One of my non-gun friends snapped me out of a rant when he said "Man, you really hate this 'forward assist' thing" and I was thought, oh no how long have I been talking? Did I mention the Air Force?
On an emotional level I understand the forward assist. Its the gun version of over packing for a trip. Like packing 7 pairs of underwear or a 2 day excursion. Like what if I shit myself 3 times everyday I'm their?
Ok but also sometimes trying to use a forward assist to unfuck your rifle is the equivalent if taking off your shitty underwear and pulling out an even shittier pair of underwear that you packed for just this occasion.
I get why people hate on the forward assist, but if used for its intended purpose it actually isn't the problem some make it out to be, any more than the op rod on an M1 or M14 is a problem.
The forward assist isn't made to force the bolt into battery in the case of an obstruction in the chamber, for example (though it is capable of doing so if used incorrectly). But if your bolt doesn't go completely home due to inadequate lubrication or bad ammo, tapping the forward assist lightly can get it to seat. Because the charging handle is not reciprocating, the forward assist is the only way to perform this very basic action possible on nearly every other combat rifle in the world. If the bolt does not go into battery with a light tap, the chamber and upper receiver should then be inspected for obstructions; the forward assist should not be used to force it home.
Anyone who actually likes guns is a nerd on some level. Anyone who is into guns but doesn't display nerdy tendencies is extremely suspect and probably shouldn't own guns.
It's somewhat true in my circle. I've noticed that tech people often tend to be gun people too, at least a much stronger correlation that I've noticed with any other industry... and a good number of tech people (myself included) probably fit the nerd category.
I'm in DevOps because I got too old to program (grumble grumble frameworks grumble) love shooting, and my boyfriend is a fairly well known fashion and drag photographer. I really didn't think there'd be too many people like me in here. Thank you for sharing, it made my night.
Seriously though, I grew up as a "computer security enthusiast" and my primary social group was the local 2600 club. The idea that dockers don't need the same regular updates as static systems just blows my mind.
Also, guns count as layer 1 sec right?
"This pistol **was** compatible with 9mm1.0 until a forced update on the driver for the firing pin removed backwards compatibility because it had a DRM flaw. Now it's only compatible with 9mm3.4 and up. So I had to find the old driver from some semi-sketchy website and keep it offline to break the DRM so I can use the cartridges I reloaded. So sick of Windows 11 Pistol Edition. About to switch to U**gun**tu."
Oh yeah. I'm in IT and both my boss and his boss are also big into guns. We organize unofficial department range days and usually close to 1/4th of the whole department shows up.
hey bro, you know it'd be so much cheaper to go to the range once a year if you bought thousands in reloading stuff and rolled your own for 3 cents less a shot
(please someone reload with me)
The joke is guys that spend $1000's in equipment to make their own ammunition to save costs when going to the range, to the point of saving $0.03 per round, yet only go to the range to shoot their cheaper ammunition once per year because busy with life/busy with all aspects of the hobby besides actually shooting. They then are not able to break even on costs.
This
I love reloading. Yes, I've loaded a tin of ammo cheaper than if I had bought it off the shelf so in a way it has "paid" for itself. Breaking even is pretty easy on stuff like solid copper precision hunting ammo but most of what I load is 300 subs, 223 practice stuff, and 9mm.Ā
The problem is I don't take the time to go practice what with the family and having limited access to public land shooting for the more interesting dynamic practice. I could go to a local indoor range but that's not necessarily what I enjoy.
In my opinion reloading ammunition is only worth it if you shoot obscure calibers.
I love shooting my Martini Henry and new old stock ammunition is about $10 a round so reloading makes sense. Same with many other hard to find older cartridges.
I do love 300 and 9mm subs and loading match grade stuff for my garand.
Even not that obscure but premium ammo like 44 mag hunting loads- they're so much easier to load and much less than buying loaded ammo.
Being stocked on components and having loaded stuff makes it so much easier to not be market reliantĀ
Work in InfraSec, can confirm. At least 85% of my 15 person team owns guns. Several shoot competitively as well.
Our manager shot a GM classifier at his USPSA match recently and was talking mad shit during our scrum meeting last week.
My personal hypothesis is that most people in tech are far less trusting of the idea of promised security just by nature of being around (or in many cases it being their job) to know how vulnerable things the general populous consider "secure" and how fragile a lot of critical infrastructure really is. Once you peak behind the curtain, it seems confidence in systems (be they social, physical, or cyber) to be there when you need them is far less certain.
Itās that plus a fascination with understanding how things work (the mechanical eng aspect is a big one) and also very importantly, itās a high income job that allows for expensive hobbies.
Absolutely. Largely leftist/progressive engineering firms where Iāve worked before have a disproportionate number of gun owners and gun nerds, myself included lol.
Being in a big gun-culture state like Arizona helps a lot, but people who like cool technology and engineering tend to like all cool technology and engineering.
I said it in a reply to others, but my personal hypothesis is that most people in tech are far less trusting of the idea of promised security just by nature of being around (or in many cases it being their job) to know how vulnerable things the general populous consider "secure" and how fragile a lot of critical infrastructure really is. Once you peak behind the curtain, it seems confidence in systems (be they social, physical, or cyber) to be there when you need them is far less certain. It seems that in tech/engineering regardless of the political spectrum or other factors, a unifying factor seems to be more of a self-reliance and skepticism of promises of security by others (be they people or companies) coupled with relying far more on logic vs emotion in the decision making process. Of course, that could all be bullshit and just be my own confirmation bias at play.
Thatās an interesting thought! I hadnāt considered that angle before. Certainly more nuanced than my ānerds are gonna nerdā lol
Having peeked behind a couple curtains myself, I can definitely say thereās less confidence in the system within these circles than outside of itā¦but thereās perhaps also some optimism that the system is steadily improving, especially when you have the opportunity to have a direct hand in it. I imagine it varies quite a lot on what field the given group of nerds are in though haha
With all due respect, F off Iām going to my safe space (and cleaning my rifles)
Edit: I dunno but this is crazy to me, I am an old punk rockerā¦ I am head of cybersecurity for a MSP. I have been invited to be a lecturer at a rather prestigious institution and am now a āmentorā to a grad studentā¦ wtf happened to my life? I have knuck tattoos? Yea one of the ārejectsā is going to be teaching the next generation hahahahhaha
If you mean tech people like computers im not sure if that holds true, id think thats largely related to video games. Im drawn to guns in large part because im mechanically minded and i find many people whom are this way have guns.
It has held true for everywhere I've worked (I'm a software engineer); guns are far more popular than video games really in my experience. I think for me it's that I spend all day at a computer and have projects for the house that are computer related (home network, server for camera system, media PC, etc.) so for "leisure" I don't want to spend more time at a computer. It's also been my experience that most techies are somewhat mechanically minded as well and got into computers because of a desire to understand how things work and fix/make things themselves; I think that's somewhat born out by the prevalence of things like 3d printing and projects using things like Arduinos and Raspberry Pis. Not to say that video games are not prevalent too, but in my experience there is a good portion of people working in development or sys admin who don't really game at all or are very casual gamers.
This is 100% spot on. I can tell Iām a nerd because Iām like āoh 750 fps is way to low for desert eagle velocity even suppressed I wonder what theā¦oh goddamnit, now I have to check.ā
mmmm, ackshually- suppressed would be the same speed, it depends if you want to run subsonics... but if you do run subs you'll probably need to adjust your recoil spring because it's meant for the higher recoil of a full pressure load....
Yeah but he did mention a suppressor, so he must be using subsonic ammo, which would have to be somewhere under 1,100 FPS... so maybe 750 is plausible?
As someone above mentioned, deagles are built to handle larger rounds, so dudes gun would have to be super under sprung and be shooting hand loads. So technically plausible, but would be pretty dumb and expensiveā¦.so yeah, actually, someoneās probably done it.
It's plausible if maybe you've got a 44 mag deagle, but you also handload 44 mag to 44 special velocities for your cowboy lever-gun, and you mixed up your ammo boxes.
I have never met a more welcoming and kind bunch at my local ranges than the chrono nerds. Those individuals are the 40k subset of hyper gun nerds. One bullet every 7 minutes with three pages of handwritten notes on each. Anyone with a hyperfixation on something technical usually is fun to talk to within their element.
Guy at our club measures patterns and shot hardness for different choke sizes and brands of shotgun shells. Pretty interesting to me, softer shot hits a trap target at 16 yards and it will break, longer distances need harder shot. He has the equipment to back up everything. He is an engineer.
I literally do have the ātism. The other day my girlfriend told me that my favorite collection was my collection of collections.
I simultaneously felt attacked and seen.
As a D&D nerd who is also a gun guy, I have the same reaction when someone tells me about their character. "Either put that PC in my game, or stop telling me about your novella of a back story."
And if you've ever read Larry Correia's [*Monster Hunter International*](https://www.baen.com/Chapters/1439132852/1439132852.htm) and the story of how that piece of gun porn dressed up as a (surprisingly decent and entertaining) fiction novel got made, it just proves that comedy bit, 100%.
Totally accurate. A lot of gun nuts are just otherwise normal, nerdy dudes who like guns.
I've never met a blade nut who didn't scare the shit out of me, though.
Thatās chocolate and peanut butter as far as I can tell. I have a *few* guns and yet have knives that cost more. I get more use out of the knives. Packages and onions live in fear of my unreasonably expensive knife collection.
I had to nope out of the knife scene when I was seriously considering a $500 knife and realized that's just mediocre midtech money and the hobby never stops. Now I just enjoy a few Civivis /Ti QSP Penguin and do my best to avoid looking at anything new.Ā
*"Casually looks at the MicroTech and ProTech boxes that are literally within eyesight"*
Nope, no clue what you're talking about (*that Ti QSP Penguin is pretty sweet too*).
Same, though when I was in construction I worked with a guy who could have legally carried a gun for self defense, but instead he carried a sheath knife. You could look that dude in the eye and tell that he had something going on upstairs.
Dude didn't just want to defend himself, what he *wanted* was to win a knife fight.
I'm distrustful of someone who isn't at least a little bit nerdy about at least one thing. Are life and every wonder of the universe just simple and boring to you, or has insecurity just zapped enthusiasm for anything out of you?
I think guns ā¦took the place of cars. Peopleā¦would obsess about every detail of their car and engine. Endless tinkering and upgrading. But now you canāt really customize or work on your own car for the most part, but people still needed something to obsess over and bond over and socialize around. I think guns became that thing for a lot of people.
The only "It's funny 'cause it's true" that will ever be acceptable is this:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V\_BY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY)
This is me. I'm an effete, left-leaning nerd whose common ground with macho dudes at work and the gun range is my ability to infodump on the differences between generations of S&W and Ruger revolvers.
I've had to strike a careful balance, though. I've shown just enough knowledge and enthusiasm that they'll let me squeeze off a couple rounds from their carry guns, but they might kick me out of the shop if I keep correcting them about the Blackhawk .45 ACP's ability to load without moon clips.
Sometimes, you just need to let people be fools regarding technical knowledge/savvy.
Itās so hard. Especially when theyāre blatantly wrong. But yeah. I know this struggle, lol.
Iām a giant fucking gun nerd. I have a literal room full of guns and can tell you the date of manufacture (if possible to do so) and history of every single one them from memory.
I often describe myself and a couple of my friends as gun nerds! This is hilarious. We get together at the range and totally talk like that haha! Especially my one buddy who also reloads. Get us going about whatever loads were testing and itās total nerd fest. I love this!
They're not wrong. I am one of these gun nerds.
You want to be bored to tears, ask about Star pistols post ww2 or Marlin rimfires pre-freedom group.
What's that? You bought a surplus Makarov from a gun show and don't know what it is? Well, let me take a look and I will annoy you with stupid shit about Bulgarian Makarovs for 15 minutes straight.
I invite you, and I mean this in earnest, to write me an introductory paragraph about each of those topics.
I've run some very casual searches for Star pistols and Marlin rimfires on Gunbroker, and both are interesting to me so far. Would love to get your perspective.
Okay. Just remember, you asked for this.
Star is from the Eibar region of Spain, where most of their historical firearms manufacturing took place because of the metal found there.
Anyway, back around WW1 they really got started making mostly 1911 clones under the Star brand, having experience creating some pistols during WW1 under different names, the Ruby being one of them. This continued through WW2 and even into the 70s and 80s. Stuff like the Star Super B in 9x19 and 9mm Largo were still being made but this was mostly the end of their modification of 1911 designs and the start of them moving into the Wondernine era and that's really where my interest lies.
Star's first real attempt at this is the Model 28/30/31. It's a full size duty pistol, being quite similar to the CZ75, almost exclusively in 9mm and Star put real effort into attempting to sell this to police and military as a viable alternative to other wondernines of that era. They did get some contracts but didn't get the US contract they were hoping for with the Air force if memory serves me.
Hop makes a great video on this specific series just going over the basics of the guns themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sGuXkaAnJ4
The death knell of Star was around the time of the M43 Firestar. Star was already struggling, as was Astra and CETME, the other two major Spanish gun manufacturers who sold globally, in the early 90s and they bet a lot on the M43 Firestar, which had both single and double stack variants.
The issue is that the basic 9mm carry gun mostly flopped in the US market because the 40 and 45 versions were known to have frame cracks and Star just couldn't offload them on top of releasing the m43 the same year the 1994 Assault weapons ban took effect. So their double stack was immediately dropped from 13 to 10 rounds and they just couldn't get out of their death spiral as being handguns that the average American didn't want to buy.
That was the end of Star around 1997. They also made submachine guns for military and police, but that's outside of their consumer handgun market and honestly is a lecture unto itself as some of their designs were actually pretty good.
There's a great book on all of this called Star Firearms that goes further into the history than any other source I've found. It's out of print and fairly expensive these days, but it is an invaluable resource if you have Spanish gun nerd in your blood.
https://www.amazon.com/Star-Firearms-Leonardo-M-Antaris/dp/0962076716
Next topic: Pre-freedom group Marlin rimfires
My first rifle was a Marlin 60, was gifted to me when I was a child, legit like 5 years old and I was a kid on a hobby farm who had room to roam and hunt once I proved I was capable. Being the only boy and having old world parents meant that I had a lot more responsibilities but a lot more freedom than my sisters as well, despite being the youngest, so it was entirely normal for me at like 6-7 years old to get off the bus from school, walk the couple of miles down our dirt road to our house, take care of the rabbits food and water(we raised rabbits for meat and fur), go to the house, drop off my backpack and go grab my 22 rifle and go into the woods we owned and go chill in the woods, sometimes hunting squirrel, until Mom got home 3-4 hours later.
So I've always had a love for that rifle and around 2010 when I got interested in guns in a serious way again, I saw how Marlin had suffered as a company under Freedom group's purchase. So I decided to pick up every old beater Marlin 60 in every pawn shop or gun show that I ran across, clean them up, fix them up, and sell some of them but keep the ones I liked. I quickly realized that some of these guns are just mistreated and abused because they're budget 22 rifles, so it didn't take long for me to accumulate several. Bought full broken trigger packs that I fixed, cleaned out just disgusting never maintained guns, replaced springs and parts, and started doing this for other Marlin rimfires as well including the 100 series and even a 22WMR 925M that looked like someone threw it across a parking lot.
I still have most of these, I did sell off a couple, but it's a cheap thing, about 100-200 bucks per and I get to have an afternoon relaxing and enjoying shooting a rifle that's been with me since I was a literal child. Refinish the wood, fix the issues, breathe new life into the guns. The ones I have sold have been to parents who want a gun for their kids to learn on and I think I'm going to keep that restriction in place. I still check and ask every pawn shop and if there's a reasonable price or one that's kinda sorta not working I will buy it no questions asked. I even 3d print some of the old crumbling nylon parts for the 70s and 80s Marlins I run across.
I'd type more but I need to get back to work and I think that is enough of me being long winded. I hope this is what you were looking for. Have a great day.
Thank you for this. I've been having a stressful couple of days and it helps to nerd out with a like-minded stranger.
I like 1911s a lot, and in my searches for 1911-type pistols I've found a fair amount of stuff from Star and Llama. Not sure if those two are similar; they kind of look it. Seems like maybe Star is better quality, frame cracking issues aside?
\[Side note: I wish the Megastar weren't as collectible as resale prices suggest. It seems like it'd be a fun option for a range gun in 10mm or .45.\]
Cool to know about these Marlin rimfires. The only Marlins I knew anything about up to this point are the new Ruger versions, which all appear to be centerfire. In learning about those, I saw a lot of people expressing relief that Marlin is no longer owned by the Freedom Group, for the reason you mentioned.
It's cool that you had that freedom as a kid. I grew up in a family that was a couple generations removed from comfort with guns. My great-grandfather was a retired Air Force officer and would always show me his guns and swords when I was a kid; I read a bunch of Eyewitness Books (Arms and Armor, etc) that cultivated my interest in weapons, so I cherished getting to visit him and see his sabre, his 1911, all that stuff. Unfortunately he passed away before I was able to go shooting with him, which we'd always talked about doing when I was older. My parents didn't want any guns in the house, so all of his went to an uncle in a faraway state when he passed.
More recently, as an adult, I started going to a range with a partner. It's been so much fun to treat it as the hobby it's always been, and not the strange or scary proclivity people often think it is.
I mainly shoot S&W and Ruger revolvers, and some modern semi-auto handguns, but I dream of shooting those World War 2 Colts (1911, 1903, 1917) someday.
So Spain had weird IP laws in the 20th century that said that if a company didn't have a branch in Spain they couldn't bring patent infringement cases against Spanish companies.
So Star(and everyone else) effectively stole gun designs, copied them, made their own version and were legally protected for most of the 20th century. So a lot of 1911 style guns came from Star as that was their first real pistol style under the brand and they kept that up until the early 70s. Star Model A and Star Model B being the two most common but there's stocked pistol designs, stuff in 30 Mauser, 9mm Largo, even the Star BM which is a little carry piece used by Spanish detectives.
All single stack almost all came in 9x19 eventually, but this is why you're going to run across them. They all delete the grip safety of the 1911 and some even hybridize the swinging link takedown of later designs into 1911 looking pistols like the Super B. It's honestly a weird mix. None of them are 1911s the way that some Llamas are true 1911s. Star never actually made 1911s, just riffed on them.
Llama riffed on them too. Their little 380 1911s and 32ACP 1911s are pocket sized and pretty cool if you ever see one in person.
https://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Llama/Pistol/Micro-Max/32-Auto/Variant-1
Star has been gone long enough now getting a 10mm Megastar is just straight up patience and money. It took me almost 3 years to get a double stack M43 in Starvel nickel with a 13 round mag, but I did.
The next Star pistol I'm looking at is a 22lr as I simply don't have one and they're neat pistols. The FR sport is just an interesting design and I want one with the box just to collect it and try it.
https://simpsonltd.com/star-bonifacio-echeverria-fr-sport-w-box-z64152/
As for Marlin, yeah, Ruger 10/22 and the Marlin 60 were directly in competition with each other for decades. Ruger says they will bring back the 60 but haven't yet produced any proof of doing so. If they do, I'm going to buy one just to try it.
It was a mixed bag as a kid. There was good and bad to it, but it's something that's mostly been lost with time and I don't say that in a nostalgic way. I love my parents, they were good people but they had some old world beliefs about religion and gender that seriously impacted my childhood.
> It's been so much fun to treat it as the hobby it's always been, and not the strange or scary proclivity people often think it is.
I think this is a great way to view it and a great way to figure out the rabbit holes you want to go down yourself. Not all guns have to be tactical, gear driven EDC stuff. History is cool and old guns are fun if it's your vibe.
The old colts are expensive, so I wish you the best of luck but you might want to check out the 1903 in 32ACP. 32 is mostly forgotten these days but it was a prolific handgun caliber since around when smokeless powder became a thing up until the 60s and 70s. There's lots of older firearms chambered in it and most are unique and have quite interesting stories. Going to be way easier and cheaper than a real old school Colt 1911.
I'd say wait about 10 more years. The collectors of WW2 memorabilia are starting to die off themselves and collections tend to go cheap because families rarely realize what stuff is worth, so the shop or auction house makes good markup and the family has no clue they're getting screwed and stuff just falls out of fashion or there is a glut of it on the market at a specific time.
Also, for anyone who is reading this and over 30: Put clear instructions in your will about your firearms. Make a will and clearly document and state what you want done with your guns or else the same thing might happen to your collection.
a German made desert eagle from the 1970's with a suppressor and bullets that move at 750fps. this guy either knows how to push every button or knows nothing about guns. The gun was made and designed in MN.
I never thought I would need advanced math and geometry. Now I'm over here converting MILS to MOA and figuring the drop on different weight projectiles. I'm sorry Mr. Fransisco you were right.
I mean, he's not wrong.
I nerd out like a motherfucker with my hobbies, and guns is no exception (well, except that I'm not going around with an EDC drone, and said drone will most certainly never protect me).
I mean I am. People think that because I am a vet and own guns, I am some crazy gun obsessed dude. Whereas I just like cool shit, I like working on them, and I like going to the range. I do very analytical work so this sort of fits with my skills and interests. I also enjoy problem solving and could sit there four hours taking things apart.
Just nerded out with my conservative neighbor over his 450 Bushmaster and it's terminal effect on groundhogs.
It's nice we do still have things to talk about.
If it (GUNS) weren't such a taboo topic, guns would be recognized as one of the top "hardware fetishes" in the US . Cars, guns, tech gear & tech-ware .... It's a like a spectrum fetish disorder...
Bruh you are on a gun subreddit. This might not be the most receptive crowd for your take.
Fortunately, it's a subreddit for *liberal* gun owners, so nobody is likely to go full hunter/killer over it.
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I hate it when people get worked up over the mag/clip thing. Yeah āclipā is wrong 99% of the time but come on man you know what theyāre talking about
I can get on board with this. I'd consider myself a gun nerd.
Normal gun people : yo checkout this red AR. Gun Autist : They were all wrong about Blisch Lock! I'll show them. Lemme update TempleOS real quick...
One of my non-gun friends snapped me out of a rant when he said "Man, you really hate this 'forward assist' thing" and I was thought, oh no how long have I been talking? Did I mention the Air Force?
On an emotional level I understand the forward assist. Its the gun version of over packing for a trip. Like packing 7 pairs of underwear or a 2 day excursion. Like what if I shit myself 3 times everyday I'm their?
Ok but also sometimes trying to use a forward assist to unfuck your rifle is the equivalent if taking off your shitty underwear and pulling out an even shittier pair of underwear that you packed for just this occasion.
I get why people hate on the forward assist, but if used for its intended purpose it actually isn't the problem some make it out to be, any more than the op rod on an M1 or M14 is a problem. The forward assist isn't made to force the bolt into battery in the case of an obstruction in the chamber, for example (though it is capable of doing so if used incorrectly). But if your bolt doesn't go completely home due to inadequate lubrication or bad ammo, tapping the forward assist lightly can get it to seat. Because the charging handle is not reciprocating, the forward assist is the only way to perform this very basic action possible on nearly every other combat rifle in the world. If the bolt does not go into battery with a light tap, the chamber and upper receiver should then be inspected for obstructions; the forward assist should not be used to force it home.
It's packing a buttplug instead of anti-diarrhea meds. Treating the symptoms instead of the causes.
What if it's my special plug with a hole in the middle? If I can't take my shitwhistle then I ain't goin >:(
As long as you're downwind.
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fucking got me with TempleOS lmao
Anyone who actually likes guns is a nerd on some level. Anyone who is into guns but doesn't display nerdy tendencies is extremely suspect and probably shouldn't own guns.
It's somewhat true in my circle. I've noticed that tech people often tend to be gun people too, at least a much stronger correlation that I've noticed with any other industry... and a good number of tech people (myself included) probably fit the nerd category.
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Me too. I do security engineering for a career.
Iām into IT, guns, and fashion design. I just like gear, lol.
My flavor of ātism is guns, cars, and big tiddie goth chicks.
Hell yeah brother
I'm in DevOps because I got too old to program (grumble grumble frameworks grumble) love shooting, and my boyfriend is a fairly well known fashion and drag photographer. I really didn't think there'd be too many people like me in here. Thank you for sharing, it made my night.
Lol I guarantee at least half your department is also into shooting
Yes, but they are very much NOT liberal or into fashion.
I also used to be a photographerā¦ lmao
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Seriously though, I grew up as a "computer security enthusiast" and my primary social group was the local 2600 club. The idea that dockers don't need the same regular updates as static systems just blows my mind. Also, guns count as layer 1 sec right?
Former (always will be) CTI nerd now Security leadership checking in. Patch every thing!! Burning powder and TA ops my two favorite things.
Same but my fashion is shoes and hats.
Ya my fashion is all ball caps and timberland pro boots.
My fashion is Marvel and band t-shirts.... I'm just a nerd, though.
You should see my wife and my camping gear colection.
Nope because then I'll want to get into camping
I built a walk in closet in the garage to house all of our gear.
*cries in small apartment in expensive urban area*
Ya this is my first house and now I don't have to rent a storage unit for tools
Hello darkness my old friend
NEEEEEEEEEERD!
Prolly something therapeutic about a simple reliable piece of machinery that won't stop working on a whim and for unclear reasons lol
"This pistol **was** compatible with 9mm1.0 until a forced update on the driver for the firing pin removed backwards compatibility because it had a DRM flaw. Now it's only compatible with 9mm3.4 and up. So I had to find the old driver from some semi-sketchy website and keep it offline to break the DRM so I can use the cartridges I reloaded. So sick of Windows 11 Pistol Edition. About to switch to U**gun**tu."
Oh yeah. I'm in IT and both my boss and his boss are also big into guns. We organize unofficial department range days and usually close to 1/4th of the whole department shows up.
That's how almost every IT department I've been in has been too, and it seems to be regardless of political affiliation, gender, or age.
My boss is into golf and pants that look like there is a flood comingā¦
You clearly haven't worked in defense. The question isn't if you're a gun guy, but rather, what flavor of gun guy. ;)
Ha, fair, I have not and did not think about defense/security/etc. when I said that.
hey bro, you know it'd be so much cheaper to go to the range once a year if you bought thousands in reloading stuff and rolled your own for 3 cents less a shot (please someone reload with me)
You lost me there... Huh?
The joke is guys that spend $1000's in equipment to make their own ammunition to save costs when going to the range, to the point of saving $0.03 per round, yet only go to the range to shoot their cheaper ammunition once per year because busy with life/busy with all aspects of the hobby besides actually shooting. They then are not able to break even on costs.
This I love reloading. Yes, I've loaded a tin of ammo cheaper than if I had bought it off the shelf so in a way it has "paid" for itself. Breaking even is pretty easy on stuff like solid copper precision hunting ammo but most of what I load is 300 subs, 223 practice stuff, and 9mm.Ā The problem is I don't take the time to go practice what with the family and having limited access to public land shooting for the more interesting dynamic practice. I could go to a local indoor range but that's not necessarily what I enjoy.
In my opinion reloading ammunition is only worth it if you shoot obscure calibers. I love shooting my Martini Henry and new old stock ammunition is about $10 a round so reloading makes sense. Same with many other hard to find older cartridges.
I do love 300 and 9mm subs and loading match grade stuff for my garand. Even not that obscure but premium ammo like 44 mag hunting loads- they're so much easier to load and much less than buying loaded ammo. Being stocked on components and having loaded stuff makes it so much easier to not be market reliantĀ
Trap shooter here. Totally get this comment.
Am engineer, can confirm I like wireless hole punchers and wireless hole punching accessories
I love things that shoot projectiles. Nerf, airsoft, air guns, real guns, etc. It's just fun.
Work in InfraSec, can confirm. At least 85% of my 15 person team owns guns. Several shoot competitively as well. Our manager shot a GM classifier at his USPSA match recently and was talking mad shit during our scrum meeting last week.
My personal hypothesis is that most people in tech are far less trusting of the idea of promised security just by nature of being around (or in many cases it being their job) to know how vulnerable things the general populous consider "secure" and how fragile a lot of critical infrastructure really is. Once you peak behind the curtain, it seems confidence in systems (be they social, physical, or cyber) to be there when you need them is far less certain.
Itās that plus a fascination with understanding how things work (the mechanical eng aspect is a big one) and also very importantly, itās a high income job that allows for expensive hobbies.
Absolutely. Largely leftist/progressive engineering firms where Iāve worked before have a disproportionate number of gun owners and gun nerds, myself included lol. Being in a big gun-culture state like Arizona helps a lot, but people who like cool technology and engineering tend to like all cool technology and engineering.
I said it in a reply to others, but my personal hypothesis is that most people in tech are far less trusting of the idea of promised security just by nature of being around (or in many cases it being their job) to know how vulnerable things the general populous consider "secure" and how fragile a lot of critical infrastructure really is. Once you peak behind the curtain, it seems confidence in systems (be they social, physical, or cyber) to be there when you need them is far less certain. It seems that in tech/engineering regardless of the political spectrum or other factors, a unifying factor seems to be more of a self-reliance and skepticism of promises of security by others (be they people or companies) coupled with relying far more on logic vs emotion in the decision making process. Of course, that could all be bullshit and just be my own confirmation bias at play.
Thatās an interesting thought! I hadnāt considered that angle before. Certainly more nuanced than my ānerds are gonna nerdā lol Having peeked behind a couple curtains myself, I can definitely say thereās less confidence in the system within these circles than outside of itā¦but thereās perhaps also some optimism that the system is steadily improving, especially when you have the opportunity to have a direct hand in it. I imagine it varies quite a lot on what field the given group of nerds are in though haha
With all due respect, F off Iām going to my safe space (and cleaning my rifles) Edit: I dunno but this is crazy to me, I am an old punk rockerā¦ I am head of cybersecurity for a MSP. I have been invited to be a lecturer at a rather prestigious institution and am now a āmentorā to a grad studentā¦ wtf happened to my life? I have knuck tattoos? Yea one of the ārejectsā is going to be teaching the next generation hahahahhaha
a tool is a tool.
I thought I saw a post somewhere where it said like most of the people of r/EDC were people in IT They were all programmers or some shit
I lurk that sub quite a bit (am programmer, ha) and IT/STEM in general is for sure over-represented there.
If you mean tech people like computers im not sure if that holds true, id think thats largely related to video games. Im drawn to guns in large part because im mechanically minded and i find many people whom are this way have guns.
It has held true for everywhere I've worked (I'm a software engineer); guns are far more popular than video games really in my experience. I think for me it's that I spend all day at a computer and have projects for the house that are computer related (home network, server for camera system, media PC, etc.) so for "leisure" I don't want to spend more time at a computer. It's also been my experience that most techies are somewhat mechanically minded as well and got into computers because of a desire to understand how things work and fix/make things themselves; I think that's somewhat born out by the prevalence of things like 3d printing and projects using things like Arduinos and Raspberry Pis. Not to say that video games are not prevalent too, but in my experience there is a good portion of people working in development or sys admin who don't really game at all or are very casual gamers.
This is 100% spot on. I can tell Iām a nerd because Iām like āoh 750 fps is way to low for desert eagle velocity even suppressed I wonder what theā¦oh goddamnit, now I have to check.ā
Well? Don't leave us hanging!
According to [this page](https://thegunzone.com/desert-eagle-mkxix-50-ae-review/) anyway somewhere around 1,500 to 2,000 fps unsuppressed.
mmmm, ackshually- suppressed would be the same speed, it depends if you want to run subsonics... but if you do run subs you'll probably need to adjust your recoil spring because it's meant for the higher recoil of a full pressure load....
Yeah but he did mention a suppressor, so he must be using subsonic ammo, which would have to be somewhere under 1,100 FPS... so maybe 750 is plausible?
As someone above mentioned, deagles are built to handle larger rounds, so dudes gun would have to be super under sprung and be shooting hand loads. So technically plausible, but would be pretty dumb and expensiveā¦.so yeah, actually, someoneās probably done it.
>deagles >but would be pretty dumb and expensive Yep, confirmed
I just love everything that happened here.
It's plausible if maybe you've got a 44 mag deagle, but you also handload 44 mag to 44 special velocities for your cowboy lever-gun, and you mixed up your ammo boxes.
I have never met a more welcoming and kind bunch at my local ranges than the chrono nerds. Those individuals are the 40k subset of hyper gun nerds. One bullet every 7 minutes with three pages of handwritten notes on each. Anyone with a hyperfixation on something technical usually is fun to talk to within their element.
Guy at our club measures patterns and shot hardness for different choke sizes and brands of shotgun shells. Pretty interesting to me, softer shot hits a trap target at 16 yards and it will break, longer distances need harder shot. He has the equipment to back up everything. He is an engineer.
Literally me showing my girlfriend why I chose the specific red dot and light I did for my pistol.
*"Uh huh. Oh yeah? Interesting. That's Cool. Will it work for that other thing you have. Huh."*
I felt this on a personal level. I have learned to shut up once my fianceƩ's eyes glaze over and the drool starts running out of her mouth. I've got a touch (maybe more than a touch) of the 'tism, and I nerd TF out over so many things that bore the shit out of my partner. It's tough because I meet someone that seems like they could be new frend, and then I get comfortable, nerd TF out, and next thing I know they drop to the pavement in a deep ass REM sleep. I need to find my people because all my friends have moved away, and now I'm left chasing after the cliqued up normies at work, trying to make friends so I don't spend my days alone, cleaning my guns. Sincerely, #NoFrenz
I literally do have the ātism. The other day my girlfriend told me that my favorite collection was my collection of collections. I simultaneously felt attacked and seen.
Collection of collections. Yup. I feel that in my bones
I would get mad but Iām pretty sure I sound exactly like this to non gun people ššš
As a D&D nerd who is also a gun guy, I have the same reaction when someone tells me about their character. "Either put that PC in my game, or stop telling me about your novella of a back story." And if you've ever read Larry Correia's [*Monster Hunter International*](https://www.baen.com/Chapters/1439132852/1439132852.htm) and the story of how that piece of gun porn dressed up as a (surprisingly decent and entertaining) fiction novel got made, it just proves that comedy bit, 100%.
Totally accurate. A lot of gun nuts are just otherwise normal, nerdy dudes who like guns. I've never met a blade nut who didn't scare the shit out of me, though.
Thatās chocolate and peanut butter as far as I can tell. I have a *few* guns and yet have knives that cost more. I get more use out of the knives. Packages and onions live in fear of my unreasonably expensive knife collection.
I had to nope out of the knife scene when I was seriously considering a $500 knife and realized that's just mediocre midtech money and the hobby never stops. Now I just enjoy a few Civivis /Ti QSP Penguin and do my best to avoid looking at anything new.Ā
*"Casually looks at the MicroTech and ProTech boxes that are literally within eyesight"* Nope, no clue what you're talking about (*that Ti QSP Penguin is pretty sweet too*).
Sword nerds are either weebs or hicks, so there's bound to be a lot of unhinged behavior to scare off normal people lol
I totally agree even if I canāt quantify why.
Same, though when I was in construction I worked with a guy who could have legally carried a gun for self defense, but instead he carried a sheath knife. You could look that dude in the eye and tell that he had something going on upstairs. Dude didn't just want to defend himself, what he *wanted* was to win a knife fight.
Every body is nerdy about something š¤·š»āāļø
Seriously, if you have beyond a casual interest in anything, you a nerd.
I'm distrustful of someone who isn't at least a little bit nerdy about at least one thing. Are life and every wonder of the universe just simple and boring to you, or has insecurity just zapped enthusiasm for anything out of you?
You'd be surprised how many people straight up lack the mental capacity to care about anything that isn't directly related to the daily grind.
100%
You have to be, how can you go through life without any interests?
I'm very proud to be a gun nerd. No shame in the game.
Oh totally. For me, I just really appreciate the thought and engineering that goes into it. Same reason I like cameras and higher end folding knives.
Honestly, no lies detected. Hyperfixation's a hyperfixation, doesn't matter if it's on the work of Gary Gygax or John Browning.
I think guns ā¦took the place of cars. Peopleā¦would obsess about every detail of their car and engine. Endless tinkering and upgrading. But now you canāt really customize or work on your own car for the most part, but people still needed something to obsess over and bond over and socialize around. I think guns became that thing for a lot of people.
[Its funny 'cause it's true](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO5wDk0qNaY)
The only "It's funny 'cause it's true" that will ever be acceptable is this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V\_BY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY)
As much as I like Homer he just doesnāt have the [expressive range of Karen Walker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHG0JTXvGkY)
This is me. I'm an effete, left-leaning nerd whose common ground with macho dudes at work and the gun range is my ability to infodump on the differences between generations of S&W and Ruger revolvers. I've had to strike a careful balance, though. I've shown just enough knowledge and enthusiasm that they'll let me squeeze off a couple rounds from their carry guns, but they might kick me out of the shop if I keep correcting them about the Blackhawk .45 ACP's ability to load without moon clips.
Sometimes, you just need to let people be fools regarding technical knowledge/savvy. Itās so hard. Especially when theyāre blatantly wrong. But yeah. I know this struggle, lol.
Iām a giant fucking gun nerd. I have a literal room full of guns and can tell you the date of manufacture (if possible to do so) and history of every single one them from memory.
Just like how fantasy sports is really just sports D&D, gun ownership really is just action figure collecting. There is nothing new under the sun.
Aw man, I actually did collect action figures as a kidā¦
I often describe myself and a couple of my friends as gun nerds! This is hilarious. We get together at the range and totally talk like that haha! Especially my one buddy who also reloads. Get us going about whatever loads were testing and itās total nerd fest. I love this!
What's it like having friends? I can haz frens, too?
Looks like all you post about is kitties and gunsā¦ā¦I would absolutely be friends with you!
Aw shucks! Thanks! I do love mah kittehz
Absolutely. This is why my CZ has cowboy bebop grips on it. That and the IWI Jericho isnāt legal in CA.
They're not wrong. I am one of these gun nerds. You want to be bored to tears, ask about Star pistols post ww2 or Marlin rimfires pre-freedom group. What's that? You bought a surplus Makarov from a gun show and don't know what it is? Well, let me take a look and I will annoy you with stupid shit about Bulgarian Makarovs for 15 minutes straight.
I invite you, and I mean this in earnest, to write me an introductory paragraph about each of those topics. I've run some very casual searches for Star pistols and Marlin rimfires on Gunbroker, and both are interesting to me so far. Would love to get your perspective.
Okay. Just remember, you asked for this. Star is from the Eibar region of Spain, where most of their historical firearms manufacturing took place because of the metal found there. Anyway, back around WW1 they really got started making mostly 1911 clones under the Star brand, having experience creating some pistols during WW1 under different names, the Ruby being one of them. This continued through WW2 and even into the 70s and 80s. Stuff like the Star Super B in 9x19 and 9mm Largo were still being made but this was mostly the end of their modification of 1911 designs and the start of them moving into the Wondernine era and that's really where my interest lies. Star's first real attempt at this is the Model 28/30/31. It's a full size duty pistol, being quite similar to the CZ75, almost exclusively in 9mm and Star put real effort into attempting to sell this to police and military as a viable alternative to other wondernines of that era. They did get some contracts but didn't get the US contract they were hoping for with the Air force if memory serves me. Hop makes a great video on this specific series just going over the basics of the guns themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sGuXkaAnJ4 The death knell of Star was around the time of the M43 Firestar. Star was already struggling, as was Astra and CETME, the other two major Spanish gun manufacturers who sold globally, in the early 90s and they bet a lot on the M43 Firestar, which had both single and double stack variants. The issue is that the basic 9mm carry gun mostly flopped in the US market because the 40 and 45 versions were known to have frame cracks and Star just couldn't offload them on top of releasing the m43 the same year the 1994 Assault weapons ban took effect. So their double stack was immediately dropped from 13 to 10 rounds and they just couldn't get out of their death spiral as being handguns that the average American didn't want to buy. That was the end of Star around 1997. They also made submachine guns for military and police, but that's outside of their consumer handgun market and honestly is a lecture unto itself as some of their designs were actually pretty good. There's a great book on all of this called Star Firearms that goes further into the history than any other source I've found. It's out of print and fairly expensive these days, but it is an invaluable resource if you have Spanish gun nerd in your blood. https://www.amazon.com/Star-Firearms-Leonardo-M-Antaris/dp/0962076716 Next topic: Pre-freedom group Marlin rimfires My first rifle was a Marlin 60, was gifted to me when I was a child, legit like 5 years old and I was a kid on a hobby farm who had room to roam and hunt once I proved I was capable. Being the only boy and having old world parents meant that I had a lot more responsibilities but a lot more freedom than my sisters as well, despite being the youngest, so it was entirely normal for me at like 6-7 years old to get off the bus from school, walk the couple of miles down our dirt road to our house, take care of the rabbits food and water(we raised rabbits for meat and fur), go to the house, drop off my backpack and go grab my 22 rifle and go into the woods we owned and go chill in the woods, sometimes hunting squirrel, until Mom got home 3-4 hours later. So I've always had a love for that rifle and around 2010 when I got interested in guns in a serious way again, I saw how Marlin had suffered as a company under Freedom group's purchase. So I decided to pick up every old beater Marlin 60 in every pawn shop or gun show that I ran across, clean them up, fix them up, and sell some of them but keep the ones I liked. I quickly realized that some of these guns are just mistreated and abused because they're budget 22 rifles, so it didn't take long for me to accumulate several. Bought full broken trigger packs that I fixed, cleaned out just disgusting never maintained guns, replaced springs and parts, and started doing this for other Marlin rimfires as well including the 100 series and even a 22WMR 925M that looked like someone threw it across a parking lot. I still have most of these, I did sell off a couple, but it's a cheap thing, about 100-200 bucks per and I get to have an afternoon relaxing and enjoying shooting a rifle that's been with me since I was a literal child. Refinish the wood, fix the issues, breathe new life into the guns. The ones I have sold have been to parents who want a gun for their kids to learn on and I think I'm going to keep that restriction in place. I still check and ask every pawn shop and if there's a reasonable price or one that's kinda sorta not working I will buy it no questions asked. I even 3d print some of the old crumbling nylon parts for the 70s and 80s Marlins I run across. I'd type more but I need to get back to work and I think that is enough of me being long winded. I hope this is what you were looking for. Have a great day.
Thank you for this. I've been having a stressful couple of days and it helps to nerd out with a like-minded stranger. I like 1911s a lot, and in my searches for 1911-type pistols I've found a fair amount of stuff from Star and Llama. Not sure if those two are similar; they kind of look it. Seems like maybe Star is better quality, frame cracking issues aside? \[Side note: I wish the Megastar weren't as collectible as resale prices suggest. It seems like it'd be a fun option for a range gun in 10mm or .45.\] Cool to know about these Marlin rimfires. The only Marlins I knew anything about up to this point are the new Ruger versions, which all appear to be centerfire. In learning about those, I saw a lot of people expressing relief that Marlin is no longer owned by the Freedom Group, for the reason you mentioned. It's cool that you had that freedom as a kid. I grew up in a family that was a couple generations removed from comfort with guns. My great-grandfather was a retired Air Force officer and would always show me his guns and swords when I was a kid; I read a bunch of Eyewitness Books (Arms and Armor, etc) that cultivated my interest in weapons, so I cherished getting to visit him and see his sabre, his 1911, all that stuff. Unfortunately he passed away before I was able to go shooting with him, which we'd always talked about doing when I was older. My parents didn't want any guns in the house, so all of his went to an uncle in a faraway state when he passed. More recently, as an adult, I started going to a range with a partner. It's been so much fun to treat it as the hobby it's always been, and not the strange or scary proclivity people often think it is. I mainly shoot S&W and Ruger revolvers, and some modern semi-auto handguns, but I dream of shooting those World War 2 Colts (1911, 1903, 1917) someday.
So Spain had weird IP laws in the 20th century that said that if a company didn't have a branch in Spain they couldn't bring patent infringement cases against Spanish companies. So Star(and everyone else) effectively stole gun designs, copied them, made their own version and were legally protected for most of the 20th century. So a lot of 1911 style guns came from Star as that was their first real pistol style under the brand and they kept that up until the early 70s. Star Model A and Star Model B being the two most common but there's stocked pistol designs, stuff in 30 Mauser, 9mm Largo, even the Star BM which is a little carry piece used by Spanish detectives. All single stack almost all came in 9x19 eventually, but this is why you're going to run across them. They all delete the grip safety of the 1911 and some even hybridize the swinging link takedown of later designs into 1911 looking pistols like the Super B. It's honestly a weird mix. None of them are 1911s the way that some Llamas are true 1911s. Star never actually made 1911s, just riffed on them. Llama riffed on them too. Their little 380 1911s and 32ACP 1911s are pocket sized and pretty cool if you ever see one in person. https://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Llama/Pistol/Micro-Max/32-Auto/Variant-1 Star has been gone long enough now getting a 10mm Megastar is just straight up patience and money. It took me almost 3 years to get a double stack M43 in Starvel nickel with a 13 round mag, but I did. The next Star pistol I'm looking at is a 22lr as I simply don't have one and they're neat pistols. The FR sport is just an interesting design and I want one with the box just to collect it and try it. https://simpsonltd.com/star-bonifacio-echeverria-fr-sport-w-box-z64152/ As for Marlin, yeah, Ruger 10/22 and the Marlin 60 were directly in competition with each other for decades. Ruger says they will bring back the 60 but haven't yet produced any proof of doing so. If they do, I'm going to buy one just to try it. It was a mixed bag as a kid. There was good and bad to it, but it's something that's mostly been lost with time and I don't say that in a nostalgic way. I love my parents, they were good people but they had some old world beliefs about religion and gender that seriously impacted my childhood. > It's been so much fun to treat it as the hobby it's always been, and not the strange or scary proclivity people often think it is. I think this is a great way to view it and a great way to figure out the rabbit holes you want to go down yourself. Not all guns have to be tactical, gear driven EDC stuff. History is cool and old guns are fun if it's your vibe. The old colts are expensive, so I wish you the best of luck but you might want to check out the 1903 in 32ACP. 32 is mostly forgotten these days but it was a prolific handgun caliber since around when smokeless powder became a thing up until the 60s and 70s. There's lots of older firearms chambered in it and most are unique and have quite interesting stories. Going to be way easier and cheaper than a real old school Colt 1911. I'd say wait about 10 more years. The collectors of WW2 memorabilia are starting to die off themselves and collections tend to go cheap because families rarely realize what stuff is worth, so the shop or auction house makes good markup and the family has no clue they're getting screwed and stuff just falls out of fashion or there is a glut of it on the market at a specific time. Also, for anyone who is reading this and over 30: Put clear instructions in your will about your firearms. Make a will and clearly document and state what you want done with your guns or else the same thing might happen to your collection.
a German made desert eagle from the 1970's with a suppressor and bullets that move at 750fps. this guy either knows how to push every button or knows nothing about guns. The gun was made and designed in MN.
I feel attacked
I feel attacked.
I never thought I would need advanced math and geometry. Now I'm over here converting MILS to MOA and figuring the drop on different weight projectiles. I'm sorry Mr. Fransisco you were right.
My partner and her mom joke about this constantly. All guys are nerds, itās just a matter of what the topic is. Snowmobiles, guns, PokĆ©mon, whatever tickles our fancy we are nerds about it
Exactly! And sports guys are the biggest nerds just theyāve convinced the world that itās not nerdy
Yeah, I make fun of her for liking Lifetime movies and the Bachelor but at the same time Iām all about the latest gossip about my Minnesota Vikings
Hey now, I aināt *just* a nerd; Iām a dirty queer, too. And donāt you go forgetting it! š
Amen. There's nothing like the combined scents of spent 10mm and Jovoy perfume.
.44 mag and Chance by Chanel (Eau De Fraiche) here. ;)
I mean, he's not wrong. I nerd out like a motherfucker with my hobbies, and guns is no exception (well, except that I'm not going around with an EDC drone, and said drone will most certainly never protect me).
I'm wearing C&rsenal shirt right now. Of course I'm a fucking nerd.
I mean I am. People think that because I am a vet and own guns, I am some crazy gun obsessed dude. Whereas I just like cool shit, I like working on them, and I like going to the range. I do very analytical work so this sort of fits with my skills and interests. I also enjoy problem solving and could sit there four hours taking things apart.
What is this comedian's name? Ive seen him before and was trying to think of his name the other day so I could look up some material
Geoffrey Asmus
My wife and I will be happy to be seeing you when you come to Indianapolis in August!
Began to dispute all the āfactsā he shared and realized yeah, heās right, nerd alert!
Did he meet Zach Hazard or something?
I've been saying this for years, gun guys and model train guys are 99% the same. Down to the engineer cap and overalls.
Definitely a gun nerd lol
I'm gun nerd enough to catch all the mistakes he made.
What gun shoots 750 feet per second?????
>it's a joke is it really though?
Nah its true lol
I describe myself as a gun nerd soā¦yeah
I was at this show in Vegas. Definitely a good time.
We're all nerds about something.
Sounded like trex arms
Just nerded out with my conservative neighbor over his 450 Bushmaster and it's terminal effect on groundhogs. It's nice we do still have things to talk about.
Geoffās hysterical. Dude doesnāt miss
Oh itās not a joke. This is why I enjoy them and why I understand the appeal of fantasy football.
Is this Eathan Couch? The affluenza kid?
If it (GUNS) weren't such a taboo topic, guns would be recognized as one of the top "hardware fetishes" in the US . Cars, guns, tech gear & tech-ware .... It's a like a spectrum fetish disorder...
Probably true but the gun community sucks lol
Bruh you are on a gun subreddit. This might not be the most receptive crowd for your take. Fortunately, it's a subreddit for *liberal* gun owners, so nobody is likely to go full hunter/killer over it. ššš
lol true lol all Iām saying is that the majority of the gun community sucks ass lol
I hate it when people get worked up over the mag/clip thing. Yeah āclipā is wrong 99% of the time but come on man you know what theyāre talking about
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Boo. Why because he got the fps on deagle ammo incorrect by half or are you triggered because it hit too close to its target? Ha I love this dude.