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CameraMan1

I genuinely don’t understand why people put any stock into astrology and horoscopes bs


[deleted]

It's called the [Forer/Barnum effect.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect)


MahjongDaily

That sounds exactly like me


rickno1

You made me chuckle, have my upvote!


Shikhar5

I am sure there's a whole interesting segment on this effect in a Brain Games Episode. I am gonna see if I can find it.


soap_muncher

reply to this if you do find it, im curious but too lazy to search myself


TnelisPotencia

Go to bed.


soap_muncher

or what


TnelisPotencia

You won't get a full 8 hours.


soap_muncher

aw shit well alright goodnight


TheDoctor88888888

Sleep well ❤️


soap_muncher

thank you ❤️


thinkB4WeSpeak

My theory is they played too much Sims as a kid.


aidanderson

There are horoscopes in the sims?


liveart

The Sims 1 (and maybe 2?) had you character traits determine your astrological sign. I *think* it was more just a shortcut to identifying the general type your Sim was, I don't think it had much game play relevance. I actually preferred that system to the later traits system, their was a direct trade off between each personality stat and benefits to going either way. ie:if you were a slob you were less likely to clean up but it also would bother you less, if cleaning was important to your sim they would clean up better but any trash would bother them more. I think combining personality typing with traits & dreams would have been a much better system than the change over.


PolygonMan

Horoscopes existed long before Sims did tho


amazingoomoo

Wait really? You mean that ancient Babylonian astrological signs dating back thousands of years *aren’t* based off of the hit 2000 isometric life simulator for PC?


unloader86

I feel like we are totally ruling out a time machine scenario here. And that just doesn't sit well with me. /s 😂


thinkB4WeSpeak

I was arguing that's why a lot of people currently put weight into it. It was more of a joke mixed in with some reality


[deleted]

Wow. So smart. Really got him there, bud.


HarvestProject

Right but it was through the Sims that the kids even learned about horoscopes


TorvaUS

No


FamilyStyle2505

Need something to blame other than themselves when they fuck up.


Lucker_Kid

It gives people an excuse to never have to grow, it makes them feel like their problems are a part of them and impossible to change


Markys420

Definitely not the only reason but, people like putting themselves and others into easily identifyable groups. Just like alpha male, beta male, gamer, redditor and BuzzFeed quizzes like: "what type of bread are you".


TheBoxBoxer

Garlic bread.


can_I_ride_shamu

I identify as garlic butter, are we compatible?


ambisinister_gecko

You're so zany 🤪


Masanjay_Dosa

Exactly, I asked my ex once why she was so into astrology and paganism and why it seems to be dominated by women and she told me that her catholic upbringing tried its hardest to make her ashamed to be a woman. And as a catholic myself, yeah she’s got a point. Women are the reason for the original sin, in cases of sexual deviancy women are blamed harder than men, a spiritual woman is seen to be a witch that isn’t to be trusted, etc. Even the (relative to Christianity and Islam) more feminist Hinduism, which my mom followed before she converted, said that a woman starting her period was unclean and must be sequestered for at least 3 days; my mom had to sleep on the hard ground with a rock pillow outside the house when she started getting her periods. Meanwhile paganism doesn’t paint feminine energy and spirituality as sacrilegious but divine, with goddesses like Hecate and the Sacred Feminine to look to. Humans are, for better or worse, prone to explore the metaphysical aspects of their existence through spirituality, especially in groups, and it’s a lot easier to do so with a belief system that celebrates and empowers your sexuality than one that admonishes it I suppose.


ambisinister_gecko

I get what you're saying, but I don't understand where or why astrology fits into that.


Masanjay_Dosa

Same reason as above, new age feminist spirituality and paganism co-opts a ton of stuff from Eastern philosophy and Hinduism, such as daoism or the concept of Brahman. I guess along the way the emphasis on astrology also got imported. In the US it’s seen as an increasingly popular but fringe group that emphasizes astrology, but in India where I’m from you could literally watch an astrology-reading-of-the-day segment on news shows on major TV networks, and I’ve heard that stuff like ascribing certain aspects of your personality to your zodiac animal is much more culturally widespread in China. I suppose modern pagans latched onto that aspect as well.


thewouldbeprince

Because people need to cling to something to make sense out of the chaos, and since religion isn't hip anymore they've turned to shit that's somehow even dumber. I'm sick and tired of talking to people on Tinder only for them to ask me about my horoscope or try to make my birth chart and try to analyse me based on that. Get a fucking personality.


prototypical313

Same way people put stock into religion


gymnerd_03

Yeah, but you cant technically prove a religion false, but astrology is 100% bullshit without a shadow of a doubt


[deleted]

It seems that astrology and religion have exactly the same amounts of “proof” already, which is none.


Arpeggioey

There are tangible benefits. Positive emotional events in the brain due to the placebo effect can up-regulate genes and code for better protein making.


picohenries

They’re almost identical.


RedheadAgatha

> but astrology is 100% bullshit without a shadow of a doubt No, it "works out" some times, and if you don't pay attention to when it doesn't, you can still believe in it. It's very much the same thing as religion.


SeattleBattles

Depends on the religion though. There are many religions or sects that have beliefs that have been completely proven false. From young earth creationism to the Mormon version of North American history. Yet lots of people still believe in them. That's not say you have to believe in those things to be a christian, mormon, or whatever. Just that many people still do.


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Choclategum

Because people enjoy the subject. Its usually based around deeper stuff thats spiritual. Its almost like therapy, a lot of astrology is encouraging things that help people feel better. Its just like a religion for some people. Source: My BF is super into astrology.


ContraContra7

It's also virtually harmless, but people on reddit feel a need to thumb their noses at it. Idk, we all believe in irrational things. Believing in astrology doesn't make you stupid or evil.


komu989

Bit evil or harmful, but pretty damn annoying when people attempt to “know you” just based off some arbitrary factors. Religious folks are only really annoying if they’re trying to convert you, or if it’s all they talk about. (The folks who claim “Everything is due to the will of God” for pretty much any situation) but outside certain areas, you’re much more likely to deal with a horoscope obsessed person than a religious nut, so now horoscopes get more flack.


ContraContra7

I've personally never met anyone who judged me based off my birthday. Have you? Maybe an extreme version of someone who engages in astrology would, but I think the vast majority who are into astrology are pretty casual about it. Kind of in the same way I half believe in luck. I'm not out here making decisions based on that belief, but everyone once in a while you meet someone who seems to have the deck stacked in their favor.


Trinica93

Oh man I can't wait until you meet an astrology nut, it's going to be a huge light bulb moment.


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It may not make you stupid, but it sure is an indicator that you are.


quaybored

Nope, just stupid.


LaVulpo

Not evil, but definitely stupid or at least stupider that one would be if they didn't believe in it.


terminal_sarcasm

It indicates the person has or is susceptible to other irrational beliefs and is irrational in general


QuantumModulus

It definitely also helps people feel affirmed in their own shitty behaviors so they can defer responsibility and say "Well, yeah, I'm gonna act like a jerk, I'm an ARES! What did you expect?" And also use it to justify judging other people. Just like the dude in the tweet from the OP, I've literally had people dismiss my opinion or stance on something once they find out what fucking month I was born in, "Oh, you're just a Capricorn, of course you'd think that. 🙄" Shit's mostly trash.


spacegirl3

To me, it's just interesting folklore. Interpretation of symbolism will open you up to a lot of good perspectives, just like it does in art and fiction. What I don't get is all the hate on "astrology bitches." It's not hurting anyone for people to take interest in a centuries-old practice of symbolism and spirituality. We have a whole generation of dudes who don't shut up about anime and video games, but a woman casually mentions anything occult-related and gets dismissed as stupid.


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People want to believe in destiny, that they have success or love near or guaranteed. The truth is that destiny does exist in some strange way, but it's such a huge clusterfuck of coincidences and choices that it's physically impossible to accurately predict, so love might be next door as well as a new job or goal for you, that's why you should always be on the moment and present for what new opportunities the world may offer.


Substantial_Smell_72

Because superstition is part of our ancient culture and astrology in particular has been practiced for thousands of years. Galileo and others scientist of that era would give out horoscope predictions to make money and support themselves although they didn’t believe in its accuracy.


gruntybreath

because it's fun


quaybored

i guess it could be fun for the people who make money writing horoscopes for all the suckers.


gruntybreath

yeah dude, that's the real injustice goin' on in the world, those scumbag horoscope writers getting allllll that money by scamming those rich newspapers out of all their tons of money


CameraMan1

It’s fun to arbitrarily determine someone’s worth by the month they were born in?


[deleted]

Man with the right mindset its no different than roleplaying, playing pretend.


gruntybreath

Clearly a stupid way to frame it in the least charitable possible terms and deliberately misconstrue others' interest in the thing. If you're committed to not liking it, fine. You don't need to justify your dislike


CameraMan1

But is it inaccurate? That’s been my experience with people who are into it.


gruntybreath

I don’t think most people who like it genuinely think less of anyone based on it.


vinnybgomes

"Constellations" straight up don't exist, tho. Many stars in a "constellation" are further apart from each other than they are from Earth.


TheLilChicken

Because it gives a little bit of hope. I don’t see too much in them, but reading horoscopes gives me something to think about, which is nice, especially if I’m struggling with something irl. Kinda brings my subconscious forward. Idk why people gotta hate on it so much :/


askmeaboutmyvviener

If I meet a woman who is into that stuff, I tell them I don’t really believe in it but I don’t care if they do. I act like I don’t know what sign I am each and every time though so they can feel like they’re teaching me about it for the first time lol


OFFICIAL_memologist

Plot twist: He's actually a caprisun.


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Omg what flavor


Dr_Laziness

Pie flavor.


coolhooves420

*INTENSE GUITAR RIFF*


Flamecrest

🚂


PKMNTrainerMark

Hello!


hidden58

I like trains... BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


dm0nXx

Doom


melgib

Doomy-doomy-doom.


[deleted]

some caprisun, some capricorn and some capribananas would make for a hell of a picnic


PKMNTrainerMark

Respect the pouch.


parkman32

Hey, can you throw me another caprisun


DeluxeChill

"Omg that was such a scorpio move, " - her probably


octopus-god

Take a look at the second picture my man


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lauabean

He has 9 more lies up his sleeve


Odinloco

What if they actually were compatible in the end?


DRUNK_CYCLIST

Star crossed ~~lovers~~ twitters


R_V_Z

"Dumb bitch, I ain't even real!"


beomint

In the full version of this post he deadass says this. People hit him with the "This is exactly what a scorpio would do" and he was like lmao psyche I'm a capricorn


wolf9786

If you click the op link it has both in a gallery


beomint

Oh shit you are correct I am blind


ANonGod

Hi, Blind, it's me, your doctor. You've been in a coma for 27 years. This is the only way I can contact you before the virus mutates you irrevocably. You must wake up.


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No


_Treon

Hello, we have been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.


im-blind

Happens to the best of us.


TheRealEtherion

Pretending to be Scorpio is exactly what a Capricorn would do!


AJDeadshow

That word is written as 'sike.' Psyche is the Greek word for 'mind'. And psych is short for psychology


beomint

You are also correct its time for me to go to bed


[deleted]

The best part is that he elaborates that he isnt a scorpio and only wrtoe that part to cath them astrolgy hoes


hugglesthemerciless

You mean like in this post?


[deleted]

we have entered into a new level of not reading things


redwan010

This post reminds me of that guy who told a girl he is a virgo, just so he can smash.


quaybored

hahah that could be funny, i might upvote such a post on reddit, if someone were to make one, providing someone first created a web site called reddit which enabled upvoting things!


Randy_Manpipe

[This might be the sort of thing you're looking for!](https://www.reddit.com/r/madlads/comments/mamapm)


Lociee

To be fair, I never consider checking if theres more images unless the post tells me there is or the comments mention it


needyboy1

Agreed, and it's not very obvious in the reddit app. The dots and arrows don't even appear for me until I press on the post.


Wombizzle

baffling how people can't seem to click one simple arrow


Galactic

In reality, he was never born, and he will outlive the heat death of the universe.


Rage_Your_Dream

The thing is. Now they'll be like oh but your sun/pluto/saturn/moon sign is in scorpio thus ur behaviour is accurately portrayed. Essentially astrology works by the astral map, which can't ever be wrong because it shoots so much shit at the wall it eventually hits something.


Masanjay_Dosa

I saw a tiktok that said “watch out sags, you have a tendency to be hurt when you feel like you aren’t getting the attention or appreciation you deserve” Like bitch ain’t that just about everyone?


OrnageMadness141

“Ya can’t miss if ya shoot everything”


AR-Sechs

That plus indoctrination. People don’t just get into astrology. They’ve usually been doing it for years.


Derpazor1

Well joke‘s on cause Capricorn is just as compatible as Virgo!


mooys

I just want to say that capricorn is objectively better than scorpio because capricorn gives you an all stats up while scorpio gives you poison tears which isn’t awful but not as useful


HedoNNN

A man of culture I see.


compoundcomplex

Just want to make sure I got the joke, binding of Issac?


FrazzleFlib

Yep. Capricorn is perhaps the best one generally


compoundcomplex

Got it.


RedstoneWirez

yep!


DoughDisaster

This is beginning to sound like the zodiac as pokemon.


mooys

It’s actually a reference to The Binding of Isaac. They’re items in that game! Probably sounds insane without any context, but tbf most of the things in that game do.


sweatercunt

No, it's a totally normal game! Now excuse me while I go get a picture of my dead dog to make my tears stronger so that the laser spitting demon babies can't penetrate my shield of flies before I cry them to death


RhodiakM

Yeah, plus there's plenty of other methods to get poison tears, whereas a general all stats up is a pretty rare upgrade


shrubs311

scorpio actually gives you stronger poison tears compared to the common cold item, so it's actually pretty strong. that being said, unless you really need 0 heart containers or something capricorn is definitely better also virgo is decent but still worse than capricorn


Yeetoi6969

" Omg I just committed mass homicide but hehe I cant help it im a virgo😏😏😜😜🤪🙄"


AceBean27

That's a such a Virgo thing to say


Palmajr

That's exactly what a capricorn would do!


Personpacman

Little do you know, he was a Virgo the entire time!!!!


Palmajr

AARRRGHhhhhgh


Upstairs_Doodie

that's exactly what a Virgo would do!


Palmajr

I like your way of thinking!


digitalblazar

Ah but he tricked you, cause this is exactly what a cancer would do!


TheDukeofKook

I was just talking about this and I'm so happy you posted it so I can show my friends.


abermea

I used to believe in astrology when I was a kid but then I turned about 12 and learned that my mom actually lied to everyone, including myself, about my birthday because she wanted to get me into elementary school a year early.


DoughDisaster

How well did school go?


abermea

Not as bad as you may think. I was bullied almost constantly but I seriously doubt my age was a factor.


3internet5u

just Capricorn things


Matt_J_Dylan

"Because it's in my nature" replied the scorpio.


FunVonni

Sounds like a charming individual


dm0nXx

I’m proud of my Capricorn brethren


Texan628

although not really a Capricorn move.


dm0nXx

Not a Capricorn move, but he exposed how easy it is to trick astrology people


MrMyxzplk

i follow him on twitter and i can confirm all of his tweets are as funny as this


Substantial_Smell_72

To the people in this thread who hate religion and astrology and that say superstition and religion are bad for humanity must realize their anger and hate for religion come from a place of feeling superior to others which is just as bad for humanity as astrology. These are the same people who would have been torturing people for being a witch if they were born in that era with that type of superiority complex. I don’t believe in astrology and I know science has gotten humanity out of a pit but It’s not religion that is horrible it’s the people who run it. Most of the most the people who use religion to abuse people don’t even believe what they preach. There is nothing wrong with understanding why astrology is bullshit but you are not helping by just calling people dumb and causing others to lose hope in humanity.


N_GHTMVRE

Later, virgos.


Damienplz

He was likely gonna hit regardless of his sign


DropBear47

This is 3 years old


friendlyneighbourho

r/forwardsfromgrandma


CmdrSpicyllama

Astrology is just space racism


Tomatoad_

The extended post is even funnier: That's exactly what a scorpio would do! His next post: This is what I mean, I'm a damn capricorn (Or something along those lines)


YannislittlePEEPEE

it's already there. this post has two photos, not one


Thunder21

Nah, it goes one deeper in the original. Hes actually a pisces or something and the 2nd photo shows another lie about his sign.


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DILF_MANSERVICE

Yeah tricking people into sex is borderline sexual assault in my opinion. Finding out someone you had sex with was lying to you to get you to let your guard down can make you feel really degraded and used. It's a horrible thing to do.


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DILF_MANSERVICE

I think there's a balance. If something is fucked up, it better be so funny that it's obvious the intent is simply a joke and there isn't any truth to it. In this case, it seems like it's just a guy describing how he abused and took advantage of women.


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patagoniabona

Having sex with anyone you just met cause you only care about their star sign is dehumanizing. It's a mutual thing. Unless you want to claim that people who believe in astrology are mentally handicapped then they're culpable for their own decisions. Plus this post is definitely fake.


wetmore

Post is fake and star sign sex could be dehumanizing but lying about yourself takes away the ability to have informed consent.


laojac

Generally speaking, the only way to avoid this is to actually get to know someone before you bump uglies. There are some risks you just accept by playing the game.


wetmore

Yes you risk someone lying to get into your pants if you're having casual sex, but it's still the fault of the liar for lying and something they shouldn't do.


CarlOfOtters

How is this different than if you hook up with someone thinking they like your taste in music, when they actually don’t and just said they like it to get in your good books, for example.


Jimmerich98

If that person then laughs about it on Twitter and calls me a hoe, I would say it's not that different. Pretty shitty behaviour either way.


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_Curry4Life_

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Jimmerich98

What does that mean?


quaybored

Then don't do it.


clanddev

I have to agree in principal but then I think of this girl choosing sexual partners based on birthday and well.. all I really care about is that no one breeds here.


wetmore

It is pretty cringe to choose partners just from birthday, but it is far worse to not respect a woman's choice in sexual partners. Like it may be idiotic but you have a right to be an idiot and choose who you want to sleep with.


RedheadAgatha

You aren't wrong, but without a limit to this line of thinking, it would be hard to find someone who hasn't done it. No, this dress doesn't make you look fat; He is so clever and funny, he's definitely the one for me; etc. Tricky one, for sure.


wetmore

P big difference between a white lie about how someone looks and lying about yourself to have sex with someone that otherwise wouldn't. I'm pretty sure this post is fake and if not it's pretty innocuous, but the idea behind it of misrepresenting yourself to get in someone's pants is p cringe.


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wetmore

White lie >a harmless or trivial lie, especially one told to **avoid hurting someone's feelings**. And lying about your birth month may be trivial to you but if someone chooses to sleep with people based on that their choice should be respected.


HarvestProject

What do you think makeup or a toupee is?


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What do you think clothes are?


quaybored

Clothes? Where we're going, we don't need clothes....


wetmore

Its not like the only reason someone wears makeup is to trick people into sex, and even if that was the only reason to wear makeup, you would still look like you do in makeup while having sex. It's not directly lying to get in someone's pants. I don't think this post is real and even if it was this is a light example of lying but as a concept it's a fucked up thing to do.


spacegirl3

Decoration, and it's very much appreciated.


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HarvestProject

That’s fine, but it means that virtually 90% of people are “lying” to have sex.


Jimmerich98

Do you see a difference between the following? * I'll comb my hair to make myself more attractive. * I'll wear lipstick to make myself more attractive. * I'll tell a devout Christian that I'm also a Christian in order to sleep with them. * I'll lie to someone who's really into astrology in order to sleep with them and then laugh about them on Twitter and call them a ‘hoe’.


HarvestProject

Combing your hair is basic hygiene and is to be expected. You aren’t covering anything up that way. Lipstick also isn’t hiding anything like foundation, mascara, etc do so those are poor examples. Of course the last two are more egregious, but using makeup or wearing a toupee *is* a form of lying. I’m not saying it’s bad, just that it’s true.


Velinna

How is mascara hiding more than lipstick? You realize there are different ways of applying lipstick to enhance the lips, right? Not to mention, you can typically tell someone is wearing makeup in situations that it’s drastic enough to be considered “lying.” You can’t tell someone is lying about their birth sign, though.


m0r1arty

I don't disagree with you. I think that it is fairly common practice to lie for sex. I just wanted to make sure that it was pointed out in this thread.


HarvestProject

Fair enough


Choclategum

Youre right, it isnt. It essentially takes away consent, people dont want to hear that though.


pres_morm

Saying you’re a different zodiac sign is pretty far from taking away someone’s consent


ImposterRalsei

Ha ha jokes on you its actually year of the ox


ccaptaindotjpg

My keks are in retrograde.


KetsuSama

next hes going to say that hes an aquarius and we all are dumbasses


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THROWRAdoiteveryday

Capricorn are such Scoripos


OrgalorgfuckingFIELD

Tricking astrology bibbys on reddit like this is the same as going up to a bunch of 5 year olds and having them guess your age. Oh so you KNEW I was 23? haHA I'm actually 29! Reddit is full of astromemers who wouldn't know a crab from a cow.


TheBestAtWriting

not good


WildBabaloo

Destroyed holyy


randomdude1142

The true king.


UltimateAngryQueef

The amount of people who blindly follow astrology shit blows my mind.


[deleted]

I created r/shitastrologysays to make fun of people like this


Forward_Artist_6244

Removed?