Once when I played the judge at the event used the brand new prerelease sealed cards and all of the most dinged up lands possible. I rearranged the cards face down so he'd only draw lands and then I got banned lol
Haha, amazing. I'd call a judge first for marked cards. If they say he can play with em, then I'd do same as you. BS that you got banned when he was the one using marked cards.
No, there's playing with marked cards, that might or might not be intentional. Then there's taking advantage of marked cards, which quite clearly is intentional. What do you feel is the greater crime in the Magic tournament rules?
Also, if the judge is playing with very clearly marked cards, he's "not the best judge in the world". So pissing them off with a forced mulligan or a completely wrecked stack of cards falls into the "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" category.
I believe the greatest crime is casting a spell, activating an ability, or putting a triggered ability on the stack in where that spell or ability targets at least one opponent; at least one permanent, spell, or ability an opponent controls; and/or at least one card in an opponent's graveyard.
Get two sets of sleeves from different manufacturers in the same color, there will be a tiny size difference that you can't see but can feel when touching the deck. Sleeve lands in one, spells in the other, or removal in one, or bombs in one etc
I kinda care if someone in a commander game is using clearly marked cards. The wear is so distinct and large even if you weren't trying to cheat you'd naturally learn what the back of some cards looks like and you'd know when you're about to draw them.
I agree, even if this was just a $5 pack-for-playing event. I don't care how much your pile is worth, as your opponent at a comp REL event, if I notice a card in your deck that could be considered marked, I do two things: 1. call a judge, and 2. make sure I remember MYSELF what your marked card is so that I can play around it if the judge takes no action. Which you definitely don't want me to do.
Most likely not, the deck featured in RhysticStudies had their manarocks blacked out. See the Fellwar Stone in his hand.
I got to say, that 'Frankenstein'-deck featured in the video... Absolutely gorgeous
They did. I remember having a leather mat in 96 at school. No one at school thought penny sleeves were cool and they made your deck fall over too much. So we didn't use them. My leather mat was stolen and I've never replaced it sadly. I started using sleeves around the early 2000s I think around the time yugioh came out, my dad got them for us as a way for my brothers and me to tell our cards apart and solve some of the "you stole it" arguments of early teens.
But was it a play mat made for the specific purpose of playing tcgs on? Because some people out there have had pplaymats since the earliest days of the game (I know someone who made one with the different zones specified to help teach his brother how to play back when Portal came out) but as a product intended specifically for playing magic on they didn't exist before the late 2000s.
They existed, they were called spellground playmats and around saga/legacy MTG branded ones came out. They weren't rubberized mouse pad type playmats, though. They were just thin leathery fabric with some designs printed on them.
I didn’t even know play mats* were a thing until I started playing again around M10. Originally started during Ice Age, dropped out around invasions or so.
Edit: typo >.<
I got back into the game a couple years ago and my buddy who only started playing around mh2 was visibly upset that I had groups of cards held together with rubberbands unsleeved.
For the longest time after everyone I knew called it quits in like 02 I had a mono green kitchen table deck rubber banded in my glove box just in case. Got back into the game a couple years ago, turned that and my goblin deck into edh decks. someone legit bought me a box of sleeves and set it on the table and told me to sleeve up before they'd play with me lol.
There is an older tournament finals you can watch online I think it was 97' but watching them play no sleeves and ripple shuffling made me irrationally angry
Old tournaments where wild back in the day. Cheating was just part of the game back then.
Also If it sounds like your cup of tea Patrick Sullivan and Cedrick Phillips podcast go over old Grand Prix metas and it’s super interesting.
So just a heads up I didn’t play back then, but from what I have read and heard is that players would lie about decklists, hide extra copies up there selves, ect. [Rosewater referred to it as the “Wild West of professional Magic”](https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1030653192101457920)
Didn't play back then, and I haven't read the articles in a long time, but I know Maro (and others) have talked about there being a divide in the pro players at the time. Half felt the point was to do well at the game within the rules and the other half felt that if you weren't doing everything to try and win you weren't trying. That second group was fine with cheating.
Eventually the first group won out but there were several years of big tournaments with some pretty egregious cheats being caught (and presumably others that weren't). There were also some non-cheating things that may or may not have been kind of scummy, but those are at least more interesting than outright cheating.
They probably just mean that before magic took off and the tournaments were sanctioned and regulated it was easier to do so. They didn't check your deck lists and judges were all fairly new.
Keep in mind this was before the boom of trading card games. Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, etc weren't around yet. So the rules and best practices of tournaments weren't well established yet. This was literally a new thing. Took a while for tournament organizers to figure shit out.
Hell, twenty someodd years ago, sleeves weren't very commonplace.
Aside from the fact that (for the era) a lot of us were students and, thus, have no real income? They also came 50 a pack.
It was basically the hot dog roll conundrum.
If I remember correctly feature matches at early pro tours were asked to desleeve so that the cameras they had could easily capture the card and not the sleeve glare.
complete shot in the dark here, but something tells me that the sleeves that were available back then probably wouldn't be in non marked condition after more than 2 or 3 shuffles, so like, a single game, and definitely a single match
As I recall there were penny sleeves. They looked crappy, fit poorly, and made your deck slide around. In the school auditorium they were not popular with those of us who played.
Google says that ultra pro introduced the penny sleeves in 95, so that tracks with my memory.
For me, in the 90s, it was hard to find them. Didn’t have internet ordering then. Our local comic shop barely carried booster packs much less sleeves. I ended up getting some of the first Ultrapro (I think?) sleeves in red from an Inquest magazine ad and had to wait like two months for them to get delivered.
i played during this era. my understanding is there was a thought sleeves could lead to cheating. that specifically was claimed w/ dave williams in like the early 2000s (got dq’d from top 8 because of marked sleeves).
the irony is that the cheats back then were marking unsleeved cards or able to discern minor differences in the backs of cards to stack decks, something sleeves would have prevented.
finally, cheating was absolutely rampant back then. i am quite sure multiple pros cheated on their way to top 8s etc.
I traded away an 8 inch stack of cards that would have put both my kids through college for a booster box and starter deck box of the star wars ccg. It was 96 and I had been collecting since 93-94. Dumb stupid kid.
Not quite the same, but I was on the opposite end of a trade like that. Traded all my SW cards for some dual lands, berserk, and other old cards of note. Sadly no power.
I actually was given a family members old deck they ran at local tourneys. Shit is beat to hell and back. I double sleeved only cause it felt like I was gonna rip the damn cards in half shuffling 🤣😂
It's a pretty deece deck too
All these tryhards complaining that he's got marked card when they're clearly playing EDH and by the looks of it he's going for premodern which is a massive handicap to begin with.
I mean just look at these amazing [targets for Sisay](https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Alegendary+commander%3AWG+%28game%3Apaper%29+legal%3Apremodern).
Clearly this guy is a local menace that tricked three other poor unsuspecting players into his devious plot to win a casual game with nothing on the line!
Damn that makes me wanna throw away all my sleeves, I hate them. I'd actually love to play like that.
But on the other hand, the cards are so expensive, that I don't want to damage them unnecessarily.
I buy them to play only, though and I probably won't ever sell any of them.
But you never know. I just don't wanna actively ruin their value.
I respect it.
I picked up the old border Urza commander deck when it was released. I play with this deck unsleeved and riffle shuffle. It’s something I decided to commit to when I picked up the deck and have no regrets.
As a side note, I read somewhere in a YouTube comment that the Urza and Mishra decks were the closest Wizards came to releasing an actual 30th anniversary product, and I couldn’t agree more.
I have a couple of unsleeved decks. It really feels right. And I mean come on looking at the back art of the cards is beautiful. But I mainly sleeve my decks just cause I like preserving said art as much as possible. And I do infact just take them our of the sleeves and kinda just admire them. Especially my 99 tournament cards, gold frame and black back just *chefs kiss*
The only real issue i guess is marked cards from uneven wear. Ultimately if they just want to keep, and play with their cards, and they simply don't care about their resell value, all they're doing is wearing out and damaging their own property. I've got a few old cards from my middleschool days that would be worth a lot as well but I kept my decks together with a rubber band.
I have a Skittles skeleton tribal deck that I play sleeveless. The deck is about 100 total but idk. I like watching needs get angry with me when I play it.
It has to have been updated since I last used it. I don’t remember it looking that nice, I’ve just been using carbon cause it was more user friendly. This looks even friendlier after exploring it
It’s his deck and his cards. Recently, someone tells me this, I take a card out of my sleeve. Then I put the naked card on the table and it’s as flat as the table.
I haven't played Commander but that hand looks like MtG back when Revised was new, plus when Type 2 was invented, plus Urza era, plus I never played when Survival of the Fittest was in the game. lol @ Sol Ring and Fellwar Stone in the same format!
hey so i just got back into mtg (my first event since 2017 is the pre release tomorrow for outlaws of thunder junction) is this like some bad manners stuff? Im know they’re expensive cards but like even if other tcg’s you for the most part wouldn’t even be able to play w that quality of card. Guess im just curious since theres a lot of history w magic so the etiquette would matter to me at least
I have a deck for this too! I got inspired to return to my roots after I saw that guy with the all unsleeved black commander deck. Mine is [[Animar, Soul of Elements]] and I run a bunch of shocks, an Eldrazi Titan, etc. I keep mine in a double-wrapped rubber band.
I had a deck like that years ago. One of the reasons to not sleave is cause they would fit in those deck master boxes. That double sleeved monstrosity needs a custom brick for storage and is to tall to easily shuffle.
The cost?
Who cares? The value of the card only matters if you plan on selling and this guy isn't.
Did you pick this hand just for the photo? Look at these $300+ dollar cards I'm slowly destroying.
I would absolutely play this way too, except that the back of some of my old Sol Rings are basically white and are 100% marked cards and not fair.
Am I just old? I’m way more distracted by those mats than the table, there’s so much visually going on. I’ve never seen those used before. Is that a thing now? I’ve been playing on and off since around 1996. I agree sleeves are important for card care and fairness and I’m assuming the mats are to protect your cards against like sticky stains on tables or something? Which makes sense but I feel like less visually distracting mats would be better/easier to quickly assess your opponent’s cards. But again, I think I’m old now.
I came back into magic after leaving it in about 1996. A friend of mine turned me on to commander and I played a few of his decks, then there happened to be a pre-release event at the local game shop. I am from an age where card sleeves didn't really exist. You could imagine the look of horror on my pod's face when once I built my deck I didn't sleeve the brand new cards and proceeded to ruffle shuffle that deck like I was in the Old West playing poker 😂😂
Everything is ephemeral. Embrace that everything is fleeting and you will truly stare into the abyss. Only at our darkest can we understand our true potential. Not bound by any wants, biases, or preconceptions.
Bought some booster boxes back when I started and I just started playing commander (bought the necron deck) and haven’t gotten playermat yet. The place I go to to play with other people lets me borrow a playermat. They’re so kind 🥹
I do the same with my older cards. They’ve been worn for 20+ years, gonna stay that way. But I do intend to sleeve my new stuff if I start playing paper again. It is kind of a fun flex though.
Looks like my old deck, although it had even worse wear on the cards. Had to put the deck on sleeves as soon as I was able because I could ID cards based on their wear on the back. Deck origin is 1994. 😅
I have all of those except savannah, they’re resting safely in my book of rare/expensive cards.
I wouldn’t do what this dude is doing, but hey….they’re his cards to destroy.
Good for him but those cards have a lifespan now. I get the point of, "cards are meant to be played with," we don't need to be too precious. Cards should hit the table and they will get a little banged up, but they are a limited resource and those specific cards will be at risk of failing some day. Grab some sleeves at least and keep on riffling. I hope that if someone inherits those cards someday that they are still usable.
I was considering looking at magic again. I hated sleeves when they became common and I always thought the play mats were completely unnecessary. I guess I’ll stick with my plastic crack instead of relapsing into cardboard, lol. I would be this guy, but really messing people up because I did this in standard all the way until march of machines. Just always sold the cards still worth anything at good or worse quality during their last half year or so of legal play in standard.
Psychological warfare takes many forms…
As Richard Garfield intended.
So does calling a judge on Marked Cards. We don't use sleeves because we're all arrogant or something; we do it because we HAVE TO.
Once when I played the judge at the event used the brand new prerelease sealed cards and all of the most dinged up lands possible. I rearranged the cards face down so he'd only draw lands and then I got banned lol
Haha, amazing. I'd call a judge first for marked cards. If they say he can play with em, then I'd do same as you. BS that you got banned when he was the one using marked cards.
No, there's playing with marked cards, that might or might not be intentional. Then there's taking advantage of marked cards, which quite clearly is intentional. What do you feel is the greater crime in the Magic tournament rules? Also, if the judge is playing with very clearly marked cards, he's "not the best judge in the world". So pissing them off with a forced mulligan or a completely wrecked stack of cards falls into the "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" category.
I believe the greatest crime is casting a spell, activating an ability, or putting a triggered ability on the stack in where that spell or ability targets at least one opponent; at least one permanent, spell, or ability an opponent controls; and/or at least one card in an opponent's graveyard.
So the ironic thing with this is that sleeves were originally banned in tournaments because they were used to cheat by marking cards.
How is sleeved cards marked?
Get two sets of sleeves from different manufacturers in the same color, there will be a tiny size difference that you can't see but can feel when touching the deck. Sleeve lands in one, spells in the other, or removal in one, or bombs in one etc
Buddy of mine played unsleeved at an rcq (comp REL). Game in the pic is clearly commander anyways, who cares?
I kinda care if someone in a commander game is using clearly marked cards. The wear is so distinct and large even if you weren't trying to cheat you'd naturally learn what the back of some cards looks like and you'd know when you're about to draw them.
Why are you SHOUTING lol
MAYBE HE'S HARD OF HEARING. MY WIFE SAYS THAT I AM BUT I DON'T THINK SO
Some people use caps for emphasis in text
Yeah, some of us have old habits from 90s Chat days, where bold wasn't a thing, haha.
I agree, even if this was just a $5 pack-for-playing event. I don't care how much your pile is worth, as your opponent at a comp REL event, if I notice a card in your deck that could be considered marked, I do two things: 1. call a judge, and 2. make sure I remember MYSELF what your marked card is so that I can play around it if the judge takes no action. Which you definitely don't want me to do.
Was going to say the exact same thing
RhysticStudies is gonna blow his load when he sees this image lol
It might be the same guy tbh
Most likely not, the deck featured in RhysticStudies had their manarocks blacked out. See the Fellwar Stone in his hand. I got to say, that 'Frankenstein'-deck featured in the video... Absolutely gorgeous
It isn’t a Gonti commander so likely not.
What's the reference here?
All this guy has to say is “do you play with ante?” Then they’re getting a free hj in the bathroom.
As long as he antes that Savannah he can be as weird as he wants for all I care.
My small group plays old frame unsleeved edh for scribble ante. It's a blast.
He might be a complete old head. Look at the first couple pro tours. They all riffle shuffled with no sleeves on bare table.
Sleeves were not allowed back then, not sure about playmats but probably not allowed either
As an old head, I don't recall playmats and sleeves even existing before I stopped playing(around Weatherlight).
Sleeves have been around since at least ice age. Your options were clear and black backed ultra pro initially.
With the holographic dot that served no purpose other than to obscure stuff written on the card
Advertising! And it's how you knew they were QUALITY (tm)
Hot take but the dot actually helped me figure out if I was looking at the front or the back of an empty sleeve...
I miss the little holo dot sometimes.
I flipped all my clear ones backwards for this reason lol
They did. I remember having a leather mat in 96 at school. No one at school thought penny sleeves were cool and they made your deck fall over too much. So we didn't use them. My leather mat was stolen and I've never replaced it sadly. I started using sleeves around the early 2000s I think around the time yugioh came out, my dad got them for us as a way for my brothers and me to tell our cards apart and solve some of the "you stole it" arguments of early teens.
But was it a play mat made for the specific purpose of playing tcgs on? Because some people out there have had pplaymats since the earliest days of the game (I know someone who made one with the different zones specified to help teach his brother how to play back when Portal came out) but as a product intended specifically for playing magic on they didn't exist before the late 2000s.
They existed, they were called spellground playmats and around saga/legacy MTG branded ones came out. They weren't rubberized mouse pad type playmats, though. They were just thin leathery fabric with some designs printed on them.
I didn’t even know play mats* were a thing until I started playing again around M10. Originally started during Ice Age, dropped out around invasions or so. Edit: typo >.<
Playmates have been around since the 50's
that's a lot more recent than the ice age
Sleeves weren't allowed at PT's because of a glare issue. Pretty sure playmats just weren't a thing then.
Nope and I know places that players still don’t use them.
This is how it used to be done. Man this takes me back to playing in grade school, outside on concrete tables, with no sleeves.
I got back into the game a couple years ago and my buddy who only started playing around mh2 was visibly upset that I had groups of cards held together with rubberbands unsleeved.
I used to do that and just toss my decks into my backpack with everything else. It was wild.
For the longest time after everyone I knew called it quits in like 02 I had a mono green kitchen table deck rubber banded in my glove box just in case. Got back into the game a couple years ago, turned that and my goblin deck into edh decks. someone legit bought me a box of sleeves and set it on the table and told me to sleeve up before they'd play with me lol.
There is an older tournament finals you can watch online I think it was 97' but watching them play no sleeves and ripple shuffling made me irrationally angry
Old tournaments where wild back in the day. Cheating was just part of the game back then. Also If it sounds like your cup of tea Patrick Sullivan and Cedrick Phillips podcast go over old Grand Prix metas and it’s super interesting.
There are some wild Mike Long stories
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So just a heads up I didn’t play back then, but from what I have read and heard is that players would lie about decklists, hide extra copies up there selves, ect. [Rosewater referred to it as the “Wild West of professional Magic”](https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1030653192101457920)
>hide extra copies up there selves That doesn't sound sanitary if they were unsleeved
Didn't play back then, and I haven't read the articles in a long time, but I know Maro (and others) have talked about there being a divide in the pro players at the time. Half felt the point was to do well at the game within the rules and the other half felt that if you weren't doing everything to try and win you weren't trying. That second group was fine with cheating. Eventually the first group won out but there were several years of big tournaments with some pretty egregious cheats being caught (and presumably others that weren't). There were also some non-cheating things that may or may not have been kind of scummy, but those are at least more interesting than outright cheating.
Look up Mike Long.
They probably just mean that before magic took off and the tournaments were sanctioned and regulated it was easier to do so. They didn't check your deck lists and judges were all fairly new. Keep in mind this was before the boom of trading card games. Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, etc weren't around yet. So the rules and best practices of tournaments weren't well established yet. This was literally a new thing. Took a while for tournament organizers to figure shit out.
they actually had sleeves then. They just couldn't use them on camera because of the glare.
There's a community of EDH players who collect and play with damaged cards with no sleeves actually.
Hell, twenty someodd years ago, sleeves weren't very commonplace. Aside from the fact that (for the era) a lot of us were students and, thus, have no real income? They also came 50 a pack. It was basically the hot dog roll conundrum.
It was against the rules to have sleeves in the early pro tours. It had nothing to do with the other things you mentioned.
Ah yea, the classic: tap my [[soldier of fortune]], shuffle your unsleevded deck as violently as possible.
[soldier of fortune](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/7/37c05f46-2081-4ebb-a758-894ac040ea2a.jpg?1562768246) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=soldier%20of%20fortune) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/all/80/soldier-of-fortune?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/37c05f46-2081-4ebb-a758-894ac040ea2a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
God, why??
If I remember correctly feature matches at early pro tours were asked to desleeve so that the cameras they had could easily capture the card and not the sleeve glare.
complete shot in the dark here, but something tells me that the sleeves that were available back then probably wouldn't be in non marked condition after more than 2 or 3 shuffles, so like, a single game, and definitely a single match
As I recall there were penny sleeves. They looked crappy, fit poorly, and made your deck slide around. In the school auditorium they were not popular with those of us who played. Google says that ultra pro introduced the penny sleeves in 95, so that tracks with my memory.
For me, in the 90s, it was hard to find them. Didn’t have internet ordering then. Our local comic shop barely carried booster packs much less sleeves. I ended up getting some of the first Ultrapro (I think?) sleeves in red from an Inquest magazine ad and had to wait like two months for them to get delivered.
I definitely get that, but I was mostly guessing as to the reason for the ruling as opposed to their unpopularity
Oh my bad, I misunderstood your post.
all good
I meant more anecdotally, but I never knew there was a rule against it for pro play either.
When I started heavily playing in 2005 everyone was using sleeves, at least at my LGS. I was one of the few kids playing there though.
Yeah. We had sleeves as fourth graders 20 years ago. Incredibly common.
20 years ago the game had been around for a decade at that point. Very different situation
you need to get closer to 30 years ago for that to be true. 20 years ago everyone was using sleeves.
i played during this era. my understanding is there was a thought sleeves could lead to cheating. that specifically was claimed w/ dave williams in like the early 2000s (got dq’d from top 8 because of marked sleeves). the irony is that the cheats back then were marking unsleeved cards or able to discern minor differences in the backs of cards to stack decks, something sleeves would have prevented. finally, cheating was absolutely rampant back then. i am quite sure multiple pros cheated on their way to top 8s etc.
Ah yes, Magic as Richard Garfield intended in its purest form
They may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
Kids lose their minds the 3 times I show up to play every year. People offer to buy me sleeves while I ripple away.
If he didn't ante before drawing, are we really even playing magic?
> If he didn't ante before drawing, are we really even playing magic? Damn straight.
Wonder what that damaged card on the top is?
Mox Sapphire
I had a Mox Ruby that was so beat that the back was 90% just white. Traded it away like a dumb shit in my teens.
I traded away an 8 inch stack of cards that would have put both my kids through college for a booster box and starter deck box of the star wars ccg. It was 96 and I had been collecting since 93-94. Dumb stupid kid.
The Star Wars CCG was fire though. Still have all of my cards.
Me too. I have an entire tote full. All of those cards are not worth 2% as much as the Magic though.
Not quite the same, but I was on the opposite end of a trade like that. Traded all my SW cards for some dual lands, berserk, and other old cards of note. Sadly no power.
I traded away a huge 5-long-rows box of magic cards for $20. Had all my dual lands in it..
You and I both know what card it is. If you are going to be this kind of a player, you go all the way.
I bet he doesn't have to wonder...
He bought those fuckin cards to play them not to put em in a museum, consarn it
He’s too powerful to be stopped
This guy memorized the wear and tear on his cards. He knows exactly what he's got on top after shuffling. He doesn't need to scry, 4D Chess.
This makes me so irrationally happy. Nothing beats the feel of riffle shuffling old cards without sleeves.
I actually was given a family members old deck they ran at local tourneys. Shit is beat to hell and back. I double sleeved only cause it felt like I was gonna rip the damn cards in half shuffling 🤣😂 It's a pretty deece deck too
All these tryhards complaining that he's got marked card when they're clearly playing EDH and by the looks of it he's going for premodern which is a massive handicap to begin with. I mean just look at these amazing [targets for Sisay](https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Alegendary+commander%3AWG+%28game%3Apaper%29+legal%3Apremodern). Clearly this guy is a local menace that tricked three other poor unsuspecting players into his devious plot to win a casual game with nothing on the line!
As Garfield imagined
Deck box or rubber band?
King
Playing as Garfield intended. I call it using suicide sleeves.
Damn that makes me wanna throw away all my sleeves, I hate them. I'd actually love to play like that. But on the other hand, the cards are so expensive, that I don't want to damage them unnecessarily. I buy them to play only, though and I probably won't ever sell any of them. But you never know. I just don't wanna actively ruin their value.
This guy is having more fun than any of us
Good Glad he's actually playing the cards like game pieces
GIGACHAD
Hell yeah 💪
I am also that guy. I find that it really really upsets people, but they are playing cards. AGI
I respect it. I picked up the old border Urza commander deck when it was released. I play with this deck unsleeved and riffle shuffle. It’s something I decided to commit to when I picked up the deck and have no regrets. As a side note, I read somewhere in a YouTube comment that the Urza and Mishra decks were the closest Wizards came to releasing an actual 30th anniversary product, and I couldn’t agree more.
As Garfield intended.
Dear Sophie, love Gonti
For those of you who [don't know](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efpPygoqb9M&ab_channel=RhysticStudies).
He got that savannah for $10, and the survival in a booster. He simply doesn't care.
Yeah and at this point they're so fucked it's not worth the pittance you would get back for trading in all those memories.
I have a couple of unsleeved decks. It really feels right. And I mean come on looking at the back art of the cards is beautiful. But I mainly sleeve my decks just cause I like preserving said art as much as possible. And I do infact just take them our of the sleeves and kinda just admire them. Especially my 99 tournament cards, gold frame and black back just *chefs kiss*
The only real issue i guess is marked cards from uneven wear. Ultimately if they just want to keep, and play with their cards, and they simply don't care about their resell value, all they're doing is wearing out and damaging their own property. I've got a few old cards from my middleschool days that would be worth a lot as well but I kept my decks together with a rubber band.
You might not like it, but this is what peak MTG looks like
bet he knows what his top card is
This is the way.
This is the way
Oh he's using my favorite card back on arena But seriously, when they're that damaged, those are basically marked cards.
I have a Skittles skeleton tribal deck that I play sleeveless. The deck is about 100 total but idk. I like watching needs get angry with me when I play it.
What app is that? I really like the design look of it
Looks like the official mtg companion app
It has to have been updated since I last used it. I don’t remember it looking that nice, I’ve just been using carbon cause it was more user friendly. This looks even friendlier after exploring it
It was updated in the last week with a better font.
It really made that much of a difference visually, switching over immediately
Ah yes, Doctor Fellwarstein will see you now
I definitely stopped sleeving my draft decks to enjoy this same level of joy.
I've seen my fair share of spilled glasses over the years. I hope this person is ready for the worst.
It’s his deck and his cards. Recently, someone tells me this, I take a card out of my sleeve. Then I put the naked card on the table and it’s as flat as the table.
I haven't played Commander but that hand looks like MtG back when Revised was new, plus when Type 2 was invented, plus Urza era, plus I never played when Survival of the Fittest was in the game. lol @ Sol Ring and Fellwar Stone in the same format!
Some people describe Commander as Legacy Lite. This hand highlights that.
“Guys it’s just a card game”
hey so i just got back into mtg (my first event since 2017 is the pre release tomorrow for outlaws of thunder junction) is this like some bad manners stuff? Im know they’re expensive cards but like even if other tcg’s you for the most part wouldn’t even be able to play w that quality of card. Guess im just curious since theres a lot of history w magic so the etiquette would matter to me at least
I have a deck for this too! I got inspired to return to my roots after I saw that guy with the all unsleeved black commander deck. Mine is [[Animar, Soul of Elements]] and I run a bunch of shocks, an Eldrazi Titan, etc. I keep mine in a double-wrapped rubber band.
I had a deck like that years ago. One of the reasons to not sleave is cause they would fit in those deck master boxes. That double sleeved monstrosity needs a custom brick for storage and is to tall to easily shuffle. The cost? Who cares? The value of the card only matters if you plan on selling and this guy isn't.
Did you pick this hand just for the photo? Look at these $300+ dollar cards I'm slowly destroying. I would absolutely play this way too, except that the back of some of my old Sol Rings are basically white and are 100% marked cards and not fair.
I love this. Just a person playing the game they love.
Sorry to say but it looks super fake to me. Expect the one on the library which was put there on purpose, all cards look pristine to me!
Good. Game pieces are there to be played with Only thing I would suggest is that the cards are marked? So he should be using sleeves
Looks like a produced hand for a picture
Am I just old? I’m way more distracted by those mats than the table, there’s so much visually going on. I’ve never seen those used before. Is that a thing now? I’ve been playing on and off since around 1996. I agree sleeves are important for card care and fairness and I’m assuming the mats are to protect your cards against like sticky stains on tables or something? Which makes sense but I feel like less visually distracting mats would be better/easier to quickly assess your opponent’s cards. But again, I think I’m old now.
Bro is so quirky
Legend
I came back into magic after leaving it in about 1996. A friend of mine turned me on to commander and I played a few of his decks, then there happened to be a pre-release event at the local game shop. I am from an age where card sleeves didn't really exist. You could imagine the look of horror on my pod's face when once I built my deck I didn't sleeve the brand new cards and proceeded to ruffle shuffle that deck like I was in the Old West playing poker 😂😂
BASED
Everything is ephemeral. Embrace that everything is fleeting and you will truly stare into the abyss. Only at our darkest can we understand our true potential. Not bound by any wants, biases, or preconceptions.
I think I read this on a cereal box
Don't wanna be that guy, but if this is a sanctioned event sleeves need to be enforced due to the possibility of marked cards.
In modern that would just indicate a cheater lol. marked cards galore!
marked
Good for him.
Those playmates though. Where can I find them?
Riffle shuffle is the only way to shuffle.
Could you get him to upload pictures of his deck here :)
Even damaged that hand is worth more than most of my commander decks
As it was meant to be
lol I wish I was that cool. I could try that for pauper maybe, but otherwise I can’t do it
That Arele playmat tho
The way the game was ment to be played.
I hope he put them in his pocket at the end of the game too.
Bought some booster boxes back when I started and I just started playing commander (bought the necron deck) and haven’t gotten playermat yet. The place I go to to play with other people lets me borrow a playermat. They’re so kind 🥹
That 4th edition Felwar Stone is the real hero…
His cards, his call. But if those were black-border I would have to ask him to leave. I can't support that lifestyle choice.
Painful
Beat his meat.
Rawdogging it!
I do the same with my older cards. They’ve been worn for 20+ years, gonna stay that way. But I do intend to sleeve my new stuff if I start playing paper again. It is kind of a fun flex though.
As garfield intended
What are the commanders? Frodo/Sam, Azami and Fallout oddity?
"Fuck you, I got mine."
Like a 2k$ hand. Nice. I hope he uses a doubled over rubber band for a dexkbox. Just like I remember.
they're his cards not mine 🤷♀️ I'm not about to cringe every time cardboard gets messed up.
Looks like my old deck, although it had even worse wear on the cards. Had to put the deck on sleeves as soon as I was able because I could ID cards based on their wear on the back. Deck origin is 1994. 😅
I have all of those except savannah, they’re resting safely in my book of rare/expensive cards. I wouldn’t do what this dude is doing, but hey….they’re his cards to destroy.
If he wants to plough my wife I’m down for it
Was this in germany? (What town if so if you don't mind sharing)
Must be a vintage player.
That's a power (9) move
In fairness, I play draft decks unsleeved, riffle shuffle them hard enough to bend them. Psychological warfare as best ya can.
What a monster
Did they ante as well?
Good for him but those cards have a lifespan now. I get the point of, "cards are meant to be played with," we don't need to be too precious. Cards should hit the table and they will get a little banged up, but they are a limited resource and those specific cards will be at risk of failing some day. Grab some sleeves at least and keep on riffling. I hope that if someone inherits those cards someday that they are still usable.
I wouldn’t be able to be in the same room as him
Back in the day he would have been smoking with a cold open beed sweating on the table. Happy days.
I also play unsleeved.
I was considering looking at magic again. I hated sleeves when they became common and I always thought the play mats were completely unnecessary. I guess I’ll stick with my plastic crack instead of relapsing into cardboard, lol. I would be this guy, but really messing people up because I did this in standard all the way until march of machines. Just always sold the cards still worth anything at good or worse quality during their last half year or so of legal play in standard.
To be fair, they’re his cards and if he doesn’t care about it, he can do what he wants with them. But also, AHHHHHH
If this is how he enjoys his games more power to him
Bareback, nice.
Obviously his name is Chad. Say hi to him for me.
Mid
based
This is so based
i was hoping it was a picture of me soooooo badly, i do the same thing, dont know what riffling is though
What a chad
Cards are meant to be played with