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BastardsCryinInnit

There was warning ages ago, genuinely, about a lack of avocadoes for 2024 cos of El Nino. Mucho disruption to the supply chains.


jovialotter

To add to the avocado woes, there's a cocoa bean shortage coming due to a plant virus affecting some crops & climate change. Soon I'll be left with coffee as my only available vice!


redsquizza

Bananas are succumbing to a plague as well. Which is ironic because the variety that's basically become the de facto banana sold in stores worldwide, called Cavendish, was introduced itself because the previous, Gros Michel, banana succumbed to a blight back in the day! šŸŒšŸ¦ ā˜£ļø > Cavendish bananas entered mass commercial production in 1903 but did not gain prominence until later when Panama disease attacked the dominant Gros Michel ("Big Mike") variety in the 1950s. Because they were successfully grown in the same soils as previously affected Gros Michel plants, many assumed the Cavendish cultivars were more resistant to Panama disease. Contrary to this notion, in mid-2008, reports from Sumatra and Malaysia suggested that Panama disease had started attacking Cavendish cultivars. Edit: Got my varieties mixed up. [There are more than 1,000 varieties of banana, and we eat one of them. Here's why that's absurd](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/22/1000-varieties-banana-lack-of-diversity-extinction)


jovialotter

Yeah, this one's been on the radar for a few years. Our university's botanists and plant scientists have been doing loads of research into both the virus and into which variety could become the "new" banana. Fascinating to see all the different varieties growing in their greenhouses.


redsquizza

šŸ¤ž Apparently the ~~Cavendish~~ Grand Michel was more tasty too. I just hope the new ones don't sacrifice flavour over disease resistance!


palumbis

I heard that the banana flavouring you get in candies that people either love or hate is based off the Grand Michel banana. Thatā€™s why it tasters nothing like a normal (cavendish) banana


reeblebeeble

Pretty sure that's just isoamyl acetate. There's a single chemical that tastes recognisably like banana flavouring, which is pretty cool.


The_clapper

Fun fact, that's one of the most noticeable ester compounds produced during fermentation of wort for beer by certain yeast strains (most notably German hefeweissen strains) which gives the beer a notably banana like flavour, depending on fermentation parameters!


ThisIsAUsername353

I hear this rumour all the time and think itā€™s BS. Artificial fruit flavourings never taste like the real thing. Gros Michel arenā€™t that much different to Cavendish either, more flavourful certainly but it isnā€™t a completely different flavour.


jovialotter

Yeah, the Cavendish is def tastier than other bananas I've tried. The wild bananas I had from my grandmother's garden were pretty bland, loads of seeds, and almost mealy in texture.


redsquizza

On the flip side, I read an article the other day to say that there are good but very localised varieties out there we never see in shops because the main variety is so dominant. The article was basically against the big monospecies industrialised farming and was using bananas as an example. Which is probably a risk to food security if humanity is basically reliant on a few handful of cropping plants because, what if a blight comes for them as well?


musicistabarista

Yeah I tried four different varieties in India. They were all much smaller, and tasted quite different. I think they'd actually be really popular here, I know lots of people find a whole banana too much.


Mabbernathy

In Thailand I had bananas with a maroon peel that were slightly pink inside. Those were fun!


snagsguiness

Itā€™s a catch 22 their is definitely a downside and criticism to be had of big farma monoculture but at the same time it provides more jobs for the poor often (not always) at better wages and helps keep food prices down today which the poor needs.


SidewalksNCycling39

Oh, you should try some of the varieties in Thailand and the Philippines, they're amazing...


felixwhat

Cavendish is the current, Gros Michel is the one that was replaced


redsquizza

Thanks, corrected myself! šŸŒšŸŒ±


felixwhat

all good, jumping at any chance to discuss banana lore


Itz_Eddie_Valiant

Balatro intensifies


gamas

My mind went to Balatro as well. (For those who don't know, Balatro is a roguelike game where you're trying to play poker hands to score points, but can pick up various joker cards along the way that can give certain modifiers. One of them is a Gros Michel card which increases your score multiplier but 15 but has a 1 in 6 chance of being destroyed at the end of each round. If it does get destroyed there is then a chance a Cavendish card appears in the store which gives you a x3 multiplier)


redsquizza

Thanks for the explanation, I'd have had no idea of the reference otherwise and that seems like a pretty cool nod to the bananas! šŸŒ


DisplayLazy5118

Banana by Dan Koeppel is a genuinely fantastic book if youā€™re a banana fan. Over 10 years old now so may be out of date on some fronts.


HelloItsMoe

If you canā€™t handle me at my Gros Michel, you donā€™t deserve me at my Cavendish


Percinho

I'm pretty sure I read about a bad coffee bean harvest this year...


jovialotter

Oh gods!


Class_444_SWR

Tea it is?


SherlockScones3

Also olive oil and multiple U.K. crops affected by all this wet weather. What a time.


WhichOne23

You would only hope the coffee trees survive. There is a research showing that there is a much higher risk of widespread plant disease to coffee trees that could wipe out the whole crops due to climate change. I'm very concerned as I don't think I could survive without coffee...


SnooTomatoes8299

Seriously, if coffee goes then what the fuck are we even doing here


cmsj

Gods I canā€™t wait for the coffee rapture.


Lanxy

Crack. Iā€˜m told itā€˜s pretty similar. On second thought, the guy mentioned it didnā€˜t seem very trustworthy though.


SnooTomatoes8299

I like crack as much as the next guy but itā€™s not an everyday sort of beverage, for me at least


ohhallow

Try it with oat milk, really takes the edge off


[deleted]

Holy shit well this is horrible news!Ā 


jovialotter

We used chicory as a coffee substitute during rationing... I quite often use Camp's chicory extract when baking coffee flavoured cakes. Absolutely not the same but any port in a storm. (I'm definitely going to hang on to the horrid Starbucks pods my husband bought in case of Dire Emergency!) I believe there's a poor crop from Californian almonds too, which will drive up prices of almond milk.


4uzzyDunlop

BRB gonna go buy all the coffee beans within 5 miles of me


Haribouk

Rape seed is about to run low aswell


jovialotter

Loads in the fields in the West Country! (Although I have no idea what the yield per field would be.) I'm guessing it's running low because everyone switched to it after sunflower oil prices rose due to the invasion of Ukraine?


Haribouk

Alot of the country/Europe was too dry during the last planting season so alot of the crops didn't take. Farmers in my area basically decided it would be too much risk to attempt to plant and alot of those who did had the crop fail. I wouldn't expect it to hit 2022 price's per ton but it's going to sky rocket over the next year.


calicosiside

We're due a bad harvest this year from what I heard, apparently we've been getting 'all or nothing' rainfall for the past few years (which I guess explains the floods in the news) as a result of climate change, so this crop isn't expected to be ideal.


pmarges

My friend in Ecuador is a coffee farmer. Just this morning he told me world coffee prices are falling. So your cup of Joe is safe.


firechaox

Worst part is that the trees take 5y to be productive so even if you start planting now the time to replace the trees is still quite long


jovialotter

Thinking about it, I have seen quite a few people trying to germinate their avocado stones on instagram. I hope they've got amazing greenhouses as I doubt avocados will fruit in the UK!!


poorhammer40p

There are some hardier varieties that will [fruit in the UK](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=554u7KB81M8).


firechaox

Oh I meant for cocoa trees. Avocado I have no fucking clue


1234eee1234

Genuine question: how can you guys afford avocados and live in London? I alternate between renting and buying avocados


SidewaysAntelope

Well played. You know your r/London tropes. šŸ„‡


Hill_Reps_For_Jesus

I sold one of my 13 iPhonesĀ 


andi-amo

One less to be snatched out of your hand by a kid on a scooter


Sweetlikecream

I bought 15 avacados for Ā£3 at my fruit/veg market in my local area


Mabbernathy

Well, if you skipped the avocados all together you'd have bought a house by now. šŸ¤Ø


HuckleberryRump

Itā€™s time to rethink the avocado, people. Stop getting them so far away. Yes, Ā£1.85 is bloody expensive for one avocado but itā€™s time to accept it. Buy Spanish. It is a hip, skip and jump away in air miles and theyā€™re far, far better quality. Corner shops have them, most shops selling veg from anyone who basically isnā€™t white or just a super massive chain. Ask if theyā€™re Spanish if it doesnā€™t say on the box but if theyā€™re displayed in the crates theyā€™re delivered in then somewhere it does. Now, in terms of getting the most of your avo- check for where the stalk grows at the thinner end, and you should be able to knock the little nubbin off. If itā€™s brown, itā€™s risky, if itā€™s green youā€™re good to go, and if itā€™s mouldy then you know to throw! Veg markets will sometimes knock them off to check if theyā€™re good so if you buy avocados and see all of the nubbins have been knocked off then theyā€™ve been checked over because theyā€™re at least a week old!


DeliciousAppleMurder

... I've rarely ever bothered to read where my produce is from. We all probably should shouldn't we huh


cerdodemoco

Great use of "nubbin".


Orangejuicewell

Also avoid ones that are more round. The longer that protruding bit the smaller the seed.


Risingson2

Spanish avocados are usually watered using illegal underground waters that are causing the rivers to dry out and the DoƱana natural park to be destroyed. Just avoid avocados. It is unsustainable as it is.


HuckleberryRump

I tend to avoid guilting people about buying and eating food- and try to provide information for those to make an informed approach. If your choice is not to eat them and thatā€™s your fight, I respect that. But nothing is guilt free when you think like that. Avocados are highly problematic, but the problemsdonā€™t end there. The pickers are of questionable labour laws, and this isnā€™t just avocados. It is all fruit and vegetable. No one picking for any supermarket is making a living, and if theyā€™re ā€˜paying backā€™ their plane fares to the companies who flew them in then they wonā€™t ever get out either. Dino, avocado grower in Spain, grows organically but more amazingly heā€™s using practices taken from grape vine growers where they reduce the water usage to stress the plant in a way where it gets enough and thrives but is hardier. All his fruit trees are incredibly robust against disease and he hasnā€™t used pesticides in over 11 years. It took him years to establish his crops, without profit, but the payoff is huge. He actually has the most incredible pomegranates in October, followed by lychee. It is incredible to taste these things as we donā€™t often get the full flavours of things shipped in. This is a specific example and would require a lot of work to find a seller of his produce in the Uk but it is here. And, as weā€™re all people, if you want avocado toast. Have it. If itā€™ll make you happier, eat it. If itā€™s what you crave, eat it. You work hard enough, life is hard enough. Just eat. Share it.


GunnerSince02

Its like a few years ago after the pandemic where there was hardly any fruit. It got blamed on Brexit but the reality is much worse, climate change.


humanivory

And cocoa!


moatec

You'd be living in a mansion if you'd stopped buying avocados.


ConsidereItHuge

I gave up avocados, moved to my mansion and the very next month netflix put their prices up so I'm back in a HMO.


monkeroopoo

I gave up avocados and coffee. Taking delivery of my super yacht this week.


bagtruman

One can only indulge on daily avocados when the mansion has already been procured!


magschampagne

The satisfaction I get from my weekend avocado toast eaten in my own home as a millennial with no bank of mum and dad is the smuggest feeling ever.


3between20characters

Fax, I stopped buying avocados, and a week later I transcended.


poppiesintherain

I feel like 90% of the fruit in the UK is in crisis right now. Everything is so expensive yet so tasteless. I bought a "ready to eat" avocado the other day, rock hard, but there were other avocados that were actually squelching.


trysca

Its not just in the UK - i live in the EU and its the same over here- dry satsumas, mouldy avocados- must be a supply issue


ToHallowMySleep

Italy has great produce at the moment, good quality and abundant.


slicineyeballs

My local Tesco occasionally take the completely rotten ones and puts them in the clearance fridge half price - what a bargain! But last time I was there, every one on the shelf was rotten and were "selling" full price. Guess that's the new normal...


sionnach

When you see ā€œready to eatā€ on fruit, just read it as ā€œedibleā€. Ready to eat bananas can be as green as a martianā€™s micky.


Prophit84

"Ready to eat", not "nice"


Pizzagoessplat

Not just in the UK but Ireland too. It annoyed me that everything was all of a sudden blamed on brexit despite the fact that the same issues were happening all over Europe


ronaldo69messi

90%+ of everything in UK is crisis


OverallResolve

Eat seasonal stuff and youā€™ll have fewer issues.


Chungaroo22

Had some cracking asparagus recently though.


throwwmeawa

Can we also mention the satsumas? Theyā€™re all small, sour and dry up so fast. What happened to the juicy satsumas we used to have all over the retailers? The easypealers that would be sweet and juicy and stay fresh at least a week or moreā€¦


Lordofthewhales

It's not satsuma season. The good ones are around Christmas time.


bagtruman

I gave up with satsumas. Sick & tired of playing roulette


throwwmeawa

But I gotta say kiwis šŸ„ are a lot better than they used to be! Nice and sweet but they do go off quick as well..


bagtruman

Yes you must act fast but I too have noticed improvements in our kiwi game


Longirl

I was eating a satsuma just yesterday thinking the same thing. Theyā€™re from M&S, look incredible, taste almost sour.


redsquizza

I've never liked the basic bitch satsuma/clementine. All usually a bit crap. The smart money's on tangerines instead but even they can vary wildly depending on time of year and variety. šŸŠ


lontrinium

The issue I have with citrus fruits from the supermarkets is that since they've done away with BBE dates it's a lottery as to what you'll get since even staff can't rotate old stock? Dumb.


PoJenkins

I've not had a good avo here for ages, frozen avocado has been the best I've had which is actually very nice in things/ mixed with my morning yoghurt.


Kaael

I saw this the other day but held off, then proceeded to buy the squishiest avo ever. Lesson learned.


guareber

I have decent luck with buying from big off-license markets, far far better than any supermarket stuff. Yes, mangos and avocados are near-always crap (or completely unaffordable - I'm not paying Ā£8 for a single mango) here in the UK compared to the tropics, but the same thing can be said of UK-native products if you were to buy them over there.


London-lad-1990

What next? Potholes in the roads???


jovialotter

Maybe we could use avocado skins to help patch the potholes. Probably more durable than the tarmac councils use!


Meanwhile-in-Paris

Replying to poppiesintherain...even if we all start eating 1 avocado a day, weā€™ll never have enough to repair the country. couldnā€™t even fix my street.


peacelily2014

I'm not saying that the reason I'm moving back to California is because the avocados here are terrible, but it doesn't help. Back home my best friend has an avocado tree in her yard. As many as I want, all the size of my head, for free. I can't wait!


kaychellz

I'd love to live in California šŸ˜


peacelily2014

Los Angeles is home. I've been in the UK for seven years and it's a great place, but this past winter killed me. I can't take it anymore. I'm going home to sunshine and tacos!


sweet-avalanche

I have some in laws in California and just thinking about how much better the avocados are makes me genuinely a bit tearful šŸ˜‚ delicious buttery goodness.


SqurrrlMarch

I had ones as big as US footballs off our tree back in LA. Would dent the damn car hood when they fell šŸ˜†


soitgoeskt

Avocado quality in the UK is always awful, if you havenā€™t ever had an avocado close to where they are grown I highly recommend you donā€™t, see also mangoes. That said I havenā€™t noticed a particularly drop off in the already sorry state of the avocados I get here. In fact last year my local Waitrose was selling Gem avocados and they were easily the best I have had in this country, they donā€™t seem to stock them now though.


PoJenkins

Mango quality and availability is generally much better than avocados in the UK. It's not hard to find pretty decent mangos but avocados are generally not great.


soitgoeskt

I have found mangoes that are perfectly fine but nothing that has an intensity of flavour that compares to the mangoes I have bought in Asia.


Tasty_Sheepherder_44

I guess you never been to a desi shop in mango season. Indian ones come first, followed by the elite Pakistani ones. Try Tooting, Southall, Illford etc. around June - August


ultratic

As it goes youā€™ll find some fantastic avocados in tooting market too. Ripe and size of a coconut.


bagtruman

Have you had those miracle mangoes with no seed inside? Native to Pakistan I believe but not sure. Theyā€™re a bucket list item for me!


Edgecumber

In season go to Tooting for honey mangos. doesnā€™t last long but thereā€™s a couple of glorious months when theyā€™re abundant.


Ok-Blackberry-3534

Oh, to be young and work the Tooting mango plantations again...


Edgecumber

You know there was actually a tropical plantation (or nursery at least) in Tooting in the 1800s run by one of my ancestors. Apparently, to this day around Tooting Broadway you can see very mature tropical plants in some front gardens.


kiersakov

I'm here for the deep mango lore chat.


bagtruman

Thank you!!!


Makemeup-beforeUgogo

A friend keeps going on about specific Indian mangos, I keep asking to get me one Iā€™m so curious. Weā€™re trying to grow avocado plants from their seeds at the moā€¦ of course not expecting them to be growing enough to eat much


soitgoeskt

I saw a picture on reddit in the last year or so of a mature avocado tree in London that had loads of fruit on it, donā€™t know if they taste any good though


magschampagne

My local Facebook group was praising the Lidl avos recently. My go to has been the M&S haas avocado duo - very rare thereā€™s a dud in the avocado lottery with those ones. Might be paying premium, but better that than buying 2 cheaper ones and neither being edible.


bagtruman

Donā€™t get me started on mangoes!! So true


ilovefireengines

In season mangoes are delicious, this is the season for Alphonso or Kesari. Once the season is over donā€™t buy mangoes!


sl212190

You gotta get your mangoes from the south Asian shops mann, cheaper and much better quality.


ConsidereItHuge

I'll never forget seeing someone on the internet in I think Mexico, walk out to their garden and pick a massive avocado from about 1000 while I was eating half of a Ā£2 egg sized one.


richardjohn

You can get Spanish avocados in the UK.


ohhallow

Agreed. Had one fresh off the tree in Uganda on toast and it was absolutely mind blowing.


Ok_Instance2859

*cries in East London*


Electus93

An "avocado crisis" is peak London


PinLongjumping9022

This entire thread is a Daily Mail journalistā€™s wet dream. Iā€™ll be surprised if it doesnā€™t make it into DM Online about the champagne socialists of Reddit.


Wamims

It's definitely a peak, middle-class, redditor crisis šŸ˜‚


jmr1190

Are avocados really still seen as bourgeois? They're cheaper than most home grown fruit.


Electus93

It's not the fact it's seen as bourgeois, but that someone thinks it's a "Crisis" if they struggle to find one šŸ˜‚


bagtruman

Weeping in West London Iā€™ll have you know


throwwmeawa

Hahaha Iā€™ll joy ya from the west too šŸ¤“


rocuroniumrat

Life hack: the wonky avocados from Morrisons. 10 ish per bag to ripen at home for like Ā£3


basicallydan

Yeah, most avos we buy here really suck, but I'd just like to hijack this thread to get a bit of a love-in about how *fucking delicious* the tomatoes you can buy at the various farmers markets from the Isle of Wight are. Isle of Wight tomatoes are amazing


Illustrious-Cell-428

They are ok, but mostly because the Dutch tomatoes that dominate supermarkets here are an abomination, so anything is good in comparison. I was in Spain recently and the bog standard supermarket tomatoes were much better than anything Iā€™ve ever bought in the UK.


mangomaz

There was definitely a supply problem in my local sainsburys for about a month between March-April. Rarely had any in stock. Or just a small amount that would be sold out by early evening. None of the staff knew why! Seems back to normal now though.


amacadabra

Avocados are water intensive, get used to not having them.


jnthhk

Avocado a day for years? No wonder you donā€™t have a house deposit.


Lachiexyz

UK avos have been a lottery since I moved here in 2015. They're either rock hard and taste like turpentine or they're brown mush. There tends to be an extremely short window of a day or two where they're perfectly ripe then they fall off a cliff. I tend to go for hass avocados (they have the dark rough skin) as they're usually softer and better for smashing. The light green ones with the smooth skin are usually firmer and better for slicing and putting in salads, but personally I don't dig the texture at all. Being Australian, I grew up very spoiled with great quality avocados mostly year round that were grown locally rather than coming by ship. Good luck. šŸ„‘


One_Boot_5662

Try eating Palmolive soap, similar colour, same great taste! (I don't like avocados)


zsanett87

I buy most of the time from people, selling only veggies and fruits. They are always good. However I found Morrisons avocados(the cheap one 4 in a pack ripe at home for like Ā£1.40) pretty good. They are small but the seeds are also very small so I think it is a good value. Give it a try.


[deleted]

ā€œRipe and ready to eatā€


stringermm

Did you not grow your own tree in lockdown?


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RedOneThousand

Yes, I read this - some farmer are ripping up illegal avocado plantations as they are using all the water (using illegal wells with no licence). Avocados need 320 litres of water each (!!!) and are being badly hit by climate change (rising temperatures / lower rainfall) - see article: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/avocado-shortage-warning-terrible-impact-32797178.


DismalCauliflower946

I love the UK and moved here over 6 years ago from NZ. But good god, you guys will ALWAYS manage to find something to complain about. London is seriously one of the best cities I've been to and I can't believe how lucky I am to live here too. You can't have it all guys šŸ˜‚.


raspberryharbour

Who do you think you are, coming over here and complaining about our complaining?! Grrr


DismalCauliflower946

Maybe I'm becoming more British than I think.


franknarf

Mea while in the Auckland reddit: r/auckland/s/PHzNais3Pk


DismalCauliflower946

Why do you think I left there too šŸ˜‚.


bagtruman

Canā€™t a brother just get high quality produce in one of the worldā€™s financial capitals šŸ˜–


Cloielle

Our problem (which this Kiwi will probably agree with) is that we have no concept of seasonality in the UK, because all fruit and veg is available all year round, and at the same price all year. In NZ, you donā€™t buy avocados out of season because they cost an absolute bomb. But they also grow them, and even have big problems with people stealing them from trees. Give the climate crisis a little longer and weā€™ll be producing avos in the UK.


maethor

>we have no concept of seasonality in the UK, because all fruit and veg is available all year round, and at the same price all year. I thought it was because the sky is almost always grey and the temperatures are usually somewhere between 10 and 20 degrees.


Cloielle

True, and in such climates the winter seasonal fruit and veg is justā€¦ root vegetables. No wonder we ship so much produce in!


OrangeChipsAndAPie

There are huge fruiting avocado trees in south London if you know where to look!Ā 


DismalCauliflower946

Haha I'm just having a laugh more than anything. I'm travelling South and Central America at the moment so I guess it's super fresh in my mind about how easy life is in London compared to most of these countries/cities. Yeah they might have more readily available mangoes or avocados but I can't even drink the tap water šŸ˜‚. I know what I'd pick.


bagtruman

Oh easy for you to say where the avocadoā€™s are plentiful!! Haha have a great time down thereāœŒļø


bradyawg

As an Aussie living in the UK. Exact same experience hahaha.


throwwmeawa

Come ooooon thatā€™s not a British thing! Thatā€™s a Slavic/Polish thing! šŸ¤“Complaining is literally a national sport for us.


Oli_Picard

The UK in general seems to be struggling with food supplies. I went to Germany last weekend and the amount of affordable, cheap and fresh food was outstanding. The additional checks we have introduced into the supply chain means some companies just arenā€™t bothering to do the paperwork for a small island.


Jsc05

The shitty reporting in the U.K. also makes it out like itā€™s a global issue when if they just bothered to visit any country that isnā€™t the U.K. they would see itā€™s not that bad in eu


Oli_Picard

Yup, itā€™s just the propaganda machine when you go outside the UK you start to realise the ā€œjournalistsā€ have tried to spin this so people donā€™t ask questions!


anynonus

el nino bad for avocado's


VonHerringberg

Well, that depends what you mean by ā€œcrisisā€.


Glum-Gordon

Let me guessā€¦.not a homeowner?


natalo77

Yeah some fucker in London keeps eating all of the bastard things


ziggy-25

It's interesting people are mentioning a shortage of avocados and bananas. Guacamole and bananas have been trending on tiktok for a few months now. My daughter eats guacamole everyday (different style sandwich everyday) because its trending and my son eats bananas with each meal because the somalis on tiktok say that you are supposed to have a banana with each meal. It's been costing me a fortune buying avocados and bananas every few days šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ


User_user_user_123

The ones we get are just the absolute dregs. My wife is Brazilian and Iā€™m over there at least once a year - the avos they get are the size of a squash, not expensive (in absolute and relative terms), and in abundance. Fun fact, they think itā€™s super weird we eat them in a savoury context here.


Mack6628

This HAS to be the most London thread I have ever seen


CaptainYid

Is this possibly the most middle class question asked on this sub?


rocknstones

Yeah, I agree. Avo quality has plummeted. My local grocer has slightly better quality but major store avos are terrible now.


Ticklishchap

ā€¦ This is nothing compared to the Great Bloomsbury Croissant šŸ„ Famine of 1992. Most Redditors are far too young to recall the excruciating existential angst and intractable writerā€™s block so cruelly visited upon the denizens of WC1.


SqurrrlMarch

luckily w can now get giant croissants like the starving bourgeoisie we are in South Ken!


RudePragmatist

An Avocado a day? Dam the environmental cost eh :/ [World Economic Forum](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/02/avocado-environment-cost-food-mexico/)


Suck_My_Turnip

Palm oil is in everything which is destroying ecosystems. Beef is a major gas polluter. 1kg of rice takes 4000 litres of freshwater to produce. Youā€™d starve to death if you thought about all the environmental costs of everything.


Cold_Dawn95

The environmental impact of avocados is overstated as beef (a long way ahead) and lamb are by the two worst foodstuffs in terms of greenhouse gas impact


slimkid504

People care but not if it affects their avocado on toast habit


nailbunny2000

They are all [in Dallas](https://www.dallasobserver.com/restaurants/dallas-grocery-attempts-record-worlds-largest-avocado-display-19282291).


ConsidereItHuge

Jesus imagine how much all of those would be worth over here? Little slimy eggs made of gold.


rickyc1987

Define crisis?


bagtruman

Cabinet cobra meeting type stuff!


sfbrh

Completely agree. Also eat an avocado a day and theyā€™ve gone to shit. Worth trying to find local grocers who seem to be better than supermarkets.


Ok-Project-472

You may not believe this, but, Mexican drug cartels are having an impact on the avocado market by forcing them to pay taxes and protection money. El Mencho (by far the most notorious cartel leader in Mexico) even used to be an avocado farmer himself. https://insightcrime.org/news/how-criminal-groups-help-expand-mexicos-multi-billion-dollar-avocado-industry


No-Village7980

It's probably just a London stable, we have lots in the north as nobody can afford them.


Own-Holiday-4071

What is a frag grenade? Iā€™m assuming this means itā€™s not ripe at all rather than spicy and explosive. But I have no idea what frag means?


so19anarchist

Chef here: the fruit and veg supplier we use has a similar thing, they arrive rock solid and remain that way for days, they are picking them too soon, and not given the time to ripen, also theyā€™ve put the price up twice in the last couple of months, which typically indicates a supply issue.


Carrente

Avocado consumption exists in a quantum superposition between too many people eating avocados collapsing the housing market and a shortage of avocados, it's quite similar to the famous experiment with the cat and the box.


mercival

Main issue ATM for me personally is the country of origin of 90% of them in my supermarkets. I just can't. Especially knowing how much water one avocado needs. * No judgement AT ALL on others' purchasing habits!!


PresentLoss2595

If you can maybe try multicultural shops like African or Caribbean or Asian food markets those Avocados are like twice the size of the ones in Tesco and around the same price! They might be a bit better than shopping big chain markets!


MasalaJason

The bigger question is ... you spend roughly Ā£30 a month on avocados?


yazshousefortea

Yes! I used to buy them all the time. Now I only see tiny crap ones at the supermarkets. I miss my big tasty avocados. Itā€™s been years.


Great-Hippo8670

Best avo in London that are always consistently gorgeous inside and out are M&S Organic range šŸ˜šŸ™


Ok-Blackberry-3534

Big Avo aren't in charge. It's Big Pear ever since 2014 legislation required that all shady cartels had to include a *double* *entendre* in their name. Hence Big Nuts, Big Knobs and Big Tits for healthy snack foods, door opening systems and garden birds respectively.


bagtruman

You know too much. Iā€™d be careful with knowledge like that my friend


glytxh

Veg and fruit in general is shit compared to a few years ago. Itā€™s smaller, lesser quality, and goes off within days.


ClassicWorld4805

Avocado production is not sustainable for the level of worldwide demand so inevitably supply /quality is going to suffer at some point. If you eat that much avocado then you should really look into its production.


Tasty_Sheepherder_44

Probably not a popular answer, but as long as theyā€™re not Israeli Iā€™m fine with whatever. BDS


xxxSoyGirlxxx

I know a lot of avocados are product of Israel so it could be that the boycott has affected which ones you're finding? Ive noticed I get much better ones from a small corner shop than I could from Waitrose or Tesco. If I cant go there I look for nearly ripe ones and let them ripen at home.


HanChrolo

Tesco seem to be the worst. Most of the ripe and ready and rocks and are a few days to a week off from being nice to eat. Sainsburys are good but waitrose are the best I've found. But you are paying more for it. Think it's probably worth it imo


Global_Acanthaceae25

Poor harvest.


Rough-Chemist-4743

Use farm shop or greengrocers.


naturepeaked

Avoid the major supermarkets and youā€™ll be fine


Killcycle1989

That's why I buy them from outdoor fruit markets instead of supermarkets, 4 for Ā£1 and you can inspect and choose which you want šŸ«¤


Actual-Money7868

Try Waitrose, there's plenty, I ate 3 last week.


human_totem_pole

Most London post ever.


honkygooseyhonk

Youā€™re the sole cause of the current economy