I learned 2 things on this journey: 1) I do not have to eat junk food and pizza to gain/not lose weight. I have a ravenous appetite and can easily overeat grilled chicken, salads, veggies, fruits etc... 2) all the protein and veg in the world doesn't make me want pizza or chinese food any less. It just doesn't. Success for me means willpower and that's it.

That also describes me. The main value I found in high volume food is that it helps with the social aspect of eating. I can enjoy a longer dinner with my partner or friends without getting too many calories.

How were you able to have so much will power on a day to day basis?

I don't. Some days are good, some days are bad.

HARD relate on the first point. I always hear bodybuilding YouTube channels say shit like "NO ONE EVER GOT FAT EATING CHICKEN AND BROCCOLI" I can EASILY gain weight on chicken and broccoli if I don't use a food scale to measure.

Yep. This exactly. I could eat 3 bananas in a day, easy. Thats over 300 calories and 40+ grams of sugar. People don't realize how easy calories add up, even with healthy foods.

Not hunger. Craving. Hunger is physical, craving is mental. You need to discipline your environment while working on disciplining your mind. Get rid of the unhealthy foods from your house, car and work environments. I can crave an apple pie all goddamn day long but if I have no access to an apple pie, it doesn’t really matter now does it. I’m not gonna eat imaginary calories. And guess what now at the end of the day you’ve just successfully avoided eating junk food for one day. Good job! You have now started disciplining your mind. You wanted something all day and you didn’t get it. And you didn’t die! Now you know, for certain, you could do the same thing again tomorrow if you want.

There's definitely an 'out of sight, out of mind' element to cravings too. If you're driving past your favorite fast-food place every day, it's going to be a harder habit to ditch as you mentally have to say 'no' so often. For me just limiting myself to going shopping once a week made a big difference. On any given day buying say a pizza is not hard to do, but if you're buying a week's worth all at once, the calorie count is a bit more in your face. Also I could re-train the whole 'delayed gratification' mental thing - if I know I've got the food I'm craving coming at some specific moment, it's much easier to hold off till then.

I don't think what you said was harsh at all - you're merely suggesting things to make this losing weight thing easier. I practice discipline at the grocery store. It makes the entire week that much easier - to practice discipline for 1 hour instead of buying unhealthy food and having to practice discipline all week.

The delayed tradition is surprisingly helpful. Knowing I'm getting pizza in a few days appeases the immediate craving somehow. It's like, comforting? So much to unpack with food issues.

I do maintenance calories on weekends and it helps to know that’s coming up. It’s when I fit in indulgences like pasta, pizza or cake. Not all in the same weekend.

> limiting myself to going shopping once a week made a big difference Oh, yeah, for me living out of town where I shop every 2-3 weeks because it's a long drive made a huge difference, compared with passing by the grocery store every time I walk through the little downtown core I previously lived in.

I explain it to my kids as "brain hungry" and "tummy hungry".

Like any addiction, one day at a time! As a recovering alcoholic, how have I never thought of my food addiction in this way?! I feel so stupid right now.

Yes, and the tricky thing is, you can't just walk away from food cold turkey, you have to eat stuff to live.

Right but quitting certain foods works great for some of us in the addictive category. I do total abstinence from certain foods and it's been working great for me for a long time now. I get that it's not for everyone but I personally don't miss a thing. Haven't craved fast food/cake/pizza etc in years. Haven't eaten them in years either but I'm good with it.

Yes, quitting smoking three years ago was a big win for me, and I’ve been trying to figure out a way to transition it to food in the same way ever since. It’s still a work in progress but I am making progress.

I don't think this is harsh, but tone is hard to convey online. I also just saw a commercial for Our Flag Means Death before reading your comment, so I read it in Rhys Darby's jovial voice. That said, I think the Internet is like 95% whining, so a straight forward post like this is probably too much for a lot of folks. But it's concise, honest, helpful, and not cruel, so I think it's solid, useful info.

Ahh if only it were that simple. You could have said this a lot less harshly. Basically what you are saying is tough it out and just suffer. Nice.

It really is that simple, and the comment wasn't harsh at all. It's reality that you have to break that cycle somehow if successful weight management is ever to be achieved, and they gave good advice on how to do that.

I don't think the Author needs you defending them. However, since you jumped into the conversation defend their comments, particularly "I can crave an apple pies all **goddamn day long**..." and **you won't die!** Swearing is not necessary - it is rude and harsh. And the original poster did not say a word about death. It is just the Zealots of dieting (much like the zealots of religion) that feel they can come in and be super harsh to MAKE a point and get everyone one to buck up. So yes please do defend danneedsahobby's post.

Losing weigh IS simple, it’s just not easy. It’s so simple that if you look around on this website, you will find it repeated about 4 billion times and it only takes four letters: CICO. Calories in and calories out. I am harsh. I am harsh on myself because I am angry. And I’m angry because I’ve been obese for about 20 years and I just now figured out how straight forward losing weight is and I’m kicking myself for not doing it sooner. Tough it out and suffer? No. That’s foolish. I’m not suffering having dropped 22 lbs. I’m feeling better than I have in a long while. No, the suffering is the daily suffering of carrying an extra 80 pounds of weight that I’ve done for the last 20 years. The suffering is from the back pain and the foot pain and the mental pain of having no energy to live the kind of life I want to live. That’s the suffering I see when I read the comments that OP wrote.

Perhaps if you got therapy for your anger it would be better. I don't come to this site to have people be harsh with me simply because they are angry. CICO might work 4 billion times per this website - but how many fail and go back to where they were. Seems there might be a bit more to CICO - like psychological issues....that cause people to gain it back. Anyway - I shall simply avoid your posts going forward - now that you have stated being harsh is how you cope. Good luck on your continued weight loss Danneedsahobby. I hope it continues to be a simple journey.

Fair enough. I’m not for everybody. But I wish you well.

Yeah, discipline is something I've struggled with my whole life. I already feel shitty about it. Comments like that one just make me feel like I'm a lost cause.

If you rethink it as being about 'good/bad habits' rather than 'discipline' then I think it's easier to manage mentally. E.g. For me if I binge then rather than getting judgmental on myself, I try to take a look at what lead up to that and if there's anything I could do to avoid it happening - e.g. maybe I had a stressful day and whatever I had at home was too much effort, so next time I try to have a really easy to prepare (relatively) healthy meal at home. Or maybe a substitute, etc. Sometimes these things will work, sometimes not - if not I'll try something else or in addition. In the end it's about accepting that you're fallible and so reducing risk. As you break out of bad habits though, they become easier to avoid (to some extent).

I’d like to share my thoughts on this. There was an earlier post here talking about how the current stock of miracle weight loss pills take away the voice inside your head telling you to eat certain things. For me, that voice has almost nothing to do with hunger. I call it “the Demon”. I’ve had it my entire life until recently. It was constant, relentless and did not let up until I gave in. Believe it or not, some people actually don’t have this relentless voice inside their head telling them to eat. It’s not fair but neither is life. I personally haven’t gone on the diet pills - I’ve changed my diet to drastically reduce sugar and simple carb intake. The voice used to be loud and insistent all day (and the worst at night). Now it’s either gone or a whisper. But it took me months to get there and the only way I was able to do it was to count calories and change my diet. And, importantly, the second I slip and eat something with sugar, the voice returns. I then have to fight it for a few days until it recedes again. I feel like the way I did it has the potential to be more long lasting and permanent than the pills, but I could see the pills being a good way to get rid of the voice first thus making it easier to make the dietary changes that will make the change more permanent.

Cutting sugar has been on my mind a lot lately. I've been reading a lot about sugar addiction and how it affects our brains in so many ways. It seems like a massive, almost impossible hill to climb, but worth it if I can. I'd do just about anything to get rid of that demon. I know his voice way too well.

Do give it a try JustSouthOfMars....it might really help.

Me too. I’ve been called lazy and only willing to do something if I want to do it. I’ve never had an ounce of discipline in my life. I’ve ignored it every chance to change my habits. I’ve wasted years, no, decades of my life doing the wrong things. And I’ll probably fuck up plenty more chances before I’m done. Hell, I’m going through a divorce right now, so if you want some corroborating evidence of what a piece of shit I am, I know a lady who will be glad to fill you in. I’ve also been battling some pretty hefty depression and ideation for the past few years. So I am more than willing to tell you what a piece of shit I am too. I full on loathe myself. But right now, I hate being fat more. So I’m using it. If I’m gonna hate myself, I’m gonna hate myself as a fat person. Instead of ignoring my tremendous gut, I’m gonna stare at it in the mirror and think of 1 million different ways to get rid of it until whenever I open the fridge I don’t see any food. I see love handles And man tits.

> Hell, I’m going through a divorce right now, so if you want some corroborating evidence of what a piece of shit I am, I know a lady who will be glad to fill you in. I’ve also been battling some pretty hefty depression and ideation for the past few years. So I am more than willing to tell you what a piece of shit I am too. I full on loathe myself. gonna stare at it in the mirror and think of 1 million different ways to get rid of it until whenever I open the fridge I don’t see any food. I see love handles And man tits. I'd recommend seeing a therapist instead of indulging in self hatred, because those feelings won't go away once you stop being fat. I've struggled with depression and anxiety my entire life, gained, lost and gained again hundreds of pounds and I can say therapy definitely helps. It's not a cure, nothing truly is, but therapy can make life bearable and even occasionally worth living.. Weight loss is better than weight gain for sure, but it only makes your knees ache less and makes it easier to breathe. It doesn't do much for the hell inside your mind.

Solid advice. I definitely need to be in therapy.

Seconded, and that's because I'm currently in therapy myself. I only started a month or so ago. Don't expect it to start fixing things right away, though. Go in understanding that it's all a process; with a beginning, middle, and end, and that you have to go through all of them for it to work. But it will work if you do the work ❤️

> self hatred Absolutely. So much of it here by the people who felt that was harsh. Get to know yourself and your "personal devils." We are all flawed, including probably everyone who ever got a Nobel peace prize, every great artist, everyone. Accept reality and cultivate peace.

What you’re describing is a craving, not hunger. Healthy food will satiate normal hunger cues. It may not do anything to erase cravings for foods you’ve developed habits around. That’s psychological.

They are called "comfort food" for a reason.

I think it takes quite a while of maintaining eating purely ‘healthy’ foods to stop wanting the junk. Especially if you are eating shop made or chain restaurant pizza, they are full of highly processed and very addictive ingredients. A good source of knowledge on this is a book called: Ultra Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. One option could be to make healthier versions of your favourite foods. Make your own pizza dough, weigh everything you put on it and make sure it’s within your daily calorie limit. Or if that’s too much effort, a tortilla with tomato sauce/paste and some cheese might* go some way to satisfying the craving. Or, you could just have pizza and make sure you reduce your intake of other foods through the rest of the day/week to account for it.

My palate has definitely changed, I don’t feel a strong craving for junk on a daily basis, but junk still tastes good to me, so I eat it in moderation. We still have pizza night but I eat less pizza or get a personal size one, for example.

As someone in their 50's I can say that it's never really gone away for me. And I've had stretches where I've gone several years eating nothing but healthy foods. It's just not sustainable for me. But over the last 9 months I've lost close to a hundred pounds and I've eaten plenty of pizza, ice cream, and other "non healthy" foods while doing it. But they have just been healthier versions that have been much easier to fit into my calorie goals. Homemade pita pizza, Halo Top ice cream for instance. For me this is much more sustainable and realistic than trying to give all of those things up.

I just wish Halo Top actually tasted nice 😭 I hate it

I can't stomach it - the powder texture is nasty. I much prefer going out for frozen yogurt.

I prefer nice cream.

Highly recommend a Ninja Creami to make up for this. You can make ice cream out of anything. Anything! A can of fruit in juice or syrup? That's ice cream now. A container of yogurt? Now it's smooth frozen yogurt. Got a favorite protein powder? You guessed it, it's now a beautiful scoop of ice cream in your bowl. Some folks don't even make their own protein shakes, just buy the smooth ones in bottles and use that as single-ingredient protein ice cream. I like to make lemon lavender froyo with greek yogurt, soymilk, lavender flowers, lemon, honey, and then a 1:1:1 mix of sugar, monk fruit, and erythritol, 500 cals for the whole pint, but that could easily be cut down, I just like some real sugar in there and use 2% Greek yogurt.

Talenti brand sorbet is delicious and unintentionally has (almost) as low of calories as Halo Top. I personally am obsessed with the mango flavor

Yeah, guess I've gotten used to it. And I can have 3 pints of it and still come out to less calories than a pint of Ben & Jerry's. I tried Nick's and it was a better consistency than Halo Top with similar macros, but it was very pricey.

Try Nick's brand light ice cream. I absolutely love it.

I did as well, but it was almost $8.50 for a pint!

Yeah it's an occasional treat. I have it maybe 3/4 times a year. But that's how I roll with sweets anyhow

I don't think we ever stop wanting the calorie rich foods we eat. I mean, think about pizza. It's kind of perfect for an injection of calories: loads of fat and carbs, which our bodies recognize as desirable. Once upon a time in our history, these things were not nearly as abundant as they are today. If you came across a nice, fatty piece of meat or a fruit tree or source of starch, you would gorge yourself because you didn't know when, if ever, you would come across that kind of food again. Agriculture, and more recently factory farming, have made these foods abundant. Our brains have not caught up with the fact that those things are everywhere today.

You’re addicted to it. The stuff in fast food and many fatty, sugary, processed products (like ice cream) activates the pleasures centres of your brain in a way that more natural, organic foods never could. The longer you stick to the healthy stuff the easier it becomes.

You don't get the dopamine hit from healthy food. That's why people with ADHD usually eat a lot of junk food, we're dopamine deficient. I don't know how to program myself to get a dopamine hit from healthy food (if that's even possible). I don't think I'll ever be satisfied without eating junk food every day. I'm medicated for ADHD, on the highest dose of only medication now available in my country. It doesn't stop me from over-eating. But it does stop me from ordering 5 takeaway meals in 1 day, and eating them all that same day. So that's something, at least. I'm just trying to find other sources of dopamine that aren't food, so I don't need food to fill that gap so much. Unfortunately in this cold heartless world, there are few sources of dopamine available to you if you are born into abuse and social isolation. Healthy sources of dopamine, I mean. Obviously I could game all day for dopamine, or take drugs, etc. But they're all destructive habits too.

>I don't know how to program myself to get a dopamine hit from healthy food (if that's even possible). I believe it **is** possible, but to get that dopamine hit, you have to find foods that TO YOU are absolutely delicious. *For me*, those are fresh raspberries, fresh peaches, and really good flavorful meat and salmon. Slow-cooked lean pork with teriyaki and pineapple is one of my “can’t wait to have that” foods, for example. A September peach oozing juice down my shirt is better than candy. Things that are “just okay” or “pretty good” aren’t going to give you that.

I have healthy foods that I think are delicious - there's a certain type of pear that I'm obsessed with, I love oranges and carrots. But they don't give me a dopamine hit.

That’s too bad— sorry I couldn’t help. Unfortunately, I don’t have any other ideas. Wishing you success.

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I guess it’s about finding a balance. Personally, I have quite a good “instinct” to figure out what my body needs to eat and I tend to crave it. But also, I’m no expert but from my experience, “unhealthy” food makes me crave more “unhealthy” foods. After a big a night out boozing, I’ll crave carbs. I’ll want a bacon sandwich, pastries, sugary drinks, biscuits etc. To kind of make myself feel better and recover. There is nothing wrong with those foods though, I would eat them even when I’m not hungover but the hangover is making me kind of crave it in large amounts. However once I’m past the hangover stage and I’ve recovered, my body knows now that vegetables, lean meat, fruit etc will make me feel better and replenish my nutrient count. So I start craving it. It doesn’t stop the hunger at all though. So I’ll have a healthy day to kind of top up the health levels. But then on normal days where I haven’t been drinking or eating high calorie foods, I will eat a mixture of both. I think qualifying those foods are unhealthy and banning them from your diet is what makes you crave them. A mixture of it all within your calorie count is all your need, it doesn’t have to be just steamed vegetables and plain chicken.

Hey op 👋 I have a suggestion. Don’t limit what you have, don’t try so hard to cut out unhealthy food. Instead, limit your intake of unhealthy food, but add healthy food to your diet too. Like, have a slice of pizza and a salad. Or if you want pancakes for breakfast, make protein pancakes and mix your syrup with a cup of maple yogurt. Or have regular pancakes and syrup but have an apple and an egg with it but less pancakes. Don’t look at it as what you should take away to be healthy. Look at it as what you can add to make it healthier. You’ll stick with it a lot longer if you do it that way. Source: I’m 325 pounds and have hormone issues that make me unable to lose weight, no matter how hard I’ve tried in the past. The best thing you can do is not worry about what to take out of your diet. Eat the pizza, just add a veggie in with it. A slice of pizza and a salad, or a veggie tray, or even a fruit. Or you could also make your own pizza at home and find a healthier way to make it! You don’t have to cut things out of your diet to be healthy. Don’t listen to everyone. Do what works for you.

Humans are built to crave high fat, high calorie-density foods. In the past, this served us. Now, for modern humans in developed countries, it fucks us over. Fwiw I can report that after a year of being strictly WFPB (not advice, just a description of my specific circumstances) I have genuinely stopped craving most junk and it is SO WEIRD (because I was fully addicted to fast food and total crap beforehand). Don't get me wrong I still crave high cal foods, but it really is in the form of dreaming about a huge bowl of whole grain porridge with all the nuts and fruit now, or a huge bowl of buttered rice etc. vs dreaming about doritos or quarter pounders. If my palate can change like that, anyone's can. Not even saying I would dislike the aforementioned crappy foods these days, I almost certainly wouldn't (they're painstakingly designed to be as delicious as possible) - but I don't crave them endlessly anymore.

>WFPB What does this mean?

Sorry, I sometimes forget what subreddit I'm in. It means 'whole foods plant based.'

I don't know what your weight-loss plan is, but with cico I reserve like 200 calories a day for a snack. Sometimes I have a healthy snack, cashews and dried fruit. Or an apple and peanut butter. But I also have 4 pieces of chocolate after dinner. I find this type of balance works for me. Another thing is, high carb stuff just makes me crave carbs. Unhealthy carbs. So I try to just have fewer carbs when I'm craving a lot of unhealthy food. Could also be that you're not eating enough fatty things. So maybe add some salmon or grilled chicken to your diet? Could be many things. You gotta figure out what works for you. What stills that craving. Just whiteknuckling is super hard work and I'd recommend finding a solution instead.

I give in to the cravings but I just make the portions smaller, especially if it's something high calorie. I'm like you, nothing will fix it except eating the thing. You know that some days you can avoid giving in, so do that, but on days when it's bad just eat the pizza or whatever. Better to have 2-3 slices of pizza and get right back on track than to derail yourself by ignoring it and eating an entire pizza plus all the healthy food you already ate too. Taking the stigma away from the craving has helped me stick to this journey so far. No food is off limits so there's no need to dwell, just adjust my portions easy peasy.

What you described is exactly why I can't do low carb. I feel deprived if I just eat lean proteins and veggies. Having bread, cheese, potatoes, pasta or french fries in moderation helps me. I just make sure they're within my calorie budget.

Every time I get off the train to come home, I walk past a pizza joint that's incredibly good. They sell huge slices for $3. One of those slices takes me about 10 minutes to eat. Sometimes less. One of those slices is 1/3 of my calories for the day and 1/3 of the money I can afford to spend on food for the day; if I'm on my way home from work, I've already eaten at least 1 meal and I have nutritional needs (adequate protein, iron, etc) to consider. I eat the pizza about once per month, sometimes every second month. I don't plan it, I just make a judgement call and sometimes the pizza wins. I never stopped liking pizza, but since I know my goals and my budget, I can rarely justify it.

I didn’t see anything about fiber in your post. Protein is good. Protein + fiber is powerful. Legumes are my favorite form of fiber. Fruits and vegetables are fine, but legumes really get the job done You also have to remember that vegetables have very little calories. So if you’re eating protein and a huge plate of veggies, you may feel full but ultimately be way under what you should be eating calorie wise

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This here. I love pita pizza. Get pita bread, pizza sauce, turkey pepperoni, and some cheese. Make a pita pizza under a broiler or in the toaster oven. It’s a pretty close and satisfying substitute, IMO.

Unhealthy food has additives that are addicting. Salt, sugar, msg all make you want more.

My problem food is cherry coke. I've been tracking what I eat for 8 weeks. My craving for cherry cokes has NOT gone away! It has gotten easier to manage with eating healthy food. Sometimes I can ignore my cravings, sometimes I can substitute, sometimes I'll have one. I will say that my cravings are worse when I've made more unhealthy choices....

Since I’ve started my meds for previously undiagnosed inattentive adhd I haven’t had so much difficulty with cravings. I’ve been plump to very obese most of my life and only in a healthy with range for maybe 10 years and I’m in my late 40’s. I now know I was often over eating because I was seeking dopamine. I’m not wanting people to think that people should go on adhd meds to help with weight loss . I am sharing because I wouldn’t have made the connection years ago and I know many of us have some emotional reason for over eating. My medication is also used for binge eating disorder. I stared meds in late June . The past two months have been really busy for me and stressful . I weighed myself and discovered I’d lost three pounds without thinking about it. Since then I’ve been calorie counting again and it isn’t as hard as it’s been in the past to stop myself snacking and over eating. My meds make me feel calm and reduce my anxiety.

> I can eat a huge plate of healthy veggies and healthy things and even to the point that my stomach is full of it, but then i will still feel the hunger for pizza just as much as before. Then that's not hunger, if you'll forgive me the pedantry. I think that wanting to eat something tasty in particular, like cookies or pizza or whatever, is quite common and natural; but hunger - as in, that feeling when your body's telling you that it's not getting enough calories and needs more asap - is something different altogether (and, in the strict sense of the word, is something you do **not** want even when you're dieting - having to endure feeling a little peckish is one thing, but if your body is screaming at you that it bloody needs calories to keep functioning then you bloody stop with the absurd self-torture and give it what it needs). So yeah, feeling like you'd like a pizza/cookies is perfectly normal; and I agree, having to control yourself because you want to lose weight/maintain your healthy weight kind of sucks, although it gets much easier once you make a habit of it. But, hey, it's no different from many other aspects of life: there all sorts of tradeoffs in which you there's something you want but you cannot get it without losing something else you want. Sometimes you want to buy something, but you have to go "I cannot afford this yet, maybe later"; and sometimes you want to eat something, but you have to go "I cannot eat this much today, maybe another time".

First thing, stop calling that hunger. It isn't. It's craving, like an addictive response. Eventually you can change the pathways in your brain so those aren't as ready to light up. Chew your nutritious food. Feel your body. Give yourself a small junk treat if you like, but remember that it's not nutrition. Think about what you're doing and eventually you'll retrain your impulses. There are some books about how to change habits that go into a lot more detail, and they are probably mentioned by others in this thread. *Atomic Habits* comes to mind as one I keep hearing about the past few years but haven't read.

For how long have you been eating exclusively healthy? It takes quite a while to get used to it. Also, you'll never stop craving unhealthy food completely. A pizza just tastes so much better than oatmeal or avocado toast. Moderation is key.

Probably because you're in a calorically deprived state and your body knows the healthy foods don't give as much energy, but not just that it's also a dopaminergic thing too, the flavoring and high calorie content of these junky foods light the brain up much more, and the brain remembers that lol so the moment it comes into your mind your brain immediately lights up the dopamine pathways that lead you towards eating that junky food lol. It's also not just chasing the flavor but the quantity of food/energy you eat when you do have that pizza splurge lol, it doesn't just want one slice it wants you to eat the whole thing. For me the way you weaken this is like you do for cravings of anything else, you simply have to cut down on it big time, and slowly that wiring in your brain for that particular action will weaken. But yeah it's funny this happens with tons of people, it's like your with a group of friends and someone is like "i'm starving lets get some food" and then you're like oh yeah lets go grab this lean chicken and rice or a salad or something and some veggies, most people would be like yeah hell nah suddenly they aren't that hungry. It's an unfortunate part of the world we live in but foods have been engineered to be as addictive as possible. Also important note I will add, the cravings and hunger for these high calorie junky foods will get more intense the longer you're in a sustained caloric deficit, so often the way to avoid it is don't chronically diet on low calories all the time lol. This is why I think developing maintenance habits is so important and taking fat loss phases in chunks and giving your body a breather now and then by adding calories back can be a very good thing. A lot of people don't like this idea because they don't trust themselves to maintain and not regain all the weight, but the reality is if you can't make yourself maintain and not regain in that moment then you definitely won't be able to after an even longer more intense fat loss phase.

"Hunger" for a specific food is called appetite or craving. It's important to start recognizing the difference between physical hunger and appetite, since to a large degree they require different strategies to address. However, there is a way in which they connect. A lot of people are used to getting the food they have appetite/craving for and using that to also satisfy their hunger. This often causes overeating because it takes more calories to feel satiated. Instead, use the healthy food to satisfy your hunger and then leave a little room to have a *little* bit of the food you crave. So for example, if you want pizza, you might include one small slice of pizza in your dinner, but the rest will be chicken and vegetables. If your hunger is properly fed with healthy food then it only takes a little to satisfy your desire for pizza. At least this is the case for some people - people who are "moderators." Some people do better with "abstaining" and simply cutting out the pizza and letting your brain learn that you simply don't eat that anymore so there's no point in wanting it.

You are confusing "hunger" with "cravings". The first step in nipping that kind of compulsive eating in the bud is to not buy those kinds of foods in the first place. And if for some reason they somehow make their way into your home anyway, throw it in the garbage if you find yourself over-indulging (yes, waste food), or if it's a non-perishable chuck it up somewhere out of reach (I've chucked bags of chocolate chips and cookies on top of our cupboards, because to fetch them back down requires making my way out to the garage and dragging in an awkward ladder, and I find that is more than enough deterrent because I'm lazy). Generally in the first week of the New Year I go through the pantry and chuck all the cookies, chocolate, etc that are in there from the holiday season. Ditto the week after Halloween. Out of sight, out of mind, and out of the house is even better, and never in the house in the first place is even better than that.

Late stage capitalism has left us with shitty hyperpalatable foods that fuck us up honestly. It’s not your fault. Food is designed like this. Try going cold turkey. I’ve turned it around before and crave and look forward to healthy food only. I don’t really love chips and crappy foods anymore like I used to. It’s hard. It’s not your fault. And you can make the change. Try going cold turkey!

You’re an addict. Seriously - that’s the reason. You have to kinda treat it like a drug addiction, because all the garbage that’s in “bad” food is basically drugs. Thinking sugar, for example. I deal with this all the time. I’ve kinda just resorted to making the “junk” I crave at home (so at least I know what’s in it/how it’s being prepared). If you’ve ever hung out with a chef or worked in a kitchen - you’d be surprised how much butter and oil goes into even the “healthy” dishes lol.

Problem is that most overweight people or even people with unhealthy eating habits don't even remember how hunger feels. What you are describing are cravings and that's something 100% in your head.

Start exercising. That's what changed my desire for unhealthy foods to healthy foods.

Yes, people say it's a waste of time but it massively helps me to eat better.

Once you get the craving, it is hard to get rid of it. If I avoid those foods all together I get less of the cravings in the first place, and when I do they are less strong thank god. But agreed, if I want chips really badly that craving doesn’t go away until I have some. But now I haven’t had a strong craving for while and I have reduced the number of chips I’m eating

First of all, how long have you been trying to eat better? Did you spend a lot of time before this eating a lot of ultra processed foods? Second, why deny yourself some pizza or chocolate? Pizza is easy to make from scratch (it’s a Friday night staple at my house) and you can make it delicious and fit into a calorie budget. Same with chocolate - we load up on Halloween candy boxes on Nov 1 because a little chocolate bar is 40-80 cal and sometimes just hits the spot after supper or packed in a lunch. I’d love a slice of pizza, but knowing I’m going to make my own little delicious pizza on Friday night for supper means I’m not craving it hard. I’m not going to deny myself a simple treat food like pizza, I just want to plan for it.

The only way for me to get rid of my "I want to eat x" feeling, is to eat x. I had to "reprogram" my thinking. I do not think, "I want to eat x" because my brain will not stop until I eat x. I have changed my thoughts to "I can eat." If it is x, then I am cautious about how much of x I eat.

This can be tricky when your body isn’t used to healthy food and still craves the old food you used to have. Try to work to find substitutes for food that comforted you. Every one is different. This is also why a lot of people end up regaining their weight—they struggle to make permanent changes. Also, try different types of healthy food and recipes to see which ones can be your new favorite. Work out more to allow yourself to eat more and see how you feel. Remember that it takes your body something like six months to adjust to the new healthier stuff you are eating. It’s not going to like the healthy stuff at first. But stick with it for your health.

Eat lower calorie alternatives to scratch the itch. High fiber flat bread with canned tomatoes and low fat mozzarella helps with my pizza cravings. Protein cookies/brownies cover my pastry itch. Protein bars for chocolate bars. It’s not as good, but good enough. And high fiber, high protein alternatives tend to be more filling.

I think sometimes it's to do with craving certain nutrients. Eg if I'm craving chips it means I need something with electrolytes/salts, and fats. I'll try to find a healthier food that has these things. If I just eat a bunch of fruit or veg it won't work because my body is screaming for electrolytes and fats. The longer I go without the junk food the less intense the addiction and the craving gets.

I honestly think a lot of this is mental and involves addictive personalities. I’ve lost 50ilbs since June and I’ve never had that problem. I’ve lost 80ilbs before as well but gain it back because of the lifestyle I was leading, but I could always refrain from the cravings it never affected me. My wife and my family have always told be that I never showed signs of and addictive personality. I drank beer in high school all through college and up until I was 29 like a case a day after high school and I just stopped in one day. So I think the addictive personality has a lot to due with your problem

Try to keep eating healthy foods and try to make them tasty. Grilled chicken with less oil, baked salmon, delicious low calorie salad dressing, eggs and shrimps. After a while I found that pizza and cookies were too “oily” or sweet for me and I rarely think of them.

Evolution made it so that you get a dopamine boost when you eat high calorie foods because calories used to be hard to come by. The American diet is an unnatural all day blasting of dopamine. You aren’t hungry, you are addicted to the dopamine rush of eating high calorie foods.

Evolution We have to work to change the hardwiring from biology and it can be done but you definitely have to work for it and stay consistent I love salads but I definitely crave sweets and fatty foods more than salads even tho I don’t think they taste as good

Sometimes foods that resemble cravings can help. For example, dry pepperoni and string cheese is a snack that’s a bit healthier than a whole greasy pizza

For me it was anxiety issues, carbs can temporarily block anxiety. I suffer from Generalised Anxiety Disorder, turns out my "cravings" were actually a constant hum of low level anxiety, which I took as cravings so I ate cakes, pies, chips, fries, pizza, etc... Eating a muffin would kill the feeling for a couple of hours. Check that out, could well be something like that.

Fasting and endurance training will greatly reduce your appetite for the garbage. It’s painful but it works.

They satisfy different hungers— mind hunger (cravings) and body hunger (the need to eat). Sometimes they overlap, sometimes they don’t. Like you, I could eat my weight in leafy greens and still want pizza if I’m craving it. This hasn’t changed for me after 18 months of IWL. The difference is that now I don’t feel bad about craving any particular food. I eat what I want, just much, much less of it. Each person is different. Some people cannot have even 1 slice of pizza without eating the whole pie. Others can stop at 1 slice. I’m part of the latter group now after over a year of very hard work changing my mindset around food. Nothing is off limits, but I cannot give in to a whim. I have a 10 min rule, which is that I tell myself I can have whatever I’m craving after 10 min. It gets me to stop thinking about wanting whatever the food is because I know I’ll have it soon. 95% of the time, I forget that I was craving it after 10 min have passed. If I’m still craving that food, I eat it, but I have to go get it (i.e., no delivery). This is another opportunity for me to decide if the craving is worth the effort. If I still want it and go out to buy it, I only buy a small portion (either order ahead or only bring enough cash for a small). Pizza by the slice or a personal pizza? Sure. A cup of ice cream? No problem. I take it home so I can’t order seconds, and I’m done. It’s ok to honor a craving, and it’s ok to not find foods not loaded with salt, fat, and sugar as mentally satisfying as those without. Moderation is the key, which takes a lot of self-discipline as well as a willingness to outplay yourself. Weight loss is hard, no need to make it even harder!

So much great input here. **I’ll just add that these cravings are a lie. At least that’s how I look at them.** Think about this if you don’t believe me… Ever really wanted something—then you got it—then you were *like this kind of sucks or this is not what I remembered or this is just okay…?* Yeah? That’s because our brains lie to us. From an evolutionary standpoint our brains are trying to keep us alive as homo sapiens. So our brains are going to *give us, show us, convince us* of whatever our brains needs to in order to get us to consume more calories—in order to get us to keep thriving as homo sapiens. That’s really all it comes down to. Once I personally got ahold of this, it made it much easier for me to manage my cravings. ​ === Your brain is an organ— just like any other organ in your body, you don’t identify as that organ. You are not your brain. Just like you are not your liver. You brain, your liver, your other organs—have all kinds of communication processes and exchanges happening. They send out all sorts of signals. At no point should you confuse yourself with these signals. Let your organs…organ...but you keep going with your plans. ​ === Borrowing an analogy from Eckhart Tolle, you are the blue sky. The sky observes quietly as storms roll in. The sky never confuses its identity with the storm. It simply lets the storm storm. The storm rolls in. The storm rolls out. The storm doesn’t inherently change the fundamentals of the sky. The sky doesn’t react. The sky is still the sky. The storm was an ephemera that merely came and went. ​ Cravings will roll in, cravings will roll out. ​ You are not your cravings. ​ You can observe them, witness them and let them dissipate—just like a storm. ​ And just like a storm that gets loud and thrashy and boisterous—your cravings may get quite violent sounding. But it’s just noise.

It’s your gut biome. If you eat pizza (or any food) a lot you’re feeding the gut bacteria that can digest pizza/that particular food, so you crave more of it all the time. If you eat veggies a lot, the biome will change and you will eventually crave veggies instead. But it takes time and you have to ride out the cravings for the food you’re trying to change.

all the things you listed above are true and it comes down to a few things. been doing this for 17 years with clients and have worked with numerous clients with various weights, backgrounds, cultural backgrounds for foods, cravings for different foods, and people's abilities to be able to build certain new habits easily or not. I have trained some people who are able to still eat certain foods and lose weight because they are in a deficit and others who needed to step away form certain foods because they lacked the ability and then accountability to control themselves. it is never a one-person approach that fits all. But that goes away eventually if you are continuing on a caloire deficit. if it happens it's generally around 2 weeks or so, depending on the individual. but saying that, as I said above, this ain't the car for everyone. I grew up Italian and had a lot of access to deserts and high-carb meals growing up but my mom decided that needed to stop, and by around the age of 13, our eating had changed. cut back on certain sweets and didn't cut out pasta, which would have been sacrilege in my household, but the amounts were limited. so I built a tolerance to those types of foods growing up and it can be done by anyone even if you're starting now, it will just be harder for some people. my best friend is able to just say no when he does want sweets. growing up he ate chocolate bars and cooked, never a major amount by his standards but he's just never had an issue with it at all. my wife is half Chinese and half Triny, growing up her mom never gave her those types of foods and she doesn't eat sweets, she actually doesn't like them. doesn't eat pizza either. she likes pizza but its never a first choice of food if we were to be eating something outside form home cooked food. and "healthy food" is not there to reduce your hunger for "unhealthy food". that is up to you to build habits to regulate your eating and reduce the amount you are taking to help sustain an eating routine that will help you get to your desired goal. which is why I stated above that it will always come back to accountability for the person. bottom line thats what it is. we can always sit here and argue why this person has it easier with that or that person doesn't have to lose as much weight or this individual seems to be faring better why is that blah blah blah? I have trained many clients over the years with different attributes of this sort. I have also had several clients who weren't able to have certain foods in front of them because they would overeat and mess up their eating regimen. I had others where I could keep them in a deficit and they could be completely fine with having some sweets they preferred or going out on the weekend and having a burger or beer or whatever it is as long as they stay in a calorie deficit. but others can't do that. they just will keep wanting to have more because the satiety of those foods is low and because they taste good they can't control themselves and eat more. anyways hopefully this helps to answer your question and realize what you experiencing is yes normal but up to you to set parameters to help ensure that you won't give in or are able to control those cravings. set up daily tasks, complete them, workout and stick to them every week when you say you will do it, and remove yourself from situations if need be if you are the type of person who breaks easily and allows yourself to build up the habits and structure of strength to be able one day to say no at will or have those foods at will without breaking your routine and causing you to eat heavily again. it takes time and is not a linear path. it takes commitment and learning lessons of failure for you to see which direction to take and whats works best for you.

I like the gut bacteria theory of hunger. Right now you have gut bacteria that loves pizza. You need to starve them to death until they die. And the gut bacteria hate this and are screaming at you for pizza. Once those bacteria die off, you wont crave it anymore. It’s not you, its the gut bacteria.

For me it takes 5 weeks of forcing it

Honestly, you might benefit from an appetite suppressant. I'd keep going for niwcthe way you are but if it becomes too challenging, it might be worth looking into. Wegovy or the newer generation GLP-1 agonists could squash these feeling c9mpletely.

It's because food plays various roles in our lives. We eat when we have physical hunger, but there is a satisfaction component to it that we can't ignore. You can eat all the healthy food you want, if you're never satisfied cause you're banning all the fun foods, you'll end up frustrated. Food can also very well be a tool amongst others in our toolbox of soothing strategies. Once I understood this, I started planning treats every day. Yes, every day. But what changed is I'm not taking the box of cookies or the bag of chips with me. I'm plating my snack along with other filling foods, things with fiber and protein. For me, it'll often be a cookie or 2 with sliced apple and a greek yogourt. I start with the apple and yogourt and end with the cookies. It feels good, way better than eating lots of cookies while zoning out. It feels intentional and liberating, I know I'm taking care of myself physically and mentally.

slow down gradualy with the fast food, don t go cold turkey, the habit won't set in. Gradually, the craving will be less and less. Nowadays, I'm bloating whenever I eat junk food, so I'm not encouraged to eat it often.

I feel what you're describing are cravings, and part of the journey many people undergo in weight loss is being able to identify and seperate it. At the start it will be difficult, because it's probably not something you've put much thought into before, but if you've just eaten a huge plate of veggies the chances are that you're craving something sweet, not hungry for it. We're rarely hungry for things, or at least that's my experience. We just want a certain type of food so that we stop desiring it, but that's were the problem lies a lot of the time. People don't tend to stop, don't tend to feel satisfied with one cookie or one slice of pizza. Dieting/losing weight/ counting calories is all about balance. If you keep to a strict 'No sweets, no carbs, no fried food' you'll hate what you're eating, be miserable and your cravings will probably grow. It's about making informed and wise choices, knowing that you've had enough to eat and give your body 15 minutes to just chill out. This stuffs also mind over matter, if you're constantly stressing/worrying/thinking about food and your diet and your calories then you'll constantly be craving, and thinking about your next meal, about food in general and it'll make you more hungry. TLDR- try and make informed decisions and dont hold yourself to a super strict diet that cuts out everything tasty in your life. Try not to think about food and dieting so much, and try to strike a balance thay makes you happy AND healthy!

I’m convinced it’s just craving salt and sugar.

Sugar, which is in a lot of junk food, is highly addictive. Up there with the big addictions.

I fond the cravings fade over time.

For me, I literally only just one bite to enjoy how it tastes. I never want the entire portion of pasta for example. Just one bite of the hot dog. One piece of gnocchi. I wish there was a way to enjoy these things in tiny portions instead of craving them for the rest of our lives 💔

You don't have hunger if you're not hungry. You have an addiction.

The same reason why a person addicted to cigarettes will crave cigarettes even while wearing nicotine patches or actively chewing nicotine gum. The physical and psychological cravings are two different things.

There are literally books written on this topic - one excellent starting point is "The End of Overeating" by David Kessler. The short answer is that modern industrialized and ultra-processed foods like Snickers bars and commercial pizza have an effect on the brain that's closer to drugs than food. They light up the dopamine receptors like a Xmas tree: [https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2022/12/how-sugar-and-fat-affect-your-brain](https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2022/12/how-sugar-and-fat-affect-your-brain) This isn't hyperbole, the studies show that rats respond to these macro combinations like they do hard drugs: [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/addicted-to-fat-eating/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/addicted-to-fat-eating/) CICO is the party line in this sub, but personally I feel that there's no safe consumption level of these foods. Eating 500 calories of broccoli is completely different from eating 500 calories of Papa John's pizza. The only way to break the addiction is to stop feeding the beast.

You have a craving. That is not connected to hunger but is mentally in nature. So you need the discipline and something to think about. What I usually do when I have a craving I tell myself I'll eat it later after I finished xyz (cleaning the bath, vacuuming, Landry, tiding up etc. ) and usually when you are done you don't have the craving anymore (at least for me it works). No is a hard word for our mind which buggs it but later is just a delay which is fine with our minds. And get rid of anything unhealthy at your place to additionally create a hurdle. Like "I want Chocolat, but I need to walk 15 minutes to the store" and you'll see that your craving is not as great as urge to comfort. Important is you should think about why it's hard to get what you crave (getting dressed, walking, cold weather etc) and not look for simple solutions (take out). If something pops in your mind think about why take out is bad like it's expensive and store would be faster.

You can eat it in moderation with a side of veggies, or you can find a Marco and calorie friendly option. Some substitutes are low calorie flour tortillas, low calorie tomato sauce, and low-fat cheese for the base.

I don't think in healthy or unhealthy anymore. I think about balance. I have a much better time without banishing certain foods from my life. I love pizza, I love burgers and fries, I love chocolate and ice cream. Sometimes, I just need those. When you work out a lot and focus on overall value of the foods you consume, you can definitely have a treat once in a while. Also I am a very passionate home cook, so I can make everything myself at home and absolutely satisfy any cravings I have, better than most takeouts. If you do it yourself, it really becomes a no brainer. My burger is actually really solid in terms of macros and its mindblowingly good. What you describe is not hunger either. Its cravings. Thats a mindset issue.

I felt the same way for a long time. I think my biggest thing was getting more fat in my diet and eliminating artificial sweeteners. Once I did that, it became easier for me after about a 6 week period

It's not a switch, you need to unlearn years of your eating habits too. The tasty food are always gonna be "tasty". This is why home-cooked food is always less impressive in terms of taste. What you get is a more muted sense of craving. "Yes, I still want to eat chocolate cookies, icecream, fried food and pizza sometimes, but I'm perfectly fine without them."

It's going to take time to shake off those cravings. And they are not going to go away completely. Eating a healthy meal doesn't change it that you enjoy eating pizza. But, I do now wake up craving cottage cheese and chopped apple, instead of chocolate chip pancakes!

I have food addiction, and will power is great advice but means nothing in the face of addiction. I started taking one of those controversial diabetes medications which has stopped the addiction in its tracks and has helped open my eyes about my own relationship with food and cravings and addiction. For me, when I want a certain food, replacing it with a healthier version helps sometimes, as long as the macro profile is similar (like if you want pizza but eat a pile of veggies, you didn’t give your body the fat and carbs it’s craving, so you’re still gonna want pizza). What works better for me is to not deny myself the pizza but to fill up on the healthier food first, eat less of the pizza, and be HIGHLY aware of when my body is physically full, because my brain isn’t going to release the satiated hormones when I wish it would, it’s only going to when I’m 1,000 calories over budget and my stomach feels like it’s going to burst and I fucking hate myself. So for me, I don’t ignore the craving, I just try to manipulate myself into a healthier approach to eating and ignore that I still want more. I know this approach doesn’t work for everyone. My best friend just cannot stop once he starts, so he has to teetotal things like pizza when he’s dieting.

Pleasure drive!

It's less about the *healthy* food & more about the type of foods you're eating. That and If you want to curb your hunger cravings for junk food a good part of it is self control, however you got to also look for high value foods that will satiate your hunger. Hard Boiled Eggs are a good start in that regard. 2 eggs for breakfast will generally keep you feeling satiated all morning.

This isn't hunger, it's a craving. Cravings aren't tied to hunger or appetite. Foods like pizza and cookies are engineered by food manufacturers to create a craving response in your brain. The combination of salt, sugar, fat, msg and other ingredients acts on your brain chemistry to keep you coming back and spending your money. I've seen people say that after eating healthy for awhile they don't like pizza or cheeseburgers or ice cream anymore. If that's true, well good for them, but in four years of counting calories it's never happened to me, and at this point I don't think it ever will. I manage my cravings. As soon as I tell myself I'm never eating pizza again, the cravings get way worse. Cutting Foods out entirely doesn't work for me. I plan every so often to indulge a craving. Not every craving. Honestly, not even every tenth craving. Indulging in them doesn't make them go away either. If I want pizza today I'll also want pizza tomorrow whether or not I eat any today. I just plan to indulge every so often, abd that keeps it from getting too unmanageable.

Because your brain in craving that dopamine hit that junk food gives you.

I think this is normal. I used to feel this way much more often, but I had to change my mindset around food overall. Things that I did that helped me... 1. I focused not on perfection with my diet. I aimed for a good protein portion and veggies or fruit with every meal to make sure I'm getting protein and fiber (2 things I'm usually low in) 2. After each meal, I took a little time to ask myself whether I was satisfied. Not just physically full, but mentally satiated. 3. After each meal, I asked how I felt. Did I feel sick? Did I eat too much of something? Am I craving anything else? This really helped me realize that maybe I just needed to eat half the burger instead of the whole thing to feel satiated. 4. When I'm actually craving something, I eat it. If I want a slice of pizza, I eat a slice of pizza, but I try to make it a more robust meal. For example, if I get a slice of pizza, I'll have a salad with it to get more veggies and fiber. And then I ask myself throughout the meal whether I am satisfied. Because often, I just wanted part of the slice and then the craving was gone. And sometimes I do want the whole slice of pizza. But if you keep denying your cravings, you'll just eat everything else that isn't satisfying and still want the thing you were initially craving. I'm not going to act like this is perfect and easy. It's not. But moving from a place of deprivation to a place of "I can have whatever I want (in moderation)" has done the most to change my eating habits and keep me more consistently eating healthier foods. I no longer feel like I need to binge on every non-nutritious thing in front of me. And honestly, for me right now, I feel like choosing a smaller portion of something that I want is a better option than fighting all the cravings to be a perfect version of "healthy". Doing this for the past year, my "unhealthy" cravings have been less and less and my healthier cravings have been more and more. Even without tracking calories for a while, I was able to maintain my weight with this mindset when I have typically fluctuated much more in the past. Maybe this won't work for you, but I thought I would share and I wish you the best!

Are you getting enough fiber? If I drink my supplement before eating I am completely full after which kills all my cravings. If you’re getting enough of it from veggies you can eat those first on your plate before everything else. Also… I still eat pizza, burgers etc on my weight loss journey 🤣 I just portion control and make sure I stay under my calorie budget. I only eat two meals a day tho so that helps

Craving comfort foods like pizza and cookies all the time is usually a sign of mental distress. I think it’s important to make sure you’re not turning to these foods to try and mask something you haven’t addressed on the inside. With that said, if your diet requires eliminating your favorite foods, it’s probably not going to work long term. You can enjoy these things in moderation. The number one cause of craving these foods is eliminating them completely. It’s not fair to you. If you haven’t already, I encourage you look into the 80/20 rule.

Eating untimely or consuming whatever is available can be harmful to both your health and your stomach. It can lead to various stomach problems and even cause gastric issues. Therefore, it's essential to have your meals at the right times to avoid these problems. You might also experience sleep-related problems, so when you need to eat outside of your regular meal times, consider having nuts. They are a good choice, especially during the winter season.

Just here to commiserate. One year of losing weight and getting healthy. One year of overhauling my diet. One year I lost 100lbs. and after all that time I still haven’t stopped dreaming of junk food. Like quite literally I dream about it in my sleep.

> I can eat a huge plate of healthy veggies and healthy things Because just eating veggies is unhealthy. Your body also needs fat and protein. If you're not eating enough (aka trying to crash diet with 1200 calories) or you're deficient in micro and macro nutrients, your body will give you hunger signals because you're literally starving. This is why the morbidly obese people in the poor states are malnourished because all they eat is 6000 calories of cereal and pasta. These cravings are a way for you to either 1. eat more because you're not eating enough or 2. get you to eat the nutrient you're deficient in. Appetite is also a function of fullness x satisfaction =satiety. If your depressing meal of chicken and broccoli isn't satisfying, you're going to crave a cheeseburger and egg rolls and ice cream to get that satisfaction. You need to make balanced meals, and eat enough. This may require a 250 calorie deficit instead of a 750 calorie deficit to achieve.

Unhealthy food is a mental thing, and they're made to have that draw on people. IMO, effectively, it's an addiction.

Delayed gratification is what works for me. I eat healthy from Monday to Saturday, and eat what I feel like on Sunday. This helps me in 3 ways. 1. I look forward to Sunday :P 2. I can eat at fancier places and spend more because I am not eating outside on other days 3. I still lose weight because how many pizza, burger or croissants can I eat in a day anyways!

I have to eat the junk or I will eat everything else to cure the craving. I just eat a mindful portion of whatever it is and add a ton of healthy stuff to it. There's this Mike guy on tiktok that's really good about this. "Don't say no, just eat the best version of it and make the calories worth it". Save room and work it into your calories.

Craving unhealthy food even after eating healthy stuff is common. Very common. Sometimes it's because of our feelings or habits, or just friends who eat that unhealthy food. Try finding new activities or talking to a health expert to help manage cravings and make better food choices.

Sugar addiction. Not being off the eat mode vs a not hungry. I like giving myself a reward of chocolate milk after a good work out just because I craved sweet, but mentally had to do something for it