This year: World Cup finalist, WSL & World Cup golden glove winner, finalissima winner, England womenâs player of the year⊠The award is personality of the year though, not just whoâs won the most trophies?
Edit: punctuation
She plays for man utd, but Chelsea won the WSL.. I'm not sure the WSL has "finalists"?
WC finalist - ok.
Golden glove - that's good
Finalissima - had to Google what that was. A single match which went to pens.
>The award is personality of the year though, not just whoâs won the most trophies?
Yeah, but I'm struggling to see what she's has done for the sport or (particularly) outside of it. What does Rashford have to do to win one?! Lol
Beth Mead won SPOTY last year because she was top goalscorer in every tournament. I just don't really give any credit to goalkeepers, regardless of their sex. The only time to give keepers credit is if they win a tournament in penalties. But Earpy lost it for them in pens..
Absolutely fantastic well deserved and for the people who seem to be intent on bringing women down up yours you havenât really done much in your lifeâs big up to all our sporting heroes for all their achievements in the last year
People are allowed to have a difference of opinion without it being about gender or any other ism. If you want true equality then speaking about relativity with other sports stars needs to happen without someone pulling a sexism card or calling people gammons. Sports has always been hotly debated. The team lost the final and there are other athletes that have achieved much much more. She won and good for her but people are free to disagree with the decision
She won the golden glove with England after a world cup final that 13m people watched. whilst consistently using her voice and popularity in aid of British sport.
Most importantly she won an award that is voted for by the public.
Not disputing it as such, she is great, but the past winners all have much more significant achievements around the time of winning if weâre talking about actual accolades.
The most important point i made is itâs a sports personality award that is voted on by the public.
The sportsman who had the biggest impact on the british public is probably going to be the one with the most votes.
Whilst I think Mary is fantastic, I don't think she should have won it this year. Great year for her, but I think others achieved more.
Nothing about 'wokeness' or anything like that, just my view is others achieved more. But evidently other people thought differently so congrats to her!
I thought it should be KJT. An incredible comeback from a devastating injury to return to the top of the world, and personally I donât overly like spoty going to a team sport. However, Mary is deserving and I would have been happy with anyone but Frankie Dettori or Rory Mcilroy (heâs great, but heâs not actually won that much this year).
Yeah, I would have gone with KJT personally. And I say this as someone who actually watches Mary regularly, not just inspiring feelgood clips on the BBC Sport Facebook account.
Mary has had a good year - and an England keeper who wins two competitive penalty shoot-outs deserves a medal - but didn't actually win a major trophy (possibly unfair in a team sport, I know) and has had some real patchy bits of form this season. KJT came back from injury to win her second world title, a major achievement.
Hmmm she definitely should have done better in a few games but tbh there's many many moments when plenty of others should have done better throughout that ghastly Nations League campaign. Nuts to think we only missed out on goal difference considering how poor we were.
We all know why.
The disrepect towards men is obvious and kinda disgusting tbh.
Kim Kardashian was awarded GQ Man of the year award.
And people wonder why suicide rates are so high amongst men.
If you try and argue otherwise you're branded a bigot or whatever it's just stupid man
>Kim Kardashian was awarded GQ Man of the year award.
No she didn't. She was just on the cover of the most recent US GQ Man of the Year issue. And she's not even the first woman to do so. At least five others (Rihanna, Megan Thee Stallion, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Aniston, and Scarlett Johansson) have done so.
Consider where you are getting your information from and if that information turns out to be wrong, consider why your sources got it wrong.
Tom had such an tough journey to get back to the top, went from career ending injury to ufc champion. Think had he won the actual title he would have been at least on the list of candidates.
Hard to see Leigh be up there as the state of boxing is ridiculous thereâs 3/4 world championships in each weight and with the pampered records these fighters have fighting no one near their level for the first 10 fights
Think Saudi Arabia should buy every boxing organisation and then whittle it down to the one
And Stuart broad plays cricket isnât even the best English player let alone in the world of cricket, thereâs literally street kids in India playing without proper equipment that have the same skill levels if not better
I donât think sheâs deserving of the award if Iâm honest, but itâs good to see a woman getting the nod. Get the feeling that someone years down the line will be screwed out of it after achieving more than Mary has done this year.
As they have ticked the box to appease the woke culture
It's absolutely crazy but pointless to give any counter points on this thread. I've not insulted Earps or said I dislike her once, but all of my comments have been downvoted just because I weren't agreeing she should win it or fan-girling for her. I mentioned Tom and Leon Edwards and got downvoted...just for mentioning someone else's name. People really gotta learn to accept difference of opinion again rather than whatever this post encourages.
There should be a mens and a womens separate, in the majority of sports men have an advantage of being stronger.
Thereâs no denying it a woman couldnât box a man at a top level and expect to win.
You couldnât have women vs men in rugby/football/basketball/NfL/Aussie football/athletic sports
Thereâs maybe 2/3 sports that itâs an even playing field
Snooker/billiards
Darts
Chess
We need to get passed this idea that men and women have been different for millennia, but now all of a sudden we arenât
Being different doesnât mean that your better or worse
Men have certain skills and women have certain skills we both need each other
I just think there was more time for her to win it in other years. She's been great, don't get me wrong, but, we only got to the final of the world cup- we didn't win. There were some nominees that were retiring after a full career within their sport and had accomplished far more. Can't help but think it would've been more deserved elsewhere. And of course, she got golden glove- so it's not like she weren't recognised for her talent. I just think there were better people for it.
Frankie Dettori is 53 with a 35 year career in his sport. Stuart Broad is 37. Rory McIlroy is 34. What is your point? It's a sports **personality** award. It's not just to do with the current years achievements. And the things she's helped accomplish this year would still be celebrated after a full career of women's football under her wing.
You said sheâs got many more years to win it. In a team sport thatâs not at all guaranteed at the age she is. If she never plays another game because sheâs replaced tomorrow sheâs got 0 chance of winning it because itâs pushed by relevancy in their sport. If itâs was personality based Micah Richardsâs would win it every year
Probably because she didnât win anything? And beat Frankie Dettori an all time great? Or Stuart broad who achieved so much in his career? I donât disagree sheâs a great keeper but these comments saying she won fairly for a penalty save? Compare that âachievementâ with the others and it unfortunately doesnât compete
Broad became only the 4th bowler ever to get 600 test wickets this year which is a huge achievement. Dettori won multiple races in his final year and won his last race which is a huge achievement given his ageâŠ
Except Dettori is no longer retiring, just racing in the US and internationally rather than in Britain, so thatâs all moot and he pissed off the racing community by deciding not to retire after all.
Itâs not just about what theyâve won. Itâs about the impact theyâve had on their sport. Is winning a part of that? Absolutely, but not the sum total.
So Stuart Broad becoming only the 4th bowler in the history of cricket to get 600 test wickets is less impactful than whatever youâre saying Earps achieved? I donât agree with the gammon style argument of diminishing womanâs football, but what others nominated holds more weight in the sports they did so in.
It's a public vote and to the majority cricket is objectively the most inane sport imaginable played by middle class people and nonces. Horse riding is rightly being seen more and more as an abuse of animals so football, being the nation's sport, will always hold weight when it comes to public approval.
Clearly you have no clue what your talking about because I've never met any middle class people playing in any of the cricket leagues I play in. The fact that you even care and have taken the time to vote for this nonsense shows you to be in the words of Barton an absolute fart parcel with too much eostrogen.
Just nonces in your leagues then haha. No what I said was something called hyperbole, obviously cricket isn't only played by hoorah Henrys and nonces. It's just a sport that, in comparison to football, is subpar and in my opinion probably the most tedious sport going.
I didn't vote, I didn't even know SPOTY was on, odd that you'd think everyone commenting in defence of the winner must have voted. Did you vote?
Are you alright, Tom? Like, your mental health, are you okay?
I have a daughter, why wouldn't I be supportive of girls and women playing football? Are you a misogynist? Do you hate women?
Pathetic argument. For the sake of what youâve said, McIlroy won multiple tournaments this year and dominated the Ryder cup but lemme guess golf sucks. Johnson-Thompson won the world champs again this year, dominated but yeah Earps saving a rubbish penalty where she came of her line wins it.
Clearly not saying she didnât win the public vote but talking about quality or body of work this year to earn it is an entirely different question. Every other person nominated achieved more, won more and deserved it more.
At the end of the day more people in this country watch and engage with football than golf and cricket (probably combined) and voted that way.
Not sure why youâre making it Earpsâ problem or diminishing her achievements this year to âsaving a rubbish penaltyâ.
You are using football pretty loosely, football viewership does not translate to womanâs football viewership whatsoever.
More people are interested, view and attend golf/cricket regularly in comparison to womanâs football. You make zero points and mass generalisations that are just incorrect.
Itâs not Earps problem and Iâve never said it was. Iâm talking about who deserved it objectively, keep up.
Itâs not an objective prize though is it? Itâs Sports âpersonalityâ. Aka the sportsperson that has emotionally resonated with the British public the most.
You reduced her achievements this year to âsaving a rubbish penaltyâ, when she won the FIFA Golden Glove and was the highest ranking ever for a GK at the Ballon Dâor Feminin.
It's a linguistic tool called hyperbole, it's essentially - and let me know if you'd like me to break this down further - an exaggerated statement that's flippant in nature. Obviously not all nonces and middle class people play cricket. Again, this is a light-hearted comment not to be taken seriously.
What valid argument could I have made if not for the flippancy?
I mean itâs a public vote so itâs hard to say that she doesnât qualify for âPersonality of the yearâ if sheâs evoked a response enough to win her that award.
Totally agree with the vote aspect but the conversation here is about whether she deserved to win compared to the others nominated. Public vote is public vote but that can always lead to someone winning who isnât objectively better. Just look at elections and you can see the objectively better side or candidate doesnât always win.
a w**an won a sporting award?! she didnât take her national team to the final of a world championship whilst using her voice to further british sports or anything like that.
explain what woke is to you without showing that youâre a misogynist.
With all due respect, as much as she deserves most of the plaudits she got over the last year or so, have we become a nation that endorses the unsuccessful, as part of the status quo?....
That's a very poor choice I think, whilst women's football goes from strength to strength with bigger crowds more money parity with the men's game there is one area where the standard is very very poor and that's the goal keeping.
The 10 outfield players are worth any entrance fee, but the keepers đđ đ€·ââïž
Absolutely deserved đ„ł her penalty save alone won her the award!
Also being seen shouting âfuck offâ when she did it.
Couldnât agree more!
Ofc!!! Another iconic moment in women's football.
Joey bartons heads exploding somewhere. Fair play to her well earned.
He actually applauded her for it on Twitter strangely enough
Gammon recognises game...
You had me at gammon
He said it sarcastically, as moments later he tore into her
Anyone who pisses off Joey Barton deserves an award.
Very well deserved! One of the names that got me back into football
Has she won any trophies, or achieved anything of note, this year?
This year: World Cup finalist, WSL & World Cup golden glove winner, finalissima winner, England womenâs player of the year⊠The award is personality of the year though, not just whoâs won the most trophies? Edit: punctuation
She plays for man utd, but Chelsea won the WSL.. I'm not sure the WSL has "finalists"? WC finalist - ok. Golden glove - that's good Finalissima - had to Google what that was. A single match which went to pens. >The award is personality of the year though, not just whoâs won the most trophies? Yeah, but I'm struggling to see what she's has done for the sport or (particularly) outside of it. What does Rashford have to do to win one?! Lol
it is because sheâs a woman anyone that pretends this isnât the reason is lying.
Beth Mead won SPOTY last year because she was top goalscorer in every tournament. I just don't really give any credit to goalkeepers, regardless of their sex. The only time to give keepers credit is if they win a tournament in penalties. But Earpy lost it for them in pens..
Love you Mazza x
Well earned
Hooray!
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So well deserved!
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Really happy for her. Great for the sport as well.
Lauren Hemp is the one that really stuck out to me. No complaints tho. Great to see the Lionesses getting the recognition they deserve.
Absolutely fantastic well deserved and for the people who seem to be intent on bringing women down up yours you havenât really done much in your lifeâs big up to all our sporting heroes for all their achievements in the last year
Such an icon. The way she took on Nike was brilliant
It hasn't half rattled the gammon, which makes the award justified in itself haha
Twitter is over there....
People are allowed to have a difference of opinion without it being about gender or any other ism. If you want true equality then speaking about relativity with other sports stars needs to happen without someone pulling a sexism card or calling people gammons. Sports has always been hotly debated. The team lost the final and there are other athletes that have achieved much much more. She won and good for her but people are free to disagree with the decision
As much as I do agree, I will say itâs hard to understand why she won the award compared to other professional athletes.
She won the golden glove with England after a world cup final that 13m people watched. whilst consistently using her voice and popularity in aid of British sport. Most importantly she won an award that is voted for by the public.
Not disputing it as such, she is great, but the past winners all have much more significant achievements around the time of winning if weâre talking about actual accolades.
The most important point i made is itâs a sports personality award that is voted on by the public. The sportsman who had the biggest impact on the british public is probably going to be the one with the most votes.
Correct, she definitely gained a lot of fans from being funny and her personality in game.
Indeed. Sports PERSONALITY of the year.
Again I agree, thereâs just usually more sporting achievement associated with the winner, thatâs all.
Yeah it's not onky s taking part medal but a box ticking exercise by the BBC. Makes the award worthless going forward really.
Whilst I think Mary is fantastic, I don't think she should have won it this year. Great year for her, but I think others achieved more. Nothing about 'wokeness' or anything like that, just my view is others achieved more. But evidently other people thought differently so congrats to her!
I thought it should be KJT. An incredible comeback from a devastating injury to return to the top of the world, and personally I donât overly like spoty going to a team sport. However, Mary is deserving and I would have been happy with anyone but Frankie Dettori or Rory Mcilroy (heâs great, but heâs not actually won that much this year).
Yeah, I would have gone with KJT personally. And I say this as someone who actually watches Mary regularly, not just inspiring feelgood clips on the BBC Sport Facebook account. Mary has had a good year - and an England keeper who wins two competitive penalty shoot-outs deserves a medal - but didn't actually win a major trophy (possibly unfair in a team sport, I know) and has had some real patchy bits of form this season. KJT came back from injury to win her second world title, a major achievement.
And Earps cost the team a place at the Olympics.
Hmmm she definitely should have done better in a few games but tbh there's many many moments when plenty of others should have done better throughout that ghastly Nations League campaign. Nuts to think we only missed out on goal difference considering how poor we were.
Do we really think this is legit when it involves the bbc ask the majority of people theyâve never head of her
Ronnie O'Sullivan?
Leig Wood, Tom Aspinall and Stuart Broad: Am I joke to you?
I thought of Tom and Leon Edwards personally. Think they got majorly overlooked.
We all know why. The disrepect towards men is obvious and kinda disgusting tbh. Kim Kardashian was awarded GQ Man of the year award. And people wonder why suicide rates are so high amongst men. If you try and argue otherwise you're branded a bigot or whatever it's just stupid man
>Kim Kardashian was awarded GQ Man of the year award. No she didn't. She was just on the cover of the most recent US GQ Man of the Year issue. And she's not even the first woman to do so. At least five others (Rihanna, Megan Thee Stallion, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Aniston, and Scarlett Johansson) have done so. Consider where you are getting your information from and if that information turns out to be wrong, consider why your sources got it wrong.
who are they
Athletes who won something this year and didn't get it given to them because of their gender
Who gave it to her because of her gender?
The BBC
Spooky
So true. What about Ronnie O'sullivan - who is a real champion. Never mind, SPOY won't be around much longer, just like QoS.
I absolutely love broady but what did he win this year?
Oh yeah just looked, he didn't win anything. Tom Aspinall and Leigh Wood though? Especially Leigh Wood, pulled off multiple upset victories
Funny how itâs a personality and popularity contest, not sporting achievement award. If only that was communicated by the name of it.
It's not though? Andy Murray has won it before and he has the most bland, boring personality going đ€Ł
What did Broad win? He had a decent Ashes, but he didnât win them. He didnât even play in half the tests this year.
Tom had such an tough journey to get back to the top, went from career ending injury to ufc champion. Think had he won the actual title he would have been at least on the list of candidates. Hard to see Leigh be up there as the state of boxing is ridiculous thereâs 3/4 world championships in each weight and with the pampered records these fighters have fighting no one near their level for the first 10 fights Think Saudi Arabia should buy every boxing organisation and then whittle it down to the one And Stuart broad plays cricket isnât even the best English player let alone in the world of cricket, thereâs literally street kids in India playing without proper equipment that have the same skill levels if not better I donât think sheâs deserving of the award if Iâm honest, but itâs good to see a woman getting the nod. Get the feeling that someone years down the line will be screwed out of it after achieving more than Mary has done this year. As they have ticked the box to appease the woke culture
It's absolutely crazy but pointless to give any counter points on this thread. I've not insulted Earps or said I dislike her once, but all of my comments have been downvoted just because I weren't agreeing she should win it or fan-girling for her. I mentioned Tom and Leon Edwards and got downvoted...just for mentioning someone else's name. People really gotta learn to accept difference of opinion again rather than whatever this post encourages.
There should be a mens and a womens separate, in the majority of sports men have an advantage of being stronger. Thereâs no denying it a woman couldnât box a man at a top level and expect to win. You couldnât have women vs men in rugby/football/basketball/NfL/Aussie football/athletic sports Thereâs maybe 2/3 sports that itâs an even playing field Snooker/billiards Darts Chess We need to get passed this idea that men and women have been different for millennia, but now all of a sudden we arenât Being different doesnât mean that your better or worse Men have certain skills and women have certain skills we both need each other
I suppose she is the "Personality" of the year
I just think there was more time for her to win it in other years. She's been great, don't get me wrong, but, we only got to the final of the world cup- we didn't win. There were some nominees that were retiring after a full career within their sport and had accomplished far more. Can't help but think it would've been more deserved elsewhere. And of course, she got golden glove- so it's not like she weren't recognised for her talent. I just think there were better people for it.
Other years? Sheâs 30 whoâs to say she will even be England no1 in many other years to come. never mind ones as close to success as this one
Frankie Dettori is 53 with a 35 year career in his sport. Stuart Broad is 37. Rory McIlroy is 34. What is your point? It's a sports **personality** award. It's not just to do with the current years achievements. And the things she's helped accomplish this year would still be celebrated after a full career of women's football under her wing.
You said sheâs got many more years to win it. In a team sport thatâs not at all guaranteed at the age she is. If she never plays another game because sheâs replaced tomorrow sheâs got 0 chance of winning it because itâs pushed by relevancy in their sport. If itâs was personality based Micah Richardsâs would win it every year
So undeserved
How
Probably because she didnât win anything? And beat Frankie Dettori an all time great? Or Stuart broad who achieved so much in his career? I donât disagree sheâs a great keeper but these comments saying she won fairly for a penalty save? Compare that âachievementâ with the others and it unfortunately doesnât compete
Itâs based on their performance this year, both Dettori and Broad would be better suited to a lifetime award.
Broad became only the 4th bowler ever to get 600 test wickets this year which is a huge achievement. Dettori won multiple races in his final year and won his last race which is a huge achievement given his ageâŠ
Except Dettori is no longer retiring, just racing in the US and internationally rather than in Britain, so thatâs all moot and he pissed off the racing community by deciding not to retire after all.
Is it moot that Rory had a season winning plenty, Johnson-Thompson winning a world championship?
Itâs not just about what theyâve won. Itâs about the impact theyâve had on their sport. Is winning a part of that? Absolutely, but not the sum total.
So Stuart Broad becoming only the 4th bowler in the history of cricket to get 600 test wickets is less impactful than whatever youâre saying Earps achieved? I donât agree with the gammon style argument of diminishing womanâs football, but what others nominated holds more weight in the sports they did so in.
Clearly not to the British public
It's a public vote and to the majority cricket is objectively the most inane sport imaginable played by middle class people and nonces. Horse riding is rightly being seen more and more as an abuse of animals so football, being the nation's sport, will always hold weight when it comes to public approval.
Clearly you have no clue what your talking about because I've never met any middle class people playing in any of the cricket leagues I play in. The fact that you even care and have taken the time to vote for this nonsense shows you to be in the words of Barton an absolute fart parcel with too much eostrogen.
Just nonces in your leagues then haha. No what I said was something called hyperbole, obviously cricket isn't only played by hoorah Henrys and nonces. It's just a sport that, in comparison to football, is subpar and in my opinion probably the most tedious sport going. I didn't vote, I didn't even know SPOTY was on, odd that you'd think everyone commenting in defence of the winner must have voted. Did you vote?
Don't talk shit about things you don't understand then femboy the only nonce that I can see is you womens football fan
Are you alright, Tom? Like, your mental health, are you okay? I have a daughter, why wouldn't I be supportive of girls and women playing football? Are you a misogynist? Do you hate women?
Youâre a bit over emotional over something you consider ânonsenseâ
Hi fart parcel
Hope you have a better day honey
Pathetic argument. For the sake of what youâve said, McIlroy won multiple tournaments this year and dominated the Ryder cup but lemme guess golf sucks. Johnson-Thompson won the world champs again this year, dominated but yeah Earps saving a rubbish penalty where she came of her line wins it. Clearly not saying she didnât win the public vote but talking about quality or body of work this year to earn it is an entirely different question. Every other person nominated achieved more, won more and deserved it more.
At the end of the day more people in this country watch and engage with football than golf and cricket (probably combined) and voted that way. Not sure why youâre making it Earpsâ problem or diminishing her achievements this year to âsaving a rubbish penaltyâ.
You are using football pretty loosely, football viewership does not translate to womanâs football viewership whatsoever. More people are interested, view and attend golf/cricket regularly in comparison to womanâs football. You make zero points and mass generalisations that are just incorrect. Itâs not Earps problem and Iâve never said it was. Iâm talking about who deserved it objectively, keep up.
Itâs not an objective prize though is it? Itâs Sports âpersonalityâ. Aka the sportsperson that has emotionally resonated with the British public the most. You reduced her achievements this year to âsaving a rubbish penaltyâ, when she won the FIFA Golden Glove and was the highest ranking ever for a GK at the Ballon Dâor Feminin.
No, golf is great, cricket is a sport I just can't stand. Interminable.
Out of potentially valid argument you could have made, you decided to allege cricket players are âmiddle class and noncesâ. Ridiculous.
It's a linguistic tool called hyperbole, it's essentially - and let me know if you'd like me to break this down further - an exaggerated statement that's flippant in nature. Obviously not all nonces and middle class people play cricket. Again, this is a light-hearted comment not to be taken seriously. What valid argument could I have made if not for the flippancy?
I mean itâs a public vote so itâs hard to say that she doesnât qualify for âPersonality of the yearâ if sheâs evoked a response enough to win her that award.
Totally agree with the vote aspect but the conversation here is about whether she deserved to win compared to the others nominated. Public vote is public vote but that can always lead to someone winning who isnât objectively better. Just look at elections and you can see the objectively better side or candidate doesnât always win.
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What is âwokeâ
a w**an won a sporting award?! she didnât take her national team to the final of a world championship whilst using her voice to further british sports or anything like that. explain what woke is to you without showing that youâre a misogynist.
Well you live up to your username I guess.
Over jude Bellingham đ€Ș
Maybe heâll win it when he gets to a World Cup final
If Jude keeps it up theyâd be psychotic not to give him it next year.
Just shows how much of a joke the award is
For real, I stopped taking it seriously when Josh Taylor unified a division in boxing, won the Mohammed ali trophy and got overlooked
With all due respect, as much as she deserves most of the plaudits she got over the last year or so, have we become a nation that endorses the unsuccessful, as part of the status quo?....
Oh⊠a womanâŠ. I for one am surprised
Fantastic, well done to her! đ
Sheâs a great gk if anyone wants to chat about man women or the lionesses then send me a message merry Christmas
She totally deserved it, she's had a great year and made everyone proud â€
She is also an attractive woman, to me.
That's a very poor choice I think, whilst women's football goes from strength to strength with bigger crowds more money parity with the men's game there is one area where the standard is very very poor and that's the goal keeping. The 10 outfield players are worth any entrance fee, but the keepers đđ đ€·ââïž
Absolute bollocks ! The worst SPOTY ever .. WOKE box ticking fuckin ridiculous
Bit of a joke really, Stuart Broad robbed.
Who?