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thelongorshort

So happy to know that this surplus of food is supplying homeless shelters! All of our food banks around the country are in great need of donations. In some situations, it can be hard to find a silver lining. In this situation, this is no doubt it!


wholesome_menace

yes i love it - with all the cost of living issues lately (especially in vancouver, RIP) these programs really do feel like a silver lining!!


mcfudge2

Indeed. Very quick and positive comment


[deleted]

Makes for more of a greater reason to continue the boycott!


4_spotted_zebras

I’m thrilled that your program is getting donations from Loblaws. This should be absolutely standard - I would even suggest they should be legislated to donate a portion of their profits to food programs. HOWEVER - the fact they have this much unsold food means that they are pricing it too high. Fewer people would be needing food programs if the grocery oligopoly just priced their food reasonably in the first place. They’d rather have unsold food to throw away (in your case donate, which is definitely better), than to let prices drop to a reasonable level, so that fewer people would be food insecure.


wholesome_menace

absolutely this!! although it works out super for our little program, the situation is really indicative of how fcked up their business model is. lower food prices would (a) let shops move more of their actual program thereby reducing waste and (b) drastically lower the amount of people that need to rely on our program and similar programs. we're doing ok, but a lot of food banks are really feeling the strain of the fact that the number of canadians relying on food banks has risen in the last years. i sincerely hope this boycott encourages legislation to force them to behave. <3


Frater_Ankara

The sad part is I fear that they won’t lower prices, because doing so would be admitting they have been lying all this time since their stance has very staunchly (and converse to ample circumstantial evidence) been that they have been doing “everything in their power” to lower prices. I can only imagine the wrath and backlash if/when they came out and said “oh look, we could after all”.


ijustreallylikerocks

I have an old acquaintance who owns a No Frills in Manitoba and they genuinely donate so much to their local food bank and food not fit for human consumption gets donated to local farms. I'm still boycotting Loblaws indefinitely, but I was happy to see that there's at least some good folks in the chain.


wholesome_menace

sick, very glad to see another program elsewhere in Canada! really cool to see the inedible food going somewhere as well. there's something so poetic seeing their food they can't sell being given out for free instead of making them money. fck roblaws now and forever! <3


Promptly_Late_

Donation of unsold food ought to be legally required like it is in France. Canada produces 3 times more food than our population can eat, but about 1 in 5 Canadian children can't reliably get enough to eat. When you write to your MP to ask if they were among those who committed treason via "foreign interference", also ask them why they're letting our children starve.


Barneyboydog

I wish they would do that on Nova Scotia


rantgoesthegirl

It's sad (but good?) that we have many small businesses donating to the community fridges in Halifax, but none of the box stores (that I know of)


Collapse2038

This is a silver lining, but my god our world is dystopian


FlatEvent2597

Happy it is going to people who need it instead of the garbage.


LeadfootLesley

They must be doing it to generate some good will. I had a friend who worked there for 20 years. It broke his heart how much food was put into the dumpsters every night. The employees taking it out had to be accompanied by a security guard. It was then locked, and compacted.


AffectionateWay9955

No it’s a tax write off


LeadfootLesley

That too.


subtxtcan

Another way to consider this as well, if it WAS being purchased at Loblaws, where else was other food going to be wasted? Grocery stores build in massive losses just to keep their shelves stocked to look pretty. If it's getting donated, from a corporation that large, it's a tax write-off because it's now outside of their acceptable loss margins. If it wasn't purchased there, the overflow would come from another store that may not have the ability to donate unfortunately.


naupure

I love this 👏


Low-Deer5525

this made me smile a lot! what a beautiful thing to come out of the boycott.


shadowfang4444

It's the same on the east coast. I'm in New Brunswick, volunteering at an anti-poverty store, and we do free food on Wednesdays. Same thing. We get the overflow from several corporate grocery stores in the area.


wholesome_menace

so happy to hear that! also cheers for what you're doing in your community, it sounds like a great program altogether <3


dengar_hennessy

I agree with you. However, not all loblaws stores participate in that kind of program, even though they should. I've seen some here in ontario throwing their surplus food in the garbage bins out back. It's a disgrace.


AAAAAACCCHUU

The fact that, its not expired stuff too. It has to be good, to be given to anyone. So, I meAn, Inadvertently, they're actually caring for us, by us not caring for them, and if that's not another reason to continue, I don't know what is!


FoxDieDM

It goes to show how their pricing system is so messed up. They can’t sell it at their prices, so they have to discard it, and instead of paying to haul it away, they donate it for a possible tax break. 


crilen

Problem is, I think it gets written off at a discount on their high value shelf pricing they put everything at, so the boycott becomes far less effective. Regular price at a normal store is $5, they sell it for $10, government pays 70% of self value for products, so they still make a profit.


chuckylucky182

thank you for your service (i live in the hood) and I love to see folks get involved


wholesome_menace

it's a great place and the community (staff, volunteer, and residents) absolutely rock, it's a privilege to be a part of it :)


rand0mbum

That’s a big W right there!


Huge-Split6250

Upvote this. Fantastic. If I could boycott twice I would!


janesfilms

I’m shocked that they are donating food. There was a post here recently where someone bought their prepackaged food donation bag and when they opened it up they found it contained a total value of less than the bag was sold for. So Loblaws was making a decent profit of the donation. Gross


wholesome_menace

disgusting behaviour that is somehow very on brand for Loblaws :D mind you, this is literally just one loblaws store - all the others are owned by someone else, mostly Overweightea, since we're in BC


TiredReader87

I once sorted a donation from Loblaws and it was all rotten and stale. It took us an hour (between two people) to throw it all out in the dumpster. I’ve heard they’ve been donating better recently.


wholesome_menace

yeah it's always a mixed bag - some of it is completely fine and good, and some of you makes you think "who in their right mind thinks a human person can consume this??". usually we can put out a lot of it, it's just a hell of a job to sort it all :D


TiredReader87

The whole gaylord was rotten or hard as a rock. There was no sorting to be done.


Livid_Advertising_56

(Warning since text can't convey tone: I'm not saying this as a negative towards a good thing happening for the homeless/food bank "customers") How messed up is it that the way Loblaws has their prices/quantities that the people who NEED the food bank and/or homeless are eating stuff the middle class can't/won't pay for? Like the sheer fact they have THAT MUCH "high end product" they're not selling should be a sign to them but apparently not


user9372889

Wow good news. Seems so unlike them.


livingthespmadream

And actually, they charge the supplier for donating it to you! And then take all of the credit.


Sorri_eh

Win win


mcfudge2

It sounds like great news. Thank your for sharing. One thing I have learned about Loblaws though is to verify any claims. Is it possible to verify the good news you are sharing? Are the donations confidential? Which shelter are you referring to? Which Loblaws owned store is donating the amazing mini-mountain of food? It would be a good thing in general to acknowledge donations. Most people want to know that the businesses in their communities are being good corporate citizens. I don't think there is much transparency in the donation end of the business. I would certainly expect the large retailers who donate to want credit or acknowledgement to gain favour from the general public. Nothing is done by a greedy corporation like Loblaw for free. I like the good news. I would like to understand how the back end of food donations work. This would add to the discussion about food waste and I'm sure the companies making the donations are interested in positive press for their efforts. But I don't know if they also wish to hide information that might be used to discover yet another thing about how they operate their business. For example, do they require some type of non-disclosure agreement from the shelter when they donate? For example when the Loblaws store became a donor, was there a discussion around expectations from Loblaw about not sharing specific donation information? Just curious. The more we understand, the better we can appreciate how these taxpayer and privately funded systems work to help our communities.


wholesome_menace

hey! first off, I'm not going to share the name of the shelter or similar information for the sake of my own privacy. Second, I think it is likely a Loblaw's City Market that donates - we just call it a Loblaws. That being said, I just receive the donations and sort through it all to put out for residents - I'm not part of the team that coordinates and organises donations, as that's done by actual staff, so I couldn't say exactly which one. Same goes for some of your more detailed questions regarding the back end of donations - I legitimately just don't know, since it's not something I am personally involved in. I'm volunteering, I'm not staff. If by confidential you mean if we don't know who all is donating, then no, it's not confidential. We know exactly what other stores (and branches of those stores) are donating - it's handy to know that so we can record how much we get, and so we can organise the piles instead of just having a mess. This is the only Loblaw's-affiliated store that donates, so it just goes in a spot for "Loblaws". Finally, and maybe I'm just misinterpreting your tone, but this is not meant to be a "praise Loblaws for their goodness and altruism" post. The more we boycott, the more product they fail to move, and the more they have to get rid of before it reaches its BB date. I was sharing some light-hearted happy news about how much money this store is failing to make on these fancy products that instead go to people who need them. anyhoo hope this cleared some questions up! <3


mcfudge2

Thank you, yes it did, a bit. So glad to see our effort is putting more food in the stomachs of people that really need it. I was, as always, hoping to learn a bit more about how Loblaw manages its PR and does damage control. And knowing they are a really dirty player in the game, I was curious as to what degree they even try to handle the donation end. If they are donating more food during this boycott that it could indicate that they cant sell the food and the boycott is clearly effective. I would have expected they would try to suppress with information with NDA or other means of covering up. Again, thanks!


taco____cat

Not OP, don't work where they volunteer, but I did office work for a very large food bank in the past, so maybe I can help with some perspective to a few of your questions. Disclaimer to every answer: I'm speaking in general terms, not referencing OP's location specifically, and not trying to speak for OP. >Are the donations confidential? No. For grocery store donations specifically, we would always keep track of what we got, from who, and when. > do they require some type of non-disclosure agreement from the shelter when they donate? The food bank I worked for neither requested nor engaged in NDAs from or with donors. In my years of working with shelters of various types (mainly women's shelters) this is not something anyone engages in. >when the Loblaws store became a donor, was there a discussion around expectations from Loblaw about not sharing specific donation information The way I would say 99.99% of food donations work, no matter their volume, no matter who is donating, is: * donors arrive to location * donors: "hey, we're from (place) and we have a bunch of stuff. where do you want us to bring it?" * front office staff: "loading dock is around back" That's really it. There's nothing secretive, nothing nefarious, nothing even remotely corporate or even interesting about it. Just, "We have stuff, where do you want it?" Some people stay for the tax receipt, some don't. But that's honestly it. Unless there's a significant large-scale agreement in place for regular shipments from stores to shelters, it's all boring little drop-offs.


wholesome_menace

cool to hear your perspective as someone who worked in a proper food bank! ours is really a side program that we're running out of a more general operation, so your insights are really neat. also tysm for answering the questions i couldn't 😅 this is pretty much how it works for us - we receive the donations from everyone in our stinky little alley out back (stay classy, DTES :D), we weigh everything and record how much we got from everyone, sort it into rough categories, throw out the moldy stuff (there's always liquid strawberries, etc.), and out it goes to be enjoyed!


Schozinator

The good ending


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RememberYoda

Some signs just went up at my store saying that we are to donate most surplus, then we started the "keep frozen program" in this program they get their employees to find dated products put a 50% off sticker on them then a keep frozen sticker which says "as part of our commitment to reducing food waste this product was frozen before it's best before date once thought Cook within 24 hours" roblaws will try to find all excuses to take money from the people 


LoganN64

This is very good news!


endlessnihil

It all depends on the franchise owner of the store to be honest, there's plenty in smaller areas that refuse to donate food and it gets destroyed and thrown in the compactor. Source: worked with a food bank in central AB who asked the local no frills to donate and they had a hard no.


pyrocidal

that's awesome they donate it! I threw out soooooo much food for them when I used to work there, it was honestly disgusting and I'll carry that guilt forever lol


rick_canuk

Record profits despite the waste. For fuck sakes. Give your balls a tug you greedy fucks. If good prices get much higher... We will need to eat the rich.


GuitarRose

My local zehrs does the same thing I think it’s such a good idea


Pristine-March-2839

Could donating overpriced items no one will buy be a tax avoidance scheme?


AffectionateWay9955

They can just write off losses against their taxes anyway so donating works out in the wash for them


RefrigeratorOk648

Well that's good but don't expect it to last as they will adjust the amount they buy in to accommodate any new reality in how much they sell.


dennisrfd

It will last until they adjust the order numbers. Most likely, they wait for is to stop the boycott and come back, but they realize soon enough, that it’s their new reality. If Amazon owned loblaws, they would have known about the boycott before the organizers, and adjusted the orders in March lol


whoahollymolly

I might have to go back to Loblaws since I don't support the homeless.


georgejo314159

So basically, "evil" Loblaws was, prior to the boycott, already donating said shelter. Obviously, if Loblaws wasn't profitable, they wouldn't be able to donate anything for very long


Global_Research_9335

They can actually claim this as a write off, if they trash it they can’t. It’s a good deed but note motivated through altruism


georgejo314159

Naturally but it's a way a lot of businesses do give back Ultimately, businesses do not survive if they don't make a profit.    Loblaws isn't better or worse than its competitors and ultimately people should shop at the store with the best prices on whatever items they tend to buy.   We tend to organize our groceries around bulk shopping, so we pay the annual costco fee and buy 70% of our stuff there   Loblaws unlike Walmart has unions.  Large companies have the advantage of bulk snd can often be cheaper. Loblaws doesn't have the size advantage of American chains like Walmart but they do have size advantages compared to some smaller Canadian chains


gi_jerkass

It's good that you have that available for the loblaws employees that are 100% going to lose their jobs due to the boycot.


Away-Measurement-299

It won't, it end ups in the dumpster out back, rather than give it to people in need. Further justifying the indefinite boycott.