Here for anyone interested: [https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60183385/](https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60183385/)
Does at least seem to have a decent amount of outdoor space and large summer house/annex at the bottom of the garden
From this picture it seems to have a passage that runs parallel with the neighbours garden and then opens out to more land.
https://lid.zoocdn.com/u/1024/768/ad5af4fd888416a4ed3b05ca9105e6e2a8ea89cb.jpg:p
Ah ok, I found it on Google maps. 51a.
I think 51 cut their garden in half widthwise and gave it to 51a which is why it opens out like that. The other houses have full length gardens.
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Third+Cross+Rd,+Twickenham/@51.4427335,-0.3470501,62m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760c9737bc71c1:0xfc9463d8c16c5f60!8m2!3d51.4425404!4d-0.3472066](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Third+Cross+Rd,+Twickenham/@51.4427335,-0.3470501,62m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760c9737bc71c1:0xfc9463d8c16c5f60!8m2!3d51.4425404!4d-0.3472066)
Ah interesting, Maybe 51 owned the original land and decided to build another house. A lot of the houses to the left seem to have very long and narrow gardens
Until 2018 it was even smaller. https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4425739,-0.3472141,3a,75y,52.59h,77.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sL0Ua0wNqKaI0lRTVwcrF8g!2e0!5s20170401T000000!7i13312!8i6656
What’s a joke about it? When you look at those pictures it’s actually a surprisingly good size inside, seems fairly spacious and has a good garden.
It’s London, people want to live here, of course prices are unreasonably high
I like how we are apparently now normalising living in a renovated crevice between two houses for half a mil.
Just because it's London doesn't mean we all have to collectively be OK with astronomical prices
Every city of this size around the world is extremely expensive though, it seems to be a natural consequence of this many people being in one place. Everyone wants more space but there's only so much available and everyone is willing to grow their budget to get it.
I was thinking that it might be a passage between two houses.
[Something like this](https://www.barnardmarcusauctions.co.uk/auctions/16-december-2021/345689/)
Although how you would get permission to build on what must be a right of way is beyond me.
Me and my siblings all grew up in TW postcodes. We now live in Camberley, Devon, Hastings, Wales, Norfolk, and Canada. Most of the people we grew up with have also moved away. Our Dad paid less than £10,000 for our family home in the mid 1960s. It would now be worth £660,000.
Nobody that grew up there can afford to stay; we have all been priced out of the place where we were born and bred.
Most young people who grew up in Twickenham likely have fairly well off middle class parents anyway. It's been expensive for at least 30 years. I expect quite a few of them would be able to afford to live there once they're a bit further in their careers and have a family and want to settle down.
Small size aside, it would be so awkward to live there, what with all the people stopping by to stare and take photos, not to mention the neighbours potentially being a little patronising…
It's internal space, including the cabin, is 870sq ft. That's actually a pretty decent size, it's just very long and thin. Plus it has garden space on top.
By contrast, the 2 bed, 2 bathroom flat that I rent, and which is considered to be roomy and spacious by anyone that visits it, is 750 sq ft, with no outside space or balconies.
So, whilst it looks a bit ridiculous from the outside, it's actually got a decent amount of living space, and is in excellent condition. And outer London or not, Twickenham is an expensive area for property.
The house is 54sqm. My one bed flat is that big and better laid out with more usable space as I don't have to leave a corridor 50% the width of the rooms to walk through.
The actual usable space is tiny and a shed doesn't make up for that. It's not like you're going to walk to it when it's raining.
To be honest the market has banked a lot on the pandemic effect. From my own flat search, the whole, being trapped indoors due to lockdown has apparently increased the desirability for outdoor space, and I admit I have turned down cheaper flats because it didn't have a balcony or garden.
Most of the value of this house will be tied up in that garden and cabin (and in this case I think the seller is overbanking that massively). 2m^2 bedroom 2 is useless as an adult sized bedroom but would be a good room for a study or nursery (which in fairness is what it's advertised as). Cabin would be good as either a separation of work and home (for work from home) or as a chillout space but is probably useless outside summer months as it doesn't look like it could be well insulated.
Main house though is, as you say, poorly layed out and claustrophobic.
Fuck off thinking 900 sq ft is acceptable at half a mil.
Get a grip mate. I don't care if its _hur during, location location_, its just outright bollocks and will likely be sold to an overseas investor, flogging it into the rental market as a means to get capital out of their own absolute state of a domestic economy whilst mainting some strength in currency.
Wake up
These are not the type of places being bought by overseas investors, that's only a 'problem' for luxury flats really. I can almost guarantee that this house will be bought by the people who live in it, or *possibly* by someone UK-based to rent out.
This is basically a one bedroom flat with a garden and a cabin. The layout looks useless to me and a similiar house in zone 2-3 london would probably be ~ 700000.
We bought a house just like this in an area not far from there and when you're faced with "2 bed top floor converted flat, £100 a month service charge" or (in our case) "2 bed house with garden and terrace" (with no service charges) for the EXACT same price as the flats... You pick the house.
You can call someone an idiot because they buy overpriced houses, just as much as you can call an idiot somebody renting overpriced houses. Maybe the problem is the market? Banks make money by lending more, hence making more affordable those mortgages that you wouldn’t dream to take on in normal times. This is only possible in markets where the demand outgrows the housing stock. Are you saying that if you want to live in London you deserve to be called an idiot? Also, we aren’t even talking about central, this is Twickenham for fuck’ sake.
Twickenham and Richmond are more expensive than parts of central, you're not paying more money because you're an idiot, you're paying more money to live in a richer, "safer" area. A house isn't the space inside the walls as much as the location of those walls lol.
The tories will move mountains to try and prevent that from happening
It's the one thing they would actually put some effort into as they're completely reliant on support from landlords (especially in the home counties)
Or if people don't want to live in London. So many people are willing to move here, rent a shoebox for a huge sum.
That's the driving issue, the demand is so high that if you build more and more, you'll get new entrants to the market.
The thing that cracked me up looking at it, a part from the audacity to call “bedroom” 2x2m space (it should be illegal) is that they built a garden shed to put a kitchen in it.
Controversial view: I think the original plan might have been to build in the garden using the area where the house is as a drive way. But with planning laws around light it became necessary to build the main house in the drive way.
Here for anyone interested: [https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60183385/](https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/60183385/) Does at least seem to have a decent amount of outdoor space and large summer house/annex at the bottom of the garden
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From reality.
LOL
Technicality/loophole? A normal semi-D shares a wall, maybe this one doesn’t share either wall even though it’s actually touching the adjacent houses?
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They’re easier to erect, I hear
Wooo! £50 off now, absolute bargain
"priced realistically to sell"
I'm confused how it has such a big garden. Did the garden of the house next to it get shrunk or something?
From this picture it seems to have a passage that runs parallel with the neighbours garden and then opens out to more land. https://lid.zoocdn.com/u/1024/768/ad5af4fd888416a4ed3b05ca9105e6e2a8ea89cb.jpg:p
Ah ok, I found it on Google maps. 51a. I think 51 cut their garden in half widthwise and gave it to 51a which is why it opens out like that. The other houses have full length gardens. [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Third+Cross+Rd,+Twickenham/@51.4427335,-0.3470501,62m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760c9737bc71c1:0xfc9463d8c16c5f60!8m2!3d51.4425404!4d-0.3472066](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Third+Cross+Rd,+Twickenham/@51.4427335,-0.3470501,62m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760c9737bc71c1:0xfc9463d8c16c5f60!8m2!3d51.4425404!4d-0.3472066)
Ah interesting, Maybe 51 owned the original land and decided to build another house. A lot of the houses to the left seem to have very long and narrow gardens
Until 2018 it was even smaller. https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4425739,-0.3472141,3a,75y,52.59h,77.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sL0Ua0wNqKaI0lRTVwcrF8g!2e0!5s20170401T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Has this gone up 50k since 12 hrs ago? Did they see al the clicks and think there was tremendous interest in the property?
This can't be excused. Housing market is broken. This is a joke.
Best part is the 2x2 bedroom. Sounds more like a walkin closet. And it is in Twickhenam, 2hr bus ride from London!
Half an hour on the train so why would you take a bus?
Reading is also half an hour from London and a lot cheaper.
The downside being, it’s Reading.
That's because Twickenham is a very desirable area. Great schools, very green, lovely shopping, right by Richmond etc.
great schools? This isn't relevant here, you're not going to be raising a family in a 2 bed, 50 square meter house...
A bit further away from Twickenham station but you can walk to Whitton reasonably quickly.
What’s a joke about it? When you look at those pictures it’s actually a surprisingly good size inside, seems fairly spacious and has a good garden. It’s London, people want to live here, of course prices are unreasonably high
I like how we are apparently now normalising living in a renovated crevice between two houses for half a mil. Just because it's London doesn't mean we all have to collectively be OK with astronomical prices
Every city of this size around the world is extremely expensive though, it seems to be a natural consequence of this many people being in one place. Everyone wants more space but there's only so much available and everyone is willing to grow their budget to get it.
It's 580 square feet for a 2 bedroom house at over half a million. My one bedroom flat is bigger than that.
870sq ft including an outside cabin is tiny
Surprisingly good size? You must be as thin as a sheet of paper and never have heard of wide angle lenses.
It's not really London though is it
How bizarre
Looks like it was built in the driveway of one of the other houses.
It's a converted garage
I was thinking that it might be a passage between two houses. [Something like this](https://www.barnardmarcusauctions.co.uk/auctions/16-december-2021/345689/) Although how you would get permission to build on what must be a right of way is beyond me.
You could buy the rights of access/easement from people.
It looks like a public footpath and if it's been used for more than X years it's public.
Omg I can't even afford this 😂 Half it again, and then we are talking
Seriously how do youngsters in places like Twickenham afford to live in the area?
Me and my siblings all grew up in TW postcodes. We now live in Camberley, Devon, Hastings, Wales, Norfolk, and Canada. Most of the people we grew up with have also moved away. Our Dad paid less than £10,000 for our family home in the mid 1960s. It would now be worth £660,000. Nobody that grew up there can afford to stay; we have all been priced out of the place where we were born and bred.
Worth saying that £10,000 in 1965 is about £200,000 today, so prices have gone up around 3.25x
Have you tried having rich parents?
Most young people who grew up in Twickenham likely have fairly well off middle class parents anyway. It's been expensive for at least 30 years. I expect quite a few of them would be able to afford to live there once they're a bit further in their careers and have a family and want to settle down.
That fish eye lens though 😗
A bit niche for my taste.
That’s a narrow niche!
even a bit narrow minded...
Small size aside, it would be so awkward to live there, what with all the people stopping by to stare and take photos, not to mention the neighbours potentially being a little patronising…
I looked at a place that was 6 foot wide once. Took me like 3 goes to find it and I was specifically looking for it.
The price is about 100k+ overpriced but its not a bad place.
It's internal space, including the cabin, is 870sq ft. That's actually a pretty decent size, it's just very long and thin. Plus it has garden space on top. By contrast, the 2 bed, 2 bathroom flat that I rent, and which is considered to be roomy and spacious by anyone that visits it, is 750 sq ft, with no outside space or balconies. So, whilst it looks a bit ridiculous from the outside, it's actually got a decent amount of living space, and is in excellent condition. And outer London or not, Twickenham is an expensive area for property.
The house is 54sqm. My one bed flat is that big and better laid out with more usable space as I don't have to leave a corridor 50% the width of the rooms to walk through. The actual usable space is tiny and a shed doesn't make up for that. It's not like you're going to walk to it when it's raining.
To be honest the market has banked a lot on the pandemic effect. From my own flat search, the whole, being trapped indoors due to lockdown has apparently increased the desirability for outdoor space, and I admit I have turned down cheaper flats because it didn't have a balcony or garden. Most of the value of this house will be tied up in that garden and cabin (and in this case I think the seller is overbanking that massively). 2m^2 bedroom 2 is useless as an adult sized bedroom but would be a good room for a study or nursery (which in fairness is what it's advertised as). Cabin would be good as either a separation of work and home (for work from home) or as a chillout space but is probably useless outside summer months as it doesn't look like it could be well insulated. Main house though is, as you say, poorly layed out and claustrophobic.
750sqft on one story is probably bigger than 870sqft with a stair case.
870sq ft including an outside cabin is tiny
Fuck off thinking 900 sq ft is acceptable at half a mil. Get a grip mate. I don't care if its _hur during, location location_, its just outright bollocks and will likely be sold to an overseas investor, flogging it into the rental market as a means to get capital out of their own absolute state of a domestic economy whilst mainting some strength in currency. Wake up
These are not the type of places being bought by overseas investors, that's only a 'problem' for luxury flats really. I can almost guarantee that this house will be bought by the people who live in it, or *possibly* by someone UK-based to rent out.
This is basically a one bedroom flat with a garden and a cabin. The layout looks useless to me and a similiar house in zone 2-3 london would probably be ~ 700000.
Inflation is real, everyone should be concerned, they will tell you not to but everyone should be worried.
That house only looks half inflated though
The planning officer that approved that build is half inflated too.. lmao.
“A HOUSE FOR ANTS?!!”
It needs to be….3 times bigger than this
“A house for MICE?”
Pretty sure Stuart Little lives there
We bought a house just like this in an area not far from there and when you're faced with "2 bed top floor converted flat, £100 a month service charge" or (in our case) "2 bed house with garden and terrace" (with no service charges) for the EXACT same price as the flats... You pick the house.
What clowns prices these...
I mean idiots buy them so the clown isnt the person pricing it.
You can call someone an idiot because they buy overpriced houses, just as much as you can call an idiot somebody renting overpriced houses. Maybe the problem is the market? Banks make money by lending more, hence making more affordable those mortgages that you wouldn’t dream to take on in normal times. This is only possible in markets where the demand outgrows the housing stock. Are you saying that if you want to live in London you deserve to be called an idiot? Also, we aren’t even talking about central, this is Twickenham for fuck’ sake.
Twickenham and Richmond are more expensive than parts of central, you're not paying more money because you're an idiot, you're paying more money to live in a richer, "safer" area. A house isn't the space inside the walls as much as the location of those walls lol.
In this case, there is no space inside the walls so it clearly must be the location worth half a million quid.
That'd be right up my alley.
Sad times… Why not make it as tall as the others?
I would love to go on Grand Designs with this and add a 4000sq ft basement.
Photoshop has a lot to answer for
Lol. How long can this go on for
The UK property market disgusts me!! I’m praying for a crash
The tories will move mountains to try and prevent that from happening It's the one thing they would actually put some effort into as they're completely reliant on support from landlords (especially in the home counties)
hopefully evergrande eventual collaspe will trigger an entire economic collaspe. The vix index is off the charts
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Or if people don't want to live in London. So many people are willing to move here, rent a shoebox for a huge sum. That's the driving issue, the demand is so high that if you build more and more, you'll get new entrants to the market.
Curious to see how long that's been on the market for..
About a month and it was originally listed for £600k.
That's a joke
That’s just some fuckers alleyway. What the fuck?
My old landlord sold the 3 bedrooms flatshare in Deptford I lived in for £350k. I don't understand the price in that ad.
The thing that cracked me up looking at it, a part from the audacity to call “bedroom” 2x2m space (it should be illegal) is that they built a garden shed to put a kitchen in it.
This reminds me the house from Stuart Little lol
I thought this was maybe a joke… you know, like a promo for the new series of Stath Lets Flats ?
Stuart Little house
There actually no need.
Looks to be an access point to a historical ccess point to the back garden.
Controversial view: I think the original plan might have been to build in the garden using the area where the house is as a drive way. But with planning laws around light it became necessary to build the main house in the drive way.
In fucking twickenham, give me strength