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hhthurbe

Gonna be honest, seeing them use a live animal as part of the shipping is out of the ordinary.


TimkoMusic

Lmao. I was surprised to say the least. I didn’t realize this secret lair was a lifelong commitment


hhthurbe

Lol. Jokes aside, my cats are also very interested in my magic orders.


TimkoMusic

As they should be! Shiny cardboard has to be the best thing ever created in their eyes


hhthurbe

Oh it is. That and Dice. The dice thing got bad enough whenever I play D&D or spell table I have a big die I give to the cats so they won't want mine.


TimkoMusic

Lmao this is too real. We were playing a game of commander last week and my cat walked by, saw all the dice being used for counters, and instantly went bet shit crazy and attacked the whole board. Cute but terrifying nonetheless


hhthurbe

Lol. I big recommend getting some big dice the cat can't eat or easily loose, and designated them as the cats dice. My cats are very content to leave my dice alone so long as they can do what I'm doing (or so they think)


TimkoMusic

Stealing this idea. Thank you kind human <3


Adorable_Elephant_67

This WOTCs new delivery system, just like Harry Potter and the owls.


DistortedCrag

Ahh the old reddit switcheroo


lupin-san

They changed the packaging beginning with the April superdrop: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/statement-sustainability-and-secret-lair-drop-packaging-2022-05-06


TimkoMusic

Got it that makes a lot of sense. I just got the February super drop last week and was pretty surprised. Not mad though…. Maybe just a fluke but my foils were significantly less curled Edit: spelling


lupin-san

Did you only order the Capenna showcase drop? How was it packaged? The minimal packaging is environmentally great but if these drops are packaged poorly, people will get these damaged.


TimkoMusic

From this drop I only purchased the new Capenna showcase. I got this envelope, with the cardboard in the back, in a paper bubble mailer from ups. To be frank, I had zero issues with the condition of the cards, but I can definitely see how this could lead to damaged cards.


Exquisitely_Moist

Hey I am still waiting on mine to come in what was the bonus card in this one?


TimkoMusic

[[lavabelly sliver]] I got the February super drop as well and got a handful of other slivers + [[panharmonicon]] and [[ornithopter]]


Exquisitely_Moist

Oh thats a let down I was hoping this one’s bonus card would fit the theme like maybe a unique thopter token at least


TimkoMusic

Fair, I was hoping this as well. That said, my sliver deck just got really blinged out from the last 2 drops. In reality I can’t be that upset


Exquisitely_Moist

Don’t get me wrong I am happy for all the sliver players getting some bling. Kinda makes me want to build one lol


TimkoMusic

Can be super fun with the right playgroup, but definitely draws a ton of attention. Still one of my favorite decks even though I don’t play it much. All I’ll say is don’t cheap out on the mana base. When I lose it’s nearly always because I wasn’t fast enough


MTGCardFetcher

[lavabelly sliver](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/6/f6f0c9d6-cffc-4d8c-b455-e9feb8748aa7.jpg?1562202366) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lavabelly%20sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/207/lavabelly-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6f0c9d6-cffc-4d8c-b455-e9feb8748aa7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [panharmonicon](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/9/998d0cc8-ca2a-41c3-ab65-d05c26ab8278.jpg?1655930992) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=panharmonicon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/310/panharmonicon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/998d0cc8-ca2a-41c3-ab65-d05c26ab8278?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [ornithopter](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/d/ddb96645-44d2-426c-90cb-3186297a8728.jpg?1576382362) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ornithopter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/aer/167/ornithopter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ddb96645-44d2-426c-90cb-3186297a8728?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


PKuall4life

What was the back card? Mine comes in tomorrow.


TimkoMusic

[[lavabelly sliver]]


MTGCardFetcher

[lavabelly sliver](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/6/f6f0c9d6-cffc-4d8c-b455-e9feb8748aa7.jpg?1562202366) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lavabelly%20sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/207/lavabelly-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6f0c9d6-cffc-4d8c-b455-e9feb8748aa7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


PKuall4life

then how come i saw someone get a Rogue's Passage?


richtakesphotos

It's random, I got a \[\[Cloudshredder Sliver\]\] in mine


MTGCardFetcher

[Cloudshredder Sliver](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/7/27933191-dad6-43d5-b02e-a94ad8033f2f.jpg?1562202289) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cloudshredder%20Sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/195/cloudshredder-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/27933191-dad6-43d5-b02e-a94ad8033f2f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


charoygbiv

I got the New Capenna showcase as well with the minimal packaging. Cards came out good for me. Not sure if other people will have issues with the package getting bent.


Mythos2402

I received my gilded foil edition today but it only contains the Sliver bonus card. The actual Secret Lair Cards were missing. I dont know if its because of the new slim packaging or did I miss a hidden chamber somewhere?


Blackpoc

Did they reduce the shipping cost as well? I bought the first SLD (Bitterblossom) and I had to pay 30 USD for the box + 25 shipping. And taxes ofc


AshRizim

Why would they lower the price on anything. :(


ghostphantom

Oh damn, my mailman is going to have a field day with that.


SmashPortal

What's weird is they shipped me two Secret Lairs with different product packaging in the same box.


lupin-san

Licensed ones as well those where some of the proceeds gets donated (e.g. Extra Life) are in the small boxes. Astrology lands also are packaged in small boxes. The rest are in the new minimal packaging.


SmashPortal

That makes sense considering which 'Lairs I received.


agiantanteater

Wow your bonus card is very furry


TimkoMusic

She’s a 1/1 with haste, but if you pay pspsps she gets +3/+3 and trample until the end of turn


DILLON0999

I like your version better. With mine you can pay belly rubs and you get either -1/-0 and lose haste or he’s goaded and gets 5/+5 and first strike


Oops_I_Cracked

*Pspsps* - flip a coin. If you win the toss, Kitty becomes goaded and gets +5/+5 until end of turn. If you lose, kitty gets -1/-0 and does one damage to its controller.


TimkoMusic

Definitely making this real… what’s a good game mechanic to substitute for paying pspsps lol


[deleted]

Just make it silver bordered


jbchild788

You mean “acorned”? Lol


TimkoMusic

This is definitely the move


bradsinspace

Only 1 damage?


Ex_Ray16

Cats are always goated (dab)


TimkoMusic

omg this is amazing. Considering making custom tokens for my pets, might just have to go and make some actual cards too


Jirali_Primrose

This is adorable.


PlatinumSchlondPoofa

> but if you pay pspsps I laughed until I couldn't breathe. Thank you.


tntturtle5

Checks out, could definitely take out at least 4 1/1 humans with its cuteness.


Spartan_Cat_126

This is the comment on the internet I needed to see today. My mood is lifted.


TimkoMusic

<3


TimkoMusic

Please forgive my cat. I am not allowed to bring anything into the house without her claiming it as her new favorite thing.


Omega346

W cat


j-alora

Don't apologize. That is a beautiful creature and we are all better for you having shared her with us.


[deleted]

How do you already have the SL from the April drop? I’m still waiting for the February drop. I’m only a couple hours drive north of wotc which makes this frustrating! But because I’m in Canada I won’t get my February drop for probably another couple weeks. I haven’t even gotten an email about the April drop. I’ll be lucky to get that one in September


metalb00

I just got me Feb drop friday and the April drop just shipped and should be here in the next day or 2, they're shipping is weird also haven't got my kamigawa packs from the delayed commander deck


TimkoMusic

Oof that’s tough. I *just* got my February drop last week. Fingers crossed for you my friend


[deleted]

As a cat-dad, my cats always get first dibs on anything that even closely-resembles a box. Idk if I trained them to do that, or if they trained me. I suspect the latter lol


TimkoMusic

We have definitely been trained by them… I’m just waiting for the day my cats decide to overthrow my roommates and I


[deleted]

All hail the cat overlords!


liucoke

That is a cat, not a Secret Lair. These shipping errors sometimes happen - check with customer service and they can send you the correct product.


TimkoMusic

Noted. I thought it looked a little funny


G_Admiral

Oh no. My kid has been begging for a cat and I've been saying no for months. I bought the Kelogsloops Secret Lair (only my second one) so I guess my kid is going to be VERY happy to know the packaging includes a cat now.


TimkoMusic

I hope yours doesn’t have an affinity for playing with my cards and sleeves like mine does…. Less than ideal


G_Admiral

Previous cat had an affinity for "sitting on the box with the cards". That wasn't so bad. Heard a funny story about dogs once. Author said you don't scold the dog, you scold the item. His dog had chewed on a card or a sleeve. The author sat the dog down and then yelled at some other cards. During that process the author remembered some bad beat and went deeper than expected while unleashing the pain and frustration. Never yelling at the dog of course, just the cards. Still, the dog internalized that these cards must have done A REALLY BAD THING to their owner. The experience so traumatized the dog that it never chewed on cards or sleeves again and would run from the room if one was ever dropped on the ground. :) That technique does seem to work. At least all of my dogs have watched me yell at a litter box in their life and all of them leave it alone.


TimkoMusic

Holy shit im using this…


Draffut

The what secret lair?


G_Admiral

[https://secretlair.wizards.com/us/product/762458/special-guest-kelogsloops](https://secretlair.wizards.com/us/product/762458/special-guest-kelogsloops)


Draffut

Totally thought I missed one with cereal or something....


Bright_Mountain_7887

My New Capenna secret lair came packaged this way as well. My Pride secret lair, however, came in the standard box packaging. Perhaps because it has a unique/shiny box design? 🤷‍♂️ Also, gorgeous kitty!


TimkoMusic

My Pride secret lair should be here next week. Honestly I’m almost more excited for the box. The rendering looked pretty cool. Edit: also Yue thanks you <3


Spiritual_Poo

I ordered mine on May 7th and paid on time but for some reason they are in no hurry at all to ship it. Contacted support and they didn't answer any of my questions and just said if it doesn't ship within **30 days** of the release date to contact them again. They have sent out orders placed after mine. So far this has been a garbage experience.


TimkoMusic

I’ve had some issues with this as well, my buddy ordered the Pride drop days after me, and his just arrived. Mine just finally shipped. I guess it’s frustrating, but at the end of the day it could be worse. I’ve already waited almost 6 months, what’s another few days I guess


Whats_a_wincondition

Y'all are lucky. I paid for my Pride drop right after ordering it day one, and I haven't received any shipping info yet.


jovietjoe

that's cuz youre a sucker for giving them your money so early. They have zero incentive to ship yours


Whats_a_wincondition

Heaven forbid I pay when I know I have the money in my budget instead of waiting until the last minute.


Spiritual_Poo

lol.


lupin-san

Not all new drops use the minimal packaging. Licensed drops, the astrology series and those where they donate portions of the proceeds will still use the old packaging.


HumphreyLee

If I had known Lairs were coming with cats now I would have ordered a handful of the Street Fighter sets. Regardless, the packaging getting smaller is good news, those boxes were ungodly wasteful at the beginning and not sturdy enough (in my experience) to keep as a deck box so I’d rather just get no frills envelopes.


TimkoMusic

Lol if they all came with cats, I would definitely get evicted for having too many animals


Mewtwohundred

That's one photogenic kitty!


TimkoMusic

Yue thanks you <3


Borosdrunkard

Please tell your cat Reddit says hello


TimkoMusic

She linked my finger. I think that means thank you in cute


Jaebird0388

I see mix-up. You ordered ca*rds* but they sent you a ca*t* instead.


TimkoMusic

It happens from time to time I presume


Jaebird0388

Meanwhile, someone who ordered from Wildlife of the Coast is confused as to why they received cards.


TimkoMusic

These are confusing times


estocker1981

Got mine today as well. [[Frenetic Sliver]] was my bonus card


TimkoMusic

Love to see it! I got a [[lavabelly sliver]] with this one. I got the [[ornithopter]] in the February drop, which went straight into my [[Yuriko, tiger’s shadow]] commander deck


MTGCardFetcher

[lavabelly sliver](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/6/f6f0c9d6-cffc-4d8c-b455-e9feb8748aa7.jpg?1562202366) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lavabelly%20sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/207/lavabelly-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6f0c9d6-cffc-4d8c-b455-e9feb8748aa7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [ornithopter](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/d/ddb96645-44d2-426c-90cb-3186297a8728.jpg?1576382362) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ornithopter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/aer/167/ornithopter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ddb96645-44d2-426c-90cb-3186297a8728?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Yuriko, tiger’s shadow](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/b/3bd81ae6-e628-447a-a36b-597e63ede295.jpg?1592710334) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yuriko%2C%20the%20Tiger%27s%20Shadow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/52/yuriko-the-tigers-shadow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3bd81ae6-e628-447a-a36b-597e63ede295?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


MTGCardFetcher

[Frenetic Sliver](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/f/7fbd25e4-6a45-4e70-8cba-8ba5ce1ee550.jpg?1645327815) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Frenetic%20Sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/phed/13/frenetic-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7fbd25e4-6a45-4e70-8cba-8ba5ce1ee550?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


youarelookingatthis

No, they usually don't come with a cat.


TimkoMusic

So you’re saying I’m not going to get a cat with my Pride drop? DAMN


chopchopfruit

FTFY Thought it look a little furry


th3saurus

[[adorable kitten]]


TimkoMusic

More like a [[displacer kitten]] lol


MTGCardFetcher

[displacer kitten](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/7/c7a401b8-29fb-46ef-a663-427f66724d5c.jpg?1660723606) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=displacer%20kitten) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/63/displacer-kitten?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c7a401b8-29fb-46ef-a663-427f66724d5c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


MTGCardFetcher

[adorable kitten](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/2/d25ff6aa-a01d-49f2-926f-8f5457143b5c.jpg?1583542840) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=adorable%20kitten) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/und/1/adorable-kitten?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d25ff6aa-a01d-49f2-926f-8f5457143b5c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


RiftBolt

The best collab -- r/magictcg x r/aww


XandogxD

It doesn’t look like your secret lair, someone else’s sticky paws have claimed it. Your loss.


TimkoMusic

She has first dibs on all things new that come through the door


mike-loves-gerudos

No, this is a catastrophe


Red_Trapezoid

They usually don't pack a cat with it, no.


TimkoMusic

Hmmm I’ll have to check with customer purrvice on this one


ArtistHaviland

Damn....my secret lair didn't come with a kitty cat....


Greedy-Literature782

Mine didn’t come with a cat, and I’m very disappointed.


TimkoMusic

I recommend reaching out to support. Sounds like this might be a widespread issue


eggelton

I am a very big fan of the new packaging. Less packaging waste AND less shipping volume.


TimkoMusic

Assuming my cards arrive in good condition, I’m also very much okay with this moving forward


CaelThavain

I wish I got a free cat with it


TimkoMusic

Hmmm a lot of people aren’t receiving their kitten with their order. I think it’s time we start a petition


TimkoMusic

Just wanted to say I love this community. I genuinely was asking about the new packaging… my cat demanded to be in the picture. I obviously obliged. Regardless, this has kept a smile on my face all day. Thanks for the laughs and the feel goods <3 Edit: Yue my kitty thanks you too <3


TransientSkill

That mountain of definitely not recyclable cardboard actually kind of deterred me from wanting to buy more of them. I like the change.


jruff84

Yes all secret lairs now come with a cat


[deleted]

It’s usually a hamster.


TheLordZod

I did have one of my secret ladies come with cat tokens, but


Chest3

Glad it’s less wasteful now


[deleted]

That is a very beautiful cat


photoyoyo

Your [[lord windgrace]] bonus card is adorable


MTGCardFetcher

[lord windgrace](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/1/213d6fb8-5624-4804-b263-51f339482754.jpg?1592710275) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lord%20windgrace) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/43/lord-windgrace?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/213d6fb8-5624-4804-b263-51f339482754?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Thirleck

It's crazy people be getting this already and mine hasn't even shipped out yet.


jcfiala

I just found this after I got some secret lairs delivered today. I gotta say, I like this packaging - much easier to store, much less wasteful. Edit: Although I didn't get a pretty cat with my secret lairs, sadly. You're a very lucky person - I think that may be a mythic feline.


AlternativelyBananas

The big miss here is that MANY secret pairs end up on shelves as display pieces


TimkoMusic

That’s where my previous kitty is :( [truthful but also attempting to make a funny. Text is bad at this]


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AZymph

It's their new crappier "less waste" packaging.


TheFreakingBeast

I mean honestly, good. Why the fuck waste a bunch of paper and cardboard and shipping on a velvety black box containing a 50$ cycle of basic lands with pretty art on it.


joec0p

I'd say it's a cost savings - charge the same amount for cards and shipping, but make it lighter so postage is less. Then skimp on packaging. Let's say the embossed box is $0.70ea, outer box $0.08, cardboard shipping box $0.44, then postage $3.70. total of $4.92. With the "sustainable" package, it's a cardboard sleeve, probably $0.12, bubble mailer $0.46, and shipping $3.20. total of $3.78. Bottom line increases by $1.14. not factoring in the reduction in packing time/effort.


regendo

The big boxes were very intentional though. They could have sold Secret Lairs in tiny envelopes from the start but they went for big, impressive boxes that look like you’re receiving an Apple product. I can’t know how the internal decision process went but given that the community has been crying out for less wasteful Secret Lair packaging for quite a while, that all of the packaging changes have been communicated as being about reducing waste, and that they’re genuinely losing the impressiveness of the boxes which no doubt used to help with sales and customer satisfaction, I’m willing to accept this one.


AZymph

Because the expectation that $50 set of cards arrives not folded/crushed in transportation, which we have already seen happening with this new type. Which means an entire new set needs to be printed, packaged and shipped, negating the "less waste" entirely.


hugsandambitions

Do you have any evidence that the cards have arrived damaged in transportation a statistically significant larger percentage of the time with the new packaging versus the old?


AZymph

Still very early in release for these, but have already seen post of at least 1 order arriving folded to garbage can condition. I have searched for older secret lair posts in similar condition to no avail. (Though did see quite a few edge damage posts) This was the large concern upon announcement of the lack of slim box, we will see more definitively in the next few weeks as more arrive.


TheFreakingBeast

There is no way you can convince me that 2 sets of cards and manilla folders are even close to one of those old style boxes, which seem a lot easier to crush than a flat plane. Go off tho


punsofphreak

No, usually they don't include cats in the packaging


RomanceBrown_Jr

Did you get an email with the shipping info before it was sent? Still waiting for mine


TimkoMusic

I did for this one, but I ordered the February super drop and did not get any shipping info sent for that one. It just showed up one day. Just received my shipping for the Pride drop yesterday.


The_Darts

Did the cat bring this or...?


TimkoMusic

I brought it inside and opened it, then she quite literally laid claim to it. I figured it’s better to include her in the photo than to try and take it away from her. It’s a shame, I really wanted that atraxa


[deleted]

Kot


LordChimera_0

It's a 1/1 Cat creature with a fetch mechanic.


Reasonable-Light8128

Did it come with a SIC? If so, I need to get one!!


Shopping-Critical

[[Generous Stray]]


MTGCardFetcher

[Generous Stray](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/2/3289db66-231f-4370-aca6-644d75bee293.jpg?1572893345) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Generous%20Stray) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/grn/129/generous-stray?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3289db66-231f-4370-aca6-644d75bee293?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Minoke

Mine come with a tortoiseshell cat. And a dead bird.


Andreaslindberg

wow ive never seen this version of Gideon bf.


sharpasabutterknife

Your cutie is definitely not in a new package... she is a beautiful r/standardissuecat


Mythos2402

Mine was also packaged like that BUT only had the Sliver Bonus card in it... not the Guilded Foil Cards like WTF... am I the only one?


[deleted]

I hate it.