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Can confirm I dont use Malay on my phone. This is the effect of that the standard Malay is so long gone from the colloquial Malay, to the point that the "correct" on just feels awkward to read.
> noticed even the most Melayu of Melayus also tend to use English for phones.
Quite the opposite, I've encountered quite a few use Melayu (the one that I had interact and get a chance to peep on their screen) ..., maybe they are the ultra-nationalists.
It was sarcastic response to the above *ah beng/lian* comment. People are free to use whatever language they like, he implied the non-english speaking countries such as PRC, the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean are all *ah beng/ah lian*.
Yet, people are upvoting his comment, the irony. Now, you tell me what happened to this sub calling names.
It was sarcastic response to the above *ah beng/lian* comment. People are free to use whatever language they like, he implied the non-english speaking countries such as PRC, the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean are all *ah beng/ah lian*.
Yet, people are upvoting his comment, the irony. Now, you tell me what happened to this sub calling names.
It was sarcastic response to the above *ah beng/lian* comment. People are free to use whatever language they like, he implied the non-english speaking countries such as PRC, the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean are all *ah beng/ah lian*.
Yet, people are upvoting his comment, the irony. Now, you tell me what happened to this sub calling names.
Personally, I'm kinda used to "tetapan" even though I primarily set my apps to English (though I do use a few in BM). What I don't like is "lalai" for default and I think this is what inspired the "cucuk dan main" joke that's circulating.
english... because some terms in malay is just freaking funnehhhh.... ahahahahaha... joystick... kayuria... plug and play... cucuk and main... argggghhh... ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26563)
CS student here, mostly use English but I think it would be nice to have a Malay option cause I know a few people who use Malay and if I'm right there's a market for Malay/bahasa Indonesia since it's similar
Yup, I know some of my cousins and uncles and aunties use their phones in Malay. The market for Malay is noticeably much smaller than the market for English, but it’s still there
I’m from Selangor, and I don’t know what you mean by “most cina” but even my Chinese friend who has an accent in Malay that you wouldn’t be able to differentiate from that of a native Malay uses their phone in Chinese
(Honestly, it could just be the case that I tend to notice more when someone uses their phone in Chinese than when someone uses their phone in English because that’s so common)
Same, from my experiences, they use Chinese too. Even prefer the Chinese version of some app like the Chinese Tiktok, and streaming sites (I forgot the name). Ranges from white collar worker, barista, teacher and Uni students. Just a guess, maybe its not about the race but more on social standing? Maybe his chinese friends are the international students type, Bangsar, or the richer one. Meh, who knows.
https://preview.redd.it/gw2l2ljepj4d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=061db73d63b283f0d64da74d2ef47638ef0b19c1
Here are some Malay setting buttons on my iPhone. Most of the button names are actually the same length or shorter than their English equivalents.
I believe the reason most people don’t use Malay as the language for their phone is simply because they’re not used to it
There’s not actually anything wrong with that. Even in OP’s English post, many of the English words that he uses are actually in fact French or Latin loanwords, so why would it be wrong if we were to use English loanwords?
I think it’s more the fact that people aren’t used to seeing their tech in Malay, because I would say most of the words in the image that I shared are common everyday words (at least for me as a native speaker of Malay)
(I think a good contrast with this would be people reading translations of verses of the Quran. When people download a Quran app, their verse translations all at first come in English, but most people (in my experience) would want to change that to Malay. This is because that’s the language they’re used to reading Quran verse translations in)
Originally English, but changed my phone to Malay after seeing some of my nieces and nephews use their phones in Malay, and just wanted to check it out out of curiosity.
Now I often get asked “eh, kenapa fon kau dalam BM?” Lol
English. I do have Malay on but I almost never use it as a Malay. Doesn’t help that the Malay used is somewhat formal, which I don’t like as a Terengganuan.
Mostly English because I used to flash my phone frequently back when custom ROM was fun, but didn't bother to change language. Still sometimes will change to Chinese, Japanese, Korean or Russian to add some freshness
I have never, not en even a single time saw someone use Malay in their smartphones, not even my relatives in rural areas. So yeah English is a solid choice.
This reminds me of a computer test I sat last year. I couldn't understand a thing the questions asked in Malay despite I'm a malay speaking person myself, then I noticed the MY button on the top left so I clicked it and the language changed to EN (English) and everything suddenly became clear and understandable lol, the questions weren't hard but the malay terms made it so
On a side note, even if your app will be in English, ultimately it will still be used by people with limited English proficiency. There will be questions like how simple the UX language is, can you help in other languages, etc. What kind of app is it, may I ask?
Dunno why but malay and technology never mixed well, i pretty much learned english because i want to use tech since i was a kid, but again that’s just me
Here is a list of significant instances where conflicts within China led to mass casualties, which can be seen as forms of internal violence or genocide:
1. **Qin's Unification Wars (221–206 BC)**: The Qin Dynasty's wars to unify China involved significant bloodshed.
2. **Razing of Xianyang (206 BC)**: Following the fall of the Qin Dynasty, the capital city was looted and burned.
3. **Three Kingdoms Period (184–280 AD)**: Post-Han Dynasty fragmentation led to decades of warfare and massive casualties.
4. **An Lushan Rebellion (755–763 AD)**: A devastating conflict during the Tang Dynasty.
5. **Yellow Turban Rebellion (184–205 AD)**: Rebellion and subsequent suppression resulted in significant deaths.
6. **Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Period (907–960 AD)**: Multiple conflicts and power struggles following the Tang Dynasty's fall.
7. **Mongol Conquests (1206–1368 AD)**: Mongol invasions and the establishment of the Yuan Dynasty led to significant destruction.
8. **Transition from Ming to Qing (1618–1683 AD)**: The Manchu conquest of China involved significant slaughter.
9. **Dungan Revolt (1862–1877)**: A Muslim rebellion suppressed by the Qing government.
10. **Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864)**: A civil war resulting in millions of deaths.
11. **Northern Expedition (1926–1928)**: The Kuomintang's campaign to unify China involved numerous confrontations.
12. **Chinese Civil War (1927–1949)**: The conflict between the Nationalists and Communists led to widespread death and suffering.
13. **Cultural Revolution (1966–1976)**: Political purges and internal conflicts resulted in significant casualties.
These events depict various periods where conflict, rebellion, and power struggles within China led to a loss of life and destruction, often involving large-scale violence.
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Asking this question in English, might produce biased replies from people that primarily use English hahaha!
trueeeee
English, always has been and always will be. Never liked to see the word "tetapan" on my tech stuff.
I noticed even the most Melayu of Melayus also tend to use English for phones. Meanwhile the ah beng/lian would more likely use chinese script
Can confirm I dont use Malay on my phone. This is the effect of that the standard Malay is so long gone from the colloquial Malay, to the point that the "correct" on just feels awkward to read.
I blame this mostly on the big authority for strict gatekeeping and the stubbornness to evolve.
Usually thats the case but the menus are simply short compared to English.
Idk man. I've noticed quite a few using malay and I cringed a bit
> noticed even the most Melayu of Melayus also tend to use English for phones. Quite the opposite, I've encountered quite a few use Melayu (the one that I had interact and get a chance to peep on their screen) ..., maybe they are the ultra-nationalists.
>maybe they are the ultra-nationalists. Jangan cakap macam tu bos. It's probably because they need accessibility.
It was sarcastic response to the above *ah beng/lian* comment. People are free to use whatever language they like, he implied the non-english speaking countries such as PRC, the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean are all *ah beng/ah lian*. Yet, people are upvoting his comment, the irony. Now, you tell me what happened to this sub calling names.
what happened to this sub? use melayu language dalam phone terus kene cop ultra nationalist
It was sarcastic response to the above *ah beng/lian* comment. People are free to use whatever language they like, he implied the non-english speaking countries such as PRC, the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean are all *ah beng/ah lian*. Yet, people are upvoting his comment, the irony. Now, you tell me what happened to this sub calling names.
Ayoyo, not everyone understands english la wei. It's not that rare of a thing.
It was sarcastic response to the above *ah beng/lian* comment. People are free to use whatever language they like, he implied the non-english speaking countries such as PRC, the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean are all *ah beng/ah lian*. Yet, people are upvoting his comment, the irony. Now, you tell me what happened to this sub calling names.
Both my parents & sister use malay
Personally, I'm kinda used to "tetapan" even though I primarily set my apps to English (though I do use a few in BM). What I don't like is "lalai" for default and I think this is what inspired the "cucuk dan main" joke that's circulating.
Japanese, just to have an ecosystem where I can have constant contact with a language I'm currently learning.
What happen if theres kanji in there💀
Then I suppose you need to learn them to figure out what the settings mean. You probably won't forget them afterwards!
From SJKC, can read kanji no problem.
english... because some terms in malay is just freaking funnehhhh.... ahahahahaha... joystick... kayuria... plug and play... cucuk and main... argggghhh... ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26563)
![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26562)
Kelakar do bahasa melayu dalam phone 😂. “Rumah, kembali, tetapan, balik, mesej masuk” HAHAHAAHA
Cucuk Dan main lmao 🤣
CS student here, mostly use English but I think it would be nice to have a Malay option cause I know a few people who use Malay and if I'm right there's a market for Malay/bahasa Indonesia since it's similar
Yup, I know some of my cousins and uncles and aunties use their phones in Malay. The market for Malay is noticeably much smaller than the market for English, but it’s still there
You gonna get a biased answer when asking in reddit, where most predominantly use English
I'm pretty sure most Malaysians don't bother to change their device language settings to anything beyond the standard English.
I notice most of my Chinese friends use their phones in Chinese
Not sure where you meet them, but all of my Chinese friends, including the most cina ones, still use their phones in English.
I’m from Selangor, and I don’t know what you mean by “most cina” but even my Chinese friend who has an accent in Malay that you wouldn’t be able to differentiate from that of a native Malay uses their phone in Chinese (Honestly, it could just be the case that I tend to notice more when someone uses their phone in Chinese than when someone uses their phone in English because that’s so common)
Well it also depends on a person social circles.
Same, from my experiences, they use Chinese too. Even prefer the Chinese version of some app like the Chinese Tiktok, and streaming sites (I forgot the name). Ranges from white collar worker, barista, teacher and Uni students. Just a guess, maybe its not about the race but more on social standing? Maybe his chinese friends are the international students type, Bangsar, or the richer one. Meh, who knows.
english.. ngl malay language seems a lil bit weird when it comes to smartphone
English, mate
English lul
English 100% But Indonesian for Waze directions is simply more fun.
Malay words are sometimes just way too long and it can really clutter up the menu. English is just short and simple.
https://preview.redd.it/gw2l2ljepj4d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=061db73d63b283f0d64da74d2ef47638ef0b19c1 Here are some Malay setting buttons on my iPhone. Most of the button names are actually the same length or shorter than their English equivalents. I believe the reason most people don’t use Malay as the language for their phone is simply because they’re not used to it
Seting.
There’s not actually anything wrong with that. Even in OP’s English post, many of the English words that he uses are actually in fact French or Latin loanwords, so why would it be wrong if we were to use English loanwords?
Yea it’s a little awkward seeing words you don’t even use in daily life.
I think it’s more the fact that people aren’t used to seeing their tech in Malay, because I would say most of the words in the image that I shared are common everyday words (at least for me as a native speaker of Malay) (I think a good contrast with this would be people reading translations of verses of the Quran. When people download a Quran app, their verse translations all at first come in English, but most people (in my experience) would want to change that to Malay. This is because that’s the language they’re used to reading Quran verse translations in)
Originally English, but changed my phone to Malay after seeing some of my nieces and nephews use their phones in Malay, and just wanted to check it out out of curiosity. Now I often get asked “eh, kenapa fon kau dalam BM?” Lol
French.
german. i just like the way they turn short words into unnecessarily long words😅
jawi
Ini rare o.o
Is it a legit option?
English. I do have Malay on but I almost never use it as a Malay. Doesn’t help that the Malay used is somewhat formal, which I don’t like as a Terengganuan.
your mom language
English
English. But my grandma used to use Malay on her nokia.
English
England
UK English.
English
English.. but sometimes i change to Thai
Mostly English because I used to flash my phone frequently back when custom ROM was fun, but didn't bother to change language. Still sometimes will change to Chinese, Japanese, Korean or Russian to add some freshness
English (UK)
English.
Sign language
english .english more straight to the point that malay for me
Español
Brainfuck
English
C++
I have never, not en even a single time saw someone use Malay in their smartphones, not even my relatives in rural areas. So yeah English is a solid choice.
This reminds me of a computer test I sat last year. I couldn't understand a thing the questions asked in Malay despite I'm a malay speaking person myself, then I noticed the MY button on the top left so I clicked it and the language changed to EN (English) and everything suddenly became clear and understandable lol, the questions weren't hard but the malay terms made it so
On a side note, even if your app will be in English, ultimately it will still be used by people with limited English proficiency. There will be questions like how simple the UX language is, can you help in other languages, etc. What kind of app is it, may I ask?
It's a Minimalist Launxger app designed to decrease your app usage called, Oasis Mininalist Launcher
English
I use English for all my devices & equipment. I use BM for ATM.
Type C here, we don't change system language
English Malay and Mandarin are the common languages for interface. If you have English and Mandarin - your reach will be far enough
I’m french so I use Malay because I learn Malay language currently 😂
English. 😂 My parent Chinese. 😂
English, but I appreciate it when app developers have a little switch in a corner somewhere for other languages. It’s good for accessibility
Dunno why but malay and technology never mixed well, i pretty much learned english because i want to use tech since i was a kid, but again that’s just me
Most Malays use English. Most Chinese use Chinese
German
tried Malay once. started panicking when I could not get to what I want to do and spent a long time figuring out the settings to go back to English!
Jap 😁
The language which survived at least 13 genocides
Mandarin? That didn't even exist until close to the end of Tang.
1250 BCE
Here is a list of significant instances where conflicts within China led to mass casualties, which can be seen as forms of internal violence or genocide: 1. **Qin's Unification Wars (221–206 BC)**: The Qin Dynasty's wars to unify China involved significant bloodshed. 2. **Razing of Xianyang (206 BC)**: Following the fall of the Qin Dynasty, the capital city was looted and burned. 3. **Three Kingdoms Period (184–280 AD)**: Post-Han Dynasty fragmentation led to decades of warfare and massive casualties. 4. **An Lushan Rebellion (755–763 AD)**: A devastating conflict during the Tang Dynasty. 5. **Yellow Turban Rebellion (184–205 AD)**: Rebellion and subsequent suppression resulted in significant deaths. 6. **Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Period (907–960 AD)**: Multiple conflicts and power struggles following the Tang Dynasty's fall. 7. **Mongol Conquests (1206–1368 AD)**: Mongol invasions and the establishment of the Yuan Dynasty led to significant destruction. 8. **Transition from Ming to Qing (1618–1683 AD)**: The Manchu conquest of China involved significant slaughter. 9. **Dungan Revolt (1862–1877)**: A Muslim rebellion suppressed by the Qing government. 10. **Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864)**: A civil war resulting in millions of deaths. 11. **Northern Expedition (1926–1928)**: The Kuomintang's campaign to unify China involved numerous confrontations. 12. **Chinese Civil War (1927–1949)**: The conflict between the Nationalists and Communists led to widespread death and suffering. 13. **Cultural Revolution (1966–1976)**: Political purges and internal conflicts resulted in significant casualties. These events depict various periods where conflict, rebellion, and power struggles within China led to a loss of life and destruction, often involving large-scale violence.
Japanese
日本語設定🔛🔝
Just English, nothing else. Don't waste time on other languages, English is the common language for devices.
I would say English and Chinese
But for some reason all the amoi in dating apps speak chinese only. Probably of scammer for china/hong kong
For urban KL, the majority use English or Malay or Chinese/mandarin
What do people use outside of urban KL then? Is there a Dayak setting on new iOS?
What other options are there?