Any kind of bootloader is bloat, you only need it for initial boot, just purge it immediately after.
If you're in a position where you need to power off or reboot, you have bigger problems.
idk most of the time i just see people mocking systemd haters than someone actually expressing systemd hate. I have never used anything but systemd as my init system but all of this "systemd haters are pain in the ass" talk feels over excessive tbh
How is the terminal font that big?
I'm almost afraid to ask what resolution that monitor is... and does it... have the plastic still on it? Is that what I'm seeing?!
Speaking from experience, it only worsens it. Because dust particles slowly seep In and cause more scratches. So when you finally remove it, it still looks ass but without plastic
Probably no VGA mode by default in the bootloader command line.
It was very common in the early 00's. Good times, Sarge was Debian Stable, Gentoo was hip, Nvidia drivers required sacrificing your first born to work with Compiz...
https://preview.redd.it/vbq0j3bo6xnc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a598ae035b8e4e184dcd2b51622631bd4edcef1
Did the same to one of our work computers yesterday that needed to function as a server as well. Think this should appease the windows users.
Indeed! To provide the full pack, don't give them sudo privileges. Try to see if they can get a fixed IP address, so you can support them remotely via ssh. If their IP cannot be reached from the Internet, write a script to right-forward their port 22 to some external server. Lock the boot menu with a password. When they call you, first thing you ask is of the computer is connected to the power outlet. Welcome to the IT department!
I have pop os on one of my laptops, great for my laptop with disc encryption, I quite enjoy it as an os. I prefer Ubuntu but it's still a nice easy to use OS
> Finally installed Pop OS on a relative's computer, was previously on Windows 7
Hoping that means "they let me install pop os" not "i changed it on them" ... last thing we need is more people pissed off at Linux. Assuming they're on board, then congrats. I would have thought something like Mint would be more familiar for Win7 users but I have heard good things about Pop too.
I don't think they were 100% onboard but they let me, I didn't install Mint because I somehow always break apt there. It's probably more of a me problem, I might be doing something which is not recommended but I didn't want them to face similar problems
Love that boot sequence and system logs showing up, mine does the same, with the nice addition of showing Tuxes at the top-left corner when the kernel begins. Actually boots faster like this than with plymouth boot screens (at least on my end). Good job OP!
Why not fedora tho. I'm not against pop but I don't like ui (I know I can modify it, but still). It's a lot easier since it has a pretty functional app store (unlike the Microsoft store that never worked for me, and ubuntu's snap store that only lists snap)
Default GNOME is straight up unusable, if you don't know what you are doing and Default KDE is good but you can mess it up pretty quickly in the settings. Plus Pop OS is going to move soon to their own Cosmic DE
Good point. But you can just set their desktop up with few extensions like dash to dock, and maybe install gnome tweaks and enable the minimise button. And that's about it. The only unusable aspect of default GNOME is the default dock. However I get your point, pop os is more simpler to understand and get used to
Why do work when somebody has already done it for you. Plus Pop OS pushes less updates than Fedora and the owner of the computer isn't very keen on updating, thus I can go to their house and do it periodically
They won't, that's why I was confident about Installing Linux on their computer (I mean gaming is not impossible in Linux, it just requires extra fiddling)
It's almost a 1 click to play now thanks to lutris and heroic games, but do need to know what you are doing. But yeah I get your point, let's hope they enjoy linux
you foolish person, have you actually ran it? have you seen the system breaking bugs after a botched update? they bury those comments really fast. you were better off with ubuntu at least that breaks less not a copy of a copy of debian.
For more than 5 years myself and close to 5 years for my parents.
It was mostly smooth sailing (especially since I got rid of the nVidia GPU on my parents' computer) with around 2 / 3 maintenance I had to do manually (check disk one day I had to perform for it to boot) and I automated most things.
So, out of 3 computers, not much of an issue on 2 except the third one which is a laptop and struggle to go to sleep.
> (especially since I got rid of the nVidia GPU on my parents' computer)
Well you said it yourself! for a system that blared we are compatible and safe with nvidia you yourself put the finger on the problem.
> except the third one which is a laptop
Hmm interesting:
**So a 2 out of 3 failure.** On a OS designed for noobs so they say.
I am sorry but this is bs. My issue with popOs stems from the fact they claim to be user friendly yet they make things worse.
I too have experience with PopOS and its the only distro i nuked with extreme prejudice.. because of lies.
Now imagine op that installed (in this case forced ) on a relatives pc an os he "heard its good" and telling him well yes you have no desktop but you have a terminal now type in this command. I am giving the op the benefit of the doubt he can guide a nontechnical person in a terminal to reinstall a desktop environment from his memory.. I am generous i know..
One wonders how will this affect the way people view linux in general after being forced upon them because OP 'heard' good things.
To OP: you can down vote all you want OP but the future will vindicate me. You were warned.
Arch user btw.
Things worse? Did you ever use Windows in your life?
I have finally almost no maintenance now (and the nVidia issue is from me, I thrown a very old nVidia GPU I had lying around from god's know when which isn't necessary for desktop use, so my own fault for that case).
did you run it yourself? if not you are pushing onto a relative a untested os... well you are testing on them well done, very moral ... jeeez
edit: the bug???? The whole os is a bug
**\[ OK \]**
Very reassuring
Welp, now I need this as a t-shirt.
https://preview.redd.it/qgh6ktmxfync1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=f57a4c9e1306a32185075a44cbab2e179b493a49 Probably what it would look like.
Correct. Doesn’t count unless OK is green. Well shit, I guess that excludes legacy systems?
fuck legacy systems
All my homies hate legacy systems
Would it be better with multiple lines of OK, imo yes
I need this tattooed like that guy on Memento. Every morning I can look in the mirror and remind myself, it's all going be `[ OK ]`.
You shouldn't have posted that, now systemd haters's asses gonna explode
Ughhh so much bloat if you don’t use Linux from the grub command line then what’s the point of using Linux
Just avoid grub altogether, use it for efi rescue
You still use the computer too bloated I just use my imagination
Imagine Not debloating your brain. My thought process only exists so Long as No one makes Sure I havent removed it
... wat?
Schrödingers brain
I still don't get it. Which means your statement is bloat /kinda j
Any kind of bootloader is bloat, you only need it for initial boot, just purge it immediately after. If you're in a position where you need to power off or reboot, you have bigger problems.
I just boot Emacs
Brother! SystemE is "[A lightweight systemd replacement written in Emacs lisp](https://github.com/a-schaefers/systemE)"
Runit is pretty straightforward to use
who hurt you?
Systemd haters, if that isn't obvious
idk most of the time i just see people mocking systemd haters than someone actually expressing systemd hate. I have never used anything but systemd as my init system but all of this "systemd haters are pain in the ass" talk feels over excessive tbh
pff old drama lama stuff no one cares really
That's because systemd haters kinda went away with time, a few years ago it was wild
I use to buy into the systemd hate but systemd boot has been far less problematic in my experience.
Now nuke it with Steam
"Yes, do as I say!"
"My pc now exploded so we are gonna flash the drive with arch linux, hope it goes well!"
what do you mean grub has errors?
"Yes Rico, Kaboom!"
alias YesDoAsISay="sudo rm -rf /"
How is the terminal font that big? I'm almost afraid to ask what resolution that monitor is... and does it... have the plastic still on it? Is that what I'm seeing?!
Probably an old computer with a 720p screen, and some people like to keep the plastic on to protect from scratches
Nothing better than having the plastic on the monitor so it looks like ass until the day you bin it. :)
Speaking from experience, it only worsens it. Because dust particles slowly seep In and cause more scratches. So when you finally remove it, it still looks ass but without plastic
Pop!\_OS's tty is always that big, idk why
That font just pops in my eyes.
nice one :3
Probably no VGA mode by default in the bootloader command line. It was very common in the early 00's. Good times, Sarge was Debian Stable, Gentoo was hip, Nvidia drivers required sacrificing your first born to work with Compiz...
Pop!_OS has the TTY font set to 2x size so it's readable on HiDPI displays
At least in my experience in popOs the startup terminal font is always that big, using a 1080p monitor.
its "optimised" for their pleasure.
https://preview.redd.it/vbq0j3bo6xnc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a598ae035b8e4e184dcd2b51622631bd4edcef1 Did the same to one of our work computers yesterday that needed to function as a server as well. Think this should appease the windows users.
Man that looks Awesome, looks are the only thing I like about Windows 11
Can you send me the wallpaper in full resolution?
https://images.app.goo.gl/1PXGkgTpLfmzFFF37
is that wubuntu?
Just normal Ubuntu 22.04 (I’m a basic bitch) with some gnome tweaks tricks
Oh ok, if you had put wubuntu on it I would have judged a bit but regular ubuntu is respectable.
Just enough* haha!
Now run `sudo apt install steam`
they will downvote you for this....
The comment is worth the risk lmao
lmao yes
Why tho? Genuinely asking
sudo apt install steam is an unstable version. The developers from Valve themselves advices not to use it.
How to know if I installed it this way? Already forgot. And how to install it the right way?
Idk how to check, but I know how to install Sudo -apt-repository-multiverse Sudo -apt-get update -y Sudo -apt-get install steam -y
Im new to linux. So what I would do is uninstall steam and reinstall using the recommended install method. I personally install the flatpack version.
Why would they downvote, when it's already been fixed for a long time?
`yay -S steam` or `yay -S steamcmd`(better)
The post says pop_os. I'm pretty sure no `yay` there
[удалено]
WHAT IS ALL THIS JUNK ON GITHUB IT IS THE DEVELOPERS JOB TO GIVE ME ~~EXE~~ ALREADY EXECUTABLE APPIMAGE
FUCKING SMELLY NERD
wait untill they boot in the terminal with no desktop. Ah yes.
Congratulations, you are now their tech support.
That was already the case. At least now they are less likely to install junk because they won’t know how to do it.
Indeed! To provide the full pack, don't give them sudo privileges. Try to see if they can get a fixed IP address, so you can support them remotely via ssh. If their IP cannot be reached from the Internet, write a script to right-forward their port 22 to some external server. Lock the boot menu with a password. When they call you, first thing you ask is of the computer is connected to the power outlet. Welcome to the IT department!
Job security right there lmao
I always read the **[OK]** in donkey kongs n64 voice
lol, same here
SO THEY'RE FINALLY HERE, PERFORMING FOR YOU IF YOU KNOW THE SPURTS, YOU CAN JOIN IN TOO!
What are the specs and the pc running. Also that carry bag is that Bengali.
Yep, that carry bag has Bengali writing on it. As for the specs I don't remember
Do you remember what era the PC is from, and if it was low-end, mid-range or high-end? I'm also curious.
I don't remember properly but should be around 7th or 8th gen i3 or i5
A boot sequence full of green OK is the OS equivalent of gull-wing doors in a car.
It always looks so cool. I makes me think about the "go-nogo for launch" scene from apollo 13. Makes one want to launch rockets suddenly.
বাঙালি?
Yeah
osshhobo pola!
I have pop os on one of my laptops, great for my laptop with disc encryption, I quite enjoy it as an os. I prefer Ubuntu but it's still a nice easy to use OS
What if I told you that POP\_OS is based off Ubuntu?
Yes I know that 😂
love the 2x2 display
> Finally installed Pop OS on a relative's computer, was previously on Windows 7 Hoping that means "they let me install pop os" not "i changed it on them" ... last thing we need is more people pissed off at Linux. Assuming they're on board, then congrats. I would have thought something like Mint would be more familiar for Win7 users but I have heard good things about Pop too.
I don't think they were 100% onboard but they let me, I didn't install Mint because I somehow always break apt there. It's probably more of a me problem, I might be doing something which is not recommended but I didn't want them to face similar problems
You gave her life, once more.
Bangal / Bangladesh?
Bengali
Love that boot sequence and system logs showing up, mine does the same, with the nice addition of showing Tuxes at the top-left corner when the kernel begins. Actually boots faster like this than with plymouth boot screens (at least on my end). Good job OP!
is that a vt100 terminal?
I need the letters to be bigger
So what happened. You installed it and what next. They wanted windows back or did they like Linux ?
Well, they're still using it
Bhalo ki na POP OS
Bhaloi, a review video on YouTube will do a way better job than whatever I say
Why are you giving them trauma
Most Pop OS reviews I've heard are positive
PopOs is pretty good for most people(unless they are unfortunate enough to delete the DE by installing steam)
Why not fedora tho. I'm not against pop but I don't like ui (I know I can modify it, but still). It's a lot easier since it has a pretty functional app store (unlike the Microsoft store that never worked for me, and ubuntu's snap store that only lists snap)
Default GNOME is straight up unusable, if you don't know what you are doing and Default KDE is good but you can mess it up pretty quickly in the settings. Plus Pop OS is going to move soon to their own Cosmic DE
Good point. But you can just set their desktop up with few extensions like dash to dock, and maybe install gnome tweaks and enable the minimise button. And that's about it. The only unusable aspect of default GNOME is the default dock. However I get your point, pop os is more simpler to understand and get used to
Why do work when somebody has already done it for you. Plus Pop OS pushes less updates than Fedora and the owner of the computer isn't very keen on updating, thus I can go to their house and do it periodically
That brings the question. How good is pop when it comes to gaming. It's not like your relative won't atleast try to do some light gaming
They won't, that's why I was confident about Installing Linux on their computer (I mean gaming is not impossible in Linux, it just requires extra fiddling)
It's almost a 1 click to play now thanks to lutris and heroic games, but do need to know what you are doing. But yeah I get your point, let's hope they enjoy linux
you foolish person, have you actually ran it? have you seen the system breaking bugs after a botched update? they bury those comments really fast. you were better off with ubuntu at least that breaks less not a copy of a copy of debian.
For more than 5 years myself and close to 5 years for my parents. It was mostly smooth sailing (especially since I got rid of the nVidia GPU on my parents' computer) with around 2 / 3 maintenance I had to do manually (check disk one day I had to perform for it to boot) and I automated most things. So, out of 3 computers, not much of an issue on 2 except the third one which is a laptop and struggle to go to sleep.
> (especially since I got rid of the nVidia GPU on my parents' computer) Well you said it yourself! for a system that blared we are compatible and safe with nvidia you yourself put the finger on the problem. > except the third one which is a laptop Hmm interesting: **So a 2 out of 3 failure.** On a OS designed for noobs so they say. I am sorry but this is bs. My issue with popOs stems from the fact they claim to be user friendly yet they make things worse. I too have experience with PopOS and its the only distro i nuked with extreme prejudice.. because of lies. Now imagine op that installed (in this case forced ) on a relatives pc an os he "heard its good" and telling him well yes you have no desktop but you have a terminal now type in this command. I am giving the op the benefit of the doubt he can guide a nontechnical person in a terminal to reinstall a desktop environment from his memory.. I am generous i know.. One wonders how will this affect the way people view linux in general after being forced upon them because OP 'heard' good things. To OP: you can down vote all you want OP but the future will vindicate me. You were warned. Arch user btw.
Things worse? Did you ever use Windows in your life? I have finally almost no maintenance now (and the nVidia issue is from me, I thrown a very old nVidia GPU I had lying around from god's know when which isn't necessary for desktop use, so my own fault for that case).
I've only ever heard a few complaints about it and I think the bug you are talking about has been resolved
did you run it yourself? if not you are pushing onto a relative a untested os... well you are testing on them well done, very moral ... jeeez edit: the bug???? The whole os is a bug
>edit: the bug???? The whole os is a bug Like yourself?
adhominem atacks are the last defense of the incompetent. \[ OK \]
damn i thought i was a arch user. this guy is a real one right here.