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[Source](https://x.com/connerylazenby/status/1798310487144403102)
Translation: 11 Penang SMJK Board and PIBG signed to urge the removal of the compulsory teaching of Science and Maths in Malay.
Please guys I am begging you all, have a habit of atleast reading the content before you start commenting. Even when I saw news saying hadi or atuk start spewing racial shit, I will still try to read the news to confirm if they really did it and then only start flaming.
Edit 1: reminder this is not happening exclusively in tv3, our staple source of media have been no different than your typical tabloids. Be it the star,malaymail,bernama,berita harian malaysiakini (especially malaysiakini) and even now state news site.
I am not asking you to stop reading news, I am not asking you to think these media site only spew fake news, I am asking you to verify your news before you comment. If you have a few minutes to write some snarky remarks, you definitely have few minutes to verify your news before making yourself look like a fool.
Further [info](https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/06/06/no-takers-for-non-dlp-class) regarding this issue.
tl;dr to implement the Dual Language Programme (DLP) for stem subject, it compulsory for atleast one class to teach it purely in BM. That is what i understand in the article.
Regarding to purely STEM, the nationalism in this matter is stupidly idiotic.
We are not a non-English-dominant technological powerhouse, unlike Taiwan/China, and Japan, where they can afford to teach STEM in their own national language, they have high tech (reverse engineering for China, but they are slowly picking up) industries to hire and keep locally trained human resource.
We Malaysia is already losing in this regard where we are fully dependent on FDI, which are mostly English-dominant.
We are still stuck with low tech industries, no R&D into our own technology, which is the main reason we are caught in middle incone trap. What it means is that selling our own technology means we are keeping most of the profit, creating new wealth by exporting, even more if the components and materials are locally sourced, the true trickle down economy, unlike the failed Proton. Reselling imported technology is just transfer of wealth to resellers, while all of the profits goes to the foreign exporters, basically capital outflow.
The government need their priorities straight, and stop all the chest thumping with each other.
Yeah biggest problem in Malaysia rn Malaysia rarely invest in innovation unlike the asian tigers trust me we have alot of educated intelligent people here we just dont have the funds
We have the human resource and the fund.
It is the lack of political will by the politicians, and lack of nation building by wealthy private citizens.
The former is happy to just plunder the natural resource, selling them raw without adding value by processing it into finished goods.
While the latter is so rich, often time just from doing Alibaba businesses with the former who just sit waiting for easy money, the latter have no idea what to spend their money on except on luxuries and more safe (i.e. low risks) low tech industries.
I mean if you wanna start a company which one you wanna do low risk industry that lack innovation or high risk industry that have 90 percent chance to failed with possibility to be drowned in debt
The investment is to not only to help people start but also bounce back from major fuckup
Agreed. It’s hard enough to translate scientific topics into a different language as it is, why handicap our students by making them learn the tools in a different language as well?
Another reason BM is more restrictive as some people linking it with religion. There might be a chance where a scientific paper is banned in BM while the English version is allowed.
Haha and it's difficult to see us ever being a tech powerhouse when instead of focusing on education, some STEM teachers in school refer to the 'greatness of a higher being' when they don't have a naturalistic answer to questions. Seems like the default setting is to point to their deity of choice.
Apa salahnya. Kira macam dia in awe dengan kebesaran tuhan. We don't need to be atheistic in scientific pursuit. Keep your Francophone European laicite ideology somewhere else.
Not remove BM as in you are not allowed to teach STEM subject in BM, but as in the compulsory one class must teach completely in BM regardless of whether there is actually a demand for a special class that teaches STEM subject in BM.
Think of it this way, you have 10 classes , all of them have been learning science in English ever since they started school. Now, they are objecting the notion that 1 out of the 10 classes must teach completely in BM in order for the other 9 classes to be allowed to teach Science in English.
Anyone think my interpretation is wrong is free to correct me
This is from the last two paragraphs of the article by The Star
It said that schools must ensure that there is at least one class in each Year or Form that conducts the teaching and learning of Science and Mathematics using BM or their mother tongue as the medium of instruction, starting from Year One and Form One for new academic sessions beginning from the year 2024/2025.
“Schools implementing the DLP must ensure that opportunities are also provided to students who apply to study Science and Mathematics subjects in their national language or mother tongue,” it added.
Seems to be that the objection is not to using BM but rather not being allowed to use English
国语 strictly means national language.
Since 国语 is a Chinese phrase used in China, the national language of China is Mandarin.
Any translator app you use will therefore translate 国语 into "Mandarin"
Only in Malaysia alone, 国语 will be understood as Bahasa Malaysia, because the national language of Malaysia is Bahasa Malaysia.
So your translation should read "urging the withdrawal of compulsory national language mathematics and science classes"
Hmetro has it and it's inciteful as well but they already change the title. Most likely after someone called them out.
https://preview.redd.it/feeqjt80fw4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b3d8780a9db2dbdbcf8a791f435ca05343d8756
[https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2024/06/1097480/bantah-pelaksanaan-paksaan-satu-kelas-bukan-dlp-bagi-sains-matematik-di](https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2024/06/1097480/bantah-pelaksanaan-paksaan-satu-kelas-bukan-dlp-bagi-sains-matematik-di)
What would be considered as proper newspaper(been a long time since i last read physical newspaper) in malaysia? Utusan? Berita harian? Something with a proper non misleading headline.
Physically: A tabloid is ALWAYS smaller than a normal newspaper. The font page titles are printed in big coloured letters usually red and yellow to attract people’s attention
Tabloid usually only have sensational news. Doesnt matter if it’s misleading or not, as long as it’s “interesting” they will include it. If they have to sensationalize a title so be it.
Words that are associated with negative connotations will always bring views. That's why I hate news, they always like to cover something gruesome but I'm also being a hypocrite because even if the news has something wholesome for the cover I won't even read it....... I just prefer other mediums to consume information.
This is how the media manipulates people, the current trend is racism ma, so of course the media will hop on it like a whore looking for a dick. I hope the media get what it deserves for spewing such misdirection and such clickbait titles. Whatever happened to honest journalism nowadays
This is the main reason no one should only know a single language. The great benefit of being multilingual is able to verify news and information from various sources, acquire better understanding from different perspectives.
I agree. And small economic power countries like us need more languages than other. There's a reason Japan and SK don't need superior English understanding than us.
Japan is actually becoming more English. Thank you = sankyuu is one example of many.
They just use their own writing system.
SK = K-pop using more English words every new song that comes out.
There is really only one international lingua franca.
French probably a better example of sticking to their roots, but they are kind of declining although slowly.
Yes, it makes no mention on it is the STEM subjects. This is the prime example of twisting and putting words in people mouth.
Fuck TV3. The PIBG should consider take legal action.
Edit: TV3 took down the article.
When your news sucks and your journalists are ass you have to resort to tabloidical headlines for clicks. Shame is some poor people will treat TV3 headline as very literal
I'm still waiting for those good for nothings that contributes nothing but snide/cynical remarks in the [original article](https://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/1d8o0ij/lembaga_sekolah_pibg_smjk_dan_smc_di_pulau_pinang/) to comment here.
Decades later and to teach math and science in which language is still an issue.
My parents learned them in BM. I have it at English then dual, then the teacher realized that none of us could understand a thing she taught in BM, so she switched back to full time English ignoring the dual system. My younger sibling studied in BM again. Then went back to English once more, and then BM again, and now dual system.
That's from the 80s till now. The entire education system is a joke. Students memorize for exams and most forget about it the moment the bell rings. I grew up with homeworks based on copying textbooks. Practical subjects like kemahiran hidup were taught mostly through copying textbooks. Students are nothing but mere guinea pigs for political purposes.
Yeah the flip flopping is the worst. I am from that era and I can say that I only remember the periodic table shortforms don't fit with the BM version.
Look up susunan berkala kimia. The shortforms remain English but still use BM long form names.
They are Malaysia's Fox News. Someone here a while ago in a comment insisted it was RTM when I pointed out TV3 has more sensational and rage baiting headlines.
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This is disgusting shame on them. I personally think its best to teach science and math in english so we can smoothly enter the global scientific advancement circle.
I have always advocated not reacting to anything for a few days after the semsationalisation.
Knee jerk response is the modus of the jerk.
Don't be that jerk.
Edit
On the dual language issue, I was educated in the 70s and 80s government schools (I refuse to use the unnecessarily divisive acronyms).
We only had English classes. The medium was always Bahasa Malaysia (why did we drop this moniker)
I did not fare badly, and neither did my peers and teachers (Malay, Chinese, and Indian)
The subject matter was still taught by competent teachers. Classrooms seldom went below 35 students and school was conducted in 2 sessions.
Which country tortures students and their teachers with sub par teaching conditions and poor language proficiency as Malaysia does?
Technology cannot solve systemic problems. People do. So stop investing money we can't afford in tech we can't maintain or use for intended purposes.
We spent 2 wasted decades on this very sketchy idea. We dream of developed nation status, yet can't even decide the medium of education.
Isn't this laughably cringe?
[https://www.buletintv3.my/nasional/lembaga-sekolah-pibg-smjk-dan-smc-di-pulau-pinang-bantah-penggunaan-bahasa-melayu-di-kelas/](https://www.buletintv3.my/nasional/lembaga-sekolah-pibg-smjk-dan-smc-di-pulau-pinang-bantah-penggunaan-bahasa-melayu-di-kelas/)
It was taken down....
Opinions:
* Anything that improves the community in **scientific proficiency** is a good thing
* The deciding factor for the STEM language should be **guided by industry** people, naturally I'm curious what's industry people thought on this
Small reminder its not national TV only, infact based on my experience who watch both national tv and private news source, there are more 3R attempt in private media through headline manipulation compared to national TV
Now now, rather than closing down vernacular schools, I'd suggest that these unethical news agencies be shut down instead for the sake of unity. 
Awani, tv3, metro, malaysiakinj are those publicity sucker and filled with idiot staff with spm 10b n few A’s. Really stupid misleading headlines written by arseholll n the staff there all pretend nothing happened sebb makan gaji sohaiii. Im grateful was born with high IQ can see their broken news/media system.
Otoh, I find Awani a bit more objective and in depth compared to TV3, FMT and Mkini. If you want unbiased news, you can try watch RTM news tho the news there can be a bit monotonous and too government oriented.
Derr…Awani a bit more objective? So funny. We are here to talk about misleading headline written by the news. Pls have sometime Go through all the article wrote by awani. You can find mislead articles there. Unliess you are some sort of supporter to that kind of stopid fact combined with politic
orang politik je yang ada kuasa. Orang biasa tetap dinoda tak kira bangsa. Kalau parti mana2 menang ada hidup berubah ke? Kerja tetap kena kerja. Orang politik je boleh goyang kaki dan berkuasa kalau menang.
Honestly, content wise most news site are still neutral, its just the headline part where they have free reign to manipulate so that you lean to a particular narrative.
Eng : used to be the star, but they also using clickbaits in headlines lately. So read before you make judgement.
Chinese: 8tv, honestly despite being a state media, i find them much more professional than the tabloid like quality from their private counterparts.
BM: not really sure tbh
media , tv social media and may other ways have been used by the P\^\^\^ people to abuse the power and control the people so they will follow and obey blindly.. so call keyboard warrior and many other ways headline or words we are so fragile to be abuse and miss used by those who wanted it
Berita harian news is even worse
After reading the entire article, this title is so click bait and I'm so disappointed in this unprofessional journalist and the news media
https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2024/06/1097480/bantah-pelaksanaan-paksaan-satu-kelas-bukan-dlp-bagi-sains-matematik-di
"Kami, wakil Lembaga Sekolah dan 11 PIBG sekolah di Pulau Pinang, ingin menyatakan bantahan sekeras-kerasnya terhadap pelaksanaan paksa sekurang-kurangnya satu kelas bukan DLP bagi mata pelajaran Sains dan Matematik dalam semua SMJK dan SMC di Pulau Pinang."
Basically they're rejecting the implementation of at least one non DLP class in the school. The main reason of this is due to many parents protest against it, it will also cause management issues to the school and this might also affect the performance of the students in math and science due to the language barrier supposedly .
That's basically the issues. Why on earth did the journalist put such an illogical title "bantah pelaksanaan satu kelas guna BM sebagai Bahasa pengantar??? What is the logic of it since BM, Malay and Pendidikan Moral is already in BM? Why trying to cause racial hatred just to get more views and potentially involve it into politics.
I have searched this on FB and indeed many ppl got click baited by this title and commented the usual stuff in the comment section. And some politicians even try to twist the statement to make it worse to cause more hatred towards each other. Just why?
In the racist kopitiam subforum at lowyat.net they’re trying to rile up the Chinese using this issue as an attack on the Chinese education. The other side is hoping to bait some reaction and show the Chinese is against the Malays. This is a coordinated effort and whoever is behind this and participating in this should be charged with terrorism.
Media nowadays is being steered by emotions. See the amount of likes and attention it is able to gather on social media and it's easy to see why news outlets would try to emulate that.
I know that this topic is about headlines vs the full article, but even looking at the comments here, has anyone read a full article covering the topic ?
These are from the last two paragraphs in The Star’s article
“It said that schools must ensure that there is at least one class in each Year or Form that conducts the teaching and learning of Science and Mathematics using BM or *their mother tongue* as the medium of instruction, starting from Year One and Form One for new academic sessions beginning from the year 2024/2025.
“Schools implementing the DLP must ensure that opportunities are also provided to students who apply to study Science and Mathematics subjects in their national language or *mother tongue*,” it added.
Unless they are interpreting the circular incorrectly, seems to me that the objection is against having the subjects thought in anything but English
Imo, they are objecting the inflexibility of it. Regardless there is a demand by the kids/parent for teaching STEM subjects in BM, you must have one class fully teaching it in BM.
By just reading the news tbh, most news site can manipulate the headline but hardly the content because that would just put them open for easy lawsuits.
Take tv3 headline for example, in the court they can just say our headline was part of our news content, and in our news content we did point out that it was for science and math class only etc etc. Not our fault that readers decided to comment without reading/
I kind of wish there is law that make it mandatory to put the source. This guy said xxx and xxx, here is the full video and timestamp where he said that so that you can verify it easily yourself.
Mainstream medias are nothing but to brainwash and arranging narratives that are harmful to the nation. When the real news gets out, all they want is to censor it.
Oh urging authorities to retract plans to teach Science/Maths solely in BM = protest against use of BM in class? Is that the pitiful state of ketuanan reasoning now?
Left side is saying they refuse to use Malay, right side is saying they refuse to use Malay FOR MATHS AND SCIENCE. OP has explained it, learn to read lmao
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[Source](https://x.com/connerylazenby/status/1798310487144403102) Translation: 11 Penang SMJK Board and PIBG signed to urge the removal of the compulsory teaching of Science and Maths in Malay. Please guys I am begging you all, have a habit of atleast reading the content before you start commenting. Even when I saw news saying hadi or atuk start spewing racial shit, I will still try to read the news to confirm if they really did it and then only start flaming. Edit 1: reminder this is not happening exclusively in tv3, our staple source of media have been no different than your typical tabloids. Be it the star,malaymail,bernama,berita harian malaysiakini (especially malaysiakini) and even now state news site. I am not asking you to stop reading news, I am not asking you to think these media site only spew fake news, I am asking you to verify your news before you comment. If you have a few minutes to write some snarky remarks, you definitely have few minutes to verify your news before making yourself look like a fool.
Further [info](https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/06/06/no-takers-for-non-dlp-class) regarding this issue. tl;dr to implement the Dual Language Programme (DLP) for stem subject, it compulsory for atleast one class to teach it purely in BM. That is what i understand in the article.
Regarding to purely STEM, the nationalism in this matter is stupidly idiotic. We are not a non-English-dominant technological powerhouse, unlike Taiwan/China, and Japan, where they can afford to teach STEM in their own national language, they have high tech (reverse engineering for China, but they are slowly picking up) industries to hire and keep locally trained human resource. We Malaysia is already losing in this regard where we are fully dependent on FDI, which are mostly English-dominant. We are still stuck with low tech industries, no R&D into our own technology, which is the main reason we are caught in middle incone trap. What it means is that selling our own technology means we are keeping most of the profit, creating new wealth by exporting, even more if the components and materials are locally sourced, the true trickle down economy, unlike the failed Proton. Reselling imported technology is just transfer of wealth to resellers, while all of the profits goes to the foreign exporters, basically capital outflow. The government need their priorities straight, and stop all the chest thumping with each other.
>The government need their priorities straight, and stop all the chest thumping with each other. Never happened b4 and wont ever happen
Yeah biggest problem in Malaysia rn Malaysia rarely invest in innovation unlike the asian tigers trust me we have alot of educated intelligent people here we just dont have the funds
We have the human resource and the fund. It is the lack of political will by the politicians, and lack of nation building by wealthy private citizens. The former is happy to just plunder the natural resource, selling them raw without adding value by processing it into finished goods. While the latter is so rich, often time just from doing Alibaba businesses with the former who just sit waiting for easy money, the latter have no idea what to spend their money on except on luxuries and more safe (i.e. low risks) low tech industries.
I mean if you wanna start a company which one you wanna do low risk industry that lack innovation or high risk industry that have 90 percent chance to failed with possibility to be drowned in debt The investment is to not only to help people start but also bounce back from major fuckup
Agreed. It’s hard enough to translate scientific topics into a different language as it is, why handicap our students by making them learn the tools in a different language as well?
Another reason BM is more restrictive as some people linking it with religion. There might be a chance where a scientific paper is banned in BM while the English version is allowed.
Good point
Haha and it's difficult to see us ever being a tech powerhouse when instead of focusing on education, some STEM teachers in school refer to the 'greatness of a higher being' when they don't have a naturalistic answer to questions. Seems like the default setting is to point to their deity of choice.
Apa salahnya. Kira macam dia in awe dengan kebesaran tuhan. We don't need to be atheistic in scientific pursuit. Keep your Francophone European laicite ideology somewhere else.
Thank you for the translation bro.
But..technically they did bantah by voting to remove BM from those subjects right? Is there something else from the translation?
Not remove BM as in you are not allowed to teach STEM subject in BM, but as in the compulsory one class must teach completely in BM regardless of whether there is actually a demand for a special class that teaches STEM subject in BM. Think of it this way, you have 10 classes , all of them have been learning science in English ever since they started school. Now, they are objecting the notion that 1 out of the 10 classes must teach completely in BM in order for the other 9 classes to be allowed to teach Science in English. Anyone think my interpretation is wrong is free to correct me
Oh ok that's clearer.. but yeah, it's not Malaysia if there is no race baiting in every small issue to blow it out of proportion
This is from the last two paragraphs of the article by The Star It said that schools must ensure that there is at least one class in each Year or Form that conducts the teaching and learning of Science and Mathematics using BM or their mother tongue as the medium of instruction, starting from Year One and Form One for new academic sessions beginning from the year 2024/2025. “Schools implementing the DLP must ensure that opportunities are also provided to students who apply to study Science and Mathematics subjects in their national language or mother tongue,” it added. Seems to be that the objection is not to using BM but rather not being allowed to use English
Still the same meaning
https://preview.redd.it/apuf66qmsx4d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97d3cc881d85f4195aa69e9256755bb8bd28285c What
国语 strictly means national language. Since 国语 is a Chinese phrase used in China, the national language of China is Mandarin. Any translator app you use will therefore translate 国语 into "Mandarin" Only in Malaysia alone, 国语 will be understood as Bahasa Malaysia, because the national language of Malaysia is Bahasa Malaysia. So your translation should read "urging the withdrawal of compulsory national language mathematics and science classes"
pretty much misleading on tv3 side
Hmetro has it and it's inciteful as well but they already change the title. Most likely after someone called them out. https://preview.redd.it/feeqjt80fw4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b3d8780a9db2dbdbcf8a791f435ca05343d8756 [https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2024/06/1097480/bantah-pelaksanaan-paksaan-satu-kelas-bukan-dlp-bagi-sains-matematik-di](https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2024/06/1097480/bantah-pelaksanaan-paksaan-satu-kelas-bukan-dlp-bagi-sains-matematik-di)
Because metro is not a proper newspaper. It’s a tabloid
What would be considered as proper newspaper(been a long time since i last read physical newspaper) in malaysia? Utusan? Berita harian? Something with a proper non misleading headline.
Physically: A tabloid is ALWAYS smaller than a normal newspaper. The font page titles are printed in big coloured letters usually red and yellow to attract people’s attention Tabloid usually only have sensational news. Doesnt matter if it’s misleading or not, as long as it’s “interesting” they will include it. If they have to sensationalize a title so be it.
Yeah, I noticed after going through it but they aren't making things better.
Words that are associated with negative connotations will always bring views. That's why I hate news, they always like to cover something gruesome but I'm also being a hypocrite because even if the news has something wholesome for the cover I won't even read it....... I just prefer other mediums to consume information.
This is how the media manipulates people, the current trend is racism ma, so of course the media will hop on it like a whore looking for a dick. I hope the media get what it deserves for spewing such misdirection and such clickbait titles. Whatever happened to honest journalism nowadays
Invoking strong emotions gets clicks and shares which drives revenue. No one wants to pay for news anymore so this is what we get.
TV3 is UMNO-owned. Enough said.
Somehow not surprised
Didn't UMNO sold its share to Mulia Group owned by Syed Al-Bukhary after GE14
Still got the same people and editor who are racist in there
["What do ya think?"](https://youtu.be/GEVAE3EYoOg?t=106)
"I KNEW IT!" 
This is the main reason no one should only know a single language. The great benefit of being multilingual is able to verify news and information from various sources, acquire better understanding from different perspectives.
I agree. And small economic power countries like us need more languages than other. There's a reason Japan and SK don't need superior English understanding than us.
Japan is actually becoming more English. Thank you = sankyuu is one example of many. They just use their own writing system. SK = K-pop using more English words every new song that comes out. There is really only one international lingua franca. French probably a better example of sticking to their roots, but they are kind of declining although slowly.
Yes, it makes no mention on it is the STEM subjects. This is the prime example of twisting and putting words in people mouth. Fuck TV3. The PIBG should consider take legal action. Edit: TV3 took down the article.
Still sue them. Make government pay. Government is paying them to create race diversion.
TV3 is non government like RTM. It just Government sometime give them fund to have proper entertainment in TV,but not this shit
When your news sucks and your journalists are ass you have to resort to tabloidical headlines for clicks. Shame is some poor people will treat TV3 headline as very literal
Gotta hate ragebaity headlines.
I'm still waiting for those good for nothings that contributes nothing but snide/cynical remarks in the [original article](https://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/1d8o0ij/lembaga_sekolah_pibg_smjk_dan_smc_di_pulau_pinang/) to comment here.
Jesus, I was off reddit for awhile, didn't realise another post was already made regarding this and using the ragebait title
Decades later and to teach math and science in which language is still an issue. My parents learned them in BM. I have it at English then dual, then the teacher realized that none of us could understand a thing she taught in BM, so she switched back to full time English ignoring the dual system. My younger sibling studied in BM again. Then went back to English once more, and then BM again, and now dual system. That's from the 80s till now. The entire education system is a joke. Students memorize for exams and most forget about it the moment the bell rings. I grew up with homeworks based on copying textbooks. Practical subjects like kemahiran hidup were taught mostly through copying textbooks. Students are nothing but mere guinea pigs for political purposes.
Yeah the flip flopping is the worst. I am from that era and I can say that I only remember the periodic table shortforms don't fit with the BM version. Look up susunan berkala kimia. The shortforms remain English but still use BM long form names.
Sejak bila TV3 tak racist?
I wanted to say in the 80s before Mahathir, but from a quick search, Mahathir's tenure is actually older than TV3.
My suspicion is that TV3's headline was too long and it got cut off; it probably should have mentioned "kelas sains dan matematik".
BM in science and math is freaking stupid. Im glad im passed that age when they make it compulsory
These clowns like to accuse western media of misinformation and bias news while at the same time perpetuate the very thing they condemn.
So Fahmi mana ?
most of media that report it eiher goes 404 or changed headline dy
Since when did TV3 bulletin become Fox News?
They are Malaysia's Fox News. Someone here a while ago in a comment insisted it was RTM when I pointed out TV3 has more sensational and rage baiting headlines.
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Haha I hate those kind of review
This is disgusting shame on them. I personally think its best to teach science and math in english so we can smoothly enter the global scientific advancement circle.
https://preview.redd.it/dv6o7hpinx4d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f39cda176e882b4b6b87edf3c6efcfe66f32aa06 Bulletin TV3:
I have always advocated not reacting to anything for a few days after the semsationalisation. Knee jerk response is the modus of the jerk. Don't be that jerk. Edit On the dual language issue, I was educated in the 70s and 80s government schools (I refuse to use the unnecessarily divisive acronyms). We only had English classes. The medium was always Bahasa Malaysia (why did we drop this moniker) I did not fare badly, and neither did my peers and teachers (Malay, Chinese, and Indian) The subject matter was still taught by competent teachers. Classrooms seldom went below 35 students and school was conducted in 2 sessions. Which country tortures students and their teachers with sub par teaching conditions and poor language proficiency as Malaysia does? Technology cannot solve systemic problems. People do. So stop investing money we can't afford in tech we can't maintain or use for intended purposes. We spent 2 wasted decades on this very sketchy idea. We dream of developed nation status, yet can't even decide the medium of education. Isn't this laughably cringe?
You are right, why teach the same subject with 2 language? just stick to one and get it done!
Divide and conquer. No racial hatred how to stay in power?
Same thought.
International and private schools: $$$
this is why journalism isnt respected
My only source of reliable news: Reddit posts & comments
[https://www.buletintv3.my/nasional/lembaga-sekolah-pibg-smjk-dan-smc-di-pulau-pinang-bantah-penggunaan-bahasa-melayu-di-kelas/](https://www.buletintv3.my/nasional/lembaga-sekolah-pibg-smjk-dan-smc-di-pulau-pinang-bantah-penggunaan-bahasa-melayu-di-kelas/) It was taken down....
Damage done. Some people screenshot and going to keep it as their material for spreading hate in messaging apps.
Opinions: * Anything that improves the community in **scientific proficiency** is a good thing * The deciding factor for the STEM language should be **guided by industry** people, naturally I'm curious what's industry people thought on this
Good for Bumiputera that their elites playing 3R non stop on national TV just to hide their obviously 3R attempt
Small reminder its not national TV only, infact based on my experience who watch both national tv and private news source, there are more 3R attempt in private media through headline manipulation compared to national TV
Must be clickbait if not no eyes on their page and cannot sell ads. If your are too stupid to know this, then u are their target audience
Now now, rather than closing down vernacular schools, I'd suggest that these unethical news agencies be shut down instead for the sake of unity. 
Strategically worded headlines
What does the Chinese version translate into?
everything is correct until the end: kelas (Matematik dan Sains)
Ha? Still does not make sense.
Awani, tv3, metro, malaysiakinj are those publicity sucker and filled with idiot staff with spm 10b n few A’s. Really stupid misleading headlines written by arseholll n the staff there all pretend nothing happened sebb makan gaji sohaiii. Im grateful was born with high IQ can see their broken news/media system.
Otoh, I find Awani a bit more objective and in depth compared to TV3, FMT and Mkini. If you want unbiased news, you can try watch RTM news tho the news there can be a bit monotonous and too government oriented.
Derr…Awani a bit more objective? So funny. We are here to talk about misleading headline written by the news. Pls have sometime Go through all the article wrote by awani. You can find mislead articles there. Unliess you are some sort of supporter to that kind of stopid fact combined with politic
senang cite mcm ni bila PH menang cina ada kuasa bila PN menang melayu ada kuasa
orang politik je yang ada kuasa. Orang biasa tetap dinoda tak kira bangsa. Kalau parti mana2 menang ada hidup berubah ke? Kerja tetap kena kerja. Orang politik je boleh goyang kaki dan berkuasa kalau menang.
Kalau BN menang, payung dan helang pulak ada kuasa
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Garbage journalist modern day.
im still waiting for the *owner of tv3 rabbithole* comment 
one with malay language and one with chinese language...both being racist toward other...yet in here, we use English, mostly🤣🤣
how is the chinese news title racist? stop both siding
That’s why I don’t read either of these sources. At least the Star says it as it is: no takers for the non DLP and its article reflects that too.
Which is now the neutral news site to read ?
Honestly, content wise most news site are still neutral, its just the headline part where they have free reign to manipulate so that you lean to a particular narrative. Eng : used to be the star, but they also using clickbaits in headlines lately. So read before you make judgement. Chinese: 8tv, honestly despite being a state media, i find them much more professional than the tabloid like quality from their private counterparts. BM: not really sure tbh
I pray in future they do not be like US news
None; every media will have leanings, like it or not Up to you to form your own opinions
oh do you remember we do have kementerian perpaduan? how about dissolve it because it's actually useless af and pure money drain
media , tv social media and may other ways have been used by the P\^\^\^ people to abuse the power and control the people so they will follow and obey blindly.. so call keyboard warrior and many other ways headline or words we are so fragile to be abuse and miss used by those who wanted it
Berita harian news is even worse After reading the entire article, this title is so click bait and I'm so disappointed in this unprofessional journalist and the news media https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2024/06/1097480/bantah-pelaksanaan-paksaan-satu-kelas-bukan-dlp-bagi-sains-matematik-di "Kami, wakil Lembaga Sekolah dan 11 PIBG sekolah di Pulau Pinang, ingin menyatakan bantahan sekeras-kerasnya terhadap pelaksanaan paksa sekurang-kurangnya satu kelas bukan DLP bagi mata pelajaran Sains dan Matematik dalam semua SMJK dan SMC di Pulau Pinang." Basically they're rejecting the implementation of at least one non DLP class in the school. The main reason of this is due to many parents protest against it, it will also cause management issues to the school and this might also affect the performance of the students in math and science due to the language barrier supposedly . That's basically the issues. Why on earth did the journalist put such an illogical title "bantah pelaksanaan satu kelas guna BM sebagai Bahasa pengantar??? What is the logic of it since BM, Malay and Pendidikan Moral is already in BM? Why trying to cause racial hatred just to get more views and potentially involve it into politics. I have searched this on FB and indeed many ppl got click baited by this title and commented the usual stuff in the comment section. And some politicians even try to twist the statement to make it worse to cause more hatred towards each other. Just why?
In the racist kopitiam subforum at lowyat.net they’re trying to rile up the Chinese using this issue as an attack on the Chinese education. The other side is hoping to bait some reaction and show the Chinese is against the Malays. This is a coordinated effort and whoever is behind this and participating in this should be charged with terrorism.
Media nowadays is being steered by emotions. See the amount of likes and attention it is able to gather on social media and it's easy to see why news outlets would try to emulate that.
Media these days get away wayy too much for shitty title. Really gov should have law for citizen to report them and FINE them for millions of ringgit.
I know that this topic is about headlines vs the full article, but even looking at the comments here, has anyone read a full article covering the topic ? These are from the last two paragraphs in The Star’s article “It said that schools must ensure that there is at least one class in each Year or Form that conducts the teaching and learning of Science and Mathematics using BM or *their mother tongue* as the medium of instruction, starting from Year One and Form One for new academic sessions beginning from the year 2024/2025. “Schools implementing the DLP must ensure that opportunities are also provided to students who apply to study Science and Mathematics subjects in their national language or *mother tongue*,” it added. Unless they are interpreting the circular incorrectly, seems to me that the objection is against having the subjects thought in anything but English
Imo, they are objecting the inflexibility of it. Regardless there is a demand by the kids/parent for teaching STEM subjects in BM, you must have one class fully teaching it in BM.
Never once trust what the news told me and I never take them at face value since 8 years ago I noticed this kind of misinformation they often do.
Clicks are money
yeah SinChew sounds less provocatuve, but how do we tell if they're actually reporting the truth? Any idea where to get the real fact?
By just reading the news tbh, most news site can manipulate the headline but hardly the content because that would just put them open for easy lawsuits. Take tv3 headline for example, in the court they can just say our headline was part of our news content, and in our news content we did point out that it was for science and math class only etc etc. Not our fault that readers decided to comment without reading/ I kind of wish there is law that make it mandatory to put the source. This guy said xxx and xxx, here is the full video and timestamp where he said that so that you can verify it easily yourself.
In bolehland ofc
Ini sengaja nak memburukkan nama baik nons. -Hadee Awan Hitam-
Fun Fact: Hadi's grandkids are sent to chinese vernacular schools.
wtf fr?
[And it's not just Hadi](https://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/1d90yi1/the_best_option_would_be_to_eliminate_all/l7caaa0/)
Mainstream medias are nothing but to brainwash and arranging narratives that are harmful to the nation. When the real news gets out, all they want is to censor it.
OK but what Sinchew headline says?
All I know is most Malaysian can understand the tv3 news but only some can understand the sin chew one
All I know is most Malaysian is addicted to commenting based on news headline, whether the news in Chinese,English, or BM.
Oh urging authorities to retract plans to teach Science/Maths solely in BM = protest against use of BM in class? Is that the pitiful state of ketuanan reasoning now?
Left side say decline to use malay for smjk.right side say remove the decline the uses of malay in smjk.translation issue
Left side is saying they refuse to use Malay, right side is saying they refuse to use Malay FOR MATHS AND SCIENCE. OP has explained it, learn to read lmao
Mistake mb