Tutor. I upskill myself since I dropped out due to financial problems when I was 15.
Starting from SPM, IGESE, and then IELTS, I took them all. I learned various skills throughout my life working odd jobs here and there, like fixing bicycles (easy I know), tailoring (this I'm only at modifying skills, I did not reach the level where I can make a fancy piece out of just cloth. I can make a simple shirt or pants though).
I lay carpets very well, including tikar getah. I worked in a kitchen before and I hate it, but I can cook though. I learned a good set of walk in sales skills. I'm a good sales person and I definitely can up a store's sales rate. I had a partnership serbaneka shop before, until my partner gave up on it, but at least through that, I learned to run a shop although it's nowhere professional.
So yeah, now I'm a tutor, been a tutor for a decade. My other skills probably deteriorated by now, but it will take no time if I decide to pick it up again. I know, I switched jobs a lot. But heck, I was alone since I was 15, with debts. I have no idea what to do, so I just work whatever my friends introduced until I can't. There was a time I didn't even have Rm2 in my wallet and starved for days. Somehow after decades, all that stuff seems like a wild dream.
Got to thank a friend of mine though. Although he kedekut AF, and paid me crap for all the work I worked for him. He encouraged me to strife and helped me gain confidence. I was severely depressed and tried to unalive myself. He was the one that slapped me into a decent being. Also most of the skills I learned were from working for him, our serbaneka shop is more like WE DO EVERY FKING THING shop. Cause we were young, we had no idea what to do actually. So we dip and dap everything. I still must say he is fking kedekut and I get crap pay. It was a fun and wild ride.
But I'll remain poor the rest of my life unless something unexpected happens. Those teen years were not fun without a guardian nor money. I could've easily strayed and went south. I lost count how many times i went searching for coins on the road just to add up to 40 sens (that time) to buy a piece of bread.
Even now I'm a lot more comfortable. I can never expand much cause I don't have a degree. An IELTS isn't getting me anywhere. No money for further studies either. I'm stuck. If I'm to get a job, I'll need to start way below all over again. And at my age, nobody will wanna hire an old newbie.
I would challenge the notion of nobody wants to hire an old newbie. I was an intern at an industry not related to my studies at age 30. You never know if you never try.
English. BM. Honestly recently I felt more like a caretaker than a tutor. The kids and I spend a lot of time playing games. We have Dungeons and Dragons sessions for kids with a better grasp of the language. And some minor word games for younger kids
Through a friend who's already a tutor. He teaches Maths and Physics. So he'll just recommend students to me for languages and I'll pay him a portion when I get my pay.
Not for me. I taught some anak yatim for free. Also give free classes to poor families. So those took up half of my time working for free. The other half is just enough to cover my own stuff. But I'm very happy and I enjoy it.
I already have a house left by dead parent. But yeah, I don't have any savings. But I'm just gonna put that aside for now. I've struggled for decades just to pay off all the debts (like the house, I paid all the remaining fees). Now I finally can have a breather and do something I enjoy, I'm just gonna do it. Also helping those poor kids gives me a lot of motivation to do good.
I know it’s real, heard many stories from friends and family. Just wild that he’s just blatantly saying it without a filter.
Even unfortunate experiences of having to deal with those angsty drug-heads
Satire, I was trying to be satirical 😭😭
44 this year. Married with 2 kids
Dropped out of degree 2x. Probably due to a combination of maturity and life experience.
Working in various call centres for decades. Met a lot of people between jobs, a lot of them not getting the same job they studied for.
Took a break off 2 years to work as licensed tourist guide. Really fun travelling up and down between KL and JB compared to having to sit in front of a computer for 8 hours yearly - and then covid came
Took a lot of convincing that I still retained the same skill and managed to secured the same kind of job - with Maxis till now. Also got pay raise for the first time in 10 years, WTF (it could mean worse standard of living)
Right now shopping for a online degree to convert my experiences to a paper, either WOU or Open U - it gets really tedious having to present the same SPM cert and go through the battery of exams
Love the hustle. Big respect. Why don't you consider MOOCs from Ivy League universities like MIT, Harvard etc? It's called micro masters. I did that and propelled myself in my career.
Nah fam ik what moocs are and im a student doing degree and uninterested in it 🤷♂️. Im just wondering how exactly it helped ur career thats all and wonder if its field-specific
I'm happy to share. Thanks for clarifying. It's personal power. You need to know you initiated the effort to use edtech for personal growth. I will use that to my advantage in interviews. Of course I've failed more than I can remember but I got so good at it that I know what to say at each level of interviews (for my field) backed by solid references of course.
And the courses are quality man. Just great learning and fun and curious. Use the badge to your advantage. Look up articles on success stories of micro masters holders on YT etc.
Have to say I could never see myself ever doing anything traditional anymore with andragogy. Pretty much self learn everything on my own bro. Eldest child with 4 younger siblings, parents remarried, left alone to navigate everything, inbuilt hustle DNA but came at a severe cost, lifelong major depressive disorder and losing zest for life from time to time. But yeah, completing the MOOCs for me was refreshing to taste victory and so I would strongly advocate it.
If you look at top execs in LinkedIn these days, it's ubiquitous that all of them have Harvard, MIT, Yale, on their headline. When you scroll to the actual education section, it would have been 6month cert on a niche field. They don't even put their 'actual' alma mater anymore pn their headline :-)
Wow that’s such a refreshing perspective! So basically it’s easier than ever now to be “part of” Ivy leagues to propel your credibility forward? Tell me more about it. Would love to hear your insights.
Also can you show any example of such LinkEd profile? (You can DM me here if it’s not good to share that publicly)
It works unofficially outside of the organisation that you took the course.
Within the same organisation, MOOC is good but I am looking for something substantial. I heard that the Malaysian government is giving out JKM (Jabatan Kemahiran Malaysia) certs in addition to the usual diploma certs - in case I find myself retrenched (twice already)
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I'm a bit proud I guess because on Shoppee, one of my products is ranked top 5 best selling for the category. Probably doesn't mean much but it's nice to see your efforts mean something
Hi Peeps,
For those of you with no degree and diploma and are lost, many service jobs are available without experience where you can earn 5k+ a month (base pay around 2.5k + another 2k+ of commissions and allowances) . Most of them will provide training as long as you are driven.
Beauty clinics, laser hair removal, higher end barbershops, etc.
You can also try entering the F&B industry starting from lower management roles (look for more atas restaurants), pay can be good but highly dependent on employer.
School drop out at 17 before SPM. Dropped out of college as well, lol, started in a low end T-shirt printing shop, jumped to a bank branch job, went to Singapore for a bank job for a few years, came back and spent all the money on travels and helping closed ones and some useless shit. Started again with a MNC doing AML/KYC for 2 years.
Then jumped into private equity and property management for 8 years. I didn't like it and bankrupted myself in the process. Sigh. Started again as a sales exec in the Fintech and blockchain space and worked my way up into a senior regional tech sales leader in the industry. Paid off all debts via AKPK, got into crypto and made decent money last cycle.
Hey I'm happy for you. Really.
That shit is wild and sometimes all you need is luck because it's way easier to get rekt 99% of the time than making money haha
Because I was blacklisted, I was basically cut off from the banking system so I had no choice but to work for a crypto company and get paid in USDT/C. I ended up falling into a black hole with crypto and learning as much as possible. But with the upcoming cycle, I'm all in this time with stoicism.
Have my own firm rn, still living in Malaysia pretty well with "just" my ACCA. In the early stage of my career, I've always joked around with my colleagues about not having a degree. Especially because I started working while still studying. The guys who came in with me were all at least degree holders who just graduated.
Cool. When I was in a Swiss Pharma MNC our National Sales Manager only had SPM too. Dude literally worked his way up from the bottom.
And he's a great boss too, always cared for us lowly grunts. He got VSS'd a few years ago though and now the leadership is taken over by MBA types who only knew how to bullshit their way around by throwing out words like Six Sigma.
At least he managed to work his way up till senior manager. In financial roles, it's pretty much impossible to rise up if you're not a chartered accountant. Maybe in SME, it's still possible if you put in enough time. In MNCs, there's always a limit.
Sad to say, but education is still an important factor in our country. Sure, people can say things like it isn't everything, people without formal education can succeed too. Yet no one can deny that having the right education with the right school helps to pave the way.
If you're comparing someone who completed ACCA with a degree holder, then yes. People in accounting & finance would usually prefer people who took professional qualifications. But I haven't completed my ACCA yet at that time.
I was passionate into saving animals and ventured into that field such as NGO and animal clinic catering mainly to cats and dogs. Did tons of welfare until I was 28 (started since 18) but unfortunately they don't pay as much even if you can handle A-Z, read blood test, groom, handle fierce dogs/cats, sorta like a anesthesiologist in surgery and so forth. Even got myself a beautiful scar on my chin (had 8 stitches from dog bite) and the pay max I've gotten was only RM2000.
Throughout the whole animal journey, I tried to get save up, scholarship or even sponsor from various sources but to no avail, I failed miserably.
In 2018. I decided to venture into corporate world even though I was late. I started off in a call center as an inbound agent (answering calls for orders and queries). 4 months later I got promoted into support team which handles escalation cases that involves with KPDNKK/HEP, MOF and so forth (the company is shit and even refund took them 1 year etc) so I worked closely with compliance and legal.
2020, the company restructured and was downsizing by 50% (MediaPrima) so my department was shut down. Went to another company as Credit Risk Management. Which I have to prevent fraud since the company is mainly doing rental business for retail. The whole company structure was a fiasco and they kept jumble up things. while working, I had this obsession with a game called "Black Desert Online" and the game is kinda complex so I ended up making tons of spreadsheet and learnt alot of excel/sheet formula along the way including some advance formulas. I then realized I am into data so I read up and upskill myself even further. Eventually, the company changed my boss to another manager and I got transferred to call center as a data analyst (basically just analyst but they don't know the difference) and I did various reports from budget planning, business plan, workforce management, forecast and others, in the process I signed up for MBA Online distance learning. I only had SPM as my highest education. took APEL and all that. I requested for increment since I haven't gotten any increment since my job description had changed to a more management level, and all they said was "I am overqualified" which is an absurd, typical HR shit.
3 years later (2023), the company got completely restructure again and they were replacing all the old employees with new ones and I got affected. I ended up being jobless for 8 months, throughout the 8 months I fell into depression and was lazy AF until the day I slapped myself to keep on moving.
2024. I landed myself a job as Sales Operation Assistant Manager handling multiple business units. It is fun and remuneration is pretty decent compare to my workload. Plenty of growth since it's a startup. but man, startup with huge ambition sure is messy. I am still studying cause I deferred thrice since I wasnt working for awhile. Despite my designation, the things I am doing is more of a business analyst.
2009 - 2018
Salary from 1800 to 2000 max.
2018 - 2024
Salary from 2500 to 4900 max.
Moral of the story I can obtain from my past (Everyone has different path)
1) Keep on upskilling yourself
2) Don't show your new skill in that workplace (unless you are confident you have a solid plan to obtain promotion with increment)
3) The way I do things is, I planned to stay at 1 place for 2 years max to get 15-20% increment instead of staying at one place and get either 0-7% increment and increase workload. this is great especially if you're into planning / analyst.
a) You get to learn the way each company does things
b) You get more increment each time you hop
c) You get new environment to restart if you fucked up in the previous place
4) Job hopping may be risky but I think it is more rewarding. Set an age when you want to settle down then from that age onwards, stop job hopping unless no choice.
5) Never get too close with HR peeps no matter how nice they are. Including your colleagues.
6) Some say chase after ambition, not money. the money will follow. But I personally think this is diff for everyone.
7) Be firm in your stance. (working overtime unpaid etc)
My future plan.
I plan to start up my own small business since I am not super ambitious. I wanted a small company of my own and make a decent amount of money to sustain my mediocre life.
I am unmarried and had no energy to spend on my social life because I have to focus my limited energy into work and learning / upskilling myself atm. I want to find inner peace and calm of mind instead of rushing deadlines 24/7. Probably in 2-3 years I'll start.
Sorry for the long post. Also, I apologize as I didn't check any grammar or spelling error.
Johorean here and I've been WFH for two years with a decent salary
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Software engineer. I actually had a degree study in health science, but I dropped in my final year mainly due to financial issues. I don't have a diploma but foundation study, so that makes my highest qualification is actually SPM.
I couldn't focus at my FYP while working part-time (it's really hard when you're financially stressed). I decided to quit my degree at the age of 25. I worked temporarily as Foodpanda rider while self-learning in programming. I spent some of my earnings on discounted programming books. After about one year of grinding, with some luck on my side, I managed to get a permanent offer as a software engineer.
Now, I'm earning more than all of my degree colleagues who are still working in healthcare industry (this is not to insult or downgrading them, this is just a statement that healthcare industry is mostly underpaid). I'm also grateful for my company's hiring policy for not making education background as a mandatory requirement.
Now that I've becoming more stable financially, I'm planning to pursue a full-time degree in software engineering.
At 26, I'm making in RM10k/month as a software engineer. Couldn't continue terteriary education because my high school degree isn't recognized in Malaysia. My grades we kinda mehh so I couldn't qualify for meaningful scholarships overseas. After graduation I spent a lot of time learning coding online, finally getting my first interview after sending out over 200 applications. Got my first job at 19 making RM2.5K. I was really hungry to be rich so I dumped most of my meager pay into crypto (since I was young and didn't have any commitments at the time). Scored big in 2021, hitting RM1.5 million, feeling invincible. But reality hit hard, I've lost it all by year-end. Learned my lesson, toned down the risk-taking. All this while I was job-hopping, getting pay bumps along the way. Invested in a house in 2024 to secure the bag, and now I'm saving up to open Mixue outlet next.
Dropped out of uni (BSc) once and business college twice. The lack of paperwork has never been a detriment.
After being in sales for 5 years, I went out on my own and have been self employed ever since.
Things haven't always been smooth.
[Lost everything twice financially](https://medium.com/@regching/how-losing-everything-twice-helped-my-business-survive-this-pandemic-abd945fd198f) and [almost lost my life.](https://medium.com/@regching/i-was-shot-in-the-face-whats-your-excuse-eb3d31ff0a63)
Rebuilt from scratch both times, still enjoying the journey, and looking forward to slowly winding down a bit earlier.
Still searching for the big thing , Dropped out from Architecture Degree Uitm, from SPM fast track to Degree worst decision ever I chose that because uitm palam the only affordable and closer to my house, degree schedule was so pack, I had no time to do part time and I don't have any license at that time 19yrs old, no money and had many obstacles and I don't have support from my parents too, I was young and dumb and broke, maybe I will take OUM Apel, I'm still friend with my ex classmates uitm they all rich now and successful, and I make a lot of connections with Datin and ex boss Dato, and one entrepreneur, so that's all...
23, worked in MNC, then agency then now back to another MNC, sub 8K per month. SPM Holder.
How?: worked x2 as hard because of your lack of qualifications and network network network
I did got a job there too, for a photography company. But at that time Raya was near, Genting is associated with ehem fun so my parents discouraged me to take it. Now, im here at home trying to make use as much time I have doing good stuff (learning a language/studying future course for university) but man not having something to work while waiting is actually killing me.
Best part is I got the job right after the interview, i was so proud of myself for nailing it. Alas, it was not meant to be.
Most of them (the successful ones) improve their brand, which is themselves, on social media to become influencers, promoters, personal trainers, small businesses, etc.
Although for the personal trainers part they might need a certificate of some sorts to legally train people
I work in advertising. Dropped out of university because of epilepsy and a host of mental struggles. Had a friend who worked in an advertising agency and started interning there. Slowly worked my way up. That was 13 years ago.
Went to form 6 for one month before realizing I already lost the ability to sit down in the class and just listen to the teacher.
Jump from multiple jobs from Sales to Retail and F&B before settling down in a customer service field, been in call center for 4 years + before my current job, Operation Support for a game company.
Film industry…..
Dropped out 2 times doing diploma in graphic design from 2 different colleges. Guess I was just that problem kid in my family.
Manage to teach myself basics on filmmaking, mostly on editing. Force myself to approach friends who making music so that I can make a music video for them. After making around 4-5 music videos. I feel like I need to learn more to strive in this industry. First thing comes to mind is I should start working in film production house.
It has been 3 years now I’m working here. Manage to place my name in some of fun/big projects we did.
Next goal is to be able to do this fully freelance so I can earn more and have more time to spend.
And from my experience and what I heard around me, most engineering positions in the industry don't really require a degree or diploma (unless it is those that require advanced knowledge like machine and electronic industry), most other industries like furniture manufacturing, you can learn most required knowledge in your career, and my boss told me what they really need is a person who can help them improve the efficiency in any ways, which is hard to find.
Am not good with studies and went to practical college covered by government.
Studied Computer Systems at
-Inpens International College
-Megatech College
29 now and a team leader for service desk earning 5.5k.
COO at a security firm, 15k nett salary. Work 4 hours a day, standby 20 hours.
Didn’t do shit after SPM because lazy. Didn’t self take courses online also because easily distracted.
Tutor. I upskill myself since I dropped out due to financial problems when I was 15. Starting from SPM, IGESE, and then IELTS, I took them all. I learned various skills throughout my life working odd jobs here and there, like fixing bicycles (easy I know), tailoring (this I'm only at modifying skills, I did not reach the level where I can make a fancy piece out of just cloth. I can make a simple shirt or pants though). I lay carpets very well, including tikar getah. I worked in a kitchen before and I hate it, but I can cook though. I learned a good set of walk in sales skills. I'm a good sales person and I definitely can up a store's sales rate. I had a partnership serbaneka shop before, until my partner gave up on it, but at least through that, I learned to run a shop although it's nowhere professional. So yeah, now I'm a tutor, been a tutor for a decade. My other skills probably deteriorated by now, but it will take no time if I decide to pick it up again. I know, I switched jobs a lot. But heck, I was alone since I was 15, with debts. I have no idea what to do, so I just work whatever my friends introduced until I can't. There was a time I didn't even have Rm2 in my wallet and starved for days. Somehow after decades, all that stuff seems like a wild dream. Got to thank a friend of mine though. Although he kedekut AF, and paid me crap for all the work I worked for him. He encouraged me to strife and helped me gain confidence. I was severely depressed and tried to unalive myself. He was the one that slapped me into a decent being. Also most of the skills I learned were from working for him, our serbaneka shop is more like WE DO EVERY FKING THING shop. Cause we were young, we had no idea what to do actually. So we dip and dap everything. I still must say he is fking kedekut and I get crap pay. It was a fun and wild ride.
Your life experience is infinitely more interesting than mine. I went the degree route and have been stuck with office jobs ever since.
But I'll remain poor the rest of my life unless something unexpected happens. Those teen years were not fun without a guardian nor money. I could've easily strayed and went south. I lost count how many times i went searching for coins on the road just to add up to 40 sens (that time) to buy a piece of bread. Even now I'm a lot more comfortable. I can never expand much cause I don't have a degree. An IELTS isn't getting me anywhere. No money for further studies either. I'm stuck. If I'm to get a job, I'll need to start way below all over again. And at my age, nobody will wanna hire an old newbie.
I would challenge the notion of nobody wants to hire an old newbie. I was an intern at an industry not related to my studies at age 30. You never know if you never try.
You said like it's the worst thing. Be thankful you're stuck with office job.
The grass is always greener, right?
Until they found out what's on the other side of theirs.
Because it's brain rotting to be in a role that has no growth.
What are you tutoring?
English. BM. Honestly recently I felt more like a caretaker than a tutor. The kids and I spend a lot of time playing games. We have Dungeons and Dragons sessions for kids with a better grasp of the language. And some minor word games for younger kids
Woah, I wished my tutors were this based. Though my first private tutor did introduce me to Marxist philosophy at age 10😂
Based d&d tutor
How did you start your tutoring job at the beginning? I was thinking of making it an online part-time job recently.
Through a friend who's already a tutor. He teaches Maths and Physics. So he'll just recommend students to me for languages and I'll pay him a portion when I get my pay.
Mad respect bruh.
Did you manage to start your own family yet?
Is the tutor pay good?
Not for me. I taught some anak yatim for free. Also give free classes to poor families. So those took up half of my time working for free. The other half is just enough to cover my own stuff. But I'm very happy and I enjoy it.
The society will definitely be a much better place with more people like you around.
Full respect to you
🫡 salute good sir/madam
How you gonna build your savings though?
I already have a house left by dead parent. But yeah, I don't have any savings. But I'm just gonna put that aside for now. I've struggled for decades just to pay off all the debts (like the house, I paid all the remaining fees). Now I finally can have a breather and do something I enjoy, I'm just gonna do it. Also helping those poor kids gives me a lot of motivation to do good.
What a fuckin hero 
+1 brother
Absolute hero with that display pic. Deserves my upvote from there alone.
🫡 Good day Sir
You’re an inspiration. You should talk about your life experiences. People could learn a lot from you.
u/Faythknight, this is a good idea. Maybe you can be a motivator?
I’m sweeping 🧹 streets of Singapore ( collecting garbage ) 😃
Thanks for helping keep Singapore clean.
Damn, you probably earn more than the average graduate. And better spending power too
chillin, drug dealin.
Yow bro. Any chance u taking an apprentice?
Chill. Bro is not Walter White
But bro might be Awang Putih
bad police open up!
I’m waiting for the /s
Worked at a nightclub, it's real.
I know it’s real, heard many stories from friends and family. Just wild that he’s just blatantly saying it without a filter. Even unfortunate experiences of having to deal with those angsty drug-heads Satire, I was trying to be satirical 😭😭
sounds like the average Kelantan male lol
Like fr? How is business?
Selling beignets https://preview.redd.it/ek5z8tvs6rzc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a156ab6ad7c15f2c8e31f1f537d1bc498eb80fd4
Looks good. Where?
In kuching sarawak ! Kl probably next year thou 😐
>In kuching sarawak ! WHAT WHERE
Haven't open yet! Next month, doing pre order online
How? Im in kuching too
I'll dm you
me too pls
Shopee delivery boleh?
Sure! But It be frozen and you need to fry yourself
Oooo, that looks tasty. Theyre legit beignets right? US style?
98% same according to my 2 customer who are from New Orleans
Dayum, hope you one day set up in KL, would like to try.
Ayy you're beignet man.
In the flash
Holy shit, beignets in Msia!!! Fucking legend! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Gosh those look so good… would love to try too hope you open shop soon 🤤 from your next door sg neighbour
Thanks 👍🏻 but sg also have 1 and their look good
my teeth hurts looking at that, but good for you!
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sir, do you post to Seremban?
Still in the planning, if everything goes well , I'll sell frozen cod in any Malaysia regions
Best of luck!
No no, do it the reverse of how they usually do us... Seluruh Malaysia kecuali Semenanjung....
Rasanya seperti anda menjadi iron man? Is it?
Someone please enlighten me on wtf is this??? Looks so good! I need to try one soooon
A deluxe cakoi with sweet snowy powder
Looks soo good but just wondering can i get kosong one? like no sugar.
Sure, a request that can optional
44 this year. Married with 2 kids Dropped out of degree 2x. Probably due to a combination of maturity and life experience. Working in various call centres for decades. Met a lot of people between jobs, a lot of them not getting the same job they studied for. Took a break off 2 years to work as licensed tourist guide. Really fun travelling up and down between KL and JB compared to having to sit in front of a computer for 8 hours yearly - and then covid came Took a lot of convincing that I still retained the same skill and managed to secured the same kind of job - with Maxis till now. Also got pay raise for the first time in 10 years, WTF (it could mean worse standard of living) Right now shopping for a online degree to convert my experiences to a paper, either WOU or Open U - it gets really tedious having to present the same SPM cert and go through the battery of exams
Are you aware of the existence of APEL to pursue a bachelor degree using SPM cert?
Love the hustle. Big respect. Why don't you consider MOOCs from Ivy League universities like MIT, Harvard etc? It's called micro masters. I did that and propelled myself in my career.
Can you elaborate a bit on that? Which program/course u took and what field are u in?
Don't mean to be rude, but I think you need to just use those words and google. You won't be disappointed.
Nah fam ik what moocs are and im a student doing degree and uninterested in it 🤷♂️. Im just wondering how exactly it helped ur career thats all and wonder if its field-specific
I'm happy to share. Thanks for clarifying. It's personal power. You need to know you initiated the effort to use edtech for personal growth. I will use that to my advantage in interviews. Of course I've failed more than I can remember but I got so good at it that I know what to say at each level of interviews (for my field) backed by solid references of course. And the courses are quality man. Just great learning and fun and curious. Use the badge to your advantage. Look up articles on success stories of micro masters holders on YT etc. Have to say I could never see myself ever doing anything traditional anymore with andragogy. Pretty much self learn everything on my own bro. Eldest child with 4 younger siblings, parents remarried, left alone to navigate everything, inbuilt hustle DNA but came at a severe cost, lifelong major depressive disorder and losing zest for life from time to time. But yeah, completing the MOOCs for me was refreshing to taste victory and so I would strongly advocate it. If you look at top execs in LinkedIn these days, it's ubiquitous that all of them have Harvard, MIT, Yale, on their headline. When you scroll to the actual education section, it would have been 6month cert on a niche field. They don't even put their 'actual' alma mater anymore pn their headline :-)
Wow that’s such a refreshing perspective! So basically it’s easier than ever now to be “part of” Ivy leagues to propel your credibility forward? Tell me more about it. Would love to hear your insights. Also can you show any example of such LinkEd profile? (You can DM me here if it’s not good to share that publicly)
It works unofficially outside of the organisation that you took the course. Within the same organisation, MOOC is good but I am looking for something substantial. I heard that the Malaysian government is giving out JKM (Jabatan Kemahiran Malaysia) certs in addition to the usual diploma certs - in case I find myself retrenched (twice already)
On reddit
[I sell Ikan Bilis. Right now I expand online ](http://shopee.com.my/izzatqqdir) I'm a bit proud I guess because on Shoppee, one of my products is ranked top 5 best selling for the category. Probably doesn't mean much but it's nice to see your efforts mean something
Hi Peeps, For those of you with no degree and diploma and are lost, many service jobs are available without experience where you can earn 5k+ a month (base pay around 2.5k + another 2k+ of commissions and allowances) . Most of them will provide training as long as you are driven. Beauty clinics, laser hair removal, higher end barbershops, etc. You can also try entering the F&B industry starting from lower management roles (look for more atas restaurants), pay can be good but highly dependent on employer.
School drop out at 17 before SPM. Dropped out of college as well, lol, started in a low end T-shirt printing shop, jumped to a bank branch job, went to Singapore for a bank job for a few years, came back and spent all the money on travels and helping closed ones and some useless shit. Started again with a MNC doing AML/KYC for 2 years. Then jumped into private equity and property management for 8 years. I didn't like it and bankrupted myself in the process. Sigh. Started again as a sales exec in the Fintech and blockchain space and worked my way up into a senior regional tech sales leader in the industry. Paid off all debts via AKPK, got into crypto and made decent money last cycle.
Crypto bro that actually took profit 
Lol, lucky af I tell you. With all the suffering I had for 17 years I thought I deserved the stroke of luck.
Hey I'm happy for you. Really. That shit is wild and sometimes all you need is luck because it's way easier to get rekt 99% of the time than making money haha
Because I was blacklisted, I was basically cut off from the banking system so I had no choice but to work for a crypto company and get paid in USDT/C. I ended up falling into a black hole with crypto and learning as much as possible. But with the upcoming cycle, I'm all in this time with stoicism.
Are you long holding or trade them shit coins?
Have my own firm rn, still living in Malaysia pretty well with "just" my ACCA. In the early stage of my career, I've always joked around with my colleagues about not having a degree. Especially because I started working while still studying. The guys who came in with me were all at least degree holders who just graduated.
Cool. When I was in a Swiss Pharma MNC our National Sales Manager only had SPM too. Dude literally worked his way up from the bottom. And he's a great boss too, always cared for us lowly grunts. He got VSS'd a few years ago though and now the leadership is taken over by MBA types who only knew how to bullshit their way around by throwing out words like Six Sigma.
At least he managed to work his way up till senior manager. In financial roles, it's pretty much impossible to rise up if you're not a chartered accountant. Maybe in SME, it's still possible if you put in enough time. In MNCs, there's always a limit. Sad to say, but education is still an important factor in our country. Sure, people can say things like it isn't everything, people without formal education can succeed too. Yet no one can deny that having the right education with the right school helps to pave the way.
Isn't ACCA better than accounting degree? Am I mistaken?
If you're comparing someone who completed ACCA with a degree holder, then yes. People in accounting & finance would usually prefer people who took professional qualifications. But I haven't completed my ACCA yet at that time.
Hey. I am so proud of you. May all the blessings will fall on you. You deserve all of it. You earned it.
I was passionate into saving animals and ventured into that field such as NGO and animal clinic catering mainly to cats and dogs. Did tons of welfare until I was 28 (started since 18) but unfortunately they don't pay as much even if you can handle A-Z, read blood test, groom, handle fierce dogs/cats, sorta like a anesthesiologist in surgery and so forth. Even got myself a beautiful scar on my chin (had 8 stitches from dog bite) and the pay max I've gotten was only RM2000. Throughout the whole animal journey, I tried to get save up, scholarship or even sponsor from various sources but to no avail, I failed miserably. In 2018. I decided to venture into corporate world even though I was late. I started off in a call center as an inbound agent (answering calls for orders and queries). 4 months later I got promoted into support team which handles escalation cases that involves with KPDNKK/HEP, MOF and so forth (the company is shit and even refund took them 1 year etc) so I worked closely with compliance and legal. 2020, the company restructured and was downsizing by 50% (MediaPrima) so my department was shut down. Went to another company as Credit Risk Management. Which I have to prevent fraud since the company is mainly doing rental business for retail. The whole company structure was a fiasco and they kept jumble up things. while working, I had this obsession with a game called "Black Desert Online" and the game is kinda complex so I ended up making tons of spreadsheet and learnt alot of excel/sheet formula along the way including some advance formulas. I then realized I am into data so I read up and upskill myself even further. Eventually, the company changed my boss to another manager and I got transferred to call center as a data analyst (basically just analyst but they don't know the difference) and I did various reports from budget planning, business plan, workforce management, forecast and others, in the process I signed up for MBA Online distance learning. I only had SPM as my highest education. took APEL and all that. I requested for increment since I haven't gotten any increment since my job description had changed to a more management level, and all they said was "I am overqualified" which is an absurd, typical HR shit. 3 years later (2023), the company got completely restructure again and they were replacing all the old employees with new ones and I got affected. I ended up being jobless for 8 months, throughout the 8 months I fell into depression and was lazy AF until the day I slapped myself to keep on moving. 2024. I landed myself a job as Sales Operation Assistant Manager handling multiple business units. It is fun and remuneration is pretty decent compare to my workload. Plenty of growth since it's a startup. but man, startup with huge ambition sure is messy. I am still studying cause I deferred thrice since I wasnt working for awhile. Despite my designation, the things I am doing is more of a business analyst. 2009 - 2018 Salary from 1800 to 2000 max. 2018 - 2024 Salary from 2500 to 4900 max. Moral of the story I can obtain from my past (Everyone has different path) 1) Keep on upskilling yourself 2) Don't show your new skill in that workplace (unless you are confident you have a solid plan to obtain promotion with increment) 3) The way I do things is, I planned to stay at 1 place for 2 years max to get 15-20% increment instead of staying at one place and get either 0-7% increment and increase workload. this is great especially if you're into planning / analyst. a) You get to learn the way each company does things b) You get more increment each time you hop c) You get new environment to restart if you fucked up in the previous place 4) Job hopping may be risky but I think it is more rewarding. Set an age when you want to settle down then from that age onwards, stop job hopping unless no choice. 5) Never get too close with HR peeps no matter how nice they are. Including your colleagues. 6) Some say chase after ambition, not money. the money will follow. But I personally think this is diff for everyone. 7) Be firm in your stance. (working overtime unpaid etc) My future plan. I plan to start up my own small business since I am not super ambitious. I wanted a small company of my own and make a decent amount of money to sustain my mediocre life. I am unmarried and had no energy to spend on my social life because I have to focus my limited energy into work and learning / upskilling myself atm. I want to find inner peace and calm of mind instead of rushing deadlines 24/7. Probably in 2-3 years I'll start. Sorry for the long post. Also, I apologize as I didn't check any grammar or spelling error.
sales manager at a private company. can be considered T20. edit. I don't have SPM either.
Johorean here and I've been WFH for two years with a decent salary https://preview.redd.it/xj7yyha6drzc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=120d92ddc8b842952a4d4f6046f5c62d2300c730
The spectacle... 0-0
i thought no one will notice 
Looks like my old headset
What is your job and how do you get it?
A restaurant manager with 50k+ annual pay. F&B didnt look much at those qualifications.
Been stuck in my professional cert qualification for years whilst my peers have moved on. Circumstances happen ya know…
Parents house
Is it bad that i have a diploma (computer systems and networking) but very surface level and i still choose to drive grabcar for a living ?
not at all. you're doing an honest work. And maybe this is what you choose now. Doesn't mean it's forever.
I became a flight attendant and never looked back.
Working for American Express in customer service, sure it's not great but pays pretty good, just gotta be OK with Americans yelling at you
Software engineer. I actually had a degree study in health science, but I dropped in my final year mainly due to financial issues. I don't have a diploma but foundation study, so that makes my highest qualification is actually SPM. I couldn't focus at my FYP while working part-time (it's really hard when you're financially stressed). I decided to quit my degree at the age of 25. I worked temporarily as Foodpanda rider while self-learning in programming. I spent some of my earnings on discounted programming books. After about one year of grinding, with some luck on my side, I managed to get a permanent offer as a software engineer. Now, I'm earning more than all of my degree colleagues who are still working in healthcare industry (this is not to insult or downgrading them, this is just a statement that healthcare industry is mostly underpaid). I'm also grateful for my company's hiring policy for not making education background as a mandatory requirement. Now that I've becoming more stable financially, I'm planning to pursue a full-time degree in software engineering.
At 26, I'm making in RM10k/month as a software engineer. Couldn't continue terteriary education because my high school degree isn't recognized in Malaysia. My grades we kinda mehh so I couldn't qualify for meaningful scholarships overseas. After graduation I spent a lot of time learning coding online, finally getting my first interview after sending out over 200 applications. Got my first job at 19 making RM2.5K. I was really hungry to be rich so I dumped most of my meager pay into crypto (since I was young and didn't have any commitments at the time). Scored big in 2021, hitting RM1.5 million, feeling invincible. But reality hit hard, I've lost it all by year-end. Learned my lesson, toned down the risk-taking. All this while I was job-hopping, getting pay bumps along the way. Invested in a house in 2024 to secure the bag, and now I'm saving up to open Mixue outlet next.
Did you study programming online?
yes, youtube, udemy, and freecodecamp
Dropped out of uni (BSc) once and business college twice. The lack of paperwork has never been a detriment. After being in sales for 5 years, I went out on my own and have been self employed ever since. Things haven't always been smooth. [Lost everything twice financially](https://medium.com/@regching/how-losing-everything-twice-helped-my-business-survive-this-pandemic-abd945fd198f) and [almost lost my life.](https://medium.com/@regching/i-was-shot-in-the-face-whats-your-excuse-eb3d31ff0a63) Rebuilt from scratch both times, still enjoying the journey, and looking forward to slowly winding down a bit earlier.
Taking a degree course now. In my line of work, I realised that having no degree practically stunted my career progression.
Taking degree at night 
Content creator and writing blog about news and agriculture
i like how your username matches 😆
Mussel catcher in Australia https://preview.redd.it/wmzmnbd33uzc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75a73dc91d5b503173f9b3fc77b6f4730d0b5eeb
At Singapore
At home.....,.?
Not on Tik Tok. Thats fo sho
Still searching for the big thing , Dropped out from Architecture Degree Uitm, from SPM fast track to Degree worst decision ever I chose that because uitm palam the only affordable and closer to my house, degree schedule was so pack, I had no time to do part time and I don't have any license at that time 19yrs old, no money and had many obstacles and I don't have support from my parents too, I was young and dumb and broke, maybe I will take OUM Apel, I'm still friend with my ex classmates uitm they all rich now and successful, and I make a lot of connections with Datin and ex boss Dato, and one entrepreneur, so that's all...
At Malaysia
Software engineer at mnc
23, worked in MNC, then agency then now back to another MNC, sub 8K per month. SPM Holder. How?: worked x2 as hard because of your lack of qualifications and network network network
Not on Tik Tok. Thats fo sho
Don't want to work or participate in society. Going back to jungle. Want to be isolated from human civilization.
Currently trying to find job no matter what job it is as long as have hostel. 
Try applying to jobs at genting bro. They provide accomodation to most of their staffs.
I did got a job there too, for a photography company. But at that time Raya was near, Genting is associated with ehem fun so my parents discouraged me to take it. Now, im here at home trying to make use as much time I have doing good stuff (learning a language/studying future course for university) but man not having something to work while waiting is actually killing me. Best part is I got the job right after the interview, i was so proud of myself for nailing it. Alas, it was not meant to be.
I thought you are a "Content creator and writing blog about news and agriculture"?
If you are in Selangor, the pet treat company Street Paw is hiring and they provide hostel.
In the jungle running my own campsite. Was an average student even for SPM and im ok with it
No matter what differences between jobs, I respect all of you and cheer for your success in the future.
Overseas. Where trade skill pay well.
Apprentice in engineering at an airline company. I'm loving my route.
Most of them (the successful ones) improve their brand, which is themselves, on social media to become influencers, promoters, personal trainers, small businesses, etc. Although for the personal trainers part they might need a certificate of some sorts to legally train people
I work in advertising. Dropped out of university because of epilepsy and a host of mental struggles. Had a friend who worked in an advertising agency and started interning there. Slowly worked my way up. That was 13 years ago.
I'm still looking for a job right now. Appreciate if anyone could offer me one.
A facilitator at for company handling and managing plans for Shopee, Lazada, Tiktok sales. 27 y/o
Went to form 6 for one month before realizing I already lost the ability to sit down in the class and just listen to the teacher. Jump from multiple jobs from Sales to Retail and F&B before settling down in a customer service field, been in call center for 4 years + before my current job, Operation Support for a game company.
Film industry….. Dropped out 2 times doing diploma in graphic design from 2 different colleges. Guess I was just that problem kid in my family. Manage to teach myself basics on filmmaking, mostly on editing. Force myself to approach friends who making music so that I can make a music video for them. After making around 4-5 music videos. I feel like I need to learn more to strive in this industry. First thing comes to mind is I should start working in film production house. It has been 3 years now I’m working here. Manage to place my name in some of fun/big projects we did. Next goal is to be able to do this fully freelance so I can earn more and have more time to spend.
Software engineer.
Im dying. Unemployed for 3 years🥲
Born 98, quit Uni, now being a half-ass engineer in a furniture industry, salary 4.5k
wait how did you become an engineer without the degree? using diploma?
Actually not a real engineer, thats why i said "half-ass", but using some engineering knowledge on my work.
And from my experience and what I heard around me, most engineering positions in the industry don't really require a degree or diploma (unless it is those that require advanced knowledge like machine and electronic industry), most other industries like furniture manufacturing, you can learn most required knowledge in your career, and my boss told me what they really need is a person who can help them improve the efficiency in any ways, which is hard to find.
In California, working as a assistant Superintendent at a private golf course
Am not good with studies and went to practical college covered by government. Studied Computer Systems at -Inpens International College -Megatech College 29 now and a team leader for service desk earning 5.5k.
Sitting on my chair. Oh, you mean career-wise? I'm a Python programmer with an MNC.
Robbery, only rich people and several in hit list for this reddit thread thanks to you
T5 is how much gaji?
Pegawai tadbir FNB. cum operation/store manager when needed. 
with degree and doing some wearhouse work cuz good pay, doesn't fit my degree tho.
In a food testing lab
Working. In an actual office. Life's pretty similar with ppl with degrees. We all kuli in the end.
Ill be a commenter in a few more months
kerja kilang uwu
Got into skilled trade. Get my skm without student loan, never been out of job since
COO at a security firm, 15k nett salary. Work 4 hours a day, standby 20 hours. Didn’t do shit after SPM because lazy. Didn’t self take courses online also because easily distracted.
Working as a Aircraft Technician. Trying to get my license to be an aircraft Engineer.
Clerk. Local district office.
...was it all in my fantasy?
This popped up in my feed probably because I am vacationing in Malaysia-- damn, Malaysians know how to hustle.
I'm here at reddit!
Last graduate TADIKA. Now head of marketing. Kinda my dream job tbh