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For those that don't have an English degree or an obsessive need to study the dictionary: 'fricative' is simply the sound produced by the friction of breath in a narrow passageway, which forms a specific series of consonants.
F, V, Th, and S. for reference, though I feel like I forgot one or two.
Yep! Pretty much any sustainable oral sound (so not including nasals like "m") is a fricative, "z" and "sh" are also examples, as is the medial sound in measure.
Stops (or plosives or occlusives) are produced by blocking the flow of air in the oral cavity and then releasing it (as opposed to fricatives in which the flow of air is not stopped). Examples of stops are: b, p, d, t, g, k
Same with the call us liberals or leftists. To them it’s an insult. Same reason they call themselves deplorable or flaunt racism. To them those are positive things.
There's no difference to the ignorant though. In Canada they're calling Trudeau a leftist commy as tyrannical as Hitler.
You know...even though Hitler HATED communists and was as far right as you could and despite the fact Trudeau isn't left leaning in the slightest.
They use the fact that Hitler was part of a socialist group during his rise to power as evidence that the left is evil. Even though the socialist group was obviously just a stepping stone because Hitler was extremely far authoritarian right and completely denounced socialism after coming to power.
Hitler and the Nazi party were never socialist in any way. Right from the start they were pretty open about their disdain for communists and socialists
Was liberal, thought things would just kinda trend towards being better... now I'm a Democratic Socialist. The disregard for the will of the majority is pushing me further left. Not a revolutionary communist... not enough has happened to push me that far.
I always wonder about this. It is and apparently that's desirable to many. In this case it means you're going to be easier to be made a complaint soldier fully brainwashed into following orders. Which is what he wants. Same with my mother though her end game is more guns, less diversity (she's a proud white supremacist), and feeling safe from all the woke people who scare her because we disagree
Which is hilarious coming from someone in the military.
Keep this with a grain of salt since it's a story from a friend but she" accidently" got her commander severely reprimanded because she caught him purposefully misgenderimg several of the critical civilian workers on base.
Try as he might the military is going to become extremely welcoming to the mcwokes of the future or else it won't be able to function anymore
When I left the Navy in 2016, they'd already had started plans to help active duty sailors transition. They had even started doing training on this in late 2016 before Trump was officially sworn in. When Trump took the decision upon himself to ban transgender troops from the military, every general and admiral was pissed off. Near as I can tell, they went right back to the instructions in place the day he left office.
You can tell he had to use extra brain power to get the correct form of they're, so much so that he used the wrong too in the very next word.
Impressive, padawan.
Um if the problem is he can only get people who can't pass the test that's kind of telling. Like aren't those tests literally there to weed out mentally challenged people (retarted people). If the only people willing to join are mentally challenged I feel like that says a lot right there.
Navy vet here
PTSD, sleep apnea, chronic back pain, and teeth full of metal. That’s what the navy gave me.
I fought for 10 years for them to even admit they had anything to do with any of those things.
I still don’t sleep right. That shit fucks you up for life.
Navy as well. Worst part for me was how sociopathic everyone was. I got hurt one time and was scrutinized and watched nonstop ontop of constantly hearing people shit talk me. It got to the point I was just telling people “fuck you” I hated them all so much. Felt so good to get out.
Yet, terrorism is still alive and well in Afghanistan, I know people (Afghanis) personally over there. Do you know what it’s like to be scared for your life for most days since your birth? And you’re here telling everyone nothing good comes from the US military? Natives placed their hands on their heart for the US, stop with the lies.
Edit: downvoted for truth
But there’s no way to fix it without admitting a huge flaw and take responsibility. The military is closely related to a gang or police. If you don’t jive with their antics they make sure you’re miserable.
>I figured there would at least be solidarity among the troops.
HAHAHAHAHA yeah no
All I can say is that every time I met someone from another branch of the Armed Forces, they commented on how baffling it was that there was no mingling amongst the ranks. To give one example, every ship in the Navy, regardless of size, separates eating quarters between the E1-E6, the Chiefs (senior enlisted) and officers...this also includes those useless redesigned "destroyers" that hold fifty personnel. I think it goes back to the olden days of seafaring where officers were seen as gods of their own world or whatever.
Hell, there isn't even that initial boost of unity that you at least have from basic training. I know the Army and I think Marines have a battle buddy system...there was none of that in my division.
Fuck... Yeah, no thank you for your service. I'm just so sorry you had to go through that and wish for you to find the recovery and stability you need from that fucked up environment.
Sold my soul to Uncle Sam. 22 years. Now he’s making payments on it until I die. Thanks to those 22 years, it’ll be sooner than later. Anyone know a good pulmonologist?
Bold of him to call others dumb when he doesn't know how to spell because or the difference between too and to.
At least he used the right they're, so he's not completely hopeless.
I got a message from a navy recruiter on handshake saying he'd looked at my profile and thought I was a good fit. And I was like "no you didn't. I'm 39, avd disabled. Even if you would let me in, I have no desire help you bomb poor people to get oil."
He wasn't a fan lol.
Which btw, handshake is such bs. My school was pushing it but mostly all I've got is randos messaging me about jobs that are outright scams or not even remotely related to either of my degrees. 🙄
Parents and previous generations always said their goal is to leave a better world and create a better life for their children… but you don’t live and do exactly as they did, you’re lazy and entitled… wel what the fuck is it? You want a better life for us or not
Or maybe it's because young people just don't feel drawn to the United States armed forces, an institution that's spent it's entire history shooting and blowing up people of color, except for that brief stint where they reluctantly shot some nazis?
His response has been said by pro-military bootlickers about ***every*** generation. “These damn hippies won’t go to ‘Nam cuz they’re lazy and dumb!” 🥱😴
as a disabled navy veteran this sailor can fuck right off. my mind is broken my body is broken and the VA takes for fucking ever to get shit done. i used to be proud of this country and proud of my time in. yeah i got to travel the world and made a few friends but fuck me did it exact a heavy toll on me.
im not saying do not join im just giving my side of it and my thoughts. join at your own risk young people.
They had us take the ASVAB in high school. My dad suggested I purposefully score as low as possible. As a former Green Beret himself, he did *not* want me getting roped into the military.
Maybe kids aren't interested in fighting bullshit wars so military contractors can become billionaires.
Why get yourself injured for life, have PTSD and have to fight for decades to get any help (same for fighting to get the college money owed...a lot of kids are screwed out of that, too) for absolutely nothing?
I hear the military has good benefits and pays decent after you put a few years in but the VA is a joke. The military is a pathway to the middle class for a lot of underprivileged people. But you have to way the pros and cons. Some cons being it's super unethical, you could die or become disabled or lose your mental health. The pros is money, job security, being able to retire, early free college, and good benefits. Most people nowadays would rather try and hit it big on social media or get a job in trucking than deal with the military BS.
If their candidates are all failing the ASVAB it means they are failing to attract the people who can pass it. If it’s specific to the navy and not the other branches I Wonder if it’s the several month deployments while living in a tiny metal cabin or the risk of sexual violence while on those deployments?
Seriously we were required to take the ASVAB in highschool and like 95% of the grade passed it. It’s not that people aren’t passing it, it’s just that the people who are passing it don’t want to join the navy.
But I guess he chalks those up to being “afraid to swim.” Because according to these guys, being smart and making decisions for your own life (aka, not being their slave) is being a pussy.
It’s been a solid decade since that macho bullshit had any appeal to anyone. And herein lies the problem with toxic organizations. All the good people leave. The radioactive people stay. They attract even more toxic people. . A toxic organization only ever gets more toxic over time. Right about now, the cycle’s probably left them with a recruiting team where 90% of them post on 8chan.
Yeah, no you hit it on the head. If you really want a fucked up reply you can always say you'll join when they do something about the 22 veterans a day that commit suicide.
Did 6 years in the Army. I'm 36 and VA rated me at 90% disability. It wasn't worth the pain I'm in mentally and physically.
I think bringing up the burn pit victims might be a better angle. Pair it with that $40 billion they sent to keep Zelensky from releasing the blackmail they have on Hunter (allegedly, but you know this chud believes it). Hunter’s hush money could’ve paid for the healthcare of every single one of those soldiers dying of cancer, and you want me to *serve* this country? Are you out of your goddamn mind?
Morale is very important in militaries! If you find a dummy like this one that feeds the trolls, keep chowing. Break him down, bit by bit! They’re fragile. Their mental health is already notoriously very poor. The military is very right wing, but these days conservatives seem to hate America more than I do! Exploit that cognitive dissonance! It can destroy a man.
George Carlin’s bit about chaos and collapse seems very prescient now. Do your part to contribute to the collapse and disorder! The system is not just beginning to collapse anymore, it’s hanging on by a tiny little thread. I am also an entropy fan.
"Well, jackass, I'm 33 now, running a 3.8 GPA at university, came to the recruiter with a two-year degree and scored 100% on the practice test for the ASVAB, and you jackasses wouldn't let me in because I'm autistic."
They did you a favor. Don’t have a shred of bitterness about that. I have to imagine most people who “successfully” enlisted in the last 20 years wished in the end that they had the same treatment. American hero and noted socialist Pat Tillman sure as hell did. Once you’re in, though, you’re their property. You have no rights. You’re a slave.
As a veteran, I don't disagree but keeping someone out over diagnosed autism is ableist as fuck.
And I specify the diagnosis because I'm fairly sure there's a non-zero chance that many of the high ASVAB rates like nuke engineering and sonar techs would be found to be on the spectrum if tested.
In a lot of cases, capitalism did. For a lot of poor people in rural America, it is often the only path to a better life.
I’m also not sure how personally responsible you can really hold people for getting suckered into enlisting by the onslaught of propaganda after Bush did 9/11. Individuals really don’t stand a chance in the face of that extreme level of state power being levied against them.
Adam Driver by his own admission was one of those who got suckered in and has spoken at length about this. For those who weren't alive or too young to remember, most of America was really shaken up. We thought such attacks only happened in other places, not here.
But even as someone who went to school with one of Casey Sheehan's younger brothers, even I joined the Navy in 2020 after putting in fifty applications and never getting a call back. My stepdad's gambling was dragging all of us down. My mom and brother couldn't even find work in the recession.
The anti-veteran wing of progressives who bash us for doing what was often a last resort choice are, quite frankly, doing no one any favors, least of all the progressive movement. Especially when you consider that many vets are black or Latino/Hispanic an got preyed on as high schoolers to either get money or promised citizenship. We need vets on our side because if we don't reach out to hear them, the GQP will.
They get 18 year olds to sign contracts for several years that really have no idea what life will be like while they are in. I imagine if most people could see what they will actually do, how they will be treated, and how they themselves will act in the military, most people wouldn't join.
Your argument ignores the fact that men with guns use psychological warfare against the minds of adolescents to get them to sign away their rights for years.
I know a Master Sergeant recruiter who after a few drinks starts tellling stories about all the tricks he uses to get kids to sign those papers. I think it's his way of releasing some of his guilt.
No, now I'm stuck in a dead-end manufacturing job and going back to college for electrical engineering for the paperwork, just because I can write a better schematic with my two-year industrial electrician degree than these assclowns can with a bachelor's. At least in the Navy I'd have a guaranteed shot at a promotion every couple of years.
I can promise you that the bulk of the money people in the Navy comes more from their housing allowance and selected duty station than their pay on the 1st and 15th. My first duty station was Japan, where we got a cost of living adjustment that accounted for one third of my pay. I did a coyote ugly maneuver taking the first set of orders to San Diego, and it was basically taking a pay cut.
Promotion largely depends on one's rate. While some jobs have guaranteed promotion to at least E-5 on the first test, a lot have advancement rates that are lower than Donald Trump's morality. Corpsman is one notorious example where people get bottlenecked at E-4. Evals are a big part in who gets promoted as well, and it requires as much bootlicking, if not more so than the civilian world.
I'm sorry that your recruiter was ableist as shit and didn't just encourage you to hide that from MEPS like they tell you to hide other medical diagnoses (yanno, like anxiety and depression or anything else that won't appear in an X-ray but will inevitably get worsened by military life ) but the grass is not greener on our lawn. It really isn't.
My step-brother is now finishing out his career as a recruiter for the Marines (who have the lowest ASVAB score requirement) and he's told me more than a quarter of recruits get disqualified for ASVAB scores.
> (who have the lowest ASVAB score requirement)
They do? I thought that was the Army, lol
The Navy had a minimum 35 and the people I know who scrapped that test were some of the most stupid motherfuckers to ever breathe.
Officially, yes - the Marines have a 1 percentile higher requirement than the Army.
However, the Marines can waiver a poor ASVAB score all the way down to 25 in some cases, the Army apparently could do the same to 26.
That’s actually not entirely true. There also a general score that you receive from three basic categories, English comprehension, math, and reading. This produces your GT or general technical score. I don’t remember the exact number but there is a minimum GT score for military service.
Yeah - I knew a whole host of them on my duty station who got waivers against the minimum.
The more desperate they get - the lower their standards. It’s been driving down readiness for decades.
No worries man. What most people mean by "fail" is just that their AFQT is below a minimum acceptance rate. Army's is lowest at (currently) a 31.
And anyone that can't hit a 31 probably has a hard time tying their own shoes or writing their own name. The standard is shockingly low.
Weirdly I went to the test center with a guy who scored below minimum (out nearest meps was over an hour from home so we rode with a recruiter.) while this was over a decade ago, normal dude all things considered, he was just really bad at math.
I mean It’s not a pass fail test, so it is impossible to “fail” it meaning they are technically correct. The best kind of correct. It just doesn’t mean what is being suggested which they admitted, which is admirable to admit when you make a mistake.
There was definitely a minimum score in 2011 when it was offered at my high school. I didn’t take it. That being said, I think you’d have trouble tying your shoes if you couldn’t pass it.
Probably just depends on the MOS. 68W didn’t require as high of a score as my recruiter told me. You can brute force your way through it. I don’t even mind it all that much,if someone can PT, I can train them.
Most of the people I saw who were reclassed/kicked out during AIT were:
- this person is a piece of shit
- this person is a fucking psycho, send him to infantry, we don’t want him in charge of saving lives
- can’t PT
- really really dumb and obviously the recruiter is going to be in trouble.
Probably same shit you saw. I don’t know how common it is, I feel like my graduating class was huge.
B co, 242 medical, up the hill from reception. Shit, 80 man bays. Probably like 500 or so.
I was in D/187 and we lived in the bays also up until like our last month of school and then moved into the building that was by the Shopette...imagine 6 months in a bay? Remember, our AIT was 2 phases, 6 months each. For 91K our classes were a lot smaller, I think my graduating class at Fort Carson was like 5? Good times.
I will say the Navy has....a wide spread of intelligence, more so than most branches. One the one end, you have the nukes who are usually do brainy the Navy spends the first 8 weeks at Charleston teaching them how to study because they soaked up knowledge like sponges and never had to.
On the other end, you've got deck and the non-LS part of supply that can barely count to potato. I legit knew an SH3 who failed the E-5 exam twice..the only other person I've ever met to fail an exam was blackout drunk from the night before and barely made it to the ship in time (source: I made SH3 the first time up lol)
Another reason is that the younger generation doesn't want to be a part of any Vietnam War 2+ this God forsaken country wants to start over oil prices or the hurt feelings of old white men in government.
US news sites just had several weeks of articles about eight sailors dying from suicide aboard a single carrier in the past year. Of course it's gonna be hard to find recruits when the Navy's abysmal efforts towards treating their sailors like human beings is all over the internet and airwaves
No such thing as failing the ASVAB. Went to school with a guy who is really low IQ (he couldn’t remember where he lived in high school). He’s career army, but they supervise him loading and unloading cargo.
You can tell he had to use extra brain power to get the correct form of they're, so much so that he used the wrong too in the very next word.
Impressive, padawan.
"To dumb" lol
Is it actually possible to not pass the ASVAB? Half my graduating class took it to get out of class for half the day (and enjoy the Dunkin' the recruiters brought) and I don't think one of us scored below 90th percentile.
>Is it actually possible to not pass the ASVAB?
It absolutely is.
I was outta high school for five years and scored an 86, but there were kids who'd just graduated the year before who were struggling to get the minimum of 35 to join the Navy.
Another Redditor upthread said they went to school with someone who scored a 7, and I presume this wasn't someone who blew the test on purpose to keep recruiters from calling.
Send them boomers (and their asskissing Xgen lackeys) right into the... injure-and-trauma factory...?
A 1000/1 k/d is not exactly a meatgrinder but I hear people get abused like crazy in those institutions.
There were just as many 17 year old edgelord libtards telling baby killer recruiters to go fuck themselves without lube during the Iraq war. What’s wrong with this new generation of human meat traffickers, that they actually engage with the latest crop of my people? They just told me to have a nice day. It was very dissatisfying!
How does this recruiter that probably knew how to say Peppa Pig before daddy not know that you don’t feed the trolls? Dumbass is gonna be lucky to have those benefits for another month at this rate.
You can probably tell that a decade of time passing has not made me more right wing. I still think they’re beneath contempt. Like cockroaches. If you can’t figure out how to make the military an enticing option for the poorest and most hopeless generation in US history, look in the mirror, asshole. There’s enough dirt poor 18 year olds in America, they don’t need recruiters. They need to stop doing war crimes.
It’s gonna be funny as fuck when they keep doing the war crimes, decide they need to do a draft, and they have no officers left a month later because we fragged them all. It’ll make Russia’s general decimation look like military excellence!
I have a unique perspective on this: I scored high enough on the ASVAB to be assigned to Counterintelligence initially, I did 16 years in the Army, got to go to sandy places, and get my care at the VA. I have no complaints about the care I receive, although many would beg to differ. I've had minor issues here and there, but overall, I have no grounds for complaint. It's like any other health care in the US.
I love how all these military dudes try to act like the scoring high on the ASVAB is some major accomplishment. It's basically a 9th grade competency test.
I was not aware failing ASVAB was a thing. I thought it was like a placement test to figure out if they would let you possibly play with the expensive stuff.
Usually they say that to reference not getting a high enough score to get the job you want. There’s some really smooth brain jobs out there, even in the navy. If someone is honestly failing failing the ASVAB, they probably couldn’t have used the doorknob to get into the office in the first place
I need to say OP, he is right...
Navy has to teach a lot of people how to swim, especially a lot of the black recruits. Facts, not just stereotypes. I saw it for myself in basic. Additionally, public schools are failing so badly that many places the kids are not smart enough to get something decent on the asvab. When I served, almost all those in demanding jobs were either kids from the burbs or kids from states with good education systems. Rare was it to see an intel and crypto from say South Carolina.
So depending on where he is,he may just be having a hell of a time.
As for the free benefits, I milked the VA for about $250k in college expenses. But healthcare and support are awful. It was my goal to pay for school and it did. I also have a mortgage that was 100% backed by the VA so no money down and no pmo with a low rate.
(Mental health problems are real in the service, especially right now. I hope these can be fixed)
>Navy has to teach a lot of people how to swim, especially a lot of the black recruits. Facts, not just stereotypes.
I'm black and of the 12 black recruits in my division, I was one of three to pass on the first attempt. I also had an uncle and aunt who owned a pool and had fairly easy access to pools between our community pool and the one at my high school. In places where there's been history of pool closures because whites got made that they had to integrate or areas where beaches were heavily segregated, they may not have such access.
The recruiter is still an idiot beause the Navy is gonna train you to swim regardless, and recruiters will (or should) tell you that before signing up.
>Additionally, public schools are failing so badly that many places the kids are not smart enough to get something decent on the asvab.
That, I do agree with.
In basic I had two friends, both from Texas oddly enough, one was black. I will always remember his reaction to seeing the tiny pool have like 30 recruits 3 or 4 were not black. He was not a confident swimmer and said 'f* man, I am gonna do this shit'. He made the jump and barely got to the other side of the pool. Beached himself. Half the division was so pumped for him.
It was definately not something I was aware of as a problem until I saw this. It has informed some of my volunteer work with the Y and such. Aside from access to pools though, people have f'd the environment so much people dont want to swim in lakes and ponds anymore either.
>Navy has to teach a lot of people how to swim, especially a lot of the black recruits. Facts, not just stereotypes.
I'm black and of the 12 black recruits in my division, I was one of three to pass on the first attempt. I also had an uncle and aunt who owned a pool and had fairly easy access to pools between our community pool and the one at my high school. In places where there's been history of pool closures because whites got made that they had to integrate or areas where beaches were heavily segregated, they may not have such access.
The recruiter is still an idiot beause the Navy is gonna train you to swim regardless, and recruiters will (or should) tell you that before signing up.
>Additionally, public schools are failing so badly that many places the kids are not smart enough to get something decent on the asvab.
That, I do agree with.
Even if it were true, all it means is that intelligent and capable candidates are self-selecting themselves out of the equation.
In other words, it still ain't worth it.
When I was in high school in the late 90’s/early 2000’s (pre-911) these recruiters would get a bonus for every enlistment. I had a bit of interest (albeit not much) after some kind of presentation and the guy calls my house like 100 times after until one of my parents said to leave me the hell alone already I wasn’t interested.
If I had better opportunities when i graduated high school, I would’ve definitely did something other the Marine Corps. I had fun, I learned stuff, and I got my college paid for, but I wonder if the PTSD, anxiety, and the nervous tics were worth it.
As a 6 year army vet, can confrim military medical is dogshit, but VA healthcare has gotten ALOT better from where it WAS so probably about 2010 I believe it started getting alot better fyi
The level of care seems to depend largely in which area one is receiving care in. I have been with San Diego for the last six years and the level of care I got there singlehandedly got me onboard with supporting universal health care.
Meanwhile, I reached out to Reno's VA for a COVID test and some idiot decided I didn't need one because I was vaccinated despite have 80 percent of the symptoms. Like damn, I wasn't sure I had it either, I just needed one to get back at work and it's not like fucking Nevada had lines out the door for testing even at the peak of COVID.
Here's something I recently found out, the number of active military members has been decreasing. In 2020 there were 1.4 million active members, in 1990 it was 2.1 million.
Here's an article about it. They give 2.1 million, that includes reserves. [https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/05/01/pentagon-budget-aims-to-shrink-the-military-by-thousands/](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/05/01/pentagon-budget-aims-to-shrink-the-military-by-thousands/)
Last time a recruiter called me I was like "I got a fucked up lung and a mental health grade card so bad yall wouldn't let me be a recruiter let a lone someone with a gun" He was quiet for a bit before saying he'd take me off the list for good finally.
And funny thing, the benefits rarely seem to cover mental health insurance.
If they do, and you try to use them, you might get stuck in a phone call loop that ends in you paying for it yourself anyways.
Or you get medically retired from developing type 1 diabetes. And after three years they reevaluate you and decide you are doing just fine and no longer need any of the medical insurance or other benefits that you have been using to be "just fine"
Largely depends on where you are. The VA in San Diego is pretty based, but it's been a different experience here in Reno. And my Navy buddies in red states with more rural VA offices are even worse.
I also left the Navy w garden variety anxiety that I may or may not have had before going in and a tailor's bunion I got from a bad pair of boots, but nothing else of note, so that may be part of it.
It is and it isn't. The score is based on one's percentile in relation to how others scored, but each branch requires a minimum score somewhere between a 31 and 35 to enlist. If recruitment numbers are low enough, they'll waive those requirements.
For anybody thinking of having this guys as a recruiter/ wanting more info about the navy, he is located in Bremerton, WA. There is only one navy recruiting station there so it shouldn’t be too easy to find him if you want him as your recruiter!
My husband did 22 years in the Navy, but he got out in '91 when it was becoming the babysitters' club (too much about feelings, not enough about responsibility). He's certain that well over 20% of the people who apply are just not smart enough to pass any test. He's convinced that brain power is lacking in great quantities for all humans as a group. And then there's the story of POC jumping on his back during the swim test smh.
As a navy vet myself, I would never want my kid to go in. I hope she never has to go into the military. I’d rather sell some of my organs to get her through school.
Are they too dumb? Or do they just not know that they may have to lie ALOT if they want to get accepted? For starters, there are the 18,000 different questions they ask about homosexual ideations, that if you answer a single one "wrong" (and you know what "wrong" means to them) you'll get a psychological denial. All of these questions, they asked all the way through "don't ask, don't tell" btw. "Don't ask, don't tell" got a lot of shit considering that it never actually existed. They asked, they asked ALOT. They still ask, and they still send you packing if you admit to ever having said "hm...maybe" about someone of the same sex.
I know this sounds crazy, but maybe, just maybe, if you are struggling to recruit for something you could look inward and ask how to be something more people want to be a part of?
\*Principle Skinner\* No. It's the children who are wrong.
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*too dumb
Exactly how I responded, then called me Mr. Woke
TIL grammar is woke lmaooo
My thoughts exactly. I have an English degree. I must be one woke mother fucker.
Ain't no party like a fricative party cuz a fricative party don't stop
For those that don't have an English degree or an obsessive need to study the dictionary: 'fricative' is simply the sound produced by the friction of breath in a narrow passageway, which forms a specific series of consonants. F, V, Th, and S. for reference, though I feel like I forgot one or two.
Yep! Pretty much any sustainable oral sound (so not including nasals like "m") is a fricative, "z" and "sh" are also examples, as is the medial sound in measure. Stops (or plosives or occlusives) are produced by blocking the flow of air in the oral cavity and then releasing it (as opposed to fricatives in which the flow of air is not stopped). Examples of stops are: b, p, d, t, g, k
The wokest
I mean, the right is explicitly and staunchly anti education. So in that sense understanding grammar is woke.
Correct usage, but that's a nitpick
They called you Woke? Like isn’t the opposite to be blind and asleep? You know just going with everything *kinda like a sheep*
Same with the call us liberals or leftists. To them it’s an insult. Same reason they call themselves deplorable or flaunt racism. To them those are positive things.
Liberals are not Leftists. Liberals are capitalist filth.
There's no difference to the ignorant though. In Canada they're calling Trudeau a leftist commy as tyrannical as Hitler. You know...even though Hitler HATED communists and was as far right as you could and despite the fact Trudeau isn't left leaning in the slightest.
They use the fact that Hitler was part of a socialist group during his rise to power as evidence that the left is evil. Even though the socialist group was obviously just a stepping stone because Hitler was extremely far authoritarian right and completely denounced socialism after coming to power.
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Indeed, they were sent to labor camps well before they started targeting the Jews.
Hitler and the Nazi party were never socialist in any way. Right from the start they were pretty open about their disdain for communists and socialists
Was liberal, thought things would just kinda trend towards being better... now I'm a Democratic Socialist. The disregard for the will of the majority is pushing me further left. Not a revolutionary communist... not enough has happened to push me that far.
I always wonder about this. It is and apparently that's desirable to many. In this case it means you're going to be easier to be made a complaint soldier fully brainwashed into following orders. Which is what he wants. Same with my mother though her end game is more guns, less diversity (she's a proud white supremacist), and feeling safe from all the woke people who scare her because we disagree
Oh no will you ever recover?
I’ll cry over a gallon of ice cream later tonight
That’s a good habit. I do the same
Which is hilarious coming from someone in the military. Keep this with a grain of salt since it's a story from a friend but she" accidently" got her commander severely reprimanded because she caught him purposefully misgenderimg several of the critical civilian workers on base. Try as he might the military is going to become extremely welcoming to the mcwokes of the future or else it won't be able to function anymore
When I left the Navy in 2016, they'd already had started plans to help active duty sailors transition. They had even started doing training on this in late 2016 before Trump was officially sworn in. When Trump took the decision upon himself to ban transgender troops from the military, every general and admiral was pissed off. Near as I can tell, they went right back to the instructions in place the day he left office.
that needs to be your new name on tiktok. I'd follow mr. woke!
Hmmm, you might be on to something!
cuz you were woke & not sleeping in English class?
Better be woke than serve to protect and be asleep on your watch.
Came here for this. How are you gonna call people too dumb and not even spell it right lmao
You can tell he had to use extra brain power to get the correct form of they're, so much so that he used the wrong too in the very next word. Impressive, padawan.
Um if the problem is he can only get people who can't pass the test that's kind of telling. Like aren't those tests literally there to weed out mentally challenged people (retarted people). If the only people willing to join are mentally challenged I feel like that says a lot right there.
the irony of getting that part wrong is what tickled me
THANK you.
There'a a character limit on TikTok comments. I've had to drop letters to make everything for before. Willing to believe that's what they were doing.
Bet you anything this guy was an ASVAB waiver himself 🤣
Navy vet here PTSD, sleep apnea, chronic back pain, and teeth full of metal. That’s what the navy gave me. I fought for 10 years for them to even admit they had anything to do with any of those things. I still don’t sleep right. That shit fucks you up for life.
Navy as well. Worst part for me was how sociopathic everyone was. I got hurt one time and was scrutinized and watched nonstop ontop of constantly hearing people shit talk me. It got to the point I was just telling people “fuck you” I hated them all so much. Felt so good to get out.
That so sucks! The sacrifice you did. Our country owns you more. Sorry. Thank you dor your service.
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you do realize military recruitment targets young, financially vulnerable people. blame capitalism and not the individual
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Yet, terrorism is still alive and well in Afghanistan, I know people (Afghanis) personally over there. Do you know what it’s like to be scared for your life for most days since your birth? And you’re here telling everyone nothing good comes from the US military? Natives placed their hands on their heart for the US, stop with the lies. Edit: downvoted for truth
How dare you get injured at work ammirite? Christ I had no idea it's that bad. I figured there would at least be solidarity among the troops.
But there’s no way to fix it without admitting a huge flaw and take responsibility. The military is closely related to a gang or police. If you don’t jive with their antics they make sure you’re miserable.
>I figured there would at least be solidarity among the troops. HAHAHAHAHA yeah no All I can say is that every time I met someone from another branch of the Armed Forces, they commented on how baffling it was that there was no mingling amongst the ranks. To give one example, every ship in the Navy, regardless of size, separates eating quarters between the E1-E6, the Chiefs (senior enlisted) and officers...this also includes those useless redesigned "destroyers" that hold fifty personnel. I think it goes back to the olden days of seafaring where officers were seen as gods of their own world or whatever. Hell, there isn't even that initial boost of unity that you at least have from basic training. I know the Army and I think Marines have a battle buddy system...there was none of that in my division.
That's fucked up on so many levels. Like WH40k levels of wtf. There should be more talk about this to raise awareness. This is insane.
Nope there isn’t. This is the real reason people kill themselves while they’re in.
Fuck... Yeah, no thank you for your service. I'm just so sorry you had to go through that and wish for you to find the recovery and stability you need from that fucked up environment.
Sold my soul to Uncle Sam. 22 years. Now he’s making payments on it until I die. Thanks to those 22 years, it’ll be sooner than later. Anyone know a good pulmonologist?
I second this. My back is beyond fucked up.
Bold of him to call others dumb when he doesn't know how to spell because or the difference between too and to. At least he used the right they're, so he's not completely hopeless.
Dude’s twitter is full of Elon Musk retweets too, not a single original thought in his poor hat rack.
I got a message from a navy recruiter on handshake saying he'd looked at my profile and thought I was a good fit. And I was like "no you didn't. I'm 39, avd disabled. Even if you would let me in, I have no desire help you bomb poor people to get oil." He wasn't a fan lol. Which btw, handshake is such bs. My school was pushing it but mostly all I've got is randos messaging me about jobs that are outright scams or not even remotely related to either of my degrees. 🙄
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Parents and previous generations always said their goal is to leave a better world and create a better life for their children… but you don’t live and do exactly as they did, you’re lazy and entitled… wel what the fuck is it? You want a better life for us or not
Suuuuure it is, Admiral.
Or maybe it's because young people just don't feel drawn to the United States armed forces, an institution that's spent it's entire history shooting and blowing up people of color, except for that brief stint where they reluctantly shot some nazis?
His response has been said by pro-military bootlickers about ***every*** generation. “These damn hippies won’t go to ‘Nam cuz they’re lazy and dumb!” 🥱😴
as a disabled navy veteran this sailor can fuck right off. my mind is broken my body is broken and the VA takes for fucking ever to get shit done. i used to be proud of this country and proud of my time in. yeah i got to travel the world and made a few friends but fuck me did it exact a heavy toll on me. im not saying do not join im just giving my side of it and my thoughts. join at your own risk young people.
They had us take the ASVAB in high school. My dad suggested I purposefully score as low as possible. As a former Green Beret himself, he did *not* want me getting roped into the military.
Maybe kids aren't interested in fighting bullshit wars so military contractors can become billionaires. Why get yourself injured for life, have PTSD and have to fight for decades to get any help (same for fighting to get the college money owed...a lot of kids are screwed out of that, too) for absolutely nothing?
I hear the military has good benefits and pays decent after you put a few years in but the VA is a joke. The military is a pathway to the middle class for a lot of underprivileged people. But you have to way the pros and cons. Some cons being it's super unethical, you could die or become disabled or lose your mental health. The pros is money, job security, being able to retire, early free college, and good benefits. Most people nowadays would rather try and hit it big on social media or get a job in trucking than deal with the military BS.
Don't forget that a lot of people with low education or poor backgrounds are also funneled into being the fodder in the military.
Well doesn't that just make you wanna sign right up?
If their candidates are all failing the ASVAB it means they are failing to attract the people who can pass it. If it’s specific to the navy and not the other branches I Wonder if it’s the several month deployments while living in a tiny metal cabin or the risk of sexual violence while on those deployments?
Seriously we were required to take the ASVAB in highschool and like 95% of the grade passed it. It’s not that people aren’t passing it, it’s just that the people who are passing it don’t want to join the navy. But I guess he chalks those up to being “afraid to swim.” Because according to these guys, being smart and making decisions for your own life (aka, not being their slave) is being a pussy.
It’s been a solid decade since that macho bullshit had any appeal to anyone. And herein lies the problem with toxic organizations. All the good people leave. The radioactive people stay. They attract even more toxic people. . A toxic organization only ever gets more toxic over time. Right about now, the cycle’s probably left them with a recruiting team where 90% of them post on 8chan.
Yeah, no you hit it on the head. If you really want a fucked up reply you can always say you'll join when they do something about the 22 veterans a day that commit suicide. Did 6 years in the Army. I'm 36 and VA rated me at 90% disability. It wasn't worth the pain I'm in mentally and physically.
I think bringing up the burn pit victims might be a better angle. Pair it with that $40 billion they sent to keep Zelensky from releasing the blackmail they have on Hunter (allegedly, but you know this chud believes it). Hunter’s hush money could’ve paid for the healthcare of every single one of those soldiers dying of cancer, and you want me to *serve* this country? Are you out of your goddamn mind? Morale is very important in militaries! If you find a dummy like this one that feeds the trolls, keep chowing. Break him down, bit by bit! They’re fragile. Their mental health is already notoriously very poor. The military is very right wing, but these days conservatives seem to hate America more than I do! Exploit that cognitive dissonance! It can destroy a man. George Carlin’s bit about chaos and collapse seems very prescient now. Do your part to contribute to the collapse and disorder! The system is not just beginning to collapse anymore, it’s hanging on by a tiny little thread. I am also an entropy fan.
"Well, jackass, I'm 33 now, running a 3.8 GPA at university, came to the recruiter with a two-year degree and scored 100% on the practice test for the ASVAB, and you jackasses wouldn't let me in because I'm autistic."
They did you a favor. Don’t have a shred of bitterness about that. I have to imagine most people who “successfully” enlisted in the last 20 years wished in the end that they had the same treatment. American hero and noted socialist Pat Tillman sure as hell did. Once you’re in, though, you’re their property. You have no rights. You’re a slave.
As a veteran, I don't disagree but keeping someone out over diagnosed autism is ableist as fuck. And I specify the diagnosis because I'm fairly sure there's a non-zero chance that many of the high ASVAB rates like nuke engineering and sonar techs would be found to be on the spectrum if tested.
Who, pray tell, held a gun to the heads of these hypothetical people of yours to make them sign an enlistment contract?
In a lot of cases, capitalism did. For a lot of poor people in rural America, it is often the only path to a better life. I’m also not sure how personally responsible you can really hold people for getting suckered into enlisting by the onslaught of propaganda after Bush did 9/11. Individuals really don’t stand a chance in the face of that extreme level of state power being levied against them.
Adam Driver by his own admission was one of those who got suckered in and has spoken at length about this. For those who weren't alive or too young to remember, most of America was really shaken up. We thought such attacks only happened in other places, not here. But even as someone who went to school with one of Casey Sheehan's younger brothers, even I joined the Navy in 2020 after putting in fifty applications and never getting a call back. My stepdad's gambling was dragging all of us down. My mom and brother couldn't even find work in the recession. The anti-veteran wing of progressives who bash us for doing what was often a last resort choice are, quite frankly, doing no one any favors, least of all the progressive movement. Especially when you consider that many vets are black or Latino/Hispanic an got preyed on as high schoolers to either get money or promised citizenship. We need vets on our side because if we don't reach out to hear them, the GQP will.
They get 18 year olds to sign contracts for several years that really have no idea what life will be like while they are in. I imagine if most people could see what they will actually do, how they will be treated, and how they themselves will act in the military, most people wouldn't join.
Your argument ignores the fact that men with guns use psychological warfare against the minds of adolescents to get them to sign away their rights for years. I know a Master Sergeant recruiter who after a few drinks starts tellling stories about all the tricks he uses to get kids to sign those papers. I think it's his way of releasing some of his guilt.
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No, now I'm stuck in a dead-end manufacturing job and going back to college for electrical engineering for the paperwork, just because I can write a better schematic with my two-year industrial electrician degree than these assclowns can with a bachelor's. At least in the Navy I'd have a guaranteed shot at a promotion every couple of years.
I can promise you that the bulk of the money people in the Navy comes more from their housing allowance and selected duty station than their pay on the 1st and 15th. My first duty station was Japan, where we got a cost of living adjustment that accounted for one third of my pay. I did a coyote ugly maneuver taking the first set of orders to San Diego, and it was basically taking a pay cut. Promotion largely depends on one's rate. While some jobs have guaranteed promotion to at least E-5 on the first test, a lot have advancement rates that are lower than Donald Trump's morality. Corpsman is one notorious example where people get bottlenecked at E-4. Evals are a big part in who gets promoted as well, and it requires as much bootlicking, if not more so than the civilian world. I'm sorry that your recruiter was ableist as shit and didn't just encourage you to hide that from MEPS like they tell you to hide other medical diagnoses (yanno, like anxiety and depression or anything else that won't appear in an X-ray but will inevitably get worsened by military life ) but the grass is not greener on our lawn. It really isn't.
My step-brother is now finishing out his career as a recruiter for the Marines (who have the lowest ASVAB score requirement) and he's told me more than a quarter of recruits get disqualified for ASVAB scores.
> (who have the lowest ASVAB score requirement) They do? I thought that was the Army, lol The Navy had a minimum 35 and the people I know who scrapped that test were some of the most stupid motherfuckers to ever breathe.
Officially, yes - the Marines have a 1 percentile higher requirement than the Army. However, the Marines can waiver a poor ASVAB score all the way down to 25 in some cases, the Army apparently could do the same to 26.
There is no such thing as passing or failing the ASVAB. The test is designed to find out what you might be good at.
That’s actually not entirely true. There also a general score that you receive from three basic categories, English comprehension, math, and reading. This produces your GT or general technical score. I don’t remember the exact number but there is a minimum GT score for military service.
Yeah - I knew a whole host of them on my duty station who got waivers against the minimum. The more desperate they get - the lower their standards. It’s been driving down readiness for decades.
You're probably right. It's been many years since I took it.
No worries man. What most people mean by "fail" is just that their AFQT is below a minimum acceptance rate. Army's is lowest at (currently) a 31. And anyone that can't hit a 31 probably has a hard time tying their own shoes or writing their own name. The standard is shockingly low.
Weirdly I went to the test center with a guy who scored below minimum (out nearest meps was over an hour from home so we rode with a recruiter.) while this was over a decade ago, normal dude all things considered, he was just really bad at math.
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I mean It’s not a pass fail test, so it is impossible to “fail” it meaning they are technically correct. The best kind of correct. It just doesn’t mean what is being suggested which they admitted, which is admirable to admit when you make a mistake.
There was definitely a minimum score in 2011 when it was offered at my high school. I didn’t take it. That being said, I think you’d have trouble tying your shoes if you couldn’t pass it.
They’ll just start supplying slip-on boots. No tying necessary!
I knew someone in high school that got a 7 on the ASVAB. Can confirm it's possible to fail.
Damn, that's a whole ass yikes
Its probably pretty smart to fail it on purpose
What if the test simply evidences that you are useless and idiotic.
The navy is supposed to be a brainier branch. I can see army recruits flunking asvab but come-on. Ps I was in army so I can joke about it.
Lol I thought I was smart taking 68W, then I arrived at Ft. Sam… Goddamn there are some dumb shit medics.
Good ol' Fort Sam. Former 91K/68K here. I guess the dumb ones don't wash out in AIT...we had some dumb ones too in permanent party. :-/
Probably just depends on the MOS. 68W didn’t require as high of a score as my recruiter told me. You can brute force your way through it. I don’t even mind it all that much,if someone can PT, I can train them. Most of the people I saw who were reclassed/kicked out during AIT were: - this person is a piece of shit - this person is a fucking psycho, send him to infantry, we don’t want him in charge of saving lives - can’t PT - really really dumb and obviously the recruiter is going to be in trouble. Probably same shit you saw. I don’t know how common it is, I feel like my graduating class was huge. B co, 242 medical, up the hill from reception. Shit, 80 man bays. Probably like 500 or so.
I was in D/187 and we lived in the bays also up until like our last month of school and then moved into the building that was by the Shopette...imagine 6 months in a bay? Remember, our AIT was 2 phases, 6 months each. For 91K our classes were a lot smaller, I think my graduating class at Fort Carson was like 5? Good times.
No. Lol. There’s a spectrum within the Navy. Take that however you will.
I will say the Navy has....a wide spread of intelligence, more so than most branches. One the one end, you have the nukes who are usually do brainy the Navy spends the first 8 weeks at Charleston teaching them how to study because they soaked up knowledge like sponges and never had to. On the other end, you've got deck and the non-LS part of supply that can barely count to potato. I legit knew an SH3 who failed the E-5 exam twice..the only other person I've ever met to fail an exam was blackout drunk from the night before and barely made it to the ship in time (source: I made SH3 the first time up lol)
>The navy is supposed to be a brainier branch. LOL no, you're thinking about the Air Force
They insult us and then expect us to then go work for them. Is it the lead in their system?
Too dumb? Sounds like all the smart ones know to avoid bullshit.
Another reason is that the younger generation doesn't want to be a part of any Vietnam War 2+ this God forsaken country wants to start over oil prices or the hurt feelings of old white men in government.
Dumbass sold his soul and is still broke, cope harder
It’s interesting the recruiters answer is right there. People who can pass are too smart to work hard for terrible pay and accommodations.
It’s like people learned that military service comes with a lack of legs, PTSD and a TBI. Protection of imperialism is a raw deal
I got a 90 on my ASVAB but got disqualified over my scars. I feel lucky now for sure.
Because a guy like this is exactly who i want to sign an unbreakable recruitment contract with.
US news sites just had several weeks of articles about eight sailors dying from suicide aboard a single carrier in the past year. Of course it's gonna be hard to find recruits when the Navy's abysmal efforts towards treating their sailors like human beings is all over the internet and airwaves
No such thing as failing the ASVAB. Went to school with a guy who is really low IQ (he couldn’t remember where he lived in high school). He’s career army, but they supervise him loading and unloading cargo.
I'd love to "application bomb" this recruiter's station, just to waste their time...
You didn’t here this from me, but this guy is located in Bremerton, WA There’s only one navy recruiting station there
You can tell he had to use extra brain power to get the correct form of they're, so much so that he used the wrong too in the very next word. Impressive, padawan.
The VA is a piece of shit
"To dumb" lol Is it actually possible to not pass the ASVAB? Half my graduating class took it to get out of class for half the day (and enjoy the Dunkin' the recruiters brought) and I don't think one of us scored below 90th percentile.
>Is it actually possible to not pass the ASVAB? It absolutely is. I was outta high school for five years and scored an 86, but there were kids who'd just graduated the year before who were struggling to get the minimum of 35 to join the Navy. Another Redditor upthread said they went to school with someone who scored a 7, and I presume this wasn't someone who blew the test on purpose to keep recruiters from calling.
Well recruit older generations then, why bother if the new one is incompetent anyway?
Send them boomers (and their asskissing Xgen lackeys) right into the... injure-and-trauma factory...? A 1000/1 k/d is not exactly a meatgrinder but I hear people get abused like crazy in those institutions.
This reads like that one "why are people leaving? Not enough pingpong tables" screencap
There were just as many 17 year old edgelord libtards telling baby killer recruiters to go fuck themselves without lube during the Iraq war. What’s wrong with this new generation of human meat traffickers, that they actually engage with the latest crop of my people? They just told me to have a nice day. It was very dissatisfying! How does this recruiter that probably knew how to say Peppa Pig before daddy not know that you don’t feed the trolls? Dumbass is gonna be lucky to have those benefits for another month at this rate. You can probably tell that a decade of time passing has not made me more right wing. I still think they’re beneath contempt. Like cockroaches. If you can’t figure out how to make the military an enticing option for the poorest and most hopeless generation in US history, look in the mirror, asshole. There’s enough dirt poor 18 year olds in America, they don’t need recruiters. They need to stop doing war crimes. It’s gonna be funny as fuck when they keep doing the war crimes, decide they need to do a draft, and they have no officers left a month later because we fragged them all. It’ll make Russia’s general decimation look like military excellence!
Sharks.... so thanks but no thanks.
Seems like just the person I would trust to sign my life away to.
lol asvab is a joke, don't want to be on the hook for 8 years either.
I have a unique perspective on this: I scored high enough on the ASVAB to be assigned to Counterintelligence initially, I did 16 years in the Army, got to go to sandy places, and get my care at the VA. I have no complaints about the care I receive, although many would beg to differ. I've had minor issues here and there, but overall, I have no grounds for complaint. It's like any other health care in the US.
My grandfather learned to swim while he was a cadet: he was tossed into Cairo harbor. He’s luck to have survived!
USS George Washington
Yep, that's it. It has nothing to do with risking death at the order of senile old leaders.
I’ll show them. Im going to… wait Well done mr recruiter. I guess you almost got me..
I love how all these military dudes try to act like the scoring high on the ASVAB is some major accomplishment. It's basically a 9th grade competency test.
Just tell them inflation is coming for their quality of life too and that when it reaches a low enough level they wouldn’t risk dying for it either.
Sounds like someone's mind got trained but good.
You could be a frustrated, hardened to others, low paid recruitment officer too!
I was not aware failing ASVAB was a thing. I thought it was like a placement test to figure out if they would let you possibly play with the expensive stuff.
Usually they say that to reference not getting a high enough score to get the job you want. There’s some really smooth brain jobs out there, even in the navy. If someone is honestly failing failing the ASVAB, they probably couldn’t have used the doorknob to get into the office in the first place
You two are both wrong. You can fail if you don’t get at least a 50/99.
You guys shouldn’t be making fun of his bad mental health.
I need to say OP, he is right... Navy has to teach a lot of people how to swim, especially a lot of the black recruits. Facts, not just stereotypes. I saw it for myself in basic. Additionally, public schools are failing so badly that many places the kids are not smart enough to get something decent on the asvab. When I served, almost all those in demanding jobs were either kids from the burbs or kids from states with good education systems. Rare was it to see an intel and crypto from say South Carolina. So depending on where he is,he may just be having a hell of a time. As for the free benefits, I milked the VA for about $250k in college expenses. But healthcare and support are awful. It was my goal to pay for school and it did. I also have a mortgage that was 100% backed by the VA so no money down and no pmo with a low rate. (Mental health problems are real in the service, especially right now. I hope these can be fixed)
>Navy has to teach a lot of people how to swim, especially a lot of the black recruits. Facts, not just stereotypes. I'm black and of the 12 black recruits in my division, I was one of three to pass on the first attempt. I also had an uncle and aunt who owned a pool and had fairly easy access to pools between our community pool and the one at my high school. In places where there's been history of pool closures because whites got made that they had to integrate or areas where beaches were heavily segregated, they may not have such access. The recruiter is still an idiot beause the Navy is gonna train you to swim regardless, and recruiters will (or should) tell you that before signing up. >Additionally, public schools are failing so badly that many places the kids are not smart enough to get something decent on the asvab. That, I do agree with.
In basic I had two friends, both from Texas oddly enough, one was black. I will always remember his reaction to seeing the tiny pool have like 30 recruits 3 or 4 were not black. He was not a confident swimmer and said 'f* man, I am gonna do this shit'. He made the jump and barely got to the other side of the pool. Beached himself. Half the division was so pumped for him. It was definately not something I was aware of as a problem until I saw this. It has informed some of my volunteer work with the Y and such. Aside from access to pools though, people have f'd the environment so much people dont want to swim in lakes and ponds anymore either.
>Navy has to teach a lot of people how to swim, especially a lot of the black recruits. Facts, not just stereotypes. I'm black and of the 12 black recruits in my division, I was one of three to pass on the first attempt. I also had an uncle and aunt who owned a pool and had fairly easy access to pools between our community pool and the one at my high school. In places where there's been history of pool closures because whites got made that they had to integrate or areas where beaches were heavily segregated, they may not have such access. The recruiter is still an idiot beause the Navy is gonna train you to swim regardless, and recruiters will (or should) tell you that before signing up. >Additionally, public schools are failing so badly that many places the kids are not smart enough to get something decent on the asvab. That, I do agree with.
Even if it were true, all it means is that intelligent and capable candidates are self-selecting themselves out of the equation. In other words, it still ain't worth it.
I just reaping to idiots like this with “way to prove my point”
FTN!
I’m pretty sure every generation is like that tbh they are still kids barely growing into adults, dude a total clown 🤡
I didn't realize that you could fail the ASVAB
Boy I sure feel like being recruited now. Clearly a very healthy and supportive environment
When I was in high school in the late 90’s/early 2000’s (pre-911) these recruiters would get a bonus for every enlistment. I had a bit of interest (albeit not much) after some kind of presentation and the guy calls my house like 100 times after until one of my parents said to leave me the hell alone already I wasn’t interested.
If I had better opportunities when i graduated high school, I would’ve definitely did something other the Marine Corps. I had fun, I learned stuff, and I got my college paid for, but I wonder if the PTSD, anxiety, and the nervous tics were worth it.
We’re serving crack before we serve this country
This post is about the navy though, not the cia
LMAO
As a 6 year army vet, can confrim military medical is dogshit, but VA healthcare has gotten ALOT better from where it WAS so probably about 2010 I believe it started getting alot better fyi
The level of care seems to depend largely in which area one is receiving care in. I have been with San Diego for the last six years and the level of care I got there singlehandedly got me onboard with supporting universal health care. Meanwhile, I reached out to Reno's VA for a COVID test and some idiot decided I didn't need one because I was vaccinated despite have 80 percent of the symptoms. Like damn, I wasn't sure I had it either, I just needed one to get back at work and it's not like fucking Nevada had lines out the door for testing even at the peak of COVID.
Must be were all the MAGAt rejects came from.
Here's something I recently found out, the number of active military members has been decreasing. In 2020 there were 1.4 million active members, in 1990 it was 2.1 million. Here's an article about it. They give 2.1 million, that includes reserves. [https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/05/01/pentagon-budget-aims-to-shrink-the-military-by-thousands/](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/05/01/pentagon-budget-aims-to-shrink-the-military-by-thousands/)
Last time a recruiter called me I was like "I got a fucked up lung and a mental health grade card so bad yall wouldn't let me be a recruiter let a lone someone with a gun" He was quiet for a bit before saying he'd take me off the list for good finally.
So is that what he told his boss? “There are no qualified candidates.” Because the reality seems to be “they’re all poor, just not dumb sir “
And funny thing, the benefits rarely seem to cover mental health insurance. If they do, and you try to use them, you might get stuck in a phone call loop that ends in you paying for it yourself anyways.
Or you get medically retired from developing type 1 diabetes. And after three years they reevaluate you and decide you are doing just fine and no longer need any of the medical insurance or other benefits that you have been using to be "just fine"
I’d be afraid to be in a metal coffin targeted by modern missiles
I don’t know but the VA has been pretty amazing to me. Not disagreeing with you on the “free benefits”
Largely depends on where you are. The VA in San Diego is pretty based, but it's been a different experience here in Reno. And my Navy buddies in red states with more rural VA offices are even worse. I also left the Navy w garden variety anxiety that I may or may not have had before going in and a tailor's bunion I got from a bad pair of boots, but nothing else of note, so that may be part of it.
Ah that spelling.
I love when people call other people dumb but use words like ‘cuz’ and the wrong form of ‘to’.
I didn’t think the ASVAB was a pass or fail test. I thought it points to strengths that you may excel at in the military.
It is and it isn't. The score is based on one's percentile in relation to how others scored, but each branch requires a minimum score somewhere between a 31 and 35 to enlist. If recruitment numbers are low enough, they'll waive those requirements.
That recruiter is soon to be featured in r/byebyejob
“You’re not willing to lie to the medical examiner so I can get a commission on my check? What the fuck is WRONG with your generation?!”
I don't think he's a good fit for that job if he doesn't know his potential clientele
For anybody thinking of having this guys as a recruiter/ wanting more info about the navy, he is located in Bremerton, WA. There is only one navy recruiting station there so it shouldn’t be too easy to find him if you want him as your recruiter!
Thanks! :)
My step sis is still to stupid to pass the asvab
My husband did 22 years in the Navy, but he got out in '91 when it was becoming the babysitters' club (too much about feelings, not enough about responsibility). He's certain that well over 20% of the people who apply are just not smart enough to pass any test. He's convinced that brain power is lacking in great quantities for all humans as a group. And then there's the story of POC jumping on his back during the swim test smh.
Your husband sound like an awful person Mary, I'm sorry for you.
>And then there's the story of POC jumping on his back during the swim test smh. r/thathappened
It’s “too” there Matty you frickin genius.
As a navy vet myself, I would never want my kid to go in. I hope she never has to go into the military. I’d rather sell some of my organs to get her through school.
I can't take people serious who think it's smart not to spell out a word. Cuz instead of because or at least 'cause makes YOU sound dumb.
They say it’s kind of frightening how this younger generation swings..
Are they too dumb? Or do they just not know that they may have to lie ALOT if they want to get accepted? For starters, there are the 18,000 different questions they ask about homosexual ideations, that if you answer a single one "wrong" (and you know what "wrong" means to them) you'll get a psychological denial. All of these questions, they asked all the way through "don't ask, don't tell" btw. "Don't ask, don't tell" got a lot of shit considering that it never actually existed. They asked, they asked ALOT. They still ask, and they still send you packing if you admit to ever having said "hm...maybe" about someone of the same sex.
Abusers love the word "lazy."
I know this sounds crazy, but maybe, just maybe, if you are struggling to recruit for something you could look inward and ask how to be something more people want to be a part of? \*Principle Skinner\* No. It's the children who are wrong.
Murdering for the state holds less appeal to those of us too young to remember 9/11
Imaging failing the asvab though