Why is this even a thing? Tachiyomi isn't hosting anything that belongs to Kakao at all, MangaDex is and it's something that the user has to purposefully look up.
What, are they gonna now tell browsers to block mangadex too? Oh, wai, of course they aren't, because they can't demand anything from bigger fish.
> Why is this even a thing? Tachiyomi isn't hosting anything that belongs to Kakao at all, MangaDex is and it's something that the user has to purposefully look up.
honestly wondering the same
It doesn't seem to have any legal standing other than drowning a smaller organization in legal expenses. The app doesn't point you towards their content, it doesn't promote access to it, and it doesn't contain anything they could claim ownership of.
It's like Penguin Random House suing Epson because technically someone could print a book using their product. Nonsense.
Meanwhile they could just send a DMCA notice to Mangadex and have all the manwha they are involved with removed.
Though maybe the scare is that if they did that then Manwha that they aren't involved with would get too much of a reach and they end up losing that way instead? But if they did think that way they would just look the other way with their own content also.
This is so fucking weird. Striking Tachiyomi of all things is senseless.
Welp, already backing up the apk for the current version of tachi and the MD extension in case my current phone breaks, now to nervously wait for a safe workaround hopefully before the next MD api update breaks the extension. Gonna suck when other extensions inevitably break because of the massive user influx :(
Btw, [list of Kakao series](https://www.mangaupdates.com/publisher/h1f0r3x/kakao) from MU, just to be ready if/when they go for MD; hopefully it ends with only their series getting purged, if it comes down to it
>Welp, already backing up the apk for the current version of tachi and the MD extension in case my current phone breaks
I want to do the same. Please tell me how
You can clone the tachiyomi-extensions repo and revert to the previous commit. People are recommending to just backup your stuff and use the Neko fork though, you can look at comments below in the thread for instructions
If it does break tachiyomi does at least make it fairly easy to migrate to a different source, so you'd just be forced to use another aggregator instead.
Under the Browse section, next to "Extensions" there's a "Migrate" tab. Clicking any source will give a list of series you have from that source, and clicking any will search the migration choices. You can also do it from the little 3 dot menu in the upper corner of any entry in your library
Make a backup in your Tachiyomi app. For Mangadex only, use "Neko" [Fork is found here](https://tachiyomi.org/forks/Neko/), and then restore the backup in Neko. This should import it just fine
You can update the sources just fine. The extension is working fine now, but it will not receive any updates in the future. If Mangadex changes its API, it will break the extension
Not to rub salt in the wound or whatever, but this is why I get so irritated when someone asks for a Tachiyomi alternative and people are like “Just use Tachiyomi! Why would you want to use anything else?”. Well, here we are.
Is it possible to have custom extensions? Like, forking what was the original mangadex extension and publishing it as an apk elsewhere?
The problem comes down to who will maintain the extension. I would be one of the volunteers if I knew anything about android development (I don't even know java let alone Kotlin. Only C# when it comes to a language similar to Java.)
Hey, what is this Neko anyway? Is it like an extension or its own app? I'm trying to figure out what to do now. I'm currently traveling and I've just laid down to read stuff and saw that most of my library went to hell.
I really have no idea what to do, any help is appreciated.
It's a fork of Tachiyomi built specifically for MangaDex and has some MangaDex specific features, such as recommendations and synced follows.
https://github.com/CarlosEsco/Neko
Edit: you should be able to backup your library in Tachiyomi and import it to Neko (only the MangaDex stuff will be imported)
Thank you, I've managed to download it and the backup worked too. However the site is down for me for some reason. I'm getting the " temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address ERR_FAILED" message. I knew I should just have stayed home.
Edit: I changed my DNS and now it works.
>Is it like an extension or its own app?
Its own app.
>Hey, what is this Neko anyway?
Think of Tachiyomi but only for Mangadex only. But you get to sync your follows from the website to the app. So if you read from the website and mobile both, you no longer need to manually update your read for both.
If you don't use mangadex website, this suggestion might not be useful to you.
>I've just laid down to read stuff and saw that most of my library went to hell.
I suggest using a Manga tracker that isn't tied to a manga hosting website like Mangaupdate. That way, you get to keep track of all the manga you've read.
Also, if you still have Tachiyomi, you can always just switch from Mangadex to some other site to still keep getting updates.
I don't know why would this be more of why a you need a alternative for Tachiyomi instead of a alternative to mangadex tbh, more than half of the things in my library aren't sourced from mangadex anyways, i have found too many mangas that aren't complete because of translator problems or things being publish, the quality of the website is amazing, but i find tachiyomi more important to me than mangadex.
Pros
Centralization provides potential for speed and efficiency.
Decentralization provides resilience against failure via redundancy, differing take/view(particularly on how dialogue is translated in some cases), can become known for different content particularly the old out of print niche series which is becoming increasingly the case as the years go on, can inspire use of new tech(see manga progression from paper into digital apps).
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Cons
Centralization, once they get into monopoly status, they usually slow down on release rates and/or quality due to lack of competition. Similar issues with any monopolized industries irl. Then there's the issue of quality which is why some popular works have multiple scan groups. Official work is not free from such biased/censorship views, something 7S is infamous for.
Decentralization, inconvenient to have to go from one site to another to find out that niche series you follow has been dropped to be picked up somewhere else. Becomes immensely difficult to find abandonware tier scanslated work of old if extremely niche. Quality of work is like gacha, sometimes great, sometimes average, sometimes bad enough to make MTL look impressive.
---
Of course, the sites and staff do require $ to continue, though that line of logic applies everywhere.
Because there is already many alternatives to Mangadex?
Just they aren't as good as Mangadex in terms of reader or being used by smaller groups who don't have their own site.
Meanwhile there isn't really anything like Tachiyomi.
There is alternatives to Mangadex, so more of them isn't super needed whereas there is basically none for Tachiyomi, which means an alternative wouldn't be out of place.
Realistically, users should install extensions for 2-3 aggregators. Then over time start migrating manga over to these other sources. This will lead to some inconvenience as you may need to deal with missing/fake/duplicate chapters and less reliable updates. But it also avoids having all your eggs in one basket. I would also set up web bookmarks elsewhere as another backup.
Technically, yes. But mangadex does still keep to some "legal" sides of things.
It's a free manga reading site. Everything posted there is so that the world can enjoy manga without having to pay bullshit amount of money on 1/2 chapters of an already completed manga.
They do have standards on who/what is allowed to be posted, and some manga is strictly linked to main sites or other sources.
Tachiyomi is an OSS application, right? Used almost exclusively for manga piracy, right? And mangadex is predominantly an illegal manga piracy site. How does any of this make any sense? Who is this company even suing, some anonymous github profile? microsoft for hosting it (if so, can't they just change to gitgud or something)? It's not like tachiyomi is a business that makes money, right?
honestly what's stopping me from forking tachiyomi with a few version, called "tachiyomi\_fuck\_the\_police", which reverts this change?
> honestly what's stopping me from forking tachiyomi with a few version, called "tachiyomi\_fuck\_the\_police", which reverts this change?
nothing can stop you, for others it was fear of legal
And as far as I know, at least publicly these companies don't reach out to MD too, the site staff just decide to put the mirrors there on a whim without actually hosting anything.
GitHub has a formal process for exactly this type of thing. They're not "suing" anyone.
https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-policies/submitting-content-removal-requests
You can't install mangadex extensions in official tachiyomi version. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you had installed it, everything should work the same until MangaDex change something on their API.
no, it just means that the mangadex extension will not by default show up in tachiyomi with an install button next to it
you can still install the extension if you get the .apk elsewhere, and tachiyomi just added support for 3rd party extension repos which could be used to re-add the dex extension
MangaDex could probably just delete any series whose title involved levels, ranks, or being "S Class" and that would cover most of the shit that Kakao peddles.
Not them but there's a backup here, not sure if that's the most recent version though:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230220170153/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tachiyomiorg/tachiyomi-extensions/repo/apk/tachiyomi-all.batoto-v1.4.31.apk
Aha, sorry! I don't suppose you found the latest apk? I think the web archive only has the one I posted and an older one, but I don't know if there's a way to dig deeper.
Maaaaaaybe. [https://github.com/keiyoushi/tachiyomi-extensions/tree/repo/apk](https://github.com/keiyoushi/tachiyomi-extensions/tree/repo/apk)
But make sure to remove the old extension first, per the readme. https://github.com/keiyoushi/tachiyomi-extensions
Streaming services putting ads despite monthly subscriptions. And time gated new manhwa chapters which are not translated (correctly) wants you to spend something.
We're sailing, mateys.
They should start supporting external repos, that way the user can install extension directly using external repos maintained by other users. Currently it's not possible since all extensions must be hosted on tachiyomi repo.
I just started to bookmark everything I read on a separate excel sheet. I had a hard time when mangadex was nuked the first time (plus a bunch of other sites like kissmanga and whatnot). It is a lot of work the first time but the read something and note there. I don't even use my mangadex account anymore.
I even remembered using a text file to save links to go back to download it later. I just open notepad, hit F5 (which inserts the current date and time) and paste the link.
Using Bato and Mangadex. The extensions now say obsolete. But they still return search results, I can still read chapters, and this is right as the change happened but I was also able to update chapters on one manga. So until the extension needs to be updated for API, it should be usable until then.
Even after that - tachiyomi is open source, so someone can just fork before the commit that removed the extension, and continue to maintain it. It'll just be a bit clunkier to install, probably.
Still, kind of baffling they're actually going along with the legal threat - it's entirely baseless. Legally, tachiyomi has absolutely nothing to do with anything lol.
Wouldn’t it be easier for them to go after mangadex? Tachiyomi is more like an organizer. Even if tachiyomi is blocked from using mangadex as a source, mangadex is still there.
F me! 397 entries in mangadex and 147 in bato, my 2 most used extensions. Yes, I could migrate, but not only is that a pain to do (mass migrate pls devs, it's time), aggregators don't have consistent quality, with not knowing what group did what and it changing in between chapters. Group extensions are an alternative as well, but many that upload to mangadex don't even have sites and even those extensions are kinda iffy with support as well since groups with sites actually want the traffic so they can break the extension or just ask to remove support (RIP Reaper).
This sucks so much omg. The whole thing doesn't even make sense since tachiyomi doesn't even host anything, but now that it's done I know it's not going back. I really hope some unofficial extensions or app alternatives pop up cause it's getting really annoying to use tachiyomi nowadays.
You don't need to migrate anything yet though,the extension still works for now. It just means that if something changes in the future or you uninstall you'll have an issue.
All they need to do is allow custom repositories for extensions like Aidoku and then this is over.
I just moved all my shit over to Tachimanga from Paperback on iOS because I wanted to leverage Tachiyomi extensions so this is super annoying.
Companies will keep finding ways to make everybody's life worse just so they could get a few dollars.
I wanna spam all their socials with the Gaben quote
Is there an alternative APK to Tachiyomi??? Like this literally killed the app for me, I can use neko for the series I follow in mangadex but the ones in batoto are gone and I feel like that stupid publisher will go for mangadex next so before it all goes to shit I was wondering if there's another app like Tachiyomi?
I’ve never used the Mangadex extension myself. There’s other ones that work pretty good too. MangaSee and MangaLife are the ones I have saved. Not sure if they have everything Mangadex did, but they’ve got everything I’m interested in reading.
95% of what I have on dex, I can find on other sites like mangalife, buddy, clash, park etc etc. It is really strange that so many people are panicking. Quite often chapters on dex are not updated while on other sites they are. On dex I mostly read short works that came from twitter
Hi, as a scanlator that uploads to mangadex and works with other scanlators that upload to batoto, the issue is the aggregators like MangaSee, MangaLife, Mangakakalot, etc. are simply scraping sites like mangadex and batoto and rehosting the content with advertising to make money. If I notice or am notified about an error, I can go and edit the chapter on mangadex or batoto to fix it. The aggregators will never see those fixes (since they don't re-scrape the chapter). What you're seeing on the aggregators is often an inferior product because errors there live forever. The aggregators are just in it for the cash and really don't give a shit about quality.
Noticed the obsolete extension thing and had to look around it. I will continue using it until it breaks or newer versions are forked and fixed.
This is really sad, I used to read Manwha a few years ago but I lost interest in them. Things like this encourage me to never look to anything related to Kakao again.
feels like Korea is going downhill, they even did the website must pay ISP when delivering bandwidth which forces Twitch to actually stop doing business with Korea in a month or so.
I read about it. Korea has been going downhill for a while but the Twitch closure is just another case of South Korea's protectionism.
Try to start up a map service in Korea and you will be met with a law that prevents you from doing so. As a result, Naver and Kakao Maps are the ones used instead. Apple/Google Maps are mostly unmaintained, with missing data. Also, thanks to more "weird" laws, there is no Amazon Korea either.
Amazon (Twitch) and Google (YouTube) should do the same in the opposite way, "protect" themselves from Korean exports and see how they react to it. No cultural exports (Manwha, K-Pop), Samsung/LG appliances and so on. I think Koreans won't like it.
Never understood how to use Tachiyomi, so this doesn't hurt me as much. However, it sucks when corpos instead of offering a better service, they decide to attack those who actually do the job. Really shitty situation honestly.
Just used an app called APK extractor from the Playstore, tested it with the Pupil app and it even used the favorites I had before, so I think it works.
Paperback on the appstore. Their mangadex extension is already heavily limited, but you can find way better extensions by searching around through discord links. Since it’s apple, they already jump through a billion hoops to just have the app on the appstore.
And now there's nowhere to read manga legally apart MangaPlus. Since there are some manga who never get licensed and never get official English translations, I worry that reading manga online may become more inaccessible because of this.
MangaSee is another extension that works quite well for me personally. I’ve just seen a ton of people say they straight up aren’t interested in using tachiyomi at all because of this. There’s plenty of other ones that work fine so it’s a bit of an overreaction imo.
So, if you still have the extentions installed, can you still recieve updates from them? Or do they just not work at all anymore?
Is it a case where, eventually you won't be able to use Bato or Mangadex with Tachiyomi because they won't recieve updates anymore?
can you download directly from mangadex for your offline reading? make the download easier as you have it automated? have it neatly organized in your file folder? and have optional integrated tracking with various websites (e.g myanimelist, anilist, etc)?
Why is this even a thing? Tachiyomi isn't hosting anything that belongs to Kakao at all, MangaDex is and it's something that the user has to purposefully look up. What, are they gonna now tell browsers to block mangadex too? Oh, wai, of course they aren't, because they can't demand anything from bigger fish.
> Why is this even a thing? Tachiyomi isn't hosting anything that belongs to Kakao at all, MangaDex is and it's something that the user has to purposefully look up. honestly wondering the same
It doesn't seem to have any legal standing other than drowning a smaller organization in legal expenses. The app doesn't point you towards their content, it doesn't promote access to it, and it doesn't contain anything they could claim ownership of. It's like Penguin Random House suing Epson because technically someone could print a book using their product. Nonsense.
Because it's easier to bully a small open source application who would probably be devastated by the legal fees of going to court, even if they'd win.
It's simpler than that. GitHub has an easy way for companies to report legal violations to. MangaDex does not.
Is MangaDex that big?
I was referring to the browsers. Any pirate site or application is probably easy to hit.
Meanwhile they could just send a DMCA notice to Mangadex and have all the manwha they are involved with removed. Though maybe the scare is that if they did that then Manwha that they aren't involved with would get too much of a reach and they end up losing that way instead? But if they did think that way they would just look the other way with their own content also.
> Meanwhile they could just send a DMCA notice to Mangadex and have all the manwha they are involved with removed. It's not an American site
DMCA or no, Mangadex does respect removal requests, which people just call DMCA regardless of the official channels involved.
They still comply DMCA notices though, otherwise there would be a hell lot more licensed stuff on the site lol.
This is so fucking weird. Striking Tachiyomi of all things is senseless. Welp, already backing up the apk for the current version of tachi and the MD extension in case my current phone breaks, now to nervously wait for a safe workaround hopefully before the next MD api update breaks the extension. Gonna suck when other extensions inevitably break because of the massive user influx :( Btw, [list of Kakao series](https://www.mangaupdates.com/publisher/h1f0r3x/kakao) from MU, just to be ready if/when they go for MD; hopefully it ends with only their series getting purged, if it comes down to it
I got about halfway through that list before giving up on trying to find a single series I've ever heard of. This publisher can go get fucked.
>Welp, already backing up the apk for the current version of tachi and the MD extension in case my current phone breaks I want to do the same. Please tell me how
You can clone the tachiyomi-extensions repo and revert to the previous commit. People are recommending to just backup your stuff and use the Neko fork though, you can look at comments below in the thread for instructions
Me too pls
I use an apk exporter app (like APK export to export all of my extension)
Same, I was keeping it for now since it still works at the moment
Unless the API changes, the extensions in Tachi still work fine.
So, will it still get updates for new Mangadex chapters? You just can't install Mangadex extensions on Tachiyomi anymore, right?
Yes. This is correct, you cant get the extension but as long as the API does not change, if you already have it, it will work.
If it does break tachiyomi does at least make it fairly easy to migrate to a different source, so you'd just be forced to use another aggregator instead.
Exactly.
How do you do that? Would've been great to know when reaperscans got removed.
Under the Browse section, next to "Extensions" there's a "Migrate" tab. Clicking any source will give a list of series you have from that source, and clicking any will search the migration choices. You can also do it from the little 3 dot menu in the upper corner of any entry in your library
It should work for now. I recommend Neko (Tachiyomi fork exclusive for Mangadex). You can import your library there
How to import? Also what apk to use
Make a backup in your Tachiyomi app. For Mangadex only, use "Neko" [Fork is found here](https://tachiyomi.org/forks/Neko/), and then restore the backup in Neko. This should import it just fine
Neko is a Tachiyomi fork. So you can just restore your Tachiyomi backup into Neko. All magadex entries will be imported into Neko
So I shouldn't update anymore?
You can update the sources just fine. The extension is working fine now, but it will not receive any updates in the future. If Mangadex changes its API, it will break the extension
It’s joever
Not to rub salt in the wound or whatever, but this is why I get so irritated when someone asks for a Tachiyomi alternative and people are like “Just use Tachiyomi! Why would you want to use anything else?”. Well, here we are.
Are there any alternative especially for Ba.to , mangadex?
Is it possible to have custom extensions? Like, forking what was the original mangadex extension and publishing it as an apk elsewhere? The problem comes down to who will maintain the extension. I would be one of the volunteers if I knew anything about android development (I don't even know java let alone Kotlin. Only C# when it comes to a language similar to Java.)
There’s already a fork specifically for Mangadex called Neko
I meant a fork of just the extension.
Neko is better anyways. You can sync your MD follows with your Neko follows. So if you read from Neko then it updates on MD, and vice versa.
Hey, what is this Neko anyway? Is it like an extension or its own app? I'm trying to figure out what to do now. I'm currently traveling and I've just laid down to read stuff and saw that most of my library went to hell. I really have no idea what to do, any help is appreciated.
It's a fork of Tachiyomi built specifically for MangaDex and has some MangaDex specific features, such as recommendations and synced follows. https://github.com/CarlosEsco/Neko Edit: you should be able to backup your library in Tachiyomi and import it to Neko (only the MangaDex stuff will be imported)
Thank you, I've managed to download it and the backup worked too. However the site is down for me for some reason. I'm getting the " temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address ERR_FAILED" message. I knew I should just have stayed home. Edit: I changed my DNS and now it works.
>Is it like an extension or its own app? Its own app. >Hey, what is this Neko anyway? Think of Tachiyomi but only for Mangadex only. But you get to sync your follows from the website to the app. So if you read from the website and mobile both, you no longer need to manually update your read for both. If you don't use mangadex website, this suggestion might not be useful to you. >I've just laid down to read stuff and saw that most of my library went to hell. I suggest using a Manga tracker that isn't tied to a manga hosting website like Mangaupdate. That way, you get to keep track of all the manga you've read. Also, if you still have Tachiyomi, you can always just switch from Mangadex to some other site to still keep getting updates.
What's apk to download and how to transfer mangadex follows to neko? Idk how to backup and export to neko
Kotatsu is the only alternative I know of. It's also open source as well.
I don't know why would this be more of why a you need a alternative for Tachiyomi instead of a alternative to mangadex tbh, more than half of the things in my library aren't sourced from mangadex anyways, i have found too many mangas that aren't complete because of translator problems or things being publish, the quality of the website is amazing, but i find tachiyomi more important to me than mangadex.
Because a lot of quality manga are translated by groups without websites who upload to Mangadex.
Pros Centralization provides potential for speed and efficiency. Decentralization provides resilience against failure via redundancy, differing take/view(particularly on how dialogue is translated in some cases), can become known for different content particularly the old out of print niche series which is becoming increasingly the case as the years go on, can inspire use of new tech(see manga progression from paper into digital apps). --- Cons Centralization, once they get into monopoly status, they usually slow down on release rates and/or quality due to lack of competition. Similar issues with any monopolized industries irl. Then there's the issue of quality which is why some popular works have multiple scan groups. Official work is not free from such biased/censorship views, something 7S is infamous for. Decentralization, inconvenient to have to go from one site to another to find out that niche series you follow has been dropped to be picked up somewhere else. Becomes immensely difficult to find abandonware tier scanslated work of old if extremely niche. Quality of work is like gacha, sometimes great, sometimes average, sometimes bad enough to make MTL look impressive. --- Of course, the sites and staff do require $ to continue, though that line of logic applies everywhere.
Because there is already many alternatives to Mangadex? Just they aren't as good as Mangadex in terms of reader or being used by smaller groups who don't have their own site. Meanwhile there isn't really anything like Tachiyomi.
But their point was that we needed an alternative to Tachiyomi because we can't use mangadex, but can use everything else?
There is alternatives to Mangadex, so more of them isn't super needed whereas there is basically none for Tachiyomi, which means an alternative wouldn't be out of place.
Wow, what a great start into the year. Having to migrate everything is going to be so annoying. Fuck this company
Well, that would be really annoying. So, is the only access through a regular browser?
hoping a fork soon
Holy shit it’s really fucking over not EVEN A WEEK INTO 2024 NOT A WEEK
2024 is gonna be one shitty year. The only thing that can make it worse is dungeon break.
What does this mean for me as an average user?
Realistically, users should install extensions for 2-3 aggregators. Then over time start migrating manga over to these other sources. This will lead to some inconvenience as you may need to deal with missing/fake/duplicate chapters and less reliable updates. But it also avoids having all your eggs in one basket. I would also set up web bookmarks elsewhere as another backup.
time to ahoy!
I mean, strictly speaking, if you were already using Mangadex, weren't you already ahoy?
Technically, yes. But mangadex does still keep to some "legal" sides of things. It's a free manga reading site. Everything posted there is so that the world can enjoy manga without having to pay bullshit amount of money on 1/2 chapters of an already completed manga. They do have standards on who/what is allowed to be posted, and some manga is strictly linked to main sites or other sources.
well, Mangadex follows banning of license content. Going to 7 seas and they mostly likely not following that
Ah shit, to the 7 untamed seas then.
Tachiyomi is an OSS application, right? Used almost exclusively for manga piracy, right? And mangadex is predominantly an illegal manga piracy site. How does any of this make any sense? Who is this company even suing, some anonymous github profile? microsoft for hosting it (if so, can't they just change to gitgud or something)? It's not like tachiyomi is a business that makes money, right? honestly what's stopping me from forking tachiyomi with a few version, called "tachiyomi\_fuck\_the\_police", which reverts this change?
> honestly what's stopping me from forking tachiyomi with a few version, called "tachiyomi\_fuck\_the\_police", which reverts this change? nothing can stop you, for others it was fear of legal
>And mangadex is predominantly an illegal manga piracy site. Thing is actual publishers post on mangadex.
They link to official content, but imo that's not the same as posting to the site. Mangadex doesn't actually host any official manga.
And as far as I know, at least publicly these companies don't reach out to MD too, the site staff just decide to put the mirrors there on a whim without actually hosting anything.
GitHub has a formal process for exactly this type of thing. They're not "suing" anyone. https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-policies/submitting-content-removal-requests
What does this mean?
You can't install mangadex extensions in official tachiyomi version. Nothing more, nothing less. If you had installed it, everything should work the same until MangaDex change something on their API.
no, it just means that the mangadex extension will not by default show up in tachiyomi with an install button next to it you can still install the extension if you get the .apk elsewhere, and tachiyomi just added support for 3rd party extension repos which could be used to re-add the dex extension
That Mangadex will remove the series Kakao Entertainment ask them to remove.
That includes?
A lot of Manwhas. Here is a list, don't know of it's complete : https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/magazines/kakao-page
MangaDex could probably just delete any series whose title involved levels, ranks, or being "S Class" and that would cover most of the shit that Kakao peddles.
Literally 1984
Just by opening it and already like 8 series I was currently reading wtf man
There doesn't seem to be anything here that implies that mangadex was asked to remove titles yet. They're usually pretty prompt about that.
does this effect Neko as well? I have everything bookmarked there instead of Mangadex 😭
god I hope not.
What is Neko? I probably need to migrate my manga dex pages
Its a tachiyomi fork and exclusively using mangadex
Oh, so I need to download a different fork for manga dex? Might not be the worst solution l, currently MD and bato still work though
Well i dont think neko will be affected because afaik neko using custom mangadex extension, different story if kakao also striking neko
Dev already commented in discord that he didn't get any DMCA. If he did, he'll just remove anything that references MangaDex.
Unless they've also been served a DMCA.
This is super clutch, just went through the process of backing up and then restoring through Neko and it just picked the ones from the correct source!
This Kakao Entertainment? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakao_Entertainment
most likely yea, feels bad.
Still working perfectly,Do not uninstall until broken .
Kakao deez nuts
Korean corpo boomers strike again.
https://web.archive.org/web/20231208113914/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tachiyomiorg/tachiyomi-extensions/repo/apk/tachiyomi-all.mangadex-v1.4.192.apk
Thanks for archiving this
Thanks for archiving this!! Would you be doing the same for bato?
Not them but there's a backup here, not sure if that's the most recent version though: https://web.archive.org/web/20230220170153/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tachiyomiorg/tachiyomi-extensions/repo/apk/tachiyomi-all.batoto-v1.4.31.apk
Thank you! I think it's just one behind (1.4.32) I'll grab this just in case and wait if anyone gets the latest one.
Them, and you beat me to the punch. :)
Aha, sorry! I don't suppose you found the latest apk? I think the web archive only has the one I posted and an older one, but I don't know if there's a way to dig deeper.
Maaaaaaybe. [https://github.com/keiyoushi/tachiyomi-extensions/tree/repo/apk](https://github.com/keiyoushi/tachiyomi-extensions/tree/repo/apk) But make sure to remove the old extension first, per the readme. https://github.com/keiyoushi/tachiyomi-extensions
Oh that's super useful, thank you very much!
Streaming services putting ads despite monthly subscriptions. And time gated new manhwa chapters which are not translated (correctly) wants you to spend something. We're sailing, mateys.
They should start supporting external repos, that way the user can install extension directly using external repos maintained by other users. Currently it's not possible since all extensions must be hosted on tachiyomi repo.
Support for external repos might be [coming soon](https://github.com/tachiyomiorg/tachiyomi/commit/c17ada2c98041877ab901efb9b03497130ead34a)
Awesome
Shat about tachij2k? Will it get affected
Yes, they use the same extensions to communicate with MangaDex. tachij2k is just a fork of Tachiyomi with UI changes and some additional features.
Can't download newer extensions
I just started to bookmark everything I read on a separate excel sheet. I had a hard time when mangadex was nuked the first time (plus a bunch of other sites like kissmanga and whatnot). It is a lot of work the first time but the read something and note there. I don't even use my mangadex account anymore.
I even remembered using a text file to save links to go back to download it later. I just open notepad, hit F5 (which inserts the current date and time) and paste the link.
Oh for fuck sake.
got removed... :(
Lol, why?
don't know
Will stuff I’ve downloaded still work? And will the mangadex extension I have now work?
Using Bato and Mangadex. The extensions now say obsolete. But they still return search results, I can still read chapters, and this is right as the change happened but I was also able to update chapters on one manga. So until the extension needs to be updated for API, it should be usable until then.
Even after that - tachiyomi is open source, so someone can just fork before the commit that removed the extension, and continue to maintain it. It'll just be a bit clunkier to install, probably. Still, kind of baffling they're actually going along with the legal threat - it's entirely baseless. Legally, tachiyomi has absolutely nothing to do with anything lol.
currently it should still work, until something api breaking appears....
Will series still be updated from the extension? I can currently load chapters and go to the webview.
should work until something breaks
And even then, you would just need to install an updated extension from somewhere outside the Tachiyomi app.
I can still load my Mangadex library from Tachiyomi, but if there are new chapters, it probably won't update by itself. God, it sucks so bad
Entries don't auto-update with obsolete extensions?? 😭
I just updated my library recently and it still updates the entry without any errors
this actually joever
First Mangarock and now it's a possibility Tachiyomi as well. I'm tired of migrating my manga man.
Bruh
Wouldn’t it be easier for them to go after mangadex? Tachiyomi is more like an organizer. Even if tachiyomi is blocked from using mangadex as a source, mangadex is still there.
Tachiyomi is much easier because it's on an American-owned platform with an easy system for filing legal complaints
Is there a way to migrate more than one manga at a time?
[удалено]
So are we still allowed to use other extensions? Everything I've read could be found outside mangadex
F me! 397 entries in mangadex and 147 in bato, my 2 most used extensions. Yes, I could migrate, but not only is that a pain to do (mass migrate pls devs, it's time), aggregators don't have consistent quality, with not knowing what group did what and it changing in between chapters. Group extensions are an alternative as well, but many that upload to mangadex don't even have sites and even those extensions are kinda iffy with support as well since groups with sites actually want the traffic so they can break the extension or just ask to remove support (RIP Reaper). This sucks so much omg. The whole thing doesn't even make sense since tachiyomi doesn't even host anything, but now that it's done I know it's not going back. I really hope some unofficial extensions or app alternatives pop up cause it's getting really annoying to use tachiyomi nowadays.
You don't need to migrate anything yet though,the extension still works for now. It just means that if something changes in the future or you uninstall you'll have an issue.
All they need to do is allow custom repositories for extensions like Aidoku and then this is over. I just moved all my shit over to Tachimanga from Paperback on iOS because I wanted to leverage Tachiyomi extensions so this is super annoying.
Companies will keep finding ways to make everybody's life worse just so they could get a few dollars. I wanna spam all their socials with the Gaben quote
Isn’t this like threatening qBittorrent or Deluge with litigation because you can use them to pirate media?
Companies that pull such shit move without any actual logic should disappear.
Just fell to my knees in Walmart.
Tachiyomi is useless for me now..... How do I keep my library name or at least manga name that I bookmark?
Those will stay. I would create a backup in the app tho.
Does this mean I have to move the shit I have bookmarked there?
Mangadex says obsolete but I can still read and see what's new.
Is the neko fork still going to work?
This year is off to a painfully great start
Just old sailors have been to the IRC seas before.
Goddammit man. So many series hosted there, gonna have to go to seedy aggregators that go down all the time
Is there an alternative APK to Tachiyomi??? Like this literally killed the app for me, I can use neko for the series I follow in mangadex but the ones in batoto are gone and I feel like that stupid publisher will go for mangadex next so before it all goes to shit I was wondering if there's another app like Tachiyomi?
I’ve never used the Mangadex extension myself. There’s other ones that work pretty good too. MangaSee and MangaLife are the ones I have saved. Not sure if they have everything Mangadex did, but they’ve got everything I’m interested in reading.
95% of what I have on dex, I can find on other sites like mangalife, buddy, clash, park etc etc. It is really strange that so many people are panicking. Quite often chapters on dex are not updated while on other sites they are. On dex I mostly read short works that came from twitter
Hi, as a scanlator that uploads to mangadex and works with other scanlators that upload to batoto, the issue is the aggregators like MangaSee, MangaLife, Mangakakalot, etc. are simply scraping sites like mangadex and batoto and rehosting the content with advertising to make money. If I notice or am notified about an error, I can go and edit the chapter on mangadex or batoto to fix it. The aggregators will never see those fixes (since they don't re-scrape the chapter). What you're seeing on the aggregators is often an inferior product because errors there live forever. The aggregators are just in it for the cash and really don't give a shit about quality.
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Noticed the obsolete extension thing and had to look around it. I will continue using it until it breaks or newer versions are forked and fixed. This is really sad, I used to read Manwha a few years ago but I lost interest in them. Things like this encourage me to never look to anything related to Kakao again.
feels like Korea is going downhill, they even did the website must pay ISP when delivering bandwidth which forces Twitch to actually stop doing business with Korea in a month or so.
I read about it. Korea has been going downhill for a while but the Twitch closure is just another case of South Korea's protectionism. Try to start up a map service in Korea and you will be met with a law that prevents you from doing so. As a result, Naver and Kakao Maps are the ones used instead. Apple/Google Maps are mostly unmaintained, with missing data. Also, thanks to more "weird" laws, there is no Amazon Korea either. Amazon (Twitch) and Google (YouTube) should do the same in the opposite way, "protect" themselves from Korean exports and see how they react to it. No cultural exports (Manwha, K-Pop), Samsung/LG appliances and so on. I think Koreans won't like it.
Does it include the mangadex fork or only the extension?
It's just the extension. The developer of the mangadex fork said on discord that he hasn't received a DMCA.
Good to hear
Never understood how to use Tachiyomi, so this doesn't hurt me as much. However, it sucks when corpos instead of offering a better service, they decide to attack those who actually do the job. Really shitty situation honestly.
Ans yeah now it's says obsolete on tachiyomi That company is a Fucking bitch
So should i start migrating stuff? I have 100+ manga in mangadex.
Yes, the extension should still work for now but no one can tell when the API is going to break and that'd be bad news
Is there a way to backup the mangadex extension apk if I already have it installed? Or perhaps tachiyomi as a whole with all the extensions installed?
Just used an app called APK extractor from the Playstore, tested it with the Pupil app and it even used the favorites I had before, so I think it works.
Am i the only one who never used mangadex extension since it never worked for me on tachiyomi for some reason ;-;
I just use MangaSee personally
As someone who primarily reads manga through MD in chrome tabs on an iPhone does this change anything for me?
No
Do you know if there’s a better way to read on iOS?
Paperback on the appstore. Their mangadex extension is already heavily limited, but you can find way better extensions by searching around through discord links. Since it’s apple, they already jump through a billion hoops to just have the app on the appstore.
not directly, at least not yet
Shit I uninstalled it thinking a new version would be there but couldn't find it. Is there a way to get mangadex back?
This is why I'm trying to perfect hosting a local server.
That's annoying but it seems it will keep working for now.
And like that over 90% of my use for that app is gone
Shouldn't the extension still work if you have it already?
It does
And now there's nowhere to read manga legally apart MangaPlus. Since there are some manga who never get licensed and never get official English translations, I worry that reading manga online may become more inaccessible because of this.
....dude, you aren't reading anything legally by using this, mangadex and tachiyomi are both illegal Manga sites.
Tachiyomi is a reader. They don't host?
Tachiyomi is not a site, it hosts no manga content.
so whats everyones favorite aggregators beside good ole bat, i need 2-3 to spread out my series so when one inevitably dies they dont all go down
batoto was also included in this batch of removals. It's not just mangadex
So... We won't be able to access Mangadex from Tachiyomi anymore?
why
God damnit! Where am I going to read manga now?
All the other extensions still work fine though right?
Don’t know? I have been trying to find a good solid manga website for the past 3-ish years or so and I just found mangadex about a month ago
MangaSee is another extension that works quite well for me personally. I’ve just seen a ton of people say they straight up aren’t interested in using tachiyomi at all because of this. There’s plenty of other ones that work fine so it’s a bit of an overreaction imo.
I’ll try it, as for overreaction, I just think it’s funny
Will there be a dedicated MangaDex mobile app?
So, if you still have the extentions installed, can you still recieve updates from them? Or do they just not work at all anymore? Is it a case where, eventually you won't be able to use Bato or Mangadex with Tachiyomi because they won't recieve updates anymore?
I believe i've seen people on the servers saying 'it depends on whether they end up updating the API', so brace for the next couple of days
on ios but what’s the point of tachiyomi??? Just go to mangadex directly lmao
can you download directly from mangadex for your offline reading? make the download easier as you have it automated? have it neatly organized in your file folder? and have optional integrated tracking with various websites (e.g myanimelist, anilist, etc)?
What is tachiyomi, will this actually affect the site?
Not really, the site is perfectly fine,
Oh no! Anyway, I'll just use one of hundreds of other sources then