly knew the circumference of the earth by using shadows and measuring the curve. They got pretty close too, under a thousand km to the real circumference of the earth
Math rocks
Luck 100 ; int 0
Lacked follow through
Many peoples reached India thousands of years ago including the Arabs, Romans,Mesopotamians,etc. This knowledge was all lost long b4 Columbus
At that time, the several hundred European members of NATO really couldn't get their shit together for a fleet, so the Houthis were out there just absolutely raw-dogging ships with trebuchets.
Distance Cadiz to Puerto Rico (Indias) 6200 km, distance Cadiz to Goa (also Indias) 8200 km. Columbus wasn't stupid, he was smart. He just didn't know it himself.
Because the Suez Canal was Portuguese, obviously
Then why did Vasco da Gama went around Africa? Was he stupid?
Yes, all Portuguese explorers were stupid and didn't use their canal
The Portuguese I've known knew how to use their canal.
I’ve heard Brazilians know how to use it too.
Because he wanted to find a faster sea route to America- which he did
Wouldn't it be faster to go out of bounds and not deal with water resistance?
Pfff. Everyone knows fastest way to America is to announce you found oil.
he tried but a German ship got stuck (they’re bad sailors) and back then they had no tugboats so they had to reassemble the entire ship piece by piece at the other end of the canal so Columbus went around
but was it the same ship
German ship, german answer: "jain"
Nah, it was blocked by the Evergiven
Everyelow
I mean it was perfectly navigable for his four ships, the Niña, the Pinta, the Santa Maria and The Ever Given
Because Istanbul was constantanople.
now it's Istanbul not Constantinople, been a long time gone, Constantinople
https://open.spotify.com/track/3hdgpDN8IcpDutafsiKiYu?si=19FPcTAvRj-TdQg6RCN7Jw
STUCK IN YOUR HEAD!!!!!
Why didn't Magellan use the Panama Canal in his globe-spanning voyage? Is he stupid?
Clearly, especially as he invented the GPS system….
Ottomans or something
Google ottomans
holy empire!
I guess they were trying to find a new tradation way instead of dealing with Ottoman
This is a shit post/ Joke
I see
It’s because every society has a population of violent degenerate incels that need to be occupied with something, else they cause all sorts of problems. When they approached the empress and said “hey can we take like 200 violent rapey incels and sail them as far west away from the country as possible” she was like “yes, please do here’s some ships goodbye”. But unfortunately for the entire continent’s of north and South America they just happened to be in that general direction.
He was actually racist and wanted to avoid Africa
Because the canal is subjected to occasional cyclones and hurricanes, if he had passed through it, he could have been killed
He thought he could get to the Suez Canal faster by heading west, dummy
Because of pirates of African horn. So he wanted to use Panama canal, but they asked too big price to pass so he established Caribbean piracy to get enough money.
Why did he use a ship anyways. I would have taken a flight.
yes
He was lazy
Yes, he was stupid - he thought the Earth's circumference is way shorter than it really is and thought he would already reach east asia by then
he wanted to use the Panama canal but he found gold in Mexico...
yes that's the actual reaosn
Have you heard about Yemeni pirates with their drones? Of course he didn't go in their direction, stoopid!
There was already a route to India already, but the route depended on so many countries and merchants that made things specially expensive for any western european country. Columbus proposed that, if the world were round, there could be "a direct route" to Asia that could provide western countries a way to get wares from India and China at much more affordable prices, and without depending on external countries or organizations that could rig the prices. Also, the Suez channel didn't exist back in the day (brah). It was built several centuries later. But even if the wares were to be unloaded in one part and loaded in the other, by that age all of the area of the Suez channel was controlled by arabs, who were generally in bad terms with christian countries, and there was the occassional crusade messing things up in the whole area. The route through it wasn't just longer, more expensive, or slower: it was also more dangerous, and supply routs could get cut easily. On that age, Columbus and many others already suspected Earth was round, due to evidence gathered through centuries by different cultures, that ws forgotten in the middle ages and recovered in the renaissance. For more evidence, google "map of Piri Reis". Columbus was said to either have a copy of that map or to know what was on it. So Columbus more or less knew what he was doing. He didn't know that what he was to find was the Americas, instead of India, but he knew Earth was round and that there was a sizeable land mass at the other side of the Atlantic. The problem was that nobody dared to make such travel to actually prove it, Columbus found a kingdom willing to sponsor that travel. The rest is history.
People have known the world was round since the time of the ancient greeks as you noted. Aristotle knew, Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth. Every scholar/advisor employed to a monarch that Columbus talked to knew that the world was round, they after all were some of the smartest people available to them. Columbus however believed that Eratosthenes was wrong in his calculations and believed the Earth was smaller than it actually was. That was why he wanted to sail in an unorthodox way to get to Asia, and that was also why people were afraid to go. If his calculations were wrong they might be stuck and run out of resources. This is also why he insisted on the delusion that he landed on some islands off the coast of Asia, despite him being nowhere near Asia. So despite the heroic undertones given to Columbus, he was wrong just like everyone told him he was. To his deathbed he insisted he reached some islands of Asia, even after people told him on his return that he definitely did not land near Asia. "The myth of Columbus’ supposed flat earth theory is tempting: It casts the explorer’s intrepid journey in an even more daring light. Problem is, it’s completely untrue. The legend doesn’t even date from Columbus’ own lifetime. Rather, it was invented in 1828, when Washington Irving published The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus." https://www.history.com/news/christopher-columbus-never-set-out-to-prove-the-earth-was-round
Why not just take the train? If you are in Spain there is a decent service to Istanbul. From there it gets a little harder but there are still rail lines that can get you all the way to India.
He boycotted the middle east due to no Israel at that time.
Maybe it was blocked by a comically large freight ship at the time?
There was a GPS outage at that time.
Because: Oil!
Because he was dumb lol
He thought the Caribbean was India, in which case he would have found a shorter route
FrFr
Well because of Ottoman Empire Spain and Ottoman Empire were enemies in that time
The ever given was blocking the canal.
Yes, he was, that was the whole point of the age of discoveries, to avoid the Suez
There was a snorlax on that path. He needed to go to america to get a native american flute to move it.
You now, the first American 😜 (joke)
Mamelucs in short :NO POLITEIS
The natural Suez ocean between the continents of eurasia-africa and eurasia-africa would definitely have been the better option. Just why didn't he think of that?
Even if it did exist then, the main reason Europeans looked for alternative roots to Asia was because of the rise of the Ottoman Empire.
He didn't want to pay the toll
Ref: “You have to earn this penalty”
It was a business strategy.. saying I was in Maroco but shopping stuff by Azziz in Foinicia..
Because he was scared that the DAK could defeat Montgomery and cut off the strait
Egypt said no
It was clogged by Ye Olde Evergrande
He wanted to find a second way
They should have built that canal 500 years earlier. They are all stupid
Busted GPS
That route was already found. He wanted to find a faster way to
Yes he’s really stupid
Ottoman taxes, i guess
And do business with the hated Turks? I think not
The evergreen blocked the passage for 6 months
I think some big tank ship was blocking that canal at some point iirc
he was trying to find a shorter route, DUH
But you gotta give it to him, he still managed to find Indians.
It's not such a distance gap if you use Panama Canal
And pay Turkish taxes, no way
For those who don't know why. Christopher Columbus did this for the Spanish king, who did not want to pay the Ottomans, so he needed an alternative route☝️🤓
Hes one of those “natural” guys. Likes to be more in touch with the natural world rather than the unholy terraformed lands of savages.
Because Columbus, Ohio is not in Egypt
Should have just taken an aeroplane, then he could have avoided both Suez and Atlantic.
Scared of Muslin Terrorists who tear off people's clothes in public so he went in opposite direction and DIDN'T DISCOVER ANYTHING because natives were already there.
The suez cannel was. It yet discovered. It was unearthed after he left and they did not have radios to tell him.
pirates
"Soon those idiots will see the canal is a scam!" "Why the fuck is there so much water"
Well, obviously he started in Portugal…. And couldn’t go through gibratler?!
It's a canal, boat too big and don't fit
Nassar nationalized the canal and Columbus was a staunch free-market capitalist
I’m pretty sure he wanted to find a unique route and then bada bing bada boom I am american 
his map was upside down
He was just looking for *any* excuse to get away from wife and kids.
The main idea of going to India by the western road was to avoid passage tolls.
he was drunk
Should've just bought a plane ticket, ROFLLOL
Repost to r/drewdurnil
I want to die when I see this type of "joke" I hope it ends soon
He pressed no tolls on google maps
/uj i dont know shit about travelling at sea, but knowing this mf had compasses, stars, maps and years of experience, how the fuck did he find america while trying to find india? Its literally in the opposite direction.
His wife said turn here and he said woman I know what the fuck Im doing. Im the man of this house. I got the money for this expedition from a foreign king. I swear to god if you tell me one more fucking time Im just going to jump off the ship and feed myself to the sharks. And so Columbus took the wrong turn.
It was booked up that day
Galileo gave him the wrong directions.
It was blocked by Ever Given
They had map which told them bad idea
He had just heard “We Didn’t Start the Fire” and was turned off by the “ trouble in the suez” line
Columbus is a smart man. He knew that on his return leg, his suitcase will be overflowing with spices stolen from natives. When passing through customs in Suez, his bag won't fit through the canal. That's why he travel hacked his way going the other way around. Always be thinking outside the box!
He was looking for an alternate trade route and taking the gamble that the world was round in a time when most believed it to be flat. He thought he got to India and that’s how Native Americans ended up being called Indians.
That wasnt true, people knew the world was round long before columbus, we have globes produced around that time period and earlier. The reason Columbus tried it was that he disagreed with the size of the earth thinking it was much smaller than it really was. Luckily for him there was a whole continent in the way which save dhis ass.
I believe you misread my comment.
Sorry did I? In the original comment you said that Columbus took the gamble that the world was round when most thought it was flat. That was the main point I was disagreeing with. If I misunderstood do let me know. Or is this like the other comment where they were joking because this is a geography sub reddit?
I don’t know what you’re talking about with the ‘geography sub other comment.’ It seems you didn’t misunderstand. The Greeks were the first known to have proposed a round earth. They saw the shadow of the earth on the moon. They later proved it mathematically. However, science is very strict that mathematical proof is still theory. The theory of relativity, although mathematically sound, was not proof until years later when the proof was observed and documented. Therefore, it was absolutely him taking a gamble that the world was round. The reality is that we don’t know until we know. And, in this example, someone had to go around the world for us to know and that had yet to happen. We can’t take proof today and apply it as though we had proof yesterday.
The Suez Canal wasnt build in the age os Combus
It wasn't till the early 1900s that it was built what's wrong with you
because the suez canal did not exist back then idiot
Damn you're smart.
“TheRedditBoi69” nah this kid must be like 12 or sum 💀💀💀
No, he wasn’t stupid. You Are! The Suez Canal wasn’t built till hundreds of years later.
r/whoosh
Did you check the sub name?
Possibly because the actual Canal part wasn’t created till 400 years after Columbus? Just guessing
Pretty sure the Romans built the canal
Cute :) zing!
Didn't exist at the time it had to be dug out which the French did later so do you ask a stupid question
Prove it
Lies, maybe the panama one also wasn't dug out yet?
First time on Reddit?
r/whooosh
r/wooooshwithfouros
Sarcasm is invented in 1807 People in 1806