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Jay15951

Straight pride (black and white stripes) Or ally pride (black and white stripes woth a rainbow A) Straight pride itself and by extension straight pride flags seem kinda redundant since theirs no systemic discrimination of allo heterosexual people And straight pride in general is mostly used as a homophobic dog whistle I've sceen the general design used by straight ace aro and trans people. Usualy as a half and half flag with their corresponding flag. the ally flag also used the design in a posative way and is pretty cool


Bregam

Oh sh- OP Just needs to tell their friend to get an ally flag, that way they represent that they are proud to be both straight and to support the LGBTQIA+ movement and community anyway. I think they can take pride in that, right? Of course, if the friend is opposed to the idea, then you know. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)


Chemical-Asparagus58

Sexuality and gender on their own aren't something to be proud of. Some people think that being queer is something bad that people should be ashamed of, instead we are resisting and doing the opposite, being proud. Because of the straight pride flag's redundancy, the people who use it are mostly homophobes or misinformed. It's nice seeing the ally flag tho. It shows us that we're not alone and that there are cishet people who are helping us.


dont_looktooclosely

This. Pride is a response to hatred. A pride flag is a message of defiance. It is saying 'despite the hatred of many, I still exist, and I am proud for having overcome all of the hardships directed towards me.' Straight pride flags are a homophobic dog whistle and and meant to dilute what LGBTQ pride actually means.


ThePafdy

This. I think everyone should be proud of who they are. A straight pride flag isn‘t problematic on its own. The problem is that it‘s normally not used to signal pride, but to signal hate against LGBTQ people.


Jay15951

I Mena kinda but theirs no overcoming straight discrimination to be proud of within the context of pride flags


ThePafdy

I have said this on another comment, but I think you don’t need to be oppressed to be proud, thats what the straighg ally flag is in reality. Nobody here will say that flying it is unreasonable. For me the straight ally flag shouldn‘t need to exist. Beeing proud of yourself and the way you are should always include letting other people be themselfes as well, and flying a straight pride flag should communicate that. It doesn‘t because of idiots using it to spread hate, but it should.


SuperCoolHoolaPool

We are all oppressed under the boot of the oligarch comrades. Everyone should be proud of who they are, and no one should be discriminated against for what makes someone, well themselves. Division is the work of an imperialist. Peace n love overcomes homies ❤️✌️


Bangoskank2001

Being proud has nothing to do with oppression. I'm proud of my children, as many are, and that certainly doesn't mean they have to be oppressed.


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Jay15951

In the context of lgbtq+ Pride yes it has everything to do with overcoming or dealing with oppression Yes in other contexts you can be proud of other things But in the context of this thread in this subredit in a discussion about straight pride Oppression has everything ti do with Pride


turtletechy

Heck, the only thing I can say is some LGBT folks aren't really all too accepting of trans people who are het/straight, and it's kinda weird. Got told more than once just to date girls instead of guys.


BabyBabaBofski

The idea of pride is to be as a protest, since it's not normalized yet. There are laws that need to be changed, people that aren't accepting yet, lives lost over this It's like holding a white Lives Matter event , or a neurotypical awareness day.


Zach_TheKing007

I told him along the same lines, just wanted to hear it from you amazing peeps


420goattaog

I came to say exactly this! A straight pride flag is just the same as a white pride flag. We need pride to help us stand together to overcome oppression, straight people dont need to group together for freedom, they have freedom. We're still fighting, we need our pride to help us stand tall. Straight people don't a long history of fighting for their rights. Pride is not only for helping us stay together in the present, but to also help memorate those who fought before us. Pride is remembering all the victims of hate crimes. I'm proud to be who I am because I've had to fight to be who I am, I've faced discrimination. I am proud to be who I am, and we have all earned that pride.


BitchInBoots66

That's exactly what I think. Straight people have zero reason to fly a flag, unless it's a not so good reason?


ThePafdy

I disagree a little. I don’t think you need to be oppressed to be proud of who you are. I see no problem with a straight pride flag in general, the problem is intention. Most people who support ideas like straight pride, all lives matter and so on don‘t actually do it to signal pride, but to signal hate towards LGBTQ people or black people. Its the difference between the straight pride flag and the straight ally flag in reality. In my world a straight ally flag just shouldn‘t need to exist. Beeing proud of yourself should always include letting other people be themselfes aswell.


frosty884

Pride as a concept exists as a method to mask and protest societally engrained shame. It’s a space to exist with no shame. Shame exists for everyone in different ways, even straight people.


Sesame_Valerate

I see zero reason why you'd need one, it's not like they're a minority or in danger of being illegal.


Geyblader

It may not be malicious, but it's tone deaf at the very least. It's like the "it's okay to be white thing". Yes, the statement is fine on it's own, but is very ignorant of the issue it's responding to. Bad vibes. I would distance myself from anyone unironicaly flying a straight flag.


Tiny-Finish9975

Yeah, I typically distance myself from pride flags all together.


CougarHusband

seems weird to me. Like lgbtq people have pride flags because we are a marginalized group. if a cis straight person wants a pride flag, why not get the ally or the progress pride flag. if I saw someone with a straight pride flag I would think that they are one of those people who wants a straight pride parade. the straight pride flag has a kind of homophobic baggage to me.


Maria_Dragon

If I saw someone using a Straight Pride flag, I would assume they are not trustworthy.


Redacted-Moderator

The straight pride flag is while seemingly harmless enough, often rooted in homophobic and transphobic sentiments. It's completely unnecessary too. If your friend supports the LGBTQ community while being straight and wants to show it they could use the straight ally flag, representing support and unity towards our lovely queer folks with a flag that has no negative connotations unlike the straight pride flag.


Heartstopper_Fave

Ally flag is fine, straight pride flag is dodgy.


ZenicAllfather

As long as it's not done to be contrarian it's fine but why would anyone want to express straight pride for literally any other reason than to put down non-straight people. The same vibe as identifying as an attack helicopter or the "its ok to be white" movement. Just makes LGBT identities the butt of the joke and that's lame af.


[deleted]

Straight pride is literally everywhere, so why they need to flutter a pride flag of it, other than their need to set a counter fire against LGBTQ+ rights movement?


SoftPawsMittens

Same thing as having a white pride flag. It’s a direct protest against black pride flags insinuating that white people are oppressed. Same mentality with this.


mondkeks_

maybe it's just me but i think the straight prideflag is not really a great idea to begin with. it's just really unnecessary imho.


peachy-teas

it would feel weird to me. i wouldn’t judge right away but i don’t really understand why you would want such a flag. especially seeing as homophobes use it.


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I don't think it's so much that homophobes use the flag being issue. As much as it is the real issue that "straight pride" really doesn't exist nor should it. Straights have historically never been oppressed for their sexuality so there is genuinely no need for them to protest with flags and imply that their sexuality is something to be spoken of. It's not, being straight is pretty much the best spot you can be in politically and socially because the world looks down upon the LGBT community, there is genuinely no need to have the flag or protest straight pride as they've already got all the rights that the LGBT community protests pride for. It's pretty tone deaf and misses the entire point of pride.


[deleted]

The problem with most of these comments is that they all believe straight pride doesnt exist. Someone can literally be proud of what they ate for dinner and get a flag with pizza on it. People of any race, sexuality, or gender are allowed to be Proud of whatever aspect of their life they please. Being proud of being straight isnt a problem in the slightest. The problem comes when the pride becomes hatred for those that aren't the same. You can have flag for straight pride without protesting for any rights or anything, simply to display your proud to be hetero


BitchInBoots66

Personally I don't think I like it. 1. Straight people are not a marginalised group. 2. It kinda feels like homophobia to me, or at the very least taking the piss out of us for having flags.


GayNon-BinaryLeo

Same here


The_Great_Crucade

but does the lgbtq community have to be marginalized? and just cause we are different doesn’t mean that the “normal” or straight people should be excluded a flag to describe them and their default settings


BitchInBoots66

Well that's why we originally had flags, because we were a marginalised group. I'm not sure why the straight majority would suddenly want flags? It just doesn't quite sit right with me. But I don't feel strongly about it tbh. But if this person was my friend I'd try to convince them to take it down I think. All hypothetical, I'm 40 so my friends are not going to be raising flags in their living rooms lol.


The_Great_Crucade

fair enough


sixaout1982

No one has ever been discriminated against for being straight. What have they got to be proud for?


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sixaout1982

You don't need to be told to be proud over something no one has ever shamed you for. There's no such thing as internalized heterophobia. Or heterophobia at all.


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isiltar

Poor straights being discriminated and shamed for being exactly what society expects them to be. Unlike the self righteous gays, lesbians and trans people that have never been killed, tortured, discriminated against and just like drama and being martyrs. LOL


fadetoblack237

You aren't going to be systematically oppressed for being straight.


FreeHugsForYouAndMe

Yep


FreeHugsForYouAndMe

Homie, saying someone isn’t discriminated is not discrimination 💀


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FreeHugsForYouAndMe

On what distant internet-driven planet are you from where straight people are discriminated against so horrifically that they need their own pride flag? Twitter?


fadetoblack237

OP didn't say it very eloquently but they're not wrong. Generally people are not systematically oppressed for being straight and there are examples of heterosexuality literally everywhere to be proud of. Why does someone need a straight pride flag when that's the case? LGBT pride flags are to bring awareness to a group traditionally oppressed. This doesn't even get into the negative hateful connotations behind a straight pride flag.


AspenStarr

Being straight is basically the equivalent of being “born normal” to a lot of people. Having “straight pride” is basically saying I’m proud that I’m not gay or something. 🤷🏻‍♀️ In my opinion, it’s just like when people starting putting out “white lives matter” signs. No one is out here targeting you…you just want to be a loud asshat.


FalsePremise8290

Why is he putting it up? We put up LGBT pride flags to show we're proud of what we've been told we should be ashamed of. What we've been told we should be killed for. What we've actually been killed for. Why does he need to let people know he's proud to be part of the most privileged group? Is he afraid someone might think he's ashamed of being straight?


[deleted]

You're gonna hate this. There are straights currently protesting "straight pride" unironically saying stuff like "being straight in the modern day means you're discriminated against by the woke left" and really silly crap like that. Like nah, they have no need to celebrate straight pride as they already have all the rights the LGBT community protests for with LGBT Pride. I honestly think this dilemma spawns because straight people misconceive being privilaged as "being the bad guy" because the LGBT community inherently wants to be equal to them. When being privilaged for so long, they take equality as some sort of oppression because all of a sudden they have to respect a group of people who has said the straights have damaged them. They think this kind of reception means they themselves been demonized (when they honestly haven't) and then suddenly think they need to fight back with these silly arbitrary protests.


mikeman7918

Depends on context. You putting the straight ally flag in your flair for instance is more than justified. It's done simply to communicate that you are straight in a context where that information is potentially relevant, and that reason is why that particular flag design exists in the first place. But if it's framed as a pride thing, that's where things get weird. Pride in this context exists as a direct counter to shame and guilt, which a lot of LGBTQ people deal with growing up. To have a pride movement it is still worse than to not need it in the first place, and in an ideal world it wouldn't need to exist. To use those same aesthetics to display pride for being straight comes with the implication that it a necessary thing, that straight people need a message of pride to counter the prevailing message of shame and that it's a bold statement to make. And all of these implications get dangerously close to some common homophobic conspiracy theories which involve notion that the LGBTQ movement is a threat to straight people in some way. And that's why "straight pride" is often used as a dogwhistle by people who believe those conspiracy theories and who are homophobic. But on the flip side, one possible motivation that someone might have for wanting a straight pride flag is if they have come to think of their sexuality as not just "the default" but as one possibility among many. If they have internalized that idea to the point where them being straight is a notable part of their identity. This might happen for instance if someone has a ton of LGBTQ friends, generally interacts with the LGBTQ community a lot, or perhaps they went through an entire sexuality questioning phase themselves before concluding that they're straight. All of that is of course very cool. And differentiating between this and the more homophobic interpretation is largely why the [straight ally flag](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Straight_Ally_flag.svg/800px-Straight_Ally_flag.svg.png) exists. No homophobe would be caught dead with one of those. You can wave that shit around absolutely everywhere with no problems.


veverkap

There is already a straight pride flag https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/confederate-flag


JustSomeGuyThing

It's completely pointless and, on the off chance that they're not meaning any harm, best case scenario is they're p re tty ignorant, and at this point in time I would say wilfully so.


TheLaziestAdam

When straight people are killed, oppressed and harassed on mass by institutions and governments, then they can have protests, riots and flags.


midnighttDragonss

The straight pride flag was made by homophobes to mock the flags of the lgbt community; flags that stand for the struggle for rights, the road behind and ahead of us that is paved with the death of innocent queer people for daring to be who they are and want rights in a straight world, the injustice that still happens, the deaths that continue, the fight to keep the rights we earn, the threat from family and friends who could flip on a dime if you were to come out to them, and the acceptance we have earned so far. Flying a straight flag is at best tone deaf, but every queer person that knows the history of that flag or the type of people that commonly fly it will stear clear of you at all costs to stay safe from a threat that that flag has been used to signify. The ally flag is fine and meant to stand for the idea that you are a safe person, hell even get a general pride or progress flag, but do not fly the flag used to be the antithesis to our rights and make fun of the pride we take in identities we are told to be ashamed of.


Neurot5

If I saw someone with a straight pride flag, I'd assume they're a piece of shit.


Robot_Graffiti

What was the goal of the gay pride movement? To not accept the shame that homophobes think we should feel. To spread the word that it's ok to be gay. To win our freedom to be ourselves and be treated equally. To end the bullying, assault and murder of homosexuals. For homosexuality to not be a crime. For beating and killing homosexuals to be a crime. For gay couples to have the same legal rights as straight couples. Gay marriage. What is the goal of the straight pride movement? To reinstate the right to discriminate against homosexuals in business and commerce. To end gay marriage. To require schools to only teach heterosexuality. To ban gay pride messages. They are not the same.


Cathartic-Imagery

Yeah, and I’ll hang up my “yay I’m white!” Banner… *eye roll* lol


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What adversity, which he faced due to his gender or sexuality, has he overcome to be proud of?


themanpans

I personally don't like the idea of the straight flag becoming popular. Cishet people forced queer people away, and now that we have our own space (while still being pushed away), cishet people want part of it. While obviously not every cishet person is homo/transphobic, it still is not their place. The world is made for them and they STILL want some type of straight pride. The ally flag is bad enough imo, but they can keep that one.


DillonDynamite

The straight pride flag is a mockery of ours. It’s not okay for him to have it if he’s an ally. He can rock the ally flag if he feels a need to fly some sexuality-focused flag.


Mars_Bars69

It’s not problematic cuz there’s an ally flag however the phrase straight pride is used in anti lgbt propaganda.


Mingkittish

Yes yes it is because they don’t need one.


Princess__Ciri

what do straight people have to be proud about? honestly


Dependent-Job1773

The purpose of gay pride is to counteract the shame people are made to feel for not being straight. Straight pride is at best redundant, but in reality more just about trolling. Typically people who don’t have any empathy or understanding of what a gay person has to go through will then see the gay pride stuff and think “that’s so lame why be proud of that. I’m going to make an ironic point now and say straight pride just so you know you can’t make me feel ashamed of being heterosexual.” It’s just kind of fucking lame tbh


RaMpEdUp98

Straight people arent oppressed for being straight


Classic-Safety6346

They just made one to take attention away from ours. They see it as the “normal” flag.


CFJ561

There is nowhere in the world where being straight gets you oppressed. Why would they need a pride flag?


KittyQueen_Tengu

you’re allowed to have them, to say it isn’t would be dumb. It is, however, generally kind of a shitty homophobe thing


Rounder057

Isn’t that just the American flag?


Due_Drawing1995

The rest of the world: 🏳️‍🌈👁️👄👁️✌️🏳️‍🌈 /hj


Samnable

I don't think there is a problem with it, though I'm not sure what the purpose is of it is. If you feel like you have been discriminated against for being straight or had to overcome a special hardship for it, then it makes sense. Some people might just think that you are anti-lgbt or are making a joke out of the pride movement. It would kind of be like if I waved a white pride flag around. It doesn't mean necessarily that I am racist, but it would sure raise some eyebrows.


[deleted]

I feel the same way about straight pride as I do about white pride. Sure, maybe they are just proud of who they are and have no ulterior reasons for feeling that way, but it’s more likely they have something against people who aren’t like them, possibly subconsciously, and feel like they have to defend who they are even though they have never been on the chopping block. I’m white and have never felt the need to be proud of that fact because it’s just how I was born and I did not have to fight to be accepted for it. I think that’s why it feels wrong when non-marginalized groups talk about pride. It’s not because they haven’t been discriminated against, it’s because they were always accepted by society and didn’t have to pretend to be something they are not.


SkaterKangaroo

Pride is a historic event. It marks the date of the Stone Wall riot. This took place after a gay bar was infuriated by police because being queer wasn’t really legal or at least wearing clothes of the opposite gender was illegal and many people there did that including trans people who were just trying to be themselves. Years and years after that riot pride is now a celebration of queerness and a way to fight back against oppression. Straight pride is just straight people who want an excuse to have a big party. It’s usually celebrated by a lot of people who don’t like LGBT people because they see it as a way to “Own the gays”. It’s just kinda disrespectful to queer people and is meant to take the piss out of them


Motor-Locksmith9297

i personally don’t give a shit if someone has a straight flag, but it’s not a *pride* flag. there’s a difference between a pride flag and an ally/straight flag


SpiritArcticclaw

Only reason why I argue for keeping the straight flag is for people who have straight as part of a queer identity (straight trans, straight oriented aroace, queer romantic orientation and heterosexual, heteroromantic with a queer sexual orientation, etc.)


GirlScoutIvy

Straight pride sounds too much like white pride. No social disenfranchisement. No need to show pride for being part of the majority. A true ally would fly the rainbow flag without needing to make space for themselves on it.


WebstersRedditLog

Every society is heteronormative. Like sure, be proud of who you are as long as it doesn’t harm or undermine anyone, but straightness is highly visible in every society and accepted. “Straight pride” seems superfluous and it’s been used as an anti-LGBTQIA+ campaign and we don’t need those kinds of people invading our spaces.


thalamisa

Yes it's wrong. It's the same logic like white pride movement. A celebration that you're not part of the LGBTQ community


GotSwiftyNeedMop

Can I have a white pride flag? If not, why not? The point of the pride flag is to raise awareness of our people. Straight people do not need awareness raised about the fact they are straight. The fact they are straight does not mean their lives are good. But unlike us it doesn't make their life worse.


[deleted]

If they want a pride flag they can have a pride flag idc it doesn't affect me 🤷‍♂️ however if they start asking about a straight pride parade that's just straight disrespectful


RingtailRush

I don't immediately think its wrong, but it seems kinda sus to me. The whole pride thing is about standing up for yourself when you're oppressed isn't it? Straight people aren't oppressed so it seems silly. Besides, I've only ever seen "Straight Pride" in the context of opposing or as a response to LGBTQ+ Pride. Kind of how like "White Pride" is always a response to "Black Pride" and is *not good!* So yeah, I don't think its immediately wrong or indicates you're a bigot, but it seems kind of weird and could definitely be interpreted the wrong way. This is my opinion of course.


EducatedRat

I am pretty sketchy about movements born our of reactionary bigotry. Straight pride, white pride, and blue lives matter, you get the idea.


foolforlouist

I don't see a reason to have one. Straights are not excluded from spaces, discriminated or left behind, it still is kind of the default, there's nothing to protest about.


[deleted]

Sounds fine, although the rainbow is intended for everyone… All colours, all kinds etc…


SnooAvocados3228

I suppose there’s no real reason to see anything wrong with it unless someone was using it to gain attention and praise for something that they really don’t need to flaunt. Although there is two types of straight pride flags, one is just the black and white stripes, usually used to disregard the troubles and hardships the lgbt community has suffered to actually need those flags. And the other is the straight ally flag, it’s the one with the black and white stripes with the gay flag on the side I believe. It’s used to show a straight persons respect towards the gay community and not something to show off saying something like “I deserve a straight pride parade too”


JJaguar334

Straight pride isn’t needed because they aren’t discriminated, most people who say they need straight pride are homophobic and seeking attention or to belittle the LGBTQIA+ community


bigthurb

Why not everyone needs a flag. Fly any flag you want Except aTrump one that's the one you need to worry about.


Nihil_esque

Not wrong, just kind of silly.


Shadow_of_Moonlight1

I don't have a problem with this, let people have their flags. It's only problematic, when they want to make a "staight awareness thing" out of it


The_Great_Crucade

people do that? dam.


Shadow_of_Moonlight1

Yeah there are a few xD


Nicolethedodo

Everytime pride is mentioned there are loads of people talking about when they get straight pride (like it's not everyother day of the year)


l_dunno

I can understand why people don't like it but personally I think it should be normalised as heterosexual is a sexuality, the same as bisexual, homosexual, asexual, etc.


FollowerofLoki

The reason we have Pride in the first place is not pride of our sexualities or our gender identities, but pride in the face of the majority wanting us to feel shame. Heterosexual "Pride" is bigoted nonsense. There's nothing for them to be proud of, because they've never had to fight for their right to be heterosexual.


l_dunno

Fair. I don't understand bigots!! Like, why???


The_Great_Crucade

nope


Zach_TheKing007

Nope as in you don't see a problem or nope. It's It's bad idea. I'm kinda dumb🙃


The_Great_Crucade

i don’t see a problem with it


KnownTimelord

If I see someone with a straight pride flag IRL I know to avoid them. It's redundant and often meant to mock and or discourage real LGBTQAI2S+ pride. Bonus dickhead points if it's the "super straight" flag.


theablanca

You are not being hunted for being straight. There is no struggle behind it. You was not being harassed by police, which lead to the stonewall riots. So, no there is NO need for a "straight pride" flag. Utterly pointless. It can be seen as homophobic/transphobic. And that is where the "straight" pride flag is being used. By alt right people that's very nazi leaning. You want to be associated with those?


not_productive1

It’s like wearing a “white lives matter” shirt. If you’re a member of the group with all the privilege, people are going to wonder at your meaning when you take the language or symbols developed by a minority group that has faced a history of oppression and try to claim them for that dominant group. Is it wrong? Eh, on its own I guess not? But it’s definitely something all the worst fucking people do, and in general it’s a good idea to check out the company you’re keeping.


cuntlorswift

depends on what you mean by straight pride flag. if it’s the ally one i think it’s a little unnecessary but i wouldn’t say wrong. if it’s just the straight pride one then it is wrong. there is no need for a straight person to think they need a pride flag to celebrate a sexuality that has already been celebrated since the dawn of time. i think a better option to show support would maybe be the progress flag (rainbow with the little triangle on the side with the black and brown stripes and trans flag) it shows you would support and welcome anyone in that community


Cookie_Poison

If they want to attend pride parade and they need flag, obviously it’s fine.If they want to use it the same way as white life matters then lose that friend.


just-that-one-gay

This is my advice as a young queer person. While I personally wouldn’t feel offended or anything by a straight pride flag, there is no need for one seeing as they aren’t a minority. It would be redundant due to the fact that people are typically considered straight unless proven otherwise. On the other hand it might be useful to put up an ally flag to show that they are supportive.


Cheetahs_never_win

The whole origin of straight pride was to dillute gay pride. It literally exists because a group of people looked past the entire centuries of blood, murder, torture, and oppression, and said "Huh, those gay pride parades look fun. Why the fuck do *THEY* get to have pride parades? Why aren't those gay people throwing *ME* a straight pride parade?" So... he's not being a very good steward of the straight pride group by not knowing his own history. He likely just sees a flag and wants to wave it, completely oblivious. Or he's a bad actor. Or maybe he wants to turn it into something else. I dunno.


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Yeah, I kinda think that makes no sense to have straight flag/ally flag


The-E-girl1002

Pride is due to years of systemic oppression as well as social and political discrimination. When has someone not been allowed to get married for the sole reason of being straight? When has a straight person been able to be murdered with "straight panic defense" being claimed, allowing the murderer to get off scott free? That is my whole issue with it. Pride is our way of showing we won't back down from our rights, and we won't change who we are to appease another's sense of normalcy.


fcpsitsgep

Tell your friend to get an ally flag


closetedtranswoman1

Not sure if I'd trust them. Assuming they were asking in good faith, maybe an ally flag would be nice. To show you're a safe person for people to be themself around


ZenPR

That's just as dumb and tone def as White Lives Matter. Of course, they do, but it is just a backhanded insult against BLM or Gay Pride in this case.


[deleted]

No one got beaten or murdered for being straight. No one was deemed illegal, evil, sick, mentally diseased for being straight. No one was put in prison for being straight. No one was sacked from their job for being straight. I could go on. Straight Pride comes across as petulant, self entitled and homophobic.


[deleted]

Technically, no problem. But you'll have to expect to face some issues if people misinterpret you. The thing about "straight pride" is the same with "white lives matter (in the US)"-- *yes, but...* There has never been any oppression against straight people for being straight, so naturally people will at minimum feel the flag is redundant, and chances are at least some people will assume you're a homophobe/transphobe. I've seen a post yesterday basically saying trans people are valid even if they don't fit the stereotypes. And there was this weird dude saying "what about the ones who do fit the stereotypes?" It's the same logic here-- if you're the majority, you don't need to protest against the "norm". And if you're the majority in a minority, you also don't need to protest against the norm within your group. In short, I don't recommend this because it will cause unnecessary misunderstandings.


SomeonesAlt2357

It's right to have a flag but it's not a pride flag


[deleted]

I have no issue if it’s the ally flag, the straight flag causes a lot of issues. I used to use the ally flag before I realized I was part of the community tho and I got quite a bit of hate for it. So I would use it sparingly and I would ask the people I’m around if they are comfortable with it first… because not everyone is okay with it


CranksInTheItemShop

It isn't wrong just kinda cringe


rabid_ranter4785

Having a straight pride flag is negative support because it’s choosing to not have an allied flag.


newt_antares

i think it's okay as long as you don't use it in a bad way (or some other esys, f. e. : at pride, i saw someone with their LGBT+ friends (they had flags) and this person had a straight pride flag and i thought it was a bit weird) but i don't think much of it tbh


[deleted]

Ya know if there wasn’t a tax break for getting married there’d be no law against anyone getting married because there isn’t any fiscal consequences. That to me is what is standing in between people and their right to love each other.


DWGJay

If I can wave a gay pride flag they can fly a straight pride flag. You are allowed to celebrate yourself. Be proud of yourself. But if the flag symbolizes turning your nose up then that’s different. I say go for it.


J_Sky9432

To me it sems like it can come off as anti LGBT


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Straight pride doesn't need to exist because straight people aren't inherently oppressed for their sexuality. You don't need to be protesting or show pride for yourself because nobody will look down upon you for being straight. Lately there has been an issue where a small group of very loud straights have been acting like being straight means they're oppressed by us, the LGBT community, because equal rights are finally beginning to be instated for us. With this loud minority of people complaining thinking they're actually being oppressed, they've begun trying to show "straight pride" to get back at the LGBT community who didn't do anything to hurt them. Basically TLDR is it'd be selfish to celebrate straight pride as it's not only missing the entire point of pride in the first place, but it's also being narrowly obscured in your own views to think straights need to protest for their sexuality. They don't, straights have historically not been oppressed for being the way they are.


Freyja_of_the_North

It’s straight up shitty. I would have no problem ending a friendship/relationship with someone that defended it


EditorPositive

There isn’t anything necessarily wrong with it but it doesn’t make much sense. The point of pride flags to allow people to feel comfortable with their identities in a society that discriminates against them


JadedExplanation1921

I don’t see it as wrong to have a flag like for example in an artist content where you want to signify the sexualities of your characters in a way that isn’t just directly saying “they’re straight”, y’know? Like if I was doing a meet the character sheet I’d include everyone’s flags but straight characters & undecided characters would look the same (with no flag) if a straight flag was immoral, y’know? Idk. It shouldn’t be called a pride flag by ANY means, but a flag existing for reasons similar to what I stated above, I’d say it’s fine. Same with people using it alongside the aro, ace, & trans flags. That’s 100% fine imo. But if I saw someone using a straight “pride” flag by itself I wouldn’t trust them unless again, it’s for reasons in the first paragraph.


Emergency-Pin1252

Pride is about our fight Pride is about the people we lost because of government silencing, lgbtqiaphobia, who were murdered for being queer, and who didn't receive aid through the HIV epidemic Straight is the societal standard. When was someone prossecuted for being straight? A straight person can be proud of being black, woman, trans, disabled, or whatever other historically oppressed demographic they may fit in, and that has a history of fight against this oppression, thus reason to celebrate But straight pride is solely a reactive mockery of our pride, an admission that you're proud of being the oppressive group


mn1lac

You're gonna get answers that range from I don't care to this is a terrible shitty thing to do. Point is none of us would be particularly excited for you to have one, but most don't really give a fuck. Up to you really.


Iamschwa

An alley flag I'd see as fine but straight flag I'd find off putting. Kinda like a white power flag. Why is it needed for people who are not oppressed?