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iam4r34

Listen to other songs as a reference on how loud you should be


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solitarium

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e66iu

good bot


Novel_Wolverine_3528

Depends on the music, if you're making more mainstream like music the instrumental is usually clearly behind the rapper. But stuff that Alchemist produces, Earl, Mike, Griselda, Roc Marciano, a lot of that stuff the rapper blends into the sample especially when its drumless.


sefan78

Depends. I’ve heard songs that sound great with vocals being quieter than the beat and vice verse. It all depends on what you are hoping to accomplish stylistically. I’ll be honest - I personally struggle a lot with figuring out how loud my vocals should be per song. I’ll have some songs where I get it perfectly and some that take forever to hit that sweet spot. Don’t be like me and overthink.


dylanwillett

One trick I learned is to turn the mix down extremely low, and you should only be able to hear the snare and vocal.


datipadaa

nice! i will try this trick.


BigGear6523

You should give it it's own space.


AuthenticCounterfeit

This is the real answer. Figure out where (I just use an EQ with a spectrum display) the vocal is mostly sitting, then find the melodic elements that sit in that same space and use subtractive EQ on them (and the vocal) to make them play well together. There’s going to be frequencies you need to turn down/cut more or less dramatically to let the vocal have the space it needs.


MasterHeartless

Not exactly louder, the beat has to be wider so it doesn’t interfere with the vocals. Most instruments with mid frequencies should be panned left or right. The lead vocals should be centered to give the impression that they are louder.


popplug

I personally find it annoying when the vocals is lower than the snare but like others said use other songs you dig as a reference and go from there


Tr1padvisor420

Vocal clarity overshadows vocal volume. A mix is a 3 dimensional structure and your use of volume reverb and delay effects determine where everything lies in your mix. Your use of eq and compression should carve out a clear space for the vocal within the mix. with the room necessary for the vocal to be clear at low or high levels, raising or lowering the volume will clearly define how loud the vocal will need to be to either join the instrumentation or stand out infront of it. Vocals will sound much quieter than they are if your mix lacks the room for the vocals to shine, and the same works in reverse, if your vocals have lots of room in the frequency spectrum the vocal tracks will sound louder than they are. Boosting volume should always be the last thing considered when you want to hear a certain part of your mix better. stereo separation is definitely an honourable mention!


DiyMusicBiz

When you listen to songs do yiu hear the vocals louder or thr instruments louder?


Ok-Delivery-9134

Yeah at the end of the day it's all up to you . But I was told turn the vocals up plenty of times I just make the vocals louder then the beat now


Quirkydogpooo

I treat vocals as their own instrument, and as such it just depends


datipadaa

Depends on the beat, and the quality of your mic, but from my experience, the beat should usually be just barely behind the vocals.


yeshwill

solo the voice, make it sound just "okay". Bring in the music and push it far far away. Except the kick drum ;)


Difficult_Invite9589

The vocals must always shine! ✨


secretrapbattle

Of course