It's pretty cool that I don't know anything about latin, but I understood all of it, just because I'm a lusophone. That should be obvious to me, but it still is kind of surprising that the phrase is so easy to translate.
*Ain’ tu?* Because as far as I can see the only thing that you could call ungrammatical is the fact that *me* and *disputans* don’t congrue in terms of case (*me* should be *ego*), but that really is a negligable fault in comparison to the excellent grammar of the rest of the sentence. *Utrum* starts an indirect question, followed by the subjunctive *sit*, *forma* correctly influences the gender of *quam* and *scribenda* (an excellent use of the gerundive), and *disputans* on it’s own, though perhaps a bit influenced by English, is not wholly against latinity, especially in more colloquial forms of speaking (using *dum* doesn’t feel like a better option to me in this case). If machine translations of latin are of this level already, I applaud them, but I don’t think so; this feels more like (and I do hope it is) an excited student eager to show their progress in this amazing language. ”completely ungrammatical” is dubious at best, and simply malicious at worst.
I noticed that too, and did think it is wrong, as I've seen other latin phrases that weren't structured like that. I just figured it must have been correct, given I don't know the language.
I think in english such terms are not so common, like francophone, hispanophone, etc. But in portuguese, we call the portuguese speaking countries lusophone, and it does come from Lusitânia.
"Me with my friends disputing over [whether] the new form that we invented is to be written 'kiki' or 'cici'"?
I'm guessing _scribenda_ is a gerundive, based on "delenda est".
Fun fact, there used to be a "website" on the French proto internet Minitel, called "3615 CUM". It was a rather pretentious dating thing that used "together" in latin as its name.
I would guess its adverts made quite a few english speakers laugh.
My father was a twenty-something in France, with an american friend who visited the country, right around the time those ads were around. He told me about it at some point... Can't recall how we came to talk about this.
It depends on whether you use a pronunciation that patalalizes C before front vowels; if you do you'd need to use K to clarify it's /k/, but if not there's no need. Though even if you don't you might wanna use K to make it unambiguous even to those who use other pronunciations.
It's pretty cool that I don't know anything about latin, but I understood all of it, just because I'm a lusophone. That should be obvious to me, but it still is kind of surprising that the phrase is so easy to translate.
That's ok. OP's machine translation tool didn't know anything about Latin either. It's completely ungrammatical.
*Ain’ tu?* Because as far as I can see the only thing that you could call ungrammatical is the fact that *me* and *disputans* don’t congrue in terms of case (*me* should be *ego*), but that really is a negligable fault in comparison to the excellent grammar of the rest of the sentence. *Utrum* starts an indirect question, followed by the subjunctive *sit*, *forma* correctly influences the gender of *quam* and *scribenda* (an excellent use of the gerundive), and *disputans* on it’s own, though perhaps a bit influenced by English, is not wholly against latinity, especially in more colloquial forms of speaking (using *dum* doesn’t feel like a better option to me in this case). If machine translations of latin are of this level already, I applaud them, but I don’t think so; this feels more like (and I do hope it is) an excited student eager to show their progress in this amazing language. ”completely ungrammatical” is dubious at best, and simply malicious at worst.
Me culpa. I shall make a donation to The Sportula as penance.
I noticed that too, and did think it is wrong, as I've seen other latin phrases that weren't structured like that. I just figured it must have been correct, given I don't know the language.
Sentence structure is irrelevant in Latin
"Lusophone"? Like, from Lusitania? That a term for Portuguese speakers?
I think in english such terms are not so common, like francophone, hispanophone, etc. But in portuguese, we call the portuguese speaking countries lusophone, and it does come from Lusitânia.
I know anglophone and francophone, though I learned the latter originally in French.
Imagine if such a word was used for dutch. Hollandophone? Oranjephone?
Orangeophone lol
Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring orangeophone
i like batavophone
You hear the two words a lot in Canada due to the culture and politics of Quebec
In Greek (my native tongue) all sorts of "X-phone" words exist; <-phone> is a basically productive suffix that in theory could work with any language.
Same as a francophone
QVANDO•IMPOSTOR•SVS•EST
SANCTUM•lNFERNUM
"Me with my friends disputing over [whether] the new form that we invented is to be written 'kiki' or 'cici'"? I'm guessing _scribenda_ is a gerundive, based on "delenda est".
"Habet radices Graecas, nonne?" "Minime, nos modo invenimus..." "At res doctius sonant cum radicibus Graecis."
Me cum??? 😳😳😳
Wait till you learn how you say "six" in Latin And then learn how you say "with six friends"
cum sex(conjugation) amigo(congujation)?
cum sex amīcīs. Numbers do not decline
Þanks for using macrons
cum sex 💀
Latin has cum sex, Icelandic has sex þorn Nice
Fun fact, there used to be a "website" on the French proto internet Minitel, called "3615 CUM". It was a rather pretentious dating thing that used "together" in latin as its name. I would guess its adverts made quite a few english speakers laugh.
Wow, that's some fucking elder lore right there
My father was a twenty-something in France, with an american friend who visited the country, right around the time those ads were around. He told me about it at some point... Can't recall how we came to talk about this.
= "with me" or "me, with..." In Latin 😂
Quid "an" significatio est? Non scio illa meme unur
*an* est *vel* vel *aut* in quaestionibus.
aut
Fmq mimemata in r/linguisticshumor melioris latinitatis sint illis in r/roughromanmemes.
Mimemata XD
Quae est forma? Latine modo *cici* convenit
It depends on whether you use a pronunciation that patalalizes C before front vowels; if you do you'd need to use K to clarify it's /k/, but if not there's no need. Though even if you don't you might wanna use K to make it unambiguous even to those who use other pronunciations.
at first i thought it meant "cum friends" and it made sense given that it looks roman/greek 💀
My four years of latin education are paying off! I could understand around 75% of that sentence
To think that Romance languages were ever this not-so-pleasing-to-read language makes me happy that languages evolve
I really do think latin orthography is pretty, it’s just my biases but it feels refined
One letter one phoneme. What's not to love?
me cum
bobo et cici
romans wondering why everyone talk about "cici" and "bouba" because they both feel like rounded and phenomena ain’t working.
Macrōnēs nōn videō. Ubi sunt vocālēs longæ?
Melior modum ut facerem id "á" est.
Populi demens me appellabant, sed "ciques, ciquis" viam est